Also can’t wait till they start selling the land cruiser 70 series with the Diesel engine here in the US. the colors are crazy. Matte white, matte tan, matte black, matte green. Crazy.
I own a 2016 sequoia. It's got the 5.7, leather wrapped steering, and guess what....I can lock the diffs. Sucks gas, but it's got balls and dependable. Hope they keep making it, they never advertise it.
I have those exact same tires on my Z-71 Silverado, and they actually perform surprisingly well for a non-agressive tire off the beaten path. The best part is how smooth and quiet they are on the highway. Great test guys!
@@philtripe lol no I wasn't hoping it broke down, I'm actually a pretty big Toyota fan. I just don't like dumb titles. If it turned into a transformer and walked up the hill, then it would be something 'I wouldn't believe'.
@@philtripe The skid is steel. The gas TANK is plastic - underneath the skid. The OEM skids aren't all that great - but they work perfectly for this kind of use. If you're headed through the Rubicon - you'll want something more durable for sure. The LC200 has legit thicker gauge steel skids that are perfectly at home rock crawling - but the LC200 also weighs more than a Tundra. It's a heavy pig.
That isn't what I would really call testing in the "snow". Especially compared to the three year old video in the beginning. Had it been the same conditions, those street tires would have for sure let you down.
Love the comments whining about how old the truck is and that it's not luxurious enough. You guys need to turn in your man cards, and go get yourself a shiny new Soccer Mom SUV and probably some tampons too.
Jason Creech mine has no oil consumption problems. It also does better off-road than my g80 equipped Chevy. I’ve not witnessed any “frame” issues either. It’s been great. You’re full of shit.
Tires make all the difference...the tires on that Tundra were literally all-season tires. Those Michelin's just won't cut it in serious mud or snow. Maybe some Goodyear Duratracs?
I have a 2018, TRD limited and love it. I live in PA and have the same tires. Through the last couple snow storms they are surprisingly good. I will be switching to a set of Goodyear Duratrac's as soon as these wear down, but all in all not a bad tire at all. I love this truck, i've owned many fords and gm's, and yes GM and Ford have nicer interiors and more high tech features available... but each and every one of those I spent many visits to the dealerships. This toyota is just rock solid. It works, it does everything well, even as the oldest design on the market right now I would pick my toyota time and time again over the competition. Anyone that talks bad about a toyota hasn't owned one. Once you go toyota it's hard to want to go back to anything else. Did I mention this motor is a beast!
Exactly my comparison. Interior is functional, not dated as such. Sure could use lots of outlets but are you driving or texting? Like the style. Looks big but not oversized. The style will age well. Not so sure about the same year GMC/Chevy. Don't want lots of dealer issues although by Colorado has been pretty much reliable except for the crappy headlights and seats.
Gentlemen, I happened to watch this video last night while researching possible replacements for my 2013 Ram 1500. Given the snowy conditions, like you, I was impressed with TRD Pro Tundra's performance running all three stages of the route successfully. It's actually even more impressive when you consider that you managed it with an open rear differential. You mention the Tundra's Auto-LSD at one point as one of the traction control aids the truck offers in addition to a 2-speed transfer case. However, unless something has changed recently (as in the year or two) the Auto-LSD feature wasn't a factor in your success. The Toyota Auto-LSD operates only in 2WD mode, not in 4WD. While it is a traction improvement tool situationally, on slick highways or on a wet boat ramp when in 2WD, it's not helpful in the situation you guys tackled in the video. I see lots of comments to the effect that it doesn't have a "true locker". In truth, when in 4WD mode, it has no locker of any kind. I also see comments about the on-road biased on-road/off-road Michelins. Both true. But abra cadabra, you got where you were going and it actually looked kind of easy. Well done. In the larger context, all modern (I use "modern" charitably in the Tundra's case) full-sized pickups are handicapped off road anyway - they have big breakover angles and substantial width. I'm reminded of that fact every time I lose a side stirrup to a boulder or listen to the nails-on-chalkboard sound of creosote branches removing long stripes of paint from my doors and fenders. If my main pursuit was off-roading, I would not pick a big truck to do it. When I off road it's almost always to get someplace hard to reach to do some other activity like archaeological surveys, take a backcountry hike, photograph something under just-the-right light, observational astronomy, etc. For all of these things big cargo capacity is a must. The Tundra has big second row cargo space and with a shell, big enough bed cargo space. It has slowly crept up my list from the very bottom (on account of the usual gripes - no locker, horrendous fuel economy, last-century gear box, etc.). For my intended use it's better than my current truck - better ground clearance, fancier factory suspension with the Fox set-up, LED headlamps and fog lights, much better range-per-tank with it's 38 gallon fuel tank (my Ram has the stock 26 gallon, but even if I swapped in the optional 32 gallon, this Tundra would still have more real-world range as my Ram averages only about 14.5 mpg in mixed driving with a 5.7L Hemi and a 3.91 rear) and for those LONG highway slogs getting from home here in Napa Valley in California to the 4 Corners region to play, it has radar cruise-control for those 12-14 hour driving days. I also think the price is actually pretty good when you compare apples to apples. Ignore the marketing that would have us think this Tundra is Toyota's answer to Ford's Raptor or the Ram Rebel. It's not. The Tundra TRD Pro at ~$52-54k has a feature mix you can't match with Ram or F-150 for anything close to that price. Try it. Price a Ram or F-150 (haven't tried it yet with a Silverado/Sierra) with the following: 4WD, crew-cab, SB, leather seating surfaces, LED headlamps and fog lights, fancy factory performance exhaust, V8, auto-LSD or alternative, sat-Nav, auto-cruise, stock skid plates and a big fuel tank. A comparably equipped 2021 Ram 1500 Laramie Crew Cab short bed 4x4 lacks a fancy suspension option (unless you want to treat the $1800 air suspension as a Fox suspension alternative, which pushes the Laramie price even higher) and comes in around $58k in MSRP, about 4k more than the Tundra. F-150? Ha, ha, ha, ha. Overpriced compared to alternative in any apples-to-apples trim comparison - You're just over $60k MSRP. Toyotas tend to have better resale value than Fords or Rams (or Chevy/GMCs), so economically you pay less going in (apples-to-apples in feature terms) and get more of what you paid coming back out after 5-10 years. No decision yet, but as I said, the Tundra has slowly climbed from "almost didn't consider it" to "I could see buying one to replace my current truck".
If you want to run in snow you need to turn atrac and vsc completely off or the computer will limit the power output because it detects wheel slip. Someone that knows how to drive a Tundra would have 0 issues with this climb. The tires need to spin to clear snow out of the treads.
As a yougin, I think that the interior is ugly as hell. The type of people that buy these trucks are older than the sun and the moon, so I’m sure that they won’t mind. They certainly won’t be going off road though... At least not intentionally... LOL
People say it's outdated and old compared to the competition but it sells well and people love it. Not all truck drivers want electronics stuff and 10" screens in their cars.
@@kingdaniel3519 for a 10 years old truck the sales are good. All other competitors are more advanced in term of technology and engines but Toyota still managed to sell good numbers of the Tundra. Probably the next Gen will arrive in 2020
Still driving my 2006 Tundra w/TRD Off Road pkg. Have driven the dog out of it with very few issues. No rust, 16 MPG from the baby V8 (4.7L), drives great, no rattles. Although I like the looks of the domestics, I’m too old to throw away $$$$$$ on bad resale. My old truck is still worth $9-10K and only paid $28k in 2007.
Personally im a fan of limited slip, I live in Ontario, Canada where it can snow quite heavily and not having to stop the truck and hit a button to lock the rear end is actually really handy. That being said, theres no replacement for a "true locker" when off road in mud or rock.
Love that truck....dont care if the model is an older one.....truck models change too often.....too much tech to deal with and repair in the long run.....reason why i always look at base model... Now Toyota, id go middle or TRD. Titans i probably go middle.....anything without sunroof and chrome....and with a keyed ignition if possible. Thats a perfect truck.
This is one of the most beautiful, capable and reliable trucks on the planet. If I had an extra 50k it would certainly be my first choice. Titan PRO 4X would be my second choice.
I love my 17 Tundra TRD. Doesn’t have all the bells and whistles but it’s built like a tank, smooth on the highway and as reliable as a Camry. People complain about the Powertrain but when you look at the money other makers dump into newer power trains with similar power outputs and 1-2MPG difference, it’s not a cost Toyota wants to have to pass on to the customer. I had an 11’ Rock Warrior with 98K miles on it and zero issues either. If it ain’t broke...
Did stage 3 at a 10mph steady roll in a tundra TRD PRO but tried it at idle with the outback then bashed the car when it didnt make it. Should’ve let the tundra idle up it at .5mph too (would’ve done the same thing as the outback).
Was gonna comment the same thing and would never own either one, come on TFL. There was snow but the frozen dirt wouldn't be as loose as summer either.
King Daniel What am I missing? I have had Ford,Dodge,GMC,Honda,Volkswagen,Nissan,Buick, Cadillac, Chevy and we now have two Toyota's. the Honda Civic had 401,000 miles when sold and the ridgeline had 155,000 when sold with no problem. I can't say this with the others because of multiple problems. I am saying this just from my experience with multiple cars from multiple companies and at this point my Honda's and Toyota's have gone way past what I was getting out of the others.
I've had a Dodge Ram, a few F150s, a couple of Toyotas and a Chevy Z71 over the years. My Camry went through 2 engines and needed a 3rd so I sold it back to the dealer under the lemon law with less than 25,000 miles. My Tacoma was the worst. Couldn't keep it running more than a few weeks at a time without something going wrong: tranny lost 4th gear, rear axle went out, transfer case burnt up, it was only 4 years old and there was rust showing on the rocker panels, not to mention the piddly shit that kept nickel and diming me to death. I live in the South, no where even near the rust belt! After it left me stranded on the side of the road for the umpteenth time, I had had enough. Went out the following week and bought an F150 and have been happier ever since. That was over 20 years ago. My F150s have had their issues over the years, but there's 1 important thing they've never done: Left me stuck on the side of the road. I've always been able to drive it home. Bully for you that you got your money's worth from them. For me though, you couldn't GIVE me another Toyota.
Tundra is a money printing press. Toyota makes 3 times as much per unit on Tundra as any of the big 3. Tundra sales are still solid. It's looking like 2020 for an update, probably moving to a twin turbo v6 and 8 speed like the Lexus vehicles have. 416hp 450 ft/lb. Pretty similar to the Ecoboost. That's my bet of what we'll see in the engine bay. Otherwise it'll probably be pretty similar. Nothing meaningful has changed in truck design otherwise. The new GM trucks visually look nearly identical.
"Need a little more speed" funny Atrac and lsd don't work well over a certain rpm. Learn how the Toyotas atrac, vsc, and alsd work before making this video. A Tundra will lay 2 solid black lines if you know how it works
No. But it will lay two solud black lines if you stop and hold the traction control for 4 seconds. My only bitch about that is that the brakes will still automatically apply sometimes. The traction control could use to be turned off 100% instead of 90% in my opinion.
Such a beautiful manly truck, my favourite in design, I just wish they spent a bit more on the interior and on improving the fuel efficiency, like with a newer transmission, a 8 speed or something
Tim Kelly Acronym taken. URD, Underdog Racing Development. They make Superchargers and other tuning devices for Toyotas. I’m guessing you’re trying to make a funny, right TimTim?
No way would I spend over 40k for 10yr old tech. Just got back from Tahoe snow in my Goldilocks F150 gen II 3.5 eco. still have zero problems and she is still a beast at 7,000ft. And still avg.'d 21.5 mpg.
@@ontheotherside3 Nope. Round trip. 420 miles. Going up to 80mph on the freeways. Still have over 1/4 tank of gas. Actually, trip comp. says 21.3mpg but its pretty damn accurate. Truck has been so good.
Something's really got into Andre since he's been four wheeling with the Raptor and the mud pit with the ranger. Give me a dollar every time Nathan says hell yeah please I love it keep it up. I know what you're talking about with those Nissan looking flat Square buttons on the dashboard this truck has two really come out looking strong in the next refresh.
Great truck! But hard to hand over $51k when you can get a 2 year old v8 FX4 with 40miles, + more features (lariat) for about $35k Good clip guys I do really like the TRDpro!
Unless the 2019 ram did some major structural changes, it was always the worst, by a very significant margin. 2018 and earlier rams would chop your legs off in a sub 30mph crash! This was avknowledged even, by ram owners. 2017-2018 crash studies done, on half tons rate the ram dead last and unacceptable. Again, things could, have changed with the 2019's.
Toyota is saving money by not having to update tooling or injection molds. Fox-Shocks can’t justify the price for what it severely lacks against its competitors.... you can see the $50k in Ford, Chevy & Ram. Hood scoop, shocks & fog lights aren’t gonna magically make a $30k truck become a $50k truck. If it’s as reliable as everyone touts, might as well buy a 10yr old model & outfit it like the current TRD ... nobody would know the difference & you’d save close to $30k
The smartest comment on this entire video. Might as well buy an older one (because you aren't getting anything new) put some 35s and a level and get yourself a nice car play/Android auto deck. If you take away the reliability of this newer tundra, what does it really leave you with?
Interesting point, but not saving 30k. I considered the same until comparing the value of Platinums/SR5's around 2-4 years old. At this range, it makes little sense to buy used. I picked up a '18 demo Tundra for nearly 10k off the sticker. It pays to shop.
2009 SR5 CrewMax TRD package, Tow Package 0 accidents per Carfax , 30min outside St. Louis $18,995 via Cargurus website .... $32k savings off new... should be able to get Fox Shocks & new hood for less than $2k
Wait a couple years, which I know is tough and search long and hard. I got my 2015 TRD Pro finally and it's exactly what I wanted in my Tundra for only 20k @ 55k miles
I was told by the dealer president of my Canadian prairie Toyota dealer the reason they don't put a more aggressive tire from the factory on the Tundra was because the fuel mileage is a touchy subject and would be even worse if it had bigger rubber. The individuals father owns the dealer and he has worked at the dealer for over 25 years and even built a 2014 Tundra with air locker, lift kit, big lights, winches, running boards and custom front and rear bumpers and possibly more stuff. True or not Toyota position is that if you are truly a off roader you will adapt the truck or buy a Tacoma. My personal thoughts are that the Tundra is already a big truck and if you are in the bush or swamp with a new truck you are going to scuff and scratch the clear coat whcih is kinda stupid. Carry a trailer and build a custom offroad vehicle to have fun instead of a quad that you don't care if it gets scratched or rolled so that you can go mudding or bashing to your hearts content.
So wait... Toyota puts out a decent but kind of dated truck, charges a bunch of money for it, and its bad ass. But Nissan does the same thing with the Titan but price it lower and it's not bad ass?
My titan has a Cummins, a heavy duty aisin tranny, and a rear locker from the factory. And it was cheaper than a sr5 tundra with a couple options. Still, I wonder if i made the right choice...
@@ontheotherside3 Pretty sure you do not have the same aisin tranny that goes into a dodge 3500. Your aisin transmission is a lighter duty, totally different transmission for a smaller 5.0 cummins. I do like the cummins/aisin combo in the new Titan though, I wish other manufacturers would offer it, Actually, I wish dodge would offer it in the 1500, get rid of that pos ecodiesel. Edit: I want to clarify, the Aisin A466ND in the Titan and the Aisin AS69RC in the dodge 3500 are similiar in the fact that they weigh approx the same (400lbs) and they share the same gear ratios. The AS69RC is said to be able to handle up to 950 ft-lbs of torque, while the A466NND is said to hold around 700 ft'lbs. On interesting fact is that, the rear axle on the Titan is from the NV3500 1 ton van.
@@SSMedic thanks for the edit and clarification on the model numbers. Looks like I was wrong about it being the same tranny, close, but not the same. Still, it is quite a bit overkill. The 5.0 cummins only puts out some 555 ish tq.
Titans are pieces of shit. I owned a 2010 and it had electrical issues, then I found out most of the parts come from China and are assembled here in Tennessee. Doesn’t have that Nissan Japanese reliability like the Frontier. No comparison to Toyotas. Titans are at the bottom of the food chain. Probably why they have to offer that crazy warranty to convince people to buy em
Typical of Toyota, they give you as little and as old as what they think they can get away with. Knowing that, Toyota, buyers will keep on coming back for more.
Grandpa would pick me up in his good old 1986 Toyota truck. He bought it new as a chassis cab, put a box on the rear end, and racked up over 300,000 miles on it. I was in the truck for 200 and 300, as was grandma. It’s really sad to see what Toyota is today. I can buy a boring, basic, reliable car from Toyota.... but I can buy a loaded car that’s reliable from other manufacturers nowadays! I would consider Toyota for a car, but not a truck.
I love my Tundra. I don't see any reason to go out and spend $20k more on a comparable domestic. Just read Motor Trend's domestic pickup test and all three @$70k. I can get a 1794 and a Camry for that money.
@@SalvationsHERE Ford, Chevrolet, Dodge all use their consumer for testing. By throwing cute little gadgets in their vehicles. Then scratch their heads while wondering why they are shutting down making cars. Wish they do a little r+d before sending new junk out.
I ordered a Nissan Navara np300 here in France ,comes standard with (ELSD) didn't take diff lock option , clad to see the ELSD works also good !! I am getting standard factory crossconti's m+s Tyres ,this will bee my first pick up ,SUV driver now !
Only Toyota could get away with not updating a powertrain for 12 YEARS!!!! That truck came out in 2007 and is basically untouched since. The only place it shows up as an 07 is the horrible mpg when compared to the competition. Power and performance is still competitive. Just goes to show how good it was in 07.
One mod some might not be aware of on Tundras is swapping out the transfer cases with a Sequoia adds a center differential and Awd ability along with selectable 2wd and 4wd
Nissan frontier has the tundra beat. The frontier came out in 2004 for the 05 model year. That was nearly 15 YEARS ago. The final generation of the mini ranger was sold for 14 years.
Adan Caborca where do you think fords ceos spend there money? They go on trips to elsewhere, they buy stuff made in China, besides Since the tundra plant is in Texas there are more Americans making more money. If you buy a car just cause it was engineered in the us and they get cheap labor from elsewhere then who’s really giving away money? Because those Mexican workers won’t come to spend a dime in the USA.
@@jeffschneider2356 I got a question for you. If technology was developed that fully automated semi trucks, meaning no more human truck drivers needed. And a law was passes to ban that technology in the USA because it would cause drivers nationwide to lose their jobs. Would you support such a law?
I’m upstate ny the TRDs are $45000 so I’m not going to complain lol you pay more for a ford, Ram or GM and you get all the recalls that come with lol Toyota does need to get rid of those tires though. They should atleast get some Felken Wild peak Atw3s. They are faily cheap tire. They get amazing traction in mud snow and wet roads with very little road noise.
Not only are those fake hood vents completely unnecessary, but they also obstruct your vision forward a bit by being taller than the bonnet. Ugly and useless. You can tell it's a TRD Pro from the wheels, blacked out door handles and blacked out grille with body-colored surrounds. There's no need for ugly body panels Toyota.
Still no electronic locker on the rear diff!!! It's had to understand Toyota's resistance to this common feature which is on all it's competitors off road versions. ATRAC works well with a locked differential on the Tacoma. It can't be an oversight or a engineering problem. On a truck that expensive, it should at least be an option.
@@captainstabbin9338 I knew you were just noting Toyota's position. They are very good at selling you the least for the most. Well run company if all you look at is profitability.
Japanese 10 year old technology, not the best truck by any real or measurable means and only about 65% made in the US(which is less than the F150 by a significant margin). So, riddle me this, Russian bot:If Toyoters are so damned good, why do you fucktwits drone on and on about resell?
Good luck trying to buy the new 2020 Toyota Tundra TRD CrewMax Pro starting at around $53,000. Since this truck is new, Toyota marks up the sticker price by about $10,000 more.
Did you run out of gas going up the hill? Thankfully the starter doesn't go out often. You have to tear off the top side of the engine to get to it. Not a cheap fix.
As much as I like Toyota, I think it’s kinda lame that you pay $50K+ for an off road truck, and you don’t get a true locker.
Bern on Cars it wouldnt cost much to add aftermarket locker?
I can overlook just about any other things on this truck, but damn Toyota. Put a rear locker in the thing.
You can spend over 90k on an LC500 and the LSD is extra.
I would much rather high end suspension. Had a locker on my last truck that I never used.
Hung Lo
Then you ain’t using your truck enough
Is it just me or do the Trundra’s and Tacoma’s have the best paint color choices in the truck segment rn
Also can’t wait till they start selling the land cruiser 70 series with the Diesel engine here in the US. the colors are crazy. Matte white, matte tan, matte black, matte green. Crazy.
it is white? Every manufacturer does that lol
I own a 2016 sequoia. It's got the 5.7, leather wrapped steering, and guess what....I can lock the diffs. Sucks gas, but it's got balls and dependable. Hope they keep making it, they never advertise it.
I have those exact same tires on my Z-71 Silverado, and they actually perform surprisingly well for a non-agressive tire off the beaten path. The best part is how smooth and quiet they are on the highway. Great test guys!
No, I believe it title. Stop with the stupid click bait.
you were hoping it broke down...you should rag on the cheap plastic skid plate then. thats pretty cheap of Toyota
@@philtripe lol no I wasn't hoping it broke down, I'm actually a pretty big Toyota fan. I just don't like dumb titles. If it turned into a transformer and walked up the hill, then it would be something 'I wouldn't believe'.
@@philtripe The skid is steel. The gas TANK is plastic - underneath the skid. The OEM skids aren't all that great - but they work perfectly for this kind of use. If you're headed through the Rubicon - you'll want something more durable for sure. The LC200 has legit thicker gauge steel skids that are perfectly at home rock crawling - but the LC200 also weighs more than a Tundra. It's a heavy pig.
Agreed. TFLT is better than this clickbait crap. Come on guys. What's next, you'll NEVER BELIEVE WHICH TRUCK MEGHAN MARKLE OWNS??
That isn't what I would really call testing in the "snow". Especially compared to the three year old video in the beginning. Had it been the same conditions, those street tires would have for sure let you down.
No shit. So why would they test in deep snow again?! There is snow on the ground. So yes they r testing in snowy conditions,gzz.
Aaaaand you completely missed the point. No worries.
@@2006civic78 your tahoe is also not as long as that tundra lol shorter wheelbase, so yeah, you wouldnt high center
Absolutely love my Tundra. My gf drives the Tacoma. Happy Toyota buyers here 👍🏽
Amen brother. Tundra owner here, wife has a highlander. Both vehicles limited. They are both fantastic vehicles for their intended purpose
Love the comments whining about how old the truck is and that it's not luxurious enough. You guys need to turn in your man cards, and go get yourself a shiny new Soccer Mom SUV and probably some tampons too.
Nodak81 yeah, because the definition of a man is driving a minimalist outdated truck.
@@Encourageable actually it is a working man. The dudes that do buy all these decked out trucks don't even need a truck.
I love my trucks as simple as possible. I buy my trucks to use them for truck stuff. The only complaint I have is no true locker on an offroad truck.
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Jason Creech mine has no oil consumption problems. It also does better off-road than my g80 equipped Chevy. I’ve not witnessed any “frame” issues either. It’s been great. You’re full of shit.
Tires make all the difference...the tires on that Tundra were literally all-season tires. Those Michelin's just won't cut it in serious mud or snow. Maybe some Goodyear Duratracs?
@@bjacks2927 Yup, it seems like the manufacturers always go cheap on the tires.
TIRES! TIRES! TIRES! YOU NEED AGGRESSIVE TREAD DOING WHAT YOUR DOING! THOSE ARE ALL SEASON SNEAKERS!....NOT WINTER BOOTS!😎
Vince, they don't control what tires the mfg. puts on the vehicles. And that button to the left of the 'a' key, push it please. Thanks.
Easy killer. Use that energy to push the caps button.
Ya, I know. I just didn't have my coffee yet. Those trucks are for city boys who think that a half a foot of snow is a challenge😎
the ground is frozen...youd need tracks to get up there now...even chains would have a hard time with that
Those are great tires.
I have a 2018, TRD limited and love it. I live in PA and have the same tires. Through the last couple snow storms they are surprisingly good. I will be switching to a set of Goodyear Duratrac's as soon as these wear down, but all in all not a bad tire at all. I love this truck, i've owned many fords and gm's, and yes GM and Ford have nicer interiors and more high tech features available... but each and every one of those I spent many visits to the dealerships. This toyota is just rock solid. It works, it does everything well, even as the oldest design on the market right now I would pick my toyota time and time again over the competition. Anyone that talks bad about a toyota hasn't owned one. Once you go toyota it's hard to want to go back to anything else. Did I mention this motor is a beast!
Exactly my comparison. Interior is functional, not dated as such. Sure could use lots of outlets but are you driving or texting? Like the style. Looks big but not oversized. The style will age well. Not so sure about the same year GMC/Chevy. Don't want lots of dealer issues although by Colorado has been pretty much reliable except for the crappy headlights and seats.
Love it when Andre gets down to do his inspection. What a happy soul.
Love the trd pro! Great honest truck. Hope to see more videos in the future boys. Great work as always!
Love Toyota, own a 2019 Tundra 4x4. Actually wanted to purchase the Pro, but the two scoops were a deal breaker for me.
Gentlemen, I happened to watch this video last night while researching possible replacements for my 2013 Ram 1500. Given the snowy conditions, like you, I was impressed with TRD Pro Tundra's performance running all three stages of the route successfully. It's actually even more impressive when you consider that you managed it with an open rear differential. You mention the Tundra's Auto-LSD at one point as one of the traction control aids the truck offers in addition to a 2-speed transfer case. However, unless something has changed recently (as in the year or two) the Auto-LSD feature wasn't a factor in your success.
The Toyota Auto-LSD operates only in 2WD mode, not in 4WD. While it is a traction improvement tool situationally, on slick highways or on a wet boat ramp when in 2WD, it's not helpful in the situation you guys tackled in the video. I see lots of comments to the effect that it doesn't have a "true locker". In truth, when in 4WD mode, it has no locker of any kind. I also see comments about the on-road biased on-road/off-road Michelins. Both true. But abra cadabra, you got where you were going and it actually looked kind of easy. Well done.
In the larger context, all modern (I use "modern" charitably in the Tundra's case) full-sized pickups are handicapped off road anyway - they have big breakover angles and substantial width. I'm reminded of that fact every time I lose a side stirrup to a boulder or listen to the nails-on-chalkboard sound of creosote branches removing long stripes of paint from my doors and fenders. If my main pursuit was off-roading, I would not pick a big truck to do it. When I off road it's almost always to get someplace hard to reach to do some other activity like archaeological surveys, take a backcountry hike, photograph something under just-the-right light, observational astronomy, etc. For all of these things big cargo capacity is a must. The Tundra has big second row cargo space and with a shell, big enough bed cargo space.
It has slowly crept up my list from the very bottom (on account of the usual gripes - no locker, horrendous fuel economy, last-century gear box, etc.). For my intended use it's better than my current truck - better ground clearance, fancier factory suspension with the Fox set-up, LED headlamps and fog lights, much better range-per-tank with it's 38 gallon fuel tank (my Ram has the stock 26 gallon, but even if I swapped in the optional 32 gallon, this Tundra would still have more real-world range as my Ram averages only about 14.5 mpg in mixed driving with a 5.7L Hemi and a 3.91 rear) and for those LONG highway slogs getting from home here in Napa Valley in California to the 4 Corners region to play, it has radar cruise-control for those 12-14 hour driving days.
I also think the price is actually pretty good when you compare apples to apples. Ignore the marketing that would have us think this Tundra is Toyota's answer to Ford's Raptor or the Ram Rebel. It's not. The Tundra TRD Pro at ~$52-54k has a feature mix you can't match with Ram or F-150 for anything close to that price. Try it. Price a Ram or F-150 (haven't tried it yet with a Silverado/Sierra) with the following: 4WD, crew-cab, SB, leather seating surfaces, LED headlamps and fog lights, fancy factory performance exhaust, V8, auto-LSD or alternative, sat-Nav, auto-cruise, stock skid plates and a big fuel tank.
A comparably equipped 2021 Ram 1500 Laramie Crew Cab short bed 4x4 lacks a fancy suspension option (unless you want to treat the $1800 air suspension as a Fox suspension alternative, which pushes the Laramie price even higher) and comes in around $58k in MSRP, about 4k more than the Tundra. F-150? Ha, ha, ha, ha. Overpriced compared to alternative in any apples-to-apples trim comparison - You're just over $60k MSRP. Toyotas tend to have better resale value than Fords or Rams (or Chevy/GMCs), so economically you pay less going in (apples-to-apples in feature terms) and get more of what you paid coming back out after 5-10 years.
No decision yet, but as I said, the Tundra has slowly climbed from "almost didn't consider it" to "I could see buying one to replace my current truck".
Dated yes...reliable hell yes!
That's why it's reliable, you can perfect things when you don't change them for 11 years.
If you can get 5 years out of the body because
#fastestrustingtrucks
That’s not true. This truck is no more reliable than the offerings from Ford or General Motors.
@@markofexcellence5209 You are wrong. Fact
@@markofexcellence5209 absolutely! U said it man
Man that looks big going up that trail. I have a tundra, so I’m used to it but it still looks big.
Outdated for what.
That truck is still badass.
If you want to run in snow you need to turn atrac and vsc completely off or the computer will limit the power output because it detects wheel slip. Someone that knows how to drive a Tundra would have 0 issues with this climb. The tires need to spin to clear snow out of the treads.
Roman, give Andre a Christmas bonus. He’s the best.
Personally I like the Tundras interior. But I am as old as the truck. Lol
As a yougin, I think that the interior is ugly as hell. The type of people that buy these trucks are older than the sun and the moon, so I’m sure that they won’t mind. They certainly won’t be going off road though... At least not intentionally... LOL
Even though the interior is outdated compared to other truck I actually really like the interior of the tundras
The interior of the 1794 edition is great. I test drove a 2019 TRD Pro with the leather interior and I really liked it.
Trd super pro you get three hood scoops!
Kennth Bennett haha, good one!
Yea, and all three are non functional!
People say it's outdated and old compared to the competition but it sells well and people love it. Not all truck drivers want electronics stuff and 10" screens in their cars.
How do you define "well", because being second to last isn't "well" by any real definition.
@@kingdaniel3519 for a 10 years old truck the sales are good. All other competitors are more advanced in term of technology and engines but Toyota still managed to sell good numbers of the Tundra. Probably the next Gen will arrive in 2020
Here around Austin you see them everywhere. Could be because they are made right down the road in San Antonio but you do see them everywhere.
One of Tommy's roller traction videos comparing the auto LSD to a Mechanical one would be interesting.
Andre's sound effects were hysterical.
Follow the lead of whoever decided to do that.
Andre and Nathan work really good together.
Even tho it has the auto lsd, it’s still a beast of a truck
I like that you showed the area where it hit on the break over. Love the tundra!
Those tires do much better than people expect. Mud and snow. Rock on! Great video!
Good review. Truck looks great and seems great. The exhaust sounds good but not great.
Wow! I can’t believe what just happened! Kablooey!!
Still driving my 2006 Tundra w/TRD Off Road pkg. Have driven the dog out of it with very few issues. No rust, 16 MPG from the baby V8 (4.7L), drives great, no rattles. Although I like the looks of the domestics, I’m too old to throw away $$$$$$ on bad resale. My old truck is still worth $9-10K and only paid $28k in 2007.
That extra scoop they tacked on looks like it came out of an AutoZone aisle
Honestly upsets me how people complain about an off-road vehicle not being luxurious enough
Daniel Rocha-Garcia off road yes, pricey yes. People just want a return on their monetary investment.
Noted. I’ll stop wanting what I want because it’s upsetting to Internet Stranger Daniel
@@jabroni6199 lol hey, fancy seeing another FRF friend here
T4nkc0mm4nd3r haha whats up bud. You know me just ruffling some feathers around here.
@@jabroni6199 glad I'm not the only one that wades through the cesspool that is TFL's YT comments
Cool video as always fellas!! 👍
Personally im a fan of limited slip, I live in Ontario, Canada where it can snow quite heavily and not having to stop the truck and hit a button to lock the rear end is actually really handy. That being said, theres no replacement for a "true locker" when off road in mud or rock.
People keep complaining that they haven’t changed the 5.7.. well Chevy used the 350 for almost 30 years in there trucks..if it ain’t broke dont fix It
Christopher Wilson I don’t understand why people have a problem with reliability. The 5.7 is a great engine.
Waited for "Kablooey" moment, but it never came. Watched a Toyota TRD PRO slowly drive up a hill instead.
Love that truck....dont care if the model is an older one.....truck models change too often.....too much tech to deal with and repair in the long run.....reason why i always look at base model... Now Toyota, id go middle or TRD. Titans i probably go middle.....anything without sunroof and chrome....and with a keyed ignition if possible. Thats a perfect truck.
Leatherkid01 totally agree
I always go plain Jane on my trucks. Pisses my wife off because she always gets fully loaded. Lol! Keeps her from using my truck.
This is one of the most beautiful, capable and reliable trucks on the planet. If I had an extra 50k it would certainly be my first choice. Titan PRO 4X would be my second choice.
Dennis Gaspar I agree with you sir I have one with the 1794 package and the TRD package and I will take this truck to my grave.
Love my Titan and love the 1794 edition of the Tundra.
That truck sound good!
I dont like it. Not enough hood scoops
@light house woosh
Zane Zinn wooooosh has 4 o’s my guy
Hahahaha!
1:45 ur editing team needs to wake up
I love my 17 Tundra TRD. Doesn’t have all the bells and whistles but it’s built like a tank, smooth on the highway and as reliable as a Camry. People complain about the Powertrain but when you look at the money other makers dump into newer power trains with similar power outputs and 1-2MPG difference, it’s not a cost Toyota wants to have to pass on to the customer. I had an 11’ Rock Warrior with 98K miles on it and zero issues either. If it ain’t broke...
😃👍 Love the sound if the TRD Dual Exhausts @7:35
Nathan has made love to women on three continents and has the receipts to prove it.
And here I thot it was from the battles scars on his member.
So what? I've made love to women on 4 continents, and have the shot records to prove it!
Did stage 3 at a 10mph steady roll in a tundra TRD PRO but tried it at idle with the outback then bashed the car when it didnt make it. Should’ve let the tundra idle up it at .5mph too (would’ve done the same thing as the outback).
oh look a butthurt subaru fanboi
Toyota doesn’t like it when they talk bad about the street tires lol.
Was gonna comment the same thing and would never own either one, come on TFL. There was snow but the frozen dirt wouldn't be as loose as summer either.
My favorite TFL guys, Nathan and Andre along with my favorite truck !
All other American branded half tons are currently 62K plus this baby MSRP 49K. I choose reliability over breakdowns anytime 💰💰💰
sonar008 mine was under 40 but I didn’t get the trd.
Tried and true is the Tundra. Love my truck.
Of course you do. Ignorance is bliss.
King Daniel What am I missing? I have had Ford,Dodge,GMC,Honda,Volkswagen,Nissan,Buick, Cadillac, Chevy and we now have two Toyota's. the Honda Civic had 401,000 miles when sold and the ridgeline had 155,000 when sold with no problem. I can't say this with the others because of multiple problems. I am saying this just from my experience with multiple cars from multiple companies and at this point my Honda's and Toyota's have gone way past what I was getting out of the others.
I've had a Dodge Ram, a few F150s, a couple of Toyotas and a Chevy Z71 over the years. My Camry went through 2 engines and needed a 3rd so I sold it back to the dealer under the lemon law with less than 25,000 miles. My Tacoma was the worst. Couldn't keep it running more than a few weeks at a time without something going wrong: tranny lost 4th gear, rear axle went out, transfer case burnt up, it was only 4 years old and there was rust showing on the rocker panels, not to mention the piddly shit that kept nickel and diming me to death. I live in the South, no where even near the rust belt! After it left me stranded on the side of the road for the umpteenth time, I had had enough. Went out the following week and bought an F150 and have been happier ever since. That was over 20 years ago. My F150s have had their issues over the years, but there's 1 important thing they've never done: Left me stuck on the side of the road. I've always been able to drive it home. Bully for you that you got your money's worth from them. For me though, you couldn't GIVE me another Toyota.
And so tundra for another year does not change. Wow
2020
If it ain't broke dont fix it
Tundra is a money printing press. Toyota makes 3 times as much per unit on Tundra as any of the big 3. Tundra sales are still solid. It's looking like 2020 for an update, probably moving to a twin turbo v6 and 8 speed like the Lexus vehicles have. 416hp 450 ft/lb. Pretty similar to the Ecoboost. That's my bet of what we'll see in the engine bay. Otherwise it'll probably be pretty similar. Nothing meaningful has changed in truck design otherwise. The new GM trucks visually look nearly identical.
@@MrJcjet Turbos are crap. Forcing power into a small engine will affect its reliability on the long term
@@MrJcjet Current Tundra engines are bulletproof b-cuz they got none of that turbo crap. That's how you get a Million certified miles
I'm glad Toyota trucks are still kind of simple. I'm not a bells and whistles kinda guy. So the fact that it's basic I like.
9:06 Kablooey, Ka blammo, Ka.....something . . . . . .LOLOLOL.
AWESOME
"Need a little more speed" funny Atrac and lsd don't work well over a certain rpm. Learn how the Toyotas atrac, vsc, and alsd work before making this video. A Tundra will lay 2 solid black lines if you know how it works
How? Does it snap tie ends like a Chevy?
No. But it will lay two solud black lines if you stop and hold the traction control for 4 seconds.
My only bitch about that is that the brakes will still automatically apply sometimes. The traction control could use to be turned off 100% instead of 90% in my opinion.
2:40 THAT FOX SHOCK IS AWFULLY CLOSE TO THE CV BOOT
Looked like the steering rack gaiter to me !
Firestarter Having watched it again you are indeed correct.
YOUR FACE IS CLOSE TO THE CV BOOT
I really don't like a lot of Toyota products but I have to admit this one looks gooooood!
Such a beautiful manly truck, my favourite in design, I just wish they spent a bit more on the interior and on improving the fuel efficiency, like with a newer transmission, a 8 speed or something
They need to come out with a "Toyota Ultimate Racing Development" truck
Tim Kelly Acronym taken. URD, Underdog Racing Development. They make Superchargers and other tuning devices for Toyotas. I’m guessing you’re trying to make a funny, right TimTim?
What the hell was Toyota thinking to have a hood scope on top of a hood scope? What were the designers smoking, crack? 🚬🚬
What rifles are under those hood scopes??
It is sooooo ugly!
Popa
Nah who is smoking crack is Chevy
TFL everyone loves you and your content, you really don't need clickbait to sell it! Please don't turn into that kind of channel.
Otlichnaya rabota Andre and Nathan. Keep the reviews coming. And, consider a best of/blooper compilation video
not just 1, but 2 fake hood scoops, Tis a sad day
Cough dodge does the exact same thing now you look like a typical misinformed TFL "professional" hahaha cough
Twas a sad day in 2010 as well when dodge did it first! Blame dodge
@@someguyprobably toyota has been putting fake hood scoops on since the 05 tacoma.
U can put a light bar into d fake hood scoops, i wud
No way would I spend over 40k for 10yr old tech. Just got back from Tahoe snow in my Goldilocks F150 gen II 3.5 eco. still have zero problems and she is still a beast at 7,000ft. And still avg.'d 21.5 mpg.
Lol on the way back down....
@@ontheotherside3 Nope. Round trip. 420 miles. Going up to 80mph on the freeways. Still have over 1/4 tank of gas. Actually, trip comp. says 21.3mpg but its pretty damn accurate. Truck has been so good.
@Jack Z www.jdpower.com/Cars/Ratings/dependability/2017/Large-Light-Duty-Pickup
Dads 2018 f250 has transmission problems at 20k miles lol.
@@guevaracr19 www.jdpower.com/Cars/Ratings/Dependability/2018/Large-Heavy-Duty-Pickup
Something's really got into Andre since he's been four wheeling with the Raptor and the mud pit with the ranger. Give me a dollar every time Nathan says hell yeah please I love it keep it up. I know what you're talking about with those Nissan looking flat Square buttons on the dashboard this truck has two really come out looking strong in the next refresh.
Man I love you guys and the channel super excited that the channel is getting good views
Love my Tundra!!
my 2014 f150 fx4 has rear locking diff
What can we say, women like Fords. Better than the methed out gay asshole that Jack Ass gets stuck in.
So does my 2011 FX4 and still works like new with 240k miles on it
@@HumpDaddy01 Uh huh
@@MrHeepspo uh huh.
Nathan is really killin the vibe in this video
4:40, Awesome roar of the engine fan. Don't hear them very much on newer vehicles.
My 14 Tundra SR5 Crewmax does the same thing. Just a VERY LIGHT TOUGH on the gas, she roar's like crazy. (Which I like)
Love the tundras u don’t need all the fancy terrain management modes but it should have an electronic locking rear diff and some 33’ tires🤙🏻
the more you clickbait, the more subscribers will slip through your fingers...
These are my two favorite dudes!!!!!!!!!
Great truck! But hard to hand over $51k when you can get a 2 year old v8 FX4 with 40miles, + more features (lariat) for about $35k
Good clip guys I do really like the TRDpro!
Good point however after 8 years the lariat will be worth half of the tundra
Didn’t those just have the worst safety rating of all trucks as of this month lol they turn to paper
Unless the 2019 ram did some major structural changes, it was always the worst, by a very significant margin. 2018 and earlier rams would chop your legs off in a sub 30mph crash! This was avknowledged even, by ram owners. 2017-2018 crash studies done, on half tons rate the ram dead last and unacceptable.
Again, things could, have changed with the 2019's.
Toyota is saving money by not having to update tooling or injection molds. Fox-Shocks can’t justify the price for what it severely lacks against its competitors.... you can see the $50k in Ford, Chevy & Ram.
Hood scoop, shocks & fog lights aren’t gonna magically make a $30k truck become a $50k truck. If it’s as reliable as everyone touts, might as well buy a 10yr old model & outfit it like the current TRD ... nobody would know the difference & you’d save close to $30k
The smartest comment on this entire video. Might as well buy an older one (because you aren't getting anything new) put some 35s and a level and get yourself a nice car play/Android auto deck. If you take away the reliability of this newer tundra, what does it really leave you with?
Solid v8
That's exactly correct. I've got a 2007 that I keep upgrading with deals I find. It's by far the best option. The engine and body are good forever
Interesting point, but not saving 30k. I considered the same until comparing the value of Platinums/SR5's around 2-4 years old. At this range, it makes little sense to buy used. I picked up a '18 demo Tundra for nearly 10k off the sticker. It pays to shop.
2009 SR5 CrewMax TRD package, Tow Package 0 accidents per Carfax , 30min outside St. Louis $18,995 via Cargurus website .... $32k savings off new... should be able to get Fox Shocks & new hood for less than $2k
Wait a couple years, which I know is tough and search long and hard. I got my 2015 TRD Pro finally and it's exactly what I wanted in my Tundra for only 20k @ 55k miles
I was told by the dealer president of my Canadian prairie Toyota dealer the reason they don't put a more aggressive tire from the factory on the Tundra was because the fuel mileage is a touchy subject and would be even worse if it had bigger rubber. The individuals father owns the dealer and he has worked at the dealer for over 25 years and even built a 2014 Tundra with air locker, lift kit, big lights, winches, running boards and custom front and rear bumpers and possibly more stuff. True or not Toyota position is that if you are truly a off roader you will adapt the truck or buy a Tacoma. My personal thoughts are that the Tundra is already a big truck and if you are in the bush or swamp with a new truck you are going to scuff and scratch the clear coat whcih is kinda stupid. Carry a trailer and build a custom offroad vehicle to have fun instead of a quad that you don't care if it gets scratched or rolled so that you can go mudding or bashing to your hearts content.
So wait... Toyota puts out a decent but kind of dated truck, charges a bunch of money for it, and its bad ass. But Nissan does the same thing with the Titan but price it lower and it's not bad ass?
My titan has a Cummins, a heavy duty aisin tranny, and a rear locker from the factory. And it was cheaper than a sr5 tundra with a couple options. Still, I wonder if i made the right choice...
@@ontheotherside3 I'd say you did.
@@ontheotherside3 Pretty sure you do not have the same aisin tranny that goes into a dodge 3500. Your aisin transmission is a lighter duty, totally different transmission for a smaller 5.0 cummins. I do like the cummins/aisin combo in the new Titan though, I wish other manufacturers would offer it, Actually, I wish dodge would offer it in the 1500, get rid of that pos ecodiesel.
Edit: I want to clarify, the Aisin A466ND in the Titan and the Aisin AS69RC in the dodge 3500 are similiar in the fact that they weigh approx the same (400lbs) and they share the same gear ratios. The AS69RC is said to be able to handle up to 950 ft-lbs of torque, while the A466NND is said to hold around 700 ft'lbs. On interesting fact is that, the rear axle on the Titan is from the NV3500 1 ton van.
@@SSMedic thanks for the edit and clarification on the model numbers. Looks like I was wrong about it being the same tranny, close, but not the same. Still, it is quite a bit overkill. The 5.0 cummins only puts out some 555 ish tq.
Titans are pieces of shit. I owned a 2010 and it had electrical issues, then I found out most of the parts come from China and are assembled here in Tennessee. Doesn’t have that Nissan Japanese reliability like the Frontier. No comparison to Toyotas. Titans are at the bottom of the food chain. Probably why they have to offer that crazy warranty to convince people to buy em
Typical of Toyota, they give you as little and as old as what they think they can get away with. Knowing that, Toyota, buyers will keep on coming back for more.
Grandpa would pick me up in his good old 1986 Toyota truck. He bought it new as a chassis cab, put a box on the rear end, and racked up over 300,000 miles on it. I was in the truck for 200 and 300, as was grandma. It’s really sad to see what Toyota is today. I can buy a boring, basic, reliable car from Toyota.... but I can buy a loaded car that’s reliable from other manufacturers nowadays! I would consider Toyota for a car, but not a truck.
I love my Tundra. I don't see any reason to go out and spend $20k more on a comparable domestic. Just read Motor Trend's domestic pickup test and all three @$70k. I can get a 1794 and a Camry for that money.
Yup, fools and their money. Let's spend 50k on a dinosaur.
@@SalvationsHERE Ford, Chevrolet, Dodge all use their consumer for testing. By throwing cute little gadgets in their vehicles. Then scratch their heads while wondering why they are shutting down making cars. Wish they do a little r+d before sending new junk out.
Kinda like people who still buy iPhones
I like the video! KaBlooey! My 2010 Tundra is still kicking butt in the Rockies! Just don't look at my skid plate...big KaBlooey's! LOL!
I ordered a Nissan Navara np300 here in France ,comes standard with (ELSD) didn't take diff lock option , clad to see the ELSD works also good !! I am getting standard factory crossconti's m+s Tyres ,this will bee my first pick up ,SUV driver now !
Only Toyota could get away with not updating a powertrain for 12 YEARS!!!! That truck came out in 2007 and is basically untouched since. The only place it shows up as an 07 is the horrible mpg when compared to the competition. Power and performance is still competitive. Just goes to show how good it was in 07.
ib516 Toyota did change the transfer case in 2014. New unit does engage into 4wd quicker , but not necessarily stronger.
One mod some might not be aware of on Tundras is swapping out the transfer cases with a Sequoia adds a center differential and Awd ability along with selectable 2wd and 4wd
And still is.
Nope. Ram is getting away with a dinosaur of an engine. A 16valve pushrod V8! In 2018!
Nissan frontier has the tundra beat. The frontier came out in 2004 for the 05 model year. That was nearly 15 YEARS ago. The final generation of the mini ranger was sold for 14 years.
I'll still buy it's the one of the most American made trucks out, js
Adan Caborca where do you think fords ceos spend there money? They go on trips to elsewhere, they buy stuff made in China, besides Since the tundra plant is in Texas there are more Americans making more money. If you buy a car just cause it was engineered in the us and they get cheap labor from elsewhere then who’s really giving away money? Because those Mexican workers won’t come to spend a dime in the USA.
@@thoth111 You sound like a socialist.
Hard4Jesus no he sounds like a nationalist. He sounds like a American, god bless him for supporting American working man.
@@jeffschneider2356 I got a question for you. If technology was developed that fully automated semi trucks, meaning no more human truck drivers needed. And a law was passes to ban that technology in the USA because it would cause drivers nationwide to lose their jobs. Would you support such a law?
@@Lexman00 in a sense we do its called the railroad.
When I bought my TRDPRO and I added bed protection led in bed and nitto grabbers no road noise and great traction
Tundra needs a real update and I’d probably buy one.
Small overlap at around 40mph will leave you in a wheelchair....
Turdra lovers are kind of like Republicans, if you tell them the truth they pretend they can't hear you.
2:43 the shock reservoir is touching the CV Boot.
But but muh reliability!
Good eye.
Good eye. Although it's the rack and pinion boot. Didn't see that the first time around
look again eggs. It's the CV boot. the rack boot is also close, but the CV boot definitely appears to be touching the bottom of the shock.reservoir.
@@johng4527 Shit! Correct. Looks like it's touching both.
Nathan and Andre cracking me up
I’m upstate ny the TRDs are $45000 so I’m not going to complain lol you pay more for a ford, Ram or GM and you get all the recalls that come with lol Toyota does need to get rid of those tires though. They should atleast get some Felken Wild peak Atw3s. They are faily cheap tire. They get amazing traction in mud snow and wet roads with very little road noise.
I just dont like were the starter is 💁♂️🤷♂️🤦♂️
cecil otto this is no shit! High dollar to have it replaced!
Truth
NO LOCKER = NO MOBGMA. I love Toyota's but for the price...cmon man
mobgma but the resale is amazing
I don't know if Toyota lists on their spec sheet a "big ass" engine package. They should though.
Definitely
Aside from a few small touches, you can tell this truck came out in 2007, both inside and out.
Amazing how a an 11 yo truck still looks brand new eh.
Not only are those fake hood vents completely unnecessary, but they also obstruct your vision forward a bit by being taller than the bonnet. Ugly and useless. You can tell it's a TRD Pro from the wheels, blacked out door handles and blacked out grille with body-colored surrounds. There's no need for ugly body panels Toyota.
Wait a second... The Pro STILL doesn’t have a leather-wrapped steering wheel?! What a friggin’ joke!
Yep, that is why you buy that truck
That’s how Toyota rolls $51,000 truck and they can’t put a leather wrapped steering wheel Come on Toyota
Shoot the cow of your choice and wrap your own steering wheel.
Toyota maximizing profit. Suckers be buyn
And your worried about a leather wrapped steering wheel....
Still no electronic locker on the rear diff!!! It's had to understand Toyota's resistance to this common feature which is on all it's competitors off road versions. ATRAC works well with a locked differential on the Tacoma. It can't be an oversight or a engineering problem. On a truck that expensive, it should at least be an option.
@@captainstabbin9338 I've heard that too. And it's a load of hooey imo.
@@captainstabbin9338 I knew you were just noting Toyota's position. They are very good at selling you the least for the most. Well run company if all you look at is profitability.
Thank you
Japanese Brand,Japanese high end Technology,The Highest Re-Sale value, the Best Truck out there and Made 100%in America by American Ppl. 🤙🤙🤙🤙🤙🤙🤙🤙🤙
Japanese 10 year old technology, not the best truck by any real or measurable means and only about 65% made in the US(which is less than the F150 by a significant margin). So, riddle me this, Russian bot:If Toyoters are so damned good, why do you fucktwits drone on and on about resell?
Still the best looking truck out there. Just my opinion.
Good luck trying to buy the new 2020 Toyota Tundra TRD CrewMax Pro starting at around $53,000. Since this truck is new, Toyota marks up the sticker price by about $10,000 more.
Did you run out of gas going up the hill? Thankfully the starter doesn't go out often. You have to tear off the top side of the engine to get to it. Not a cheap fix.
Patrick London I experienced this first hand! Complete bullshit!