Slick video! I'm curious how many mixers/recordists would even attempt to track and mix from a follow-car 500' away? Maybe if you had a redundant quartet of receivers feeding a second recorder dropped in the backseat/trunk of the picture car, but without local-recordings, I don't think many are risking their capture just to have hands on faders. That'd be like if the cameras didn't have media cards in them and the video footage was only being recorded hundreds of feet away at the other end of a Teradek transmission. @9:06 you mention this approach is probably what they do in Documentary or Reality car-to-car coverage. In my experiences, it's not. It's typically dropped bags and monitoring via IFB from the follow car. In those faster-paced genres, there's often not time for shark fin setups and tethering cast to roof antennas. I do like the small magnet roof mount for my IFB's whip antenna (it's quick to deploy/small footprint).
This is an awesome video and I am a lectro user but I can't help but watch this whole video and think that a huge thing missing from this awesome setup is a way to record built into the transmitters.
thanks for the video Michael, been trying to find those magnetic antenna on trew and gotham, can you link me to them car scenes are always a pain and this is something i would like to explore in my next shoot
Can share a little insight on the reality car shooting, at least in the case of one show. Working on the latest Top Chef, had 3 hero cars for talent that were pre-rigged with go-pros (can't remember the syncing details) & lavs in visors/ceiling that fed into a bag rig in each and left to run continuously. That was on top of Zax TX recording talent all day too.
Hi Jon, During the shoot, we did for actual runs. One of which was with the Betso bowties. The performance was very lackluster, and we felt that it wouldn’t be appropriate to use this type of antenna in a car to car situation so we left it out of the edit.
Great video! I'm wondering: the receiver vehicle has rigged 2 sets of antennas (directional and omni), are both being used simultaneously to receive the signal? I've never tried that
Hey Michael, What type of antenna cable and what length was used to remote the body pack antenna to the mag mount on the roof of the truck? Also were both the plant mics and lav mics using this technique with antennas on the roof?
Hi Ken, the cable is connected to the mag mount, my guess is it’s RG174, also the plant antennas were attached to the transmitters under the visors inside the truck
@@MichaelWynneCAS thanks Michael! Are these belt pack units like the Lectrosonics DPR’s? Considering getting a pair and might look at the dpa6060 as they sounded lovely
Production value galore! Nice job, guys!
Thanks Rob! It was a blast.
Look at all those sound guys! Great work Michael.
Thank you Allen! It was a blast
Putting two Sprinters full of walkie and video transmissions between your vehicles would be a more realistic test :)
We had them on the call sheet but nobody showed!
@@MichaelWynneCAS lol, surprised they didn’t seize on the opportunity to throw a last minute wrench into your plan.
@@davidlstevens LOL!!, totally!!
Slick video! I'm curious how many mixers/recordists would even attempt to track and mix from a follow-car 500' away? Maybe if you had a redundant quartet of receivers feeding a second recorder dropped in the backseat/trunk of the picture car, but without local-recordings, I don't think many are risking their capture just to have hands on faders. That'd be like if the cameras didn't have media cards in them and the video footage was only being recorded hundreds of feet away at the other end of a Teradek transmission.
@9:06 you mention this approach is probably what they do in Documentary or Reality car-to-car coverage. In my experiences, it's not. It's typically dropped bags and monitoring via IFB from the follow car. In those faster-paced genres, there's often not time for shark fin setups and tethering cast to roof antennas. I do like the small magnet roof mount for my IFB's whip antenna (it's quick to deploy/small footprint).
Excellent input! Thanks for sharing your experience Jim!
Great video Michael! I’ve been quite happy with the DSR4 thus far. Lectrosonics nailed it with this unit
Agreed!
What are main features you like with this new unit ? What kind of video sets do u work on ?
Thanks guy's now I'm looking forward to upgrading to the DS4R...great job!
You bet!
Thanks for this video, Michael - nicely done!
Thanks for making a kick ass receiver!
haha, that ending! oops
These Lectro DSR4 receivers are looking really great, thanks for sharing that test
We were wondering if anyone caught that Chris and I had no idea till the end! I was shocked!
amazing video. thank you for this!
Thank you!
Great stuff!!
Thank you!
1:24 😂 Love this! This is how you separate the boys from the men. Red Cameras don’t last long and are unreliable.
Thanks Peter, it was such a pleasure to collaborate with these guys on this!
This is an awesome video and I am a lectro user but I can't help but watch this whole video and think that a huge thing missing from this awesome setup is a way to record built into the transmitters.
Totally! You can record onto the DBSM TC locked, but not transmit simultaneous.
thanks for the video Michael, been trying to find those magnetic antenna on trew and gotham, can you link me to them
car scenes are always a pain and this is something i would like to explore in my next shoot
I’ll see about finding a link for them!
Can share a little insight on the reality car shooting, at least in the case of one show. Working on the latest Top Chef, had 3 hero cars for talent that were pre-rigged with go-pros (can't remember the syncing details) & lavs in visors/ceiling that fed into a bag rig in each and left to run continuously. That was on top of Zax TX recording talent all day too.
Sounds like an awesome workflow!
What’s a bag rig?
Let me in on the next one!
You got it Todd. We’re about due for another!
obviously I understand what the shark fins are doing here, but what are the Betso omnis doing on the antenna mast? thanks!
Hi Jon, During the shoot, we did for actual runs. One of which was with the Betso bowties. The performance was very lackluster, and we felt that it wouldn’t be appropriate to use this type of antenna in a car to car situation so we left it out of the edit.
So what do you think of the performance of the DBSM/DSR4?
I’d be curious to see how well they work with digital hybrid transmitters (assume they would have a compatibility mode for them).
@@robdisner it’s compatible with digital hybrid both NA and NU
Great video! I'm wondering: the receiver vehicle has rigged 2 sets of antennas (directional and omni), are both being used simultaneously to receive the signal? I've never tried that
Great question, the Betso bowties weren’t used, just the LPDA’s with the passive 470-608 MHz filters.
Why is it good to have directional and Omni antennas?
Hey Michael, What type of antenna cable and what length was used to remote the body pack antenna to the mag mount on the roof of the truck? Also were both the plant mics and lav mics using this technique with antennas on the roof?
Hi Ken, the cable is connected to the mag mount, my guess is it’s RG174, also the plant antennas were attached to the transmitters under the visors inside the truck
@@MichaelWynneCASwhat’s is a mag mount and it’s purpose? And what are plant antennas and what are their purposes? When are these used ?
What kit are you using to record the crews dialog in this(Lapel, pack, recorder)? It sounds fantastic!
Thank you @bencoestudio! We used TC locked body pack recorders with DPA6060’s
@@MichaelWynneCAS thanks Michael! Are these belt pack units like the Lectrosonics DPR’s? Considering getting a pair and might look at the dpa6060 as they sounded lovely
@@bencoestudio actually three of the body pack recorders we're A20 mini TX's in record mode.
whats difference in the Lectrosonics SMWB Wideband Beltpack Transmitter/Recorder and the lectro dbms transmitters ? ?
The SMWB is a digital hybrid TX and the DBSM is a digital TX. DBSM also has twice the frequency range.
@@MichaelWynneCAS dbsm is the newer model right ?