THE SPEAR & RAILGUN TESTED VS BILE TITANS AFTER THE NEW UPDATE - HELLDIVERS 2 LATEST PATCH
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Helldivers 2 Railgun and Spear Tested after the Latest UPDATE
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The spear is fun now. I love it. I've had nothing but fun using it the past 2 days. But the 2 biggest issues it faces is angle and distance. If you don't have a good angle it won't one shot a bile titan, and if you're too close it'll just fly away. Other than those 2 minor issues I love it.
(Also superior packing methodology is broken again, so at least some support weapons don't get a full restock, and unfortunately the spear is one of them)
spear is actually GOATED now, i absolutely LOVE running it. Still prioritizes scout striders for some reason but thats just extra, I run spear on every mission now xD, you just need a primary that can take out medium enemies, for that reason Counter Sniper and spear combo is one of my most favorite to run against bots. Also that CS scope Though!! its CLEAN!!! i love that new scope design, i can actually see where im shooting now xD
They gotta fix it not locking onto the bot factory.
I actually use the counter sniper for the scope, so i can see far and use the spear after confirming the target. That's how i find most tower canons and take them out before my team goes in.
@@craig9365granted now it can’t lock onto gunships for some reason
@@isaacdayton4962 it locks onto gunships really fast from half a map away. maybe you were just unlucky, i never had that issue. only time it fails to lock in is if there is terrain or object blocking the view like if im on lower ground or if there is a rock and it only happens with tower canons
Scout striders is considered as a medium heavy, just like Bile Spewers are but nursing are not.
Spear is great, once they fix the fabricator lock on, its goated. I think the Railgun should still kill BTs in 5-7 direct full charged headshots and 10-12 full charge body shots.
agreed, the time required to kill it is still long enough to be a down side
They just fixed fab lock on
Railgun does 6-8 shot BTs in the head if charged up (and hit the forehead).
Considering the titans take less damage when spewing you probably want to take the sack out first before testing with the rail gun.
Killed a bile titan with 9 shots to the head (although one I believe hit it in the top of the mouth immediately after he stopped spewing). So it's probably possible to 8-shot titans to the head...?
I ran the Railgun against bots and I was having a good time until the gunships turned up. It couldn't make a dent in them.
Rail gun can one shot hulks and devastators it’s for ground targets only
@@Youssef06_ Guess I'll just stick to laser cannon then
They gotta remove a ton of the durable protection from gunships. Something that hovers over you can't be that tanky.
@@berserkerpride Completely agree.
@@Youssef06_ Tell me why, exactly...
Haven't had time to test it against bugs because I only go where command wants me to go and have been fighting Automatons. But it's prioritizing scout strider and not able to shoot down dropships makes the spear frustrating.
At this point they should just give the railgun a different niche to fill and forget it ever being a viable option for heavies again - it's a 'rail' gun, so make it act like one.
Have it punch through multiple enemies based on charge level; easily punching through multiple light enemies without issue (even on a low charge), less so for mediums and more difficult still for heavies, but it would at least give it a unique and interesting role.
Oh my god that’s brilliant that would be sick. A heavy variant would make it cumbersome and could give it an awesome explosive animation. Would be soooo cool
I think the change is to make it so one eat and one railgun shot finish the titan.
Concerning the Railgun, it used to take, at max charge, 20 shots at its worst, 9 after the armor buff, and now 6. Except you need to hit the forhead, because for some rease the rest of the head is considered as the main body.
I hsve found that using the new 110mm rocket pods really softens up the titan and makes it quite easy to finish off with the railgun
even before the spear fix its always my top 1 pick vs bots and tirminids also if it shoots the bile titan in the head it can 1 shot it before and after the fix
This is the second video I’ve watched of yours. Really enjoying them. Glad to sub
thanks troy! more are on the way!
Spear is one of the best weapons in the helldiver’s arsenal because the enemies of super earth do not have any countermeasures to our smart munitions.
Spear is better than you think. Trying pairing it with the rocket pods. One hit with the pods, and it removes that armor. Then hit it with the spear. You can also take out Chargers and Behemoths with one shot, providing you're straight on and the distance is good.
The only weakness is reload time and ammo consumption. But, its benefits outweigh something like the EAT, especially with the increase in Behemoths now.
I've been running the Spear since the update. It no longer targets Spore Spewers, Factories, or Shreeker nests, but that's apparently unintentionally and will be fixed. Once that's corrected, it will be a must-have in a squad.
Tomorrow, I'm testing the Railgun for a few days.
The apparent changes to the bile are very inconsistent. 70% of the time it's worse than before, but then sometimes it works as intended. It's the sane with the BT head. Most of the time the changes are there, but other times it's like it has a reinforced head.
There's a lot of strange inconsistencies in this patch.
The Railgun does well against Bile Titans in a team setting. Let me explain. Bile Titan heads have 900 health. Anti-tank rockets like the EAT 17 and Quasar do 650 damage. So most players say that it takes 2 rockets to kill one. And that's true except that that is a ridiculous amount of overkill (400 excess damage). If I know someone on my team is running anti-tank, I know I can soften up the titan by putting 2 well charged shots into its dome and, from there, one rocket gets it done. If I had to kill the damn thing on my own, it would take me 8 shots or more. But I'm not killing it on my own. I'm just helping to bridge the gap from the 650 damage the rocket does to the 900 health the head has. That, I can do reliably.
Finally, my dear Spear is fixed ❤
Not really. Unintentionally it no longer locks onto bot factories.Lol. Devs said they intend to fix it.
@@NeonGhostReaper Yeah, I know, but as Thanos said "a small price to pay for salvation" lol
@@jotairpontesthat was like half the reason I took it on bot missions tho XD
If you ran with it before, you'd have had plenty of practice with correct angles and distances. So, with this update, it just becomes almost a must-have. Once they fix the Spewer, factory, and Shreeker nest issue, its going to be unbeatable.
Spear when going against bots is my things now, since air patrols have become a thing and the tracking helps me so much.
Otherwise, it's been the Recoilless Rifle or Quasar Cannon or auto cannon.
How does this dude still not know to aim for the titan's forehead with the railgun? Literally how
I know this sounds like I’m crazy but there are subliminal images of beans in the loading screens when you are dropping to the surface I finally managed to get proof by slowing down my internet with too many devices and I’m waiting for someone to talk about how weird it is for that to exist
If you want to deal full damage on the bile titan you need to hit the forehead, not the rest of the head, very nice video tought
will keep in mind
Sorry, that went over my head.
@@sturmmagnunstein1008 aim lower then
jk lol
Bile Titan sometimes does not take damage to the head.
they forgot one thing in the known issues and before i read this i thought i was going insane.
Railgun I feel like a A or -S weapon for bugs, my strategy is similar to the flamethrower where it kills anything but a bile titan and then use 500kg or smthing to kill biles, but in that case flame is better for mob clear and kills chargers much faster, only advantage railgun seem to have over flame is range
While the railgun isn't amazing at soloing BTs, I think it's important to consider just how many ways in which players are able to stack on damage against heavy Terminids now between Eagle strafe, Orbital Gatling, Eagle Rockets, etc. so often you aren't taking a heavy all the way down from full HP. In the context of a normal pub match, now it is kind of viable to attrite BTs and Chargers in this way.
I love running this on automatons now, sniping shit from across the map
Just way to point out some of your railgun shots landed when the titan when it was spitting bile I heard it can’t be damaged when it’s spitting so it could be less railgun shots
Something else I noticed while playing last night.....The hell pod damage kills the titans again. I killed like 4 in a row. Makes me so happy to know that my death can help my squad!
It has to be damaged already though
Does anyone know if Spear not locking into fabricators is intended? It used to before patch.
The patch notes state that it shld lock on to fabs but right now its not working. They are aware and will fix it in the future.
@@donothack Ty!
its a bug
The spear no longer destroys factories.
Ofert trade
U can use the; Or U can use the Spear
Rail gun for kill a Bile titan 2 shot = 1 bile titan.
16 shots.
Yeah i prefeer the Expendable Antitank...
What are you even trying to say bro?
@@mohamedaanishEAT users like to mention every 2 seconds that they use EATs as a coping mechanism for the recoilless and quasar being better than EAT
@@adamporter3402 thats probably it 😂
@@adamporter3402 EAT is very good when used as an addition to a support weapon, like EATs plus flamethrower, or EATs plus quasar just to have those quick rocket shots if u need them. They're definitely the best on eradicate or defense type missions tho, way better than quasar or recoilless.
Ngl im still hoping arc trower gets buffed, its the 1 weapon i used for everything. And now its just one of those weapons i use for nothing
To be honest I’ll be totally okay if they drastically lowered how much railgun ammo has and buff the damage as before. A 10 ammo railgun would be fair if they just allow us to one shot or even two shot with perfect place shots
I’m a little disappointed that the railgun is still practically useless against bile titans. If it could reliably kill them in like 6 headshots give or take then I might consider using it again for bugs
ya the only thing here is its better than what it was so its a step in the right direction but currently... 17 shots is still kinda crazy
@@Crazymrpipz the last 6 months with this game has been 1 step forwards and 2 steps back. Even recently this was a good new patch but it hasn’t really changed the meta in any way. And all the new bugs that came from it, including ones that have already been fixed in the past have really hurt my enjoyment. It seems things are always going in the right direction but nothing ever actually changes in a meaningful way
It does kill on 6-8 fully charged shots to the forehead...
Who would use the rail gun against bile titans?
What's the advantage of spear vs titans? Aren't rockets do the same but you have more of them in backpack?
Spear one shots bile titans if you hit the head.
Spears tend to be very very long range and once locked doesn't miss due to travel time. Most people do overwatch using AMR, i do overwatch with Counter sniper and spear.
Spear can one shot bile titans with a well placed shot
Spear rockets have 1000 total damage with 100% durable damage, with AP 8. It is the strongest infantry weapon ingame.
@@sturmmagnunstein1008 How much dmg have reciless/expendable?
Can't wait for Arrowhead to say the spear is too good and nerf it's damage to the ground now
I mean they did 0 nerfs last patch:) lets hope its only buffs from now on
For someone who uses spear before patch, i rather they change it to before the patch rather than nerf the damage.
Almost every balance change in this patch was a buff, I think that’s a pretty good sign for future balance
You have to aim at the faceplate with the railgun not the mouth
Still feel the spear should 1 shot certain enemies with how little ammo it has
😢 miss My RAILGUN 💔
I heard plasma punisher + shield generator pack has the glitch again where it deflect the shots and kills you. I haven't confirmed yet is this happening every time again?
The deployable shield deflects it the backpack version is fine
If you run and shoot back it will hit you
they shitted on the rail gun so bad smh
Oh, nice! It used to take 1,234,454 nerf shots to kill the bile titan, and now it only takes 1,234,430 nerf shots.
hahahahahaha
"if you can only kill bugs and not automatons, then you're an exterminator but not a Helldiver " - anonymous
basicly railgun isnt for titans, its for chargers... and bots ofc
Aw C'mon man! The railgun went from meta meta to complete rubbish. All these months later there is no way I am shooting a bile titan 12-16 times to kill one. Nobody is using this thing. I havn't seen anyone use a railgun since the first patch nerfed it into oblivion. Hell they can revert the original primary nerfs at this point and nobody will be using the breaker shotgun meta either.
ya a buff would be nice
Yup! It's absolutely useless.
It's only viable on the bot front, even then when you run into gunships or the factory strider, its just unable to hold its own.
Would be nice if they give better risk & reward balance with the unsafe mod. If the railgun explodes when you overcharge it, why not give the ammunition a small explosive property like with the AMR when it's charged to 80% or so at the red zone? Like 4~5 shots to break Titan forehead armor, and then 1 more to kill them. Would also make the stratagem great on bot front too vs. tanks, turrets, and gunships.
It should 100% be the best gun in the game since it can be destroyed and kill you if overcharged. They need to give unsafe mode 85% and higher charge a huge buff to damage to make that risk worth it
railgun takes like 10 shots or less to kill a BT tf? ur barely charging it up
After seeing this I wonder why would anyone use railgun?? I’m noob so it’s sort off a genuine question. I used it once and feels like I’m doing nothing
Railgun actually 8-shots (at least with my accuracy) bile titans if you hit the forehead while the BT isn't spewing. It also 1 shots every non-heavy enemy in the game. Also, it quickly strips the leg armor of chargers. It's literally good for tons of reasons.
You are aiming too low with the railgun. It should take roughly 12 shots or less after the update.
i killed a bile titan in 6 shots is that normal? (railgun)
Yeah, youtuber just likes to miss and say false numbers.
It was 9 fully charged headshots to kill bile titan.
Now it's better. It takes 6 fully charged railgun shots to it's head to kill it (head is now not 100, but 95% durable)
I always like the spear and now it’s even better. But the railgun. Whoo boy the railgun. Still dog shit…
Bro, 5 railgun shots is too much
nah 5 would be VERY STRONG
17 charged shots to kill a bile titan... yeah, railgun is still trash against them. Good for killing spewers and medium enemies, and hulks at most if you can land a visor shot. But against any other heavy enemies, it's garbage. Can't even kill gunships reliably, and now they spawn in roaming patrols. It's not a viable weapon outside of the lowest difficulties.
17 railgun shots is horrible for a single bile titan kill. wtf arrowhead...
At least make it less than 7 or 8 for headshots.
You are better off just cracking the armor and shooting it with your primary.
it is 6 headshots on unsafe if u aim properly, which the guy in the vid didnt.
Also 1 headshot from the railgun is enough to make it so any other anti tank launcher (quasar, eat etc.) can 1 shot it to the head.
It's also one of the better weapons vs the new chargers, as all the anti tank weapons take 2 rockets to either blow up the head or destroy the leg armor, railgun can destroy the leg armor in 3 charged shots.
It's really good.
I feel like the railgun is finally in a good spot. It’s good for taking on anything, but you might find yourself hard-pressed against wasting shots on smaller targets or spending a large portion of ammo on a single target. It is a true jack of all trades comparable to the autocannon.
I think it still needs more damage on Biles... 17 shots is a bit too much:) 10 would be okay
it took me 4
Railgun still useless gotcha
Basicaly, yes.
It also takes like 12 shots to the head to kill the new charger 🤣
@@neziaojuara1768doesnt shooting the front leg take significantly fewer rounds?
@@sturmmagnunstein1008 yea, no1 should be using the railgun to take out chagers by aiming at its head. with the railgun 2 shots to the leg strips its armor, then swap to primary and focus the exposed leg kills it very quick.
@@Chavantez009 back to day 1 strat
I got a prebuff video of SPEAR easily one shotting stuff, this change -removes the learning curve for using the weapon.- makes it more user friendly
Edit: changed my words to be less offensive, seems some are upset.
Learning curve by dealing with it not working lmao!
@@heaDacHemMe
It always worked for me once I learnt how to use it properly
(Montage of SPEAR on my profile aswell)
@@sephiroth8377 yeah no it was not working, on missions full of obstacles and like 5-8 potential targets the lock on wasn't able to work anymore especially in the mission "retrieve valuable assets" and for some reasons even on clear view perfect range of 60-80m against a cycle tank sometimes the lock on wouldnt even recognize the potential target. Way too random...
@@sephiroth8377 I have clips of a giant bile titan chasing me, it fully in my sights and nothing happens. I have another clip of me demonstrating me running from a hulk for about a full minute, nothing blocking the sights and it perfectly in view and the Spear couldn't get a lock on. It was broken and the change makes it viable for 99% of the player base.
@@mrquaackers
It might be system related I don't know but it always worked for me after learning the parameters of the weapon prebuff. I'm PS5 and the guy I play with who taught me how to get a guaranteed lock on every time was also ps5. So Wether it's a skill issue or system issue, I dont know but I do know I used to say the same things you're saying until I was proven wrong.
I already said the change made it easier for others so I'm not sure why you're arguing that point.
Or u can angle it, so it hits the head and one shot the titan ;)
you CANNOT 1 shot a bile with railgun
17 shots is still way too many required hits. Should only take 5 hits
Even 5 seems a bit much
8 is a good place. 5 is too little.
Problem with spear is its dog shit against chargers
Arrowhead: “Use your stratagems guys”
Players: *Used stratagems to kill one Charger
Stare hopelessly at the other 3 chargers Crab Raving towards you while waiting for your stratagems to cooldown to be over
It one hits chargers.
I got a video prebuff where I could do it effortlessly
It can also one hit Chargers, the same way you do against Bile Titans. You gotta make him look at you before you fire, that way it will be a headshot, being only one rocket to kill.
I got chased by 3 chargers and bile Titan. I can get rid of one tank bug with rail cannon. Use quasar to get rid of the other. 2 left. use 500 kg to kill the last 2. Quasar still on cool down.
I mean there has to be a trade off given that if it's good against every heavy then the other rocket AT will all have been power crept
17 shots on safe isn't bad at all
that wasnt on safe tho...that was 17 on umsafe...so pretty bad
@@virgil7272 i wonder if it's less by landing perfect charged shot on the upper part of the head
17 shots hahhahhaahahhaha
I think around 8-10 shots should kill, thoughts?
@@Crazymrpipzit does though. I've done it multiple times :) full charge, to the forehead.
Words cannot describe how much I hate your “let’s go” outro.
dhould not take more than 5 shots from railgun, but what what can i say, spear lock on was an issue but ammo cap, damage and reload was the main issue i stopped using spear. It take 2 shots mostly from a spear- tank, hulk, charger i dont know, titans yeah. ANd you got to reload and you cant move. After killing 2 enemies your spear is useless. Ammo economy is really very bad for most of the weapons.
Why are u fighting bugs???🫣🤣🤣
cause im testing Bile titans?:D
@@Crazymrpipz well someone needs a trip to freedom camp 😒😂😂 we fighting bots this orders lol
since the removed the spear ability target fabricators, the spears seems to be a bugs weapon now.