Sandro Tonali faces a new ban as the Premier League charge the Newcastle player with gambling breaches during his time at Newcastle. Mark Goldbridge reacts to the latest football news.
Good on you Mark for sympathising with addiction problems. Paul Merson makes a good point about the FA and PL being quite happy for betting firms to sponsor clubs while dishing out bans.
There's no correlation here... Tonali isn't getting a ban because gambling is bad or because he has an addiction... Tonali is getting banned for a legal conflict of interest which he was aware of
That’s not how hypocrisy works. They aren’t holding a moral stance while not upholding it themselves, this is specifically about athletes not being allowed to bet on the sport they’re participating in, which makes perfect logical sense. They can bet on anything else they like.
someone with a gambling addiction surrounded by gambling sponsors and adverts, getting a massive suspension for using said gambling sites. FA and UEFA are an absolute travesty
He's not getting banned for gambling... he's getting banned for a legal conflict of interest. He can gamble... he can't gamble on competitions which he is in
They're literally just sponsors... I don't see them having any more hold on a team than Heineken has on the Champions League. Tonali got banned for a legal conflict of interest
@@Do27gg Arab businessmen just care about money not morals or religion. Go to dubai and see the truth. Its shameful that these arabs will do anything for money.
I feel sad for Tonali and hope he can recover. Getting back in the highest level of football might not be what he should focus on.Gambling addiction (if thats whats going on and it might be is a terrible thing).
Recover? He's not injured. He just broke a few rules as he's clearly a moron. As far as I know he's still training, so he'll be ready to play when his ban(s) end.
As much as I understand that addiction is awful in any form... Gambling gets a horrible name compared to drugs or alcohol despite having some of the best rehabilitation tools like Net nanny. People need to grow up and realize gambling is just meant to be entertainment. Gambling sites are by law required to include these rehabilitation techniques on their site too
Well they deny that they knew. Newcastle made them an outrageous offer, Tonali transferred in July and nothing came out about this until October. It seems believable that they didn't know about this.
@@murasame1450yet it's funny AC Milan had no knowledge of tonalis betting but Newcastle had supposedly not done correct due diligence on the player. Something doesn't smell right! Outrageous?, for a player of tonalis ability and statue, plus as their golden boy, seems a huge cut price to me. More suspicious smells 👃
As stated over and over it’s nothing to do gambling in general it’s betting on games ect on the game you’re involved in.its called conflict of interest !!
I don’t understand how melts like yourself don’t understand that it would completely brake the game, why wouldn’t all the team and there family just put thousands if not millions on a bet to get 6+ yellow cards and they all just get carded on purpose, you understand now dummy?
As a Newcastle fan I'm devastated and annoyed. Really poor homework from Newcastle. A problem this big should never had gotten through the cracks. Should have spent the extra money for Barella. Absolutely gutted at barely seeing Tonali kick a ball this season, such a talented player. What could have been this season. Players do need to be put off through bans but they do need support to get over these addictions. It's going to be a long road before Tonali kicks a ball again but will be like a new signing when he does.
I’d rather we make these mistakes at the start of our journey than during a crucial title race season etc in the future. But yes, a very weird set of events in which you have to ask questions of Newcastle but also AC Milan and Tonali himself who both knew Newcastle were getting scammed.
@@04lraffaini Newcastle were in for Barella and made a bid. Then Milan offered Tonali for a lesser price. Whole transfer stinks of Milan knowing, fair play to them like.
Any ban from the FA will likely be concurrent with the one he is already serving. Football needs to dissociate itself from gambling and gambling companies..
115 court date soon happen so just chill bro there charges so they still have to prove if they broke all of them some of them a few or even none at all
These bets were placed before his initial conviction. There is no evidence he placed bets while suspended, the FA was aware of these bets when he admitted everything back in october. Its only taken this long to charge him.
And you know this how? He was charged and suspended by Italian authorities for 18 months, with 8 of those commuted. The FA wasn't aware of anything when they registered him as a Newcastle United player. These are fresh charges for bets he placed after he became an EPL player. You can count on him missing the entire next season.
mark, fairplay to you for bringing this up, im 34 and had a bit of a promblem when a was young, when i was living with me parents working a normal job thought a was a millionaire on pay straight to the bookies, now i might have a £5 bet once every few weeks, i never got any support back then but much more available out there,
the bots in the replies in the comment section shows you the gambling industry is hell bent on blaming the players, and keeping the disease of gambling addiction directed at the football community and the fans. whatever age.
so professional athletes betting is wrong and leads to long suspensions but MPs can invest in arms companies to make a profit when they start wars and nothing is done about it
To be fair, he can gamble as much as he wants, as long as it's not on football. If he wants help with his gambling addiction, great - help him, but he's not a victim in this circumstance, and his addiction is not an excuse because he can bet on literally anything else he wants with no profession-related repercussions.
I work for a bookie, and it's our responsibility to restrict bets from the sport of that sports pro. The bookie created the platform to allow this and should be heavily fine imo!
Where did you get this from? Milan denied knowing about it. I may be biased because I'm a Milan fan, but Newcastle made them outrageous offer for Tonali. We as fans were shocked that he was to be sold because a lot identified with him as he also was a Milan supporter as a kid. Of course now they won't come out and admit it. But Tonali transfered in July and we didn't here anything about charges until October. So Milan should be given the benefit of the doubt until evidence comes out that proves that they knew.
I saw this story on a football article app and below it ... an advert about betting ... go figure - So if players are being handed huge bans why are these gambling sites still allowed to operate so freely?
This reminds me of the Michael Jordan gambling addictions stories and news, the key for me here is to really establish, before speaking, whether Tonali really has an addiction problem or is it softer than that and, if the latter, whether a professional footballer’s career could be back on track
These new charges are about bets he placed before he was banned, not since then. The chronology is important. Any FA charges are likely to run concurrent with his FIFA ban.
Why only players? How about club owners and executives? Coaches and trainers too? Do they investigate about owners betting? They should, even if it's betting amongst themselves.
I was specifically of him being abdicated at first, but continuing to do it after you know you're being investigated in the Prem is a sign of something seriously wrong.
The PL has to go through due process. However, if they actually ban him on top of his existing ban that's just sheer vindictiveness against Newcastle. Newcastle were NOT aware of this when they bought him.
What will a further ban do to help him sitting at home now can't train with his club what you think will happen now no online bookies will stop him from having accounts and betting the whole 8 months sad to see hope the lad gets the help he needs and he can resume his career when his ban is over how about reducing the ban and forcing him to get help or take classes with former addicts his football is the far lesser of two evils if he can't get help
I worry now as our transfer team has been bloody awful for years and it now looks like ashworth isnt as great as everyone makes out. Surely he has involvement in looking into backgrounds of players? Not a great start if ashworth not as great at his job when utd have been screaming out for top people coming in to improve all things that the glazers failed on.
Unbelievable United still wants him. I can’t remember any world class signing of ashworth at Newcastle or Brighton. At least no signing nobody else already spotted
He's being treated as a victim which is a bit weird. Yes gambling addiction is a problem... but him betting on games he's involved with is corruption not gambling.
I don’t think you should be getting bans for gambling, only if you gamble on yourself or your own team then yea that deserves a ban but not if you don’t gamble on things that directly involve you
Was Tonali betting on Newcastle matches ir Ac Milan matches during his tenure? I don't understand why he can't bet on soccer matches were he's not involved in? Makes no sense to me.
The player needs help getting his life sorted out. It does beg the question: what enquiries did Newcastle make before paying a huge fee for the player?
As long as betting on football is allowed and keep seeing unbelievable officiating and Players making huge mistakes there will be accusations of match fixing. Not healthy.
you can not watch football without being bombarded with online betting sites everywhere. Maybe this should be looked at before they punish the players . The premier league and football is happy to take money for advertising from these sites
The ban on advertising by betting companies are on the way and are already being phased in by some countries. This will go the same way as cigarette advertising and will be driven by governments.
Think he didn’t want to leave Milan, saw a vid of him and his Mrs touring the Newcastle gym and he wasn’t impressed/happy. Possibly didn’t want the transfer, which lead to further depression/ gambling. Needs help, not more punishment!
Ac Milan really scammed Newcastle 😂😂😂
Newcastle gonna take them to the cleaners in court 🤣🤣
@@spacehopper4417 lmao nope
@@hustler666100oh you’re a lawyer that’s part of the litigation, are you?
@@spacehopper4417 Newcastle don't have a leg to stand on. Small change for their owners, but it does impact on FFP/PSR.
@@asbjrn8108Are you ?
Good on you Mark for sympathising with addiction problems. Paul Merson makes a good point about the FA and PL being quite happy for betting firms to sponsor clubs while dishing out bans.
Would he support it if it was Man Utd? I very much doubt it
@@libbywood9248think he would
There's no correlation here... Tonali isn't getting a ban because gambling is bad or because he has an addiction... Tonali is getting banned for a legal conflict of interest which he was aware of
When is there going to responsibilty for the perpetrators unless the system in general is created to make sure they never win
He can bet on other things tho
They charge players for betting then advertise betting everywhere,hypocrites
That’s not how hypocrisy works. They aren’t holding a moral stance while not upholding it themselves, this is specifically about athletes not being allowed to bet on the sport they’re participating in, which makes perfect logical sense. They can bet on anything else they like.
@@steveo4991yep prevents match fixing
this legit doesn't make sense.
They shouldn’t allow betting sponsorships imo, getting children to wear drink or gambling ads is wrong
This is a conflict of interest, nothing to do with sponsors lol
The ad I got on this video was a betting company 😂
I got one for Man city, it said you can sponsor a plastic fan for as little as 5.99 a month
The channel has them turned on 😮
someone with a gambling addiction surrounded by gambling sponsors and adverts, getting a massive suspension for using said gambling sites.
FA and UEFA are an absolute travesty
It has got nothing to do with fifa or uefa
@@ian_r125
they are the ultimate ruling bodies... they have to ratify any ban..
He could just bet on other sports tbf
So it should be allowed ? It’s criminal.
He's not getting banned for gambling... he's getting banned for a legal conflict of interest. He can gamble... he can't gamble on competitions which he is in
Get rid of bad eggs before they spoil others. AC Milan did a wonderful job on this
Classic Italians 👌
The bookies are the bad eggs
@@Erysx12juventino since the 80s, and yeah this is hilarious . I hope our guy fagioli who ratted tonali out can stay clean though
@@cjwill9920 nope
@@calumstewart7665 if you say no you're either a bookie or a degenerate
The amount of power and hold sports betting has on football is amazing
Basketball too
They're literally just sponsors... I don't see them having any more hold on a team than Heineken has on the Champions League. Tonali got banned for a legal conflict of interest
Imagine making an Islamic team be sponsored by a beer company, it’s exactly the same
@@Do27gg Arab businessmen just care about money not morals or religion. Go to dubai and see the truth. Its shameful that these arabs will do anything for money.
I feel sad for Tonali and hope he can recover. Getting back in the highest level of football might not be what he should focus on.Gambling addiction (if thats whats going on and it might be is a terrible thing).
Recover? He's not injured. He just broke a few rules as he's clearly a moron. As far as I know he's still training, so he'll be ready to play when his ban(s) end.
Gambling addiction is horrendous.
it is but it's hilarious. It's like a ponzi scheme.
Why is that muffin doing it then
@@JohnKobaRuddyno it isn’t
As much as I understand that addiction is awful in any form... Gambling gets a horrible name compared to drugs or alcohol despite having some of the best rehabilitation tools like Net nanny. People need to grow up and realize gambling is just meant to be entertainment. Gambling sites are by law required to include these rehabilitation techniques on their site too
@@brettpope3573 we're bombarded with gambling ads now & it's so easy to deposit ridiculous sums of money very quickly
Milan really knew what they were doing
Well they deny that they knew. Newcastle made them an outrageous offer, Tonali transferred in July and nothing came out about this until October. It seems believable that they didn't know about this.
Proof? They got a great offer and they took it. Absolutely nothing to suggest they knew anything about this.
@@murasame1450yet it's funny AC Milan had no knowledge of tonalis betting but Newcastle had supposedly not done correct due diligence on the player. Something doesn't smell right!
Outrageous?, for a player of tonalis ability and statue, plus as their golden boy, seems a huge cut price to me. More suspicious smells 👃
@@NZGeordieBogan Tonali is decent but he’s hardly worth more than £60m
Sad to see a really good Italian midfielder getting his career destroyed.
i mean its his own fault
You make it sound like its not his own fault
Have some respect he's got a huge addiction
@@Ichbinamwandernaddiction is an illness.
Tbf it's addiction.
To have rules against betting but had the adverts plastered all over the grounds and shirts is remarkable
As stated over and over it’s nothing to do gambling in general it’s betting on games ect on the game you’re involved in.its called conflict of interest !!
I don’t understand how melts like yourself don’t understand that it would completely brake the game, why wouldn’t all the team and there family just put thousands if not millions on a bet to get 6+ yellow cards and they all just get carded on purpose, you understand now dummy?
@@davidedwards1786 they don't bet in the games they're involved in they bet on other leagues etc
I feel saddened... As a United fan I was excited about Tonali to Newcastle but that did not turn out well.
AC milan knew. it was always going to be fishy since he’s their best player
He wasn’t their best player… yeah he’s better than all the Newcastle midfield but Milan has always had good midfields
As a Newcastle fan I'm devastated and annoyed. Really poor homework from Newcastle. A problem this big should never had gotten through the cracks. Should have spent the extra money for Barella.
Absolutely gutted at barely seeing Tonali kick a ball this season, such a talented player. What could have been this season. Players do need to be put off through bans but they do need support to get over these addictions. It's going to be a long road before Tonali kicks a ball again but will be like a new signing when he does.
There is a bad omen on this transfer now
I’d rather we make these mistakes at the start of our journey than during a crucial title race season etc in the future. But yes, a very weird set of events in which you have to ask questions of Newcastle but also AC Milan and Tonali himself who both knew Newcastle were getting scammed.
Should have bought Barella instead 😂 , prem fans make me laugh.
Don’t know football outside the overrated Premier League
They didn't find it suspicious that bigger clubs weren't swooping him up!
Very egotistical!
@@04lraffaini Newcastle were in for Barella and made a bid. Then Milan offered Tonali for a lesser price. Whole transfer stinks of Milan knowing, fair play to them like.
A very well detailed video mark ❤. Honestly
What about man city 115????
That‘ll be a gamble.
I wouldn't bet on it...
Very well said Mark
Any ban from the FA will likely be concurrent with the one he is already serving. Football needs to dissociate itself from gambling and gambling companies..
Funny how every team and everyone gets banned, fined and punished except the 115
115 court date soon happen so just chill bro there charges so they still have to prove if they broke all of them some of them a few or even none at all
City Derangement Syndrome 😂
Tonali was a player that I loved to watch when he was at AC Milan, its sad to see this happening.
Everybody getting investigated and punished except city
Have a day off, man 😭
I condemn this from Stoke's Bet365 stadium
These bets were placed before his initial conviction. There is no evidence he placed bets while suspended, the FA was aware of these bets when he admitted everything back in october. Its only taken this long to charge him.
It's a total disgrace of justice for Tonali to face double jeopardy for basically the same crime/disorder
And you know this how? He was charged and suspended by Italian authorities for 18 months, with 8 of those commuted. The FA wasn't aware of anything when they registered him as a Newcastle United player. These are fresh charges for bets he placed after he became an EPL player. You can count on him missing the entire next season.
@@gustaaf1892 the dates. It's quite simple and easy to work out.
@@gustaaf1892already been said he won’t be extended these are just the cases since he joined the premier league BEFORE he was convicted
What Mark is saying here is genuine and well said.
mark, fairplay to you for bringing this up, im 34 and had a bit of a promblem when a was young, when i was living with me parents working a normal job thought a was a millionaire on pay straight to the bookies, now i might have a £5 bet once every few weeks, i never got any support back then but much more available out there,
Betting whilst already being suspended is insane! 😂😂😂AC Milan are having a right laugh
the bots in the replies in the comment section shows you the gambling industry is hell bent on blaming the players, and keeping the disease of gambling addiction directed at the football community and the fans. whatever age.
so professional athletes betting is wrong and leads to long suspensions but MPs can invest in arms companies to make a profit when they start wars and nothing is done about it
It’s insider trading, for example you could know the line up prior to everyone else and bet on first goal of the striker is different for the day.
To be fair, he can gamble as much as he wants, as long as it's not on football. If he wants help with his gambling addiction, great - help him, but he's not a victim in this circumstance, and his addiction is not an excuse because he can bet on literally anything else he wants with no profession-related repercussions.
I work for a bookie, and it's our responsibility to restrict bets from the sport of that sports pro. The bookie created the platform to allow this and should be heavily fine imo!
@@brettdearaujo6664depends if he literally did it himself and walk into a shop or download an App and do it anonymously
@@brettdearaujo6664 Responsible to whom?
Newcastle got to be suing AC Milan as they knew yet said nothing hence why they put him up for sale. UEFA should charge AC Milan also
Where did you get this from? Milan denied knowing about it. I may be biased because I'm a Milan fan, but Newcastle made them outrageous offer for Tonali. We as fans were shocked that he was to be sold because a lot identified with him as he also was a Milan supporter as a kid. Of course now they won't come out and admit it. But Tonali transfered in July and we didn't here anything about charges until October. So Milan should be given the benefit of the doubt until evidence comes out that proves that they knew.
@@murasame1450 lol Milan aint dumb, they knew.
@@CristanioPeweyyyProve it!
@@leemartin3429 Prove City broke 115 rules.
@@CristanioPeweyyy Well that's what they are currently trying to do. Until then they are innocent. Same as claiming that Milan knew about this.
what about refs screwing up the league
wonder how many refs/var are betting..
Newcastle in big trouble good video 👏
How about punishing Man City
Manchester City was also betting?
@@tomodul2619 Gambling on not getting caught.
@@tomodul2619 They're betting that they'll get away with all their cheating.
I saw this story on a football article app and below it ... an advert about betting ... go figure - So if players are being handed huge bans why are these gambling sites still allowed to operate so freely?
Even channels like Sky Sports are betting ads on repeat
Don’t understand while investigated in Italy he didn’t admit to doing in uk so it would run side by side and dealt with together.
This reminds me of the Michael Jordan gambling addictions stories and news, the key for me here is to really establish, before speaking, whether Tonali really has an addiction problem or is it softer than that and, if the latter, whether a professional footballer’s career could be back on track
These new charges are about bets he placed before he was banned, not since then. The chronology is important. Any FA charges are likely to run concurrent with his FIFA ban.
He really did it in the Premier League as well 😂😂
But clubs and the FA are more than happy to take the countless millions from gambling advertising. Talk about passive aggressive signals…
Everybody charged before city
Why do we allow betting companies to advertise before, between and after football matches and on the billboards in the stadium.
Why should we not?
Apparently the FA already knew when the original charges on him were given so there wont be another ban on top of his current one
Why only players? How about club owners and executives? Coaches and trainers too? Do they investigate about owners betting? They should, even if it's betting amongst themselves.
Newcastle gambled on him. Now the fun stops
I was specifically of him being abdicated at first, but continuing to do it after you know you're being investigated in the Prem is a sign of something seriously wrong.
The next thing to come out is ref's fixing. Bet theyll be a big expose at some point and all of those insane var calls will start to make sense!
The PL has to go through due process. However, if they actually ban him on top of his existing ban that's just sheer vindictiveness against Newcastle.
Newcastle were NOT aware of this when they bought him.
He’s now probably betting on what year he gets to come back.
I don't get the issue as long as it doesn't involve a game he plays in
I actually hope gets told to do a treatment program to possibly avoid a new ban
That is a condition of his Italian ban, which is why 8 of the 18 months suspension was commuted.
A Dan Ashworth signing, what does that say about his ability as a sporting director? And now he’s going to Man United, good luck with that.
It's being reported that the ban won't be extended
Damn it Tonali not again
Mark Goldbridge giving life advice is crazy
What will a further ban do to help him sitting at home now can't train with his club what you think will happen now no online bookies will stop him from having accounts and betting the whole 8 months sad to see hope the lad gets the help he needs and he can resume his career when his ban is over how about reducing the ban and forcing him to get help or take classes with former addicts his football is the far lesser of two evils if he can't get help
Tonali got banned but nothing happened to 115 charges.
What happened to Win Lose or Draw Mark? The best prediction show on CZcams
Goldie forgot to check the volume when he made the videos today. All love though.
I worry now as our transfer team has been bloody awful for years and it now looks like ashworth isnt as great as everyone makes out. Surely he has involvement in looking into backgrounds of players? Not a great start if ashworth not as great at his job when utd have been screaming out for top people coming in to improve all things that the glazers failed on.
He 's new carges was from august to septeber, he wasent banned at that point, and it was a 10month ban, not 8 true sadness
Mark you always yelling or is it my volume lol
What about Man city master and the top six curroption are going for small team's
Some people are just meant to fall we can only hope that they hit rock bottom quickly and can get back up just as fast.
Your volume is too high.
he didnt need bet on his own team addict or not. long ago some bet on throw ins and such and easy to fix when u play and make money.
He has not made a bet “Post charge”.
The punishment should be concurrent.
Let's go prize picks ⛳
Mark Goldbridge works for William Hill
One of Dan Ashworth deals … 😂😂😂😂😂great due diligence Dan!!
Unbelievable United still wants him. I can’t remember any world class signing of ashworth at Newcastle or Brighton. At least no signing nobody else already spotted
@@sumostorms Dan Ashworth is a DOF not a HoR
He was an ashworth signing, why do u think we want ashworth out and dont care if he goes to manure
He's being treated as a victim which is a bit weird. Yes gambling addiction is a problem... but him betting on games he's involved with is corruption not gambling.
Big fine for the first offence + social support and rehab, ban + fine for the following offences.
Fines are worthless to players that rich
If he was betting on games he was involved in then its not an addiction, its corruption
Yeh but he was betting on his team to win. That’s not throwing games. Although admittedly it is very much against the rules.
Yeah, it's not a gamble if he's in control of it.
Gambling is a severe addiction. He definitely needs help with it.
I previously suffered with gambling. Every waking moment i'd be betting. Looking back, utterly awful. But in the moment I just thought of the upside.
Really sad. I thought Tonali would be one of the best signings last summer.😢
I don’t think you should be getting bans for gambling, only if you gamble on yourself or your own team then yea that deserves a ban but not if you don’t gamble on things that directly involve you
That's what he did... that's the ban... people just don't read
who remembers Tonali in the Lockdown FIFA truly the Italian Roy Keane, hate to see such talent wasted.
I feel it Newcastle fans but really for Eddie Howe to have such a player banned.
The Italians done newcastle dirty
It's not gambling if you can control the outcome. Nothing to do with a gambling addiction, it's a money addiction aka match fixing
They need to help him not ban him
A ban might help. Match fixing should be a bannable offense
how many Teams in the world are sponsored by betting sites?
Was Tonali betting on Newcastle matches ir Ac Milan matches during his tenure?
I don't understand why he can't bet on soccer matches were he's not involved in? Makes no sense to me.
Horrific is a bit much.
The game is a wash with betting companies so it's no surprise footballers feel entitled to bet.
It's going to run concurrently so it won't be a new ban
The player needs help getting his life sorted out. It does beg the question: what enquiries did Newcastle make before paying a huge fee for the player?
It’s doubtful they would of checked his sky bet account like
Instead of punishing him help with because it’s obvious he has a serious gambling problem
where was Newcastle's due diligence money down the drain
new castle really need to sue ac milan
Dan Ashworth signing great Director of Football
His ban ain’t being extended…keep up mark🤷🏼♂️
it will
@@cyberturkey77 been confirmed it’s not… his charge is combined with the Italy one so the ban won’t be extended
@@cyberturkey77you can bet on it
No one knows yet.
@@jordanb966 not how the FA works
As long as betting on football is allowed and keep seeing unbelievable officiating and
Players making huge mistakes there will be accusations of match fixing. Not healthy.
It's hell he needs not a ban. .. its a mental issue this is not on ...
So because he made some stupid decisions to bet he deserves hell?
He's not addicted he's just an idiot... the sites he uses have gambling blockers available if he wants
Might be one of our worst signings ever at thi rate and the money we spent on him ughh
There isnt going to be a further ban. They will run concurrently
you can not watch football without being bombarded with online betting sites everywhere. Maybe this should be looked at before they punish the players . The premier league and football is happy to take money for advertising from these sites
The ban on advertising by betting companies are on the way and are already being phased in by some countries. This will go the same way as cigarette advertising and will be driven by governments.
Newcastle should sue him ...
Think he didn’t want to leave Milan, saw a vid of him and his Mrs touring the Newcastle gym and he wasn’t impressed/happy. Possibly didn’t want the transfer, which lead to further depression/ gambling. Needs help, not more punishment!