Leading The Charge with Toddington Harper of GRIDSERVE | The Fully Charged Podcast

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  • čas přidán 11. 09. 2024
  • EV charging in the UK has come a long way since Robert’s first experiences and in today’s podcast he speaks with Toddington Harper, CEO of Gridserve in their brand new electric forecourt at London Gatwick Airport. This dedicated charging facility is a ‘World First’ at an International Airport.
    The conversation dives straight into how Gridserve will support the mass transition to electric vehicles, and with over 180 charging locations in the UK within the Gridserve Electric Highway, these Gridserve Electric Forecourts are at the pinnacle of charging experiences.
    As a leading voice in the sector, Toddington shares his insights from being at the latest COP summit and reflects on the changes we all need, and can make so that we move the needle on climate change.
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Komentáře • 315

  • @ashc9437
    @ashc9437 Před 7 měsíci +85

    I’m 65 and just bought my first EV, a second hand Tesla, Zappi home charger and Octopus energy at 7.5p a kilowatt. Can’t recommend it more, just brilliant.

    • @M-TRON
      @M-TRON Před 7 měsíci +3

      👍 countless happy miles and adventures to come!

    • @garyrooksby
      @garyrooksby Před 7 měsíci +6

      Thanks on behalf of our environment! Enjoy your Tesla!

    • @ziggarillo
      @ziggarillo Před 7 měsíci +2

      Yes, Gridserves 79p kwh is ridiculous .

    • @charleswillcock3235
      @charleswillcock3235 Před 7 měsíci +1

      @@ziggarillo that looks like licenced robbery.

    • @ziggarillo
      @ziggarillo Před 7 měsíci

      @@charleswillcock3235 it really is.

  • @robfee2065
    @robfee2065 Před 7 měsíci +30

    Brilliant podcast, being with 3 months of 80yrs old I managed to listen!!!! Realising I had to do something for the Grandchildren's future we have been fortunate enough to be able to own a 6yr old VW eUP and a Kia eNiro, a home charger (Zappi), a home battery (Powervault) and for 8mths a Heat Pump its all been a wonderful experience, except for our first electric trip to Pembrokeshire in 2020 when charging in Pembrokeshire left a lot us a little afraid of being stranded, we coped so all round its been a brilliant electrification experience. We home charge most of the time, Gridserve on Holidays, we used what was then, a very new Cornwal Gridserve in 2023 and it worked brilliantly. So well done Toddington and team and well done Robert and team, from humble beginnings of 2 of us at Farnborough FC 2022 to 12 family tickets for Everyrthing Electric at Excel London 2024. Keep up the good work.

    • @ndudman8
      @ndudman8 Před 7 měsíci

      blar blar blar climite change, net zero... what nonsense... Please refute "Paul Bergess" and others who clearly show evidence to refute this stupid drive to net zero. I have panels 16kwp 30kwh battery and ev... so I'm not against the tech... put the push based on net zero is just stupid based on real science... and your show still I havn't found any actual science, just models, and tweeked data which have been refuted.

    • @ndudman8
      @ndudman8 Před 7 měsíci

      Please refute "Paul Bergess" and others who clearly show evidence to refute this stupid drive to net zero. I have panels 16kwp 30kwh battery and ev... so I'm not against the tech... put the push based on net zero is just stupid based on real science... and your show still I havn't found any actual science, just models, and tweeked data which have been refuted.

    • @TheHoveHeretic
      @TheHoveHeretic Před 7 měsíci

      ​@@ndudman8yeah .... lets not bother with any actual evidence.

    • @ndudman8
      @ndudman8 Před 7 měsíci

      yep thats how the climit net zero fanatics behave... check out Paul Burgess and other non mainstream people with actual evidence. @@TheHoveHeretic

  • @alaneasthope2357
    @alaneasthope2357 Před 7 měsíci +30

    What a guy! I love his enthusiasm, commitment, and obvious business sense. If only our politicians were the same. A great interview which really should be on TV for non EV drivers to see.,

    • @genestatler2514
      @genestatler2514 Před 7 měsíci

      I absolutely agree with you!! This is one of the best Fully Charged videos I've seen!!

    • @davidhall7744
      @davidhall7744 Před 6 měsíci

      Agreed

  • @solentbum
    @solentbum Před 7 měsíci +25

    Before I went EV , back in 2013, I was buying over £140 of diesel fuel a month, since then I have bought around £10 per year for my lawnmower. Thats nearly £17000 that has not been spent at my local petrol station.

    • @davelenderson
      @davelenderson Před 7 měsíci +5

      I used to spend about £500 per month on petrol and I've had my ev for just a year and taken £6k petrol sales away, oh and I live in Braintree so I lived at gridserve for a while before I got my home charge point installed

    • @simonpannett8810
      @simonpannett8810 Před 7 měsíci

      I think your maths is out by a nought??

    • @davelenderson
      @davelenderson Před 7 měsíci +1

      No it's not but it is about 15.5k bot 17k

    • @ziggarillo
      @ziggarillo Před 7 měsíci

      ​@davelenderson not you, the original post made 12 x £140 = £17,000, instead of £1,680.

    • @solentbum
      @solentbum Před 7 měsíci +4

      @@ziggarillo over ten years comes to 16800. Rounded up to £17000, , as I put it. Over £140 per month. The calculation ignores the price rise of both diesel and electricity over time, but hopefully shows how the petrol station lost out.
      Also I now have an electric lawnmower that runs on sunlight.

  • @Jaw0lf
    @Jaw0lf Před 7 měsíci +10

    Toddington is an amazing person, he fully understands what we need and looks well beyond the grid issues to present a good and useable option. The government really needs to listen to people like him, looking at the future, not the past.
    It is moving what can be done at home to a massive scale and it shows solar and battery technology work well together. Also that he has been driving an EV for 10 years, he understands what we want.
    Thank you for visiting and giving him chance to speak.

  • @alanshaw5286
    @alanshaw5286 Před 7 měsíci +2

    I will be in the UK, visiting from Western Canada, in May so I will defiantly visit Toddington Gridserve, don't tell the wife LOL. I have a 2023 Niro EV that I bought last June. I have driven it in drifting snow at -34'C with no problem and taken a 1100 km road trip in one day with no problem. Range anxiety is all in the head.

  • @davefroman4700
    @davefroman4700 Před 7 měsíci +30

    I think this guy knows the business better than anyone else in it. Investing in their own generation is a one way ticket to high profit margins. The equipment will pay for itself in less than 4 years. And then its nothing but gravy.... You never get an invoice from the sun or a battery every month. And they can sell their excess to the grid as well.

    • @judebrown4103
      @judebrown4103 Před 7 měsíci +9

      I do hope the customer gets a little discount on price per kW by that stage too.

    • @gazza595
      @gazza595 Před 7 měsíci

      @@judebrown4103 Couldn't agree more but hopefully as more companies up their game on this greater competition will put pressure on the prices. As good as Grid Serve are they really need good competition.

    • @shonunezekiel
      @shonunezekiel Před 7 měsíci

      @@judebrown4103 if the profits are spent on rolling out more and more electric forecourts faster and faster then I will put up with the prices, but if it is spent on colombian marching powder, private jets, and ladies of the night, then I will not be so happy 😉 ... I have never met Toddington, but I suspect his goals are more for the former than the latter.

  • @AlanWilliams-su4bs
    @AlanWilliams-su4bs Před 7 měsíci +8

    A brilliant Podcast. Wishing every success to Gridserve and staff.

  • @gavintheurquhart
    @gavintheurquhart Před 7 měsíci +9

    So grateful for Gridserve and their approach. Used both Norwich and Braintree. FANTASTIC! And many other Gridserve chargers too.

  • @waynethefridgemanosborne8984
    @waynethefridgemanosborne8984 Před 7 měsíci +7

    Was in the UK last August and used mainly GRIDSERVE charging on our road trip Portsmouth, Birmingham, Liverpool and back, only problem we had was when returning the car to Hertz at Heathrow. But very pleased with them all . Will check it out at Gatwick when I'm back in the UK.
    GRIDSERVE HEATHROW has got a nice ring to it. Keep smiling everyone and see you all in Sydney.

  • @kassistwisted
    @kassistwisted Před 7 měsíci +15

    I often think that the regular people who oppose clean energy have got to be people who have never lived near a coal-fired or petroleum plant. I grew up in the Anthracite area of Pennsylvania in the US and I spent most of my working life in New Jersey. When I moved away from home, I was shocked that people's houses weren't blackened with coal dust all the time. I remember that people would always vocally protest the smell every time we drove past the oil refinery in Elizabeth New Jersey because of the overwelming smell. People who protest clean energy simply cannot be having these experiences because, if you have, you will be thrilled to bursting to hear that those monstrosities are closing down and you don't have to deal with the stick and the dirt of them any longer. Regardless of climate change or the energy transition, it will just be nice not to have places on your commute or near your home that are disgusting!

    • @robinhood4640
      @robinhood4640 Před 7 měsíci +1

      A big part of the problem is that although there are hundreds, and even thousands, of researchers explaining the role air pollution has in not far off every disease, nobody's doctor is telling them that air pollution is making their problem, or their children's problem worse.
      Most people don't want to acknowledge that there are far too many particles invisible to the naked eye in the air, because they can't see them.
      Even the people who are suffering from the poor air quality are happy to protest clean energy.

    • @brianharries
      @brianharries Před 7 měsíci +1

      I never understood why most roof lofts /attics in my home town were blackened and therefore not fit for storage. It was only explained in later years by a retired steam train driver /engineer that the pollution was from the proliferation of coal fired steam trains that was the main employment opportunity for those living in Crewe UK. How many would have died prematurely as a result of such air pollution? Of course this can be exponentially applied to every location that burnt fossil fuels…….

  • @brummiesalteno-81
    @brummiesalteno-81 Před 7 měsíci +11

    On a more serious note, a great episode and love Toddinton's passion and enthusiasm as well as his ambition.

  • @user-ps2zr7jp6p
    @user-ps2zr7jp6p Před 7 měsíci +5

    The thing that I love about GridServe Braintree (not the price, by the way) is how you drive in and drive out, just like a fuel station, no need to reverse in or out and no need to worry about the location of your charging port and an excellent queuing system which means it's easy to see the vacant chargers.

  • @lyledal
    @lyledal Před 7 měsíci +11

    It'd be awesome if Gridserve came to the United States. One day, perhaps!

    • @TheHoveHeretic
      @TheHoveHeretic Před 7 měsíci

      They need to get as far as my town first !! 😁

  • @M-TRON
    @M-TRON Před 7 měsíci +3

    Electric Forecourt® - off the scale amazing! Todd is our hero!

  • @ozsimflyer
    @ozsimflyer Před 7 měsíci +11

    Sadly for us EV owners here in Western Australia we are probably where you were in 2014. Given UK will fit into Western Australia appropriately 10 times we have a grand total of 5 Tesla Supercharger locations. Our biggest installation of DCfast chargers has 6 outlets. We have a long way to go to experience something as amazing as the Gridserve forecourt. We can but dream. Thanks for sharing.

    • @theunknownunknowns5168
      @theunknownunknowns5168 Před 7 měsíci +4

      I feel like the "outback" should be the easiest to put chargers in, ie. Small solar roof small battery reserve and a couple of chargers. Small businesses in the outback could manage something like that and earn a bit of income. Caveat. In my mind all WA is outback.

    • @tomcockcroft9394
      @tomcockcroft9394 Před 7 měsíci +5

      Aus is at 7% ev market share Uk at 16% so only a couple of years behind. I’m sure aus will overtake Uk in the next few years as you have so much solar.

    • @rickicoughlan8299
      @rickicoughlan8299 Před 7 měsíci +4

      @@tomcockcroft9394 Because of the lack of charging infrastructure many of us have gone down the hybrid road, which is where I went with a Toyota Yaris Cross AWD hybrid (I don't have off street parking and my daily round trip drive to work is 100k/62 miles). What we are seeing in terms of EV uptake is those who own homes and have off street parking and therefore access to charging. We are simply not going to be able to realise our full potential until we get a government who wants to be serious about rolling out the infrastructure and perhaps offering the right environment for private operators to also jump into this space.

    • @kadmow
      @kadmow Před 7 měsíci

      @@theunknownunknowns5168 - how many solar panels for how much traffic (in order to be profitable).... To "fast charge" 3 "full featured EVs per day, 150-250kWh of storage and 25kW of solar - minimum 50 solar panels - to recharge the buffer batteries in a presumed - worst - "9 hour day", (to allow at least 2 of the vehicles to fast-charge any time day or night) - ensure wifi hotspot is collocated - with permanent connectivity for all the billing and vehicle assistance apps to access... (Alibaba has offerings ?? Warranties / quality)
      I would love this to be available at every rest stop across the breadth of WA...
      (Show us the money in this?? - ie. destination short film cinema/museum with cafe for 3 carloads a day...)
      In Perth, many have solar on rooftops - it alleviates their summer cooling energy - which may well be the largest "green initiative" - greater than converting all commuter vehicles to EV - there may be surplus to trickle charge a GeeWhizz..

    • @tomcockcroft9394
      @tomcockcroft9394 Před 7 měsíci

      @@rickicoughlan8299 yup hopefully public charging will increase a lot in the next couple of years and landlord install points for apartments

  • @devonbikefilms
    @devonbikefilms Před 7 měsíci +3

    What a pleasure to hear a well presented, strong, positive argument for the direction in which we’re headed based on a real understanding of the problem we’re facing coupled with a real understanding of the solutions which are available to us.

  • @rustybkts
    @rustybkts Před 7 měsíci +4

    I have used the Braintree Electric Forecourt many times as it is perfectly positioned for a drive I do regularly. Super clean, great coffee, M&S food, very modern toilets, small gym and picnic tables for the sunny day and no petrol fumes. Whats not to like!

  • @John-FourteenSix
    @John-FourteenSix Před 7 měsíci +3

    Absolutely EXCELLENT!

  • @shonunezekiel
    @shonunezekiel Před 7 měsíci

    Thank you for explaining the UK's Zero Emission Vehicle mandate so clearly!

  • @stephengowler5360
    @stephengowler5360 Před 7 měsíci +1

    Always good to listen to someone who is passionate about their work and who know their subject. Such a rarity.

  • @CymruDad
    @CymruDad Před 7 měsíci

    We live just 10 miles away from Gatwick GridServe, looking forward to trying it out. My wife has used it with her work EV van and is very impressed!

  • @Pottery4Life
    @Pottery4Life Před 7 měsíci +8

    Great episode. Thanks, Robert.

  • @Muppetkeeper
    @Muppetkeeper Před 7 měsíci +1

    One think I noticed here was the acoustic panelling behing Toddington, nice touch in a noisy cafe.

  • @robertmunro4511
    @robertmunro4511 Před 7 měsíci +1

    Great day Robert and crew! Thank you for another amazing view of a more positive future! We can only hope that these ideas catch on in Canada and other parts of the world. On that note just wanted to add the term Forecourt was mentioned numerous times throughout the video, for those that don’t know ( I had to look it up myself) a forecourt is “a courtyard in from of a building” very much like a current, yet starting to disappear fuel station. Thanks again for the great video!

  • @judebrown4103
    @judebrown4103 Před 7 měsíci +5

    Didnt know there was a Gridserve in Cornwall. Rather brilliant as i just suggested someone down there have a look into ev's.👍
    Always cheers me up listening to Toddington. Thanks for working hard on accessibility👍☺️
    Edit: just been on ZapMap, couldnt find Newquay so maybe its not up and running yet. Did find Cornwall Services though, lots of complaints about a lack of power in that one. Might want looking at, there's a definite lack of confidence in Gridserve down there which is a shame. I do get the feeling that a lot of it is people dont understand that its their cars that limit the charging speed. I wonder if there should be big notices to explain that, maybe with a list of vehicles that charge at less than 50kWh. Otherwise theres a heck of a lot of fud gets spread about very quickly and unfairly. If this battery back up is now online i wonder if theres some way to alert ZapMap to that fact so they can make that clear on their info?
    Speaking of Cornwall have you future proofed for more ev's with caravans?

    • @alanhat5252
      @alanhat5252 Před 7 měsíci +1

      Caravans is going to be a big issue, I regularly go to Thurrock Services where there's a row of Gridserve chargers facing a row of Tesla chargers & there is absolutely no way you would get in there & back out again with a caravan, I've seen people struggle with just a car!

    • @judebrown4103
      @judebrown4103 Před 7 měsíci

      ​@@alanhat5252very odd, my email is telling me you've replied to my other comment. You mention 1997-2010 plans that didn't materialise. Clicked to reply to you here from the email but I can't find either comment on here, not to sound paranoid and cryptic , given the subject and my remarks about our great and maybe not so good that strikes me as odd. Can you see them?

  • @donaldkent513
    @donaldkent513 Před 7 měsíci +2

    Please come to US. Bring one of these to Staten Island NY

  • @richardblakey3345
    @richardblakey3345 Před 7 měsíci +1

    We were there a week ago with the Sussex EV group. It is an amazing place. Please can Gridserve get one of these somewhere around Exeter or Taunton to make journeys to the West Country less painful.

    • @stuartj5520
      @stuartj5520 Před 7 měsíci

      They are planning an Electric Forecourt in Plymouth on the A386 between Home Park and the A38

  • @conradknightsocksknight1590
    @conradknightsocksknight1590 Před 7 měsíci +1

    Thanks Toddington for your passion and foresight getting us to a cleaner future ❤

  • @garyrooksby
    @garyrooksby Před 7 měsíci +1

    Thanks for your knowledge and enthusiasm. Thanks for giving us hope!

  • @PaulMcCormack1968
    @PaulMcCormack1968 Před 7 měsíci

    I have been to Braintree and it's awesome. And this weekend I have had flawless charging at the new Gridserve motorway chargers at Hilton Park, Watford Gap and Sandbach - Go Gridserve - Thank you Toddington!

  • @andrewpalmer999
    @andrewpalmer999 Před 7 měsíci

    Fantastic, my wife and I have both been driving EVs for around 3 years and love them. We've used the Braintree and Norwich Electric Forecourts several times and look forward to using the Gatwick one soon. Well done Gridserve.
    Nowadays range anxiety is something that only affects ICE drivers who are nervous to make the switch.
    I see the EV haters are starting to make their inane comments on here now, signs of desperation as they are rapidly being proved wrong.

  • @fomalhaut9
    @fomalhaut9 Před 7 měsíci +1

    Stellar episode. That bloke is a scholar and a gent

  • @rngalston
    @rngalston Před 7 měsíci +3

    I applaud his efforts

  • @richardfoster2021
    @richardfoster2021 Před 7 měsíci +1

    Dam Good Show !!! Will pop down to see this EV garage Gridserve are going the right way in EV station

  • @theunknownunknowns5168
    @theunknownunknowns5168 Před 7 měsíci +53

    Robert I know you don't acknowledge New Zealand actually exists, but it would be cool if you did a rant against our new fascist, anti electric vehicles, pro fossil fuels, climate denying government..

    • @paulscountrygarage9180
      @paulscountrygarage9180 Před 7 měsíci

      Some one sent Scott Morrison over to our NZ cousins? If so, you are welcome to the useless bugger. P.S. Don’t have any major natural disasters as he is even worse with them.

    • @Stan-at-KangarooIslandTV
      @Stan-at-KangarooIslandTV Před 7 měsíci +2

      Oh no! That sucks bro

    • @salibaba
      @salibaba Před 7 měsíci +4

      Top potato man Gavin Shoebridge is probably already doing such.

    • @theunknownunknowns5168
      @theunknownunknowns5168 Před 7 měsíci +2

      Yeah. Aotearoa has become fascist. ​@@Stan-at-KangarooIslandTV

    • @theunknownunknowns5168
      @theunknownunknowns5168 Před 7 měsíci +1

      ​@@salibabaGavin can't he works for a company. A very cool company but they can't attack the government.

  • @garyjones101
    @garyjones101 Před 6 měsíci

    Excellent! Informative and I love seeing these new types of places coming to market to service the EV traveler.

  • @davidhall7744
    @davidhall7744 Před 6 měsíci

    I dont have an EV yet, but the whole Gridserve thing fascinates me. If I lived near one (hint hint Toddington - I live in Scotland) i’d defo visit one, even for a coffee and a look around it 😉👍

  • @matthewbaynham6286
    @matthewbaynham6286 Před 7 měsíci +3

    But most importantly the toilets are really good.

  • @JustfishNascar
    @JustfishNascar Před 7 měsíci

    We need GridServe in the States. Nice to see all these options popping up in the UK, now we need someone to partner with them in the States than can use what they have learned to start making these a reality here.

  • @emmajones2586
    @emmajones2586 Před 7 měsíci

    Please do a tour of the electric forecourt’s for those of us not living in the UK, would be interesting to see their vision

  • @chrisjohn8081
    @chrisjohn8081 Před 7 měsíci +3

    Fantastic information again “awesome” keep up the amazing work 😊

  • @stuartgifford8672
    @stuartgifford8672 Před 7 měsíci +4

    Gridserve are bloody expensive, but there electric forecourts are amazing.

    • @deansh8506
      @deansh8506 Před 7 měsíci +1

      You can see the amount of investment this company is putting in to build a meaningful infrastructure.
      I don't see a problem of paying approximately 2.5x the price of the electricity of a standard rate at home.

    • @user-ps2zr7jp6p
      @user-ps2zr7jp6p Před 7 měsíci +3

      Yer, I love their "forecourts" but it's such a shame that they upped their prices to 79p/KWhr, they are now too expensive. I didn't mind to much 69p with their reinvestment campaign, but they are now 10 x the price of nighttime home charging and between 1.5 and 2 x open Tesla charger prices. I'm hoping that in the next 12 to 24 months competition will pull the prices down again, because their philosophy is sound, just not their prices

    • @buttonmonkey6845
      @buttonmonkey6845 Před 7 měsíci +1

      Don’t forget they hobbled a bit by the fact they have to pay 20% VAT on their electricity as they are commercial users.
      😊

    • @deansh8506
      @deansh8506 Před 7 měsíci

      @@buttonmonkey6845 definitely. The government needs to reduce this to 5% ASAP.

    • @rogerphelps9939
      @rogerphelps9939 Před 7 měsíci

      They are already ripping you off for your standard home rate. when you compare the price that renewables providers are paid with what you pay somebody is getting vert rich.@@deansh8506

  • @Pottery4Life
    @Pottery4Life Před 7 měsíci +5

    Mr. Harper needs to incorporate in the US and get busy. I really like this fancy forecourt electric micromall thing he's got going.

    • @judebrown4103
      @judebrown4103 Před 7 měsíci +5

      Find your own entrepreneur, he's ours!! 😄😂👏👍🇬🇧💕

    • @Pottery4Life
      @Pottery4Life Před 7 měsíci +3

      @@judebrown4103 Darn it! lol

    • @Muppetkeeper
      @Muppetkeeper Před 7 měsíci

      He has enough problems dealing with the UK anti-EV idiots, and at least our idiots don't have guns.

    • @MrAdopado
      @MrAdopado Před 7 měsíci

      ha ha ... I think Australia would like him too from the posts on here!

  • @theunknownunknowns5168
    @theunknownunknowns5168 Před 7 měsíci +6

    For those in Aotearoa and have watched this to the end, the Genesis Energy ceo Malcolm Johns in a rnz interview on the 4th of December 2023, said Genesis needs more people to buy electric cars. He sees no problem with electricity supply and is complying with Aotearoa's laws of net zero by 2050.

    • @Robert-cu9bm
      @Robert-cu9bm Před 7 měsíci

      You mean those in New Zealand

    • @alanhat5252
      @alanhat5252 Před 7 měsíci

      ​@@Robert-cu9bmyou might be interested to look up what the word "Aotearoa" means.

  • @FarnhamTV
    @FarnhamTV Před 7 měsíci +1

    I love what GS is doing. Braintree is very good even if they don't have after hours toilets. Cut to Grandma squatting behind the Tesla chargers at 11pm.
    Todd, please can you sort out the payment system. Especially at Rugby. My bank froze my account when I tapped my card 3 times because the card readers weren't allowing charge on 3 chargers. Ended up on Instavolt at Derby instead. We're avoiding Gridserve until there are assurances that they won't crash our bank accounts.

  • @TeaBreak.
    @TeaBreak. Před 7 měsíci +1

    Cost of public charging will delay ev takeup. It's the equivalent of £2-£2.50 a litre. It needs to be 50p/kWh or less. France charge about 40p/kWh or £1.20/litre.

  • @heymike7037
    @heymike7037 Před 7 měsíci

    I wish Gridserve would expand to Canada. We really need those electric forecourts here!

  • @tomcockcroft9394
    @tomcockcroft9394 Před 7 měsíci +6

    Plug and charge is pretty irrelevant if you have to have an app for 50 different charging companies. If charging operators want to compete with the Tesla system all chargers just need to be linked to the car. And the car should have your bank card registered for a seamless process

    • @rogerphelps9939
      @rogerphelps9939 Před 7 měsíci

      Wrong. Car linking means that you have to register and have an account with each of these providers. That is ridiculous and anticompetitive. The future is contactless. Contactless is rapidly becoming the defacto method of making just about all small payments including for petrol. No accounts and no apps are needed. Furthermore any supplier can set without the permission of any other suppliers , least of all Tesla, and this leads to price competition. NACS in a majority position in the UK and Europe would be illegal restraint of trade. That is why new chargers in the UK and in Europe have been mandated to be CCS and offer contactless payment.

    • @narrowboatlongpod4176
      @narrowboatlongpod4176 Před 7 měsíci +1

      Provided they all accept contactless payment (and the law says that they must) then it's no deal breaker in the transition from ICE vehicles. Having said that, I think that it should happen as it makes life so much easier.

  • @kevmeister1702
    @kevmeister1702 Před 7 měsíci +1

    So many questions weren’t covered. What is the tie in with Gatwick. Is there a shuttle to the airport, is there a long stay car park or is the site merely close to Lgw so I can charge on my way from / to it.
    Why do gridcharge charge 79p per kw why is it that high. Especially this time of year when it’s almost impossible to get a fast charge. Do I still pay 79p if I only chv at 50kw.? What are they doing to bring those costs down. Are there solar panels and batteries at their sites. We didn’t even get a tour.

    • @narrowboatlongpod4176
      @narrowboatlongpod4176 Před 7 měsíci

      Tours don't work well on podcasts. There are lots of CZcams videos with tours but most are just the exterior. The site is VERY close to the airport.

  • @andyemmpee3037
    @andyemmpee3037 Před 7 měsíci

    Both Toddington and Robert inspire enthusiasm for the ev and climate change causes. So easy to be a nay sayer on this subject but so good to see more and more chargers going in.

  • @mikemellor759
    @mikemellor759 Před 7 měsíci

    Great to hear about the latest from Gridserve - thanks 👏👏

  • @watcher24601
    @watcher24601 Před 7 měsíci +1

    Next time do the fan boy interview at Gloucester South services. Would be nice to see Robert standing in the furthest point of the car park on one of two chargers trying to say how wonderful the investment is.

  • @plasticcreations7836
    @plasticcreations7836 Před 7 měsíci

    More of these electric forecourts outside of London please!

  • @user-wq9lb6vp2h
    @user-wq9lb6vp2h Před 7 měsíci +2

    I applaud this effort to improve the electrification of transport which is so necessary. The future, though surely, is not the continuation of mass ownership of cars but the increasing use of mass transport. These charging stations could be better developed as car parks and laying on electric buses to the airport. This is no criticism of Gridserve who are operating in an environment where there is no vision or strategy for the future of transport from our government.

    • @alanhat5252
      @alanhat5252 Před 7 měsíci

      you're describing Green Party strategy so I presume you'll be voting for them at the Election?

    • @user-wq9lb6vp2h
      @user-wq9lb6vp2h Před 7 měsíci +1

      I’d vote for any party that had a plan that recognised the urgency of the crises we have in climate, environment, inequality, economics and democracy.

    • @narrowboatlongpod4176
      @narrowboatlongpod4176 Před 7 měsíci

      @@alanhat5252 I think that it's more of a comment on the current party in government who are heavily funded by opaque "think tanks" that operate out of 55 Tufton Street. Cameron did the country no favours by not wanting to spend money on "green crap". Sunak has also jumped on the band wagon as a result of the Uxbridge by-election and pushed back our commitment to reducing fossil fuel usage, even though ULEZ is not strictly about low carbon but about clean air.

    • @MrAdopado
      @MrAdopado Před 7 měsíci +1

      Given that the number of younger people who have a driving license in the UK has plummeted this may finally be starting change. The insurance industry is charging so much nowadays that people can't afford to run a car no matter what the purchase price was.

  • @octarinehk
    @octarinehk Před 7 měsíci

    In my past year of EV driving I’ve really seen Gridserve step up on the motorway network and really built out the network to the point where I don’t have any range anxiety any longer.

  • @PaulMJohnson
    @PaulMJohnson Před 7 měsíci

    An interesting video that lead to me stopping at the “Electric Forecourt” yesterday.
    It’s nice enough, but fundamentally is a small service station with chargers at all parking bays.
    What bothers me is I paid 10 times what I pay at home for electricity. The first time I took my EV on a long journey yesterday, from Newcastle to Surrey, it cost me significantly more in fuel than my diesel Land Rover would have.
    That’s not the path to EV acceptance. I’m lucky in that almost all my charging is at home, but people who will have to charge away from home shouldn’t be ripped off like this.

  • @FrankieLimes
    @FrankieLimes Před 7 měsíci

    Good podcast. Toddington has a good vision of the future. The only issue not covered and not questioned was Gridserve kWh cost!!!
    What was the motivation to increase cost per kWh from 69p to 79p?

  • @suchdevelopments
    @suchdevelopments Před 7 měsíci +5

    🥰😄Good day from Lismore, NSW. I will try to go to Sydney and go to Everything Electric on 9th Feb. I will go around Australia at the end of Sept 2024, two CYBERTRUCK unless the CYBERTRUCK are not shipped here.
    I will start producing videos by the end of April 2024.

    • @guringai
      @guringai Před 7 měsíci

      See you there ;)

    • @suchdevelopments
      @suchdevelopments Před 7 měsíci +1

      @@guringai Yes! 👉 My GOAL for 2024. 👈
      I will travel around Australia on a CYBERTRUCK for six months starting at the end of September 2024. I will give myself until April 2024 to assemble a team to travel with me. I will travel approximately 120 kilometres each day. I will travel 20,160km in six months. We will use one CYBERTRUCK as a prize for a lucky AUSTRALIAN, which you sell a long way when going around AUSTRALIA.
      I had a stroke on 4 July 2019.
      I am purchasing two CYPERTRUCK and your CYPERTRUCK to transport a team of four people around Australia. One of them will be a prize for a raffle.
      The Route of the first leg will follow:
      • Lismore NSW - Perth WA
      I have been swimming three days a week since January 2023 and will continue swimming at the above locations. I will stay in every town with a pool, outside or inside. I am now swimming 120 lengths at 6,000m of Goonellabah Pool, up from 15 measurements when I started.
      I will raise a minimum of AU$1,500.000.00. Those who have helped me and companies who have helped me:
      • My wife, Kate & Sons, saves me in 4th Jule 2019
      • Nurses and Doctors
      • Base Hospital and Ballina Rehabilitation Hospital
      • NSW Ambulance Service
      • All my friends and people have helped me. Lismore - Lismore Council - GSAC Baths.
      • Neuralink will help all the people who are worse off than me.
      • I take two Tesla Optimus robots.
      • Promote of Tesla - Cybertruck, Starlink, Optimus
      • Promote the CYBERTRUCK to the State Government and Police forces of States.
      ⌛ 13th & 14th April 2024 from 9.0am to 2.00 pm ⌛ - We are having a field day - Bi-directional Charging - Battery Electric Vehicles & Renewable Energy, Lismore Workers Sports Club. I will start producing videos by the end of April 2024.
      Cheers, Ian Cleland - Sustainable Urban Community Homes

    • @guringai
      @guringai Před 7 měsíci +1

      @@suchdevelopments Fantastic set of plans there!

    • @suchdevelopments
      @suchdevelopments Před 7 měsíci +1

      @@guringai We are looking for a TEAM of four people. Could you let me know if you are interested? Six months minimum, end Sept 2024 or you know someone.

  • @jimchandler4206
    @jimchandler4206 Před 7 měsíci

    Interesting and polished presentation where Toddington certainly made all the right noises- just a little disapppointed that Robert did'nt press him on the cost of rapid/remote charging. This HAS to be competive with the price of petrol, so 60p per kWh should be the current upper limit if current petrol car users are going to transition.

  • @justinstephenson9360
    @justinstephenson9360 Před 7 měsíci +2

    Well done to Gridserve but the reality is that UK motorway charging experience is still p*ss poor. Not enough chargers (but getting there) is bad enough but the pricing is a complete rip off. I have no problem with companies wanting to make a profit but currently the price is roughly 3x what it should be.
    I am sure people will point out that petrol was always very expensive at motorway service stations, which is true, but the difference is that most long journeys (3-4 hours and say 250-300 miles) can be completed on a single tank of fuel whereas most long journeys by EV cannot.
    Until the pricing comes down to something more reasonable I am not using an EV on long journeys

    • @GrahamRead101
      @GrahamRead101 Před 7 měsíci

      Agree, but it is getting better. Almost every service I stop at seems to have new banks of chargers going in

  • @katherandefy
    @katherandefy Před 6 měsíci

    Thank you both for alll that you do! 💯⚡️⚡️

  • @grahamcastle8189
    @grahamcastle8189 Před 7 měsíci

    Thank you, inspiring individual. Toddington for PM.

  • @GrahamWathey
    @GrahamWathey Před 7 měsíci +1

    I'm sure it's fabulous, I wonder if we'll ever see one in the North?!

    • @stuartj5520
      @stuartj5520 Před 7 měsíci +1

      The grid serve website states they are building one on the outskirts of Liverpool, and also on the M1 near Sheffield. And that’s just start with dot…

  • @paultaylor765
    @paultaylor765 Před 7 měsíci

    Hi Robert, I really enjoyed this interview, but a tour of the facility would have been nice, too 😮.

  • @jm123blue
    @jm123blue Před 7 měsíci +2

    The north of England and Scotland need Electric forecourts. Price needs to be more reasonable. All non Tesla Rapid chargers are much too expensive to convince the Ev doubters. I’ve been driving EVs since 2014 but others need convincing.

  • @barrymurton8988
    @barrymurton8988 Před 7 měsíci +1

    Old power stations should be used for battery storage, wind and solar power and yes they have connection to the grid!

  • @steamboatmodel
    @steamboatmodel Před 7 měsíci +1

    When will they have one in Toronto Canada ps. any Canadian ones would have to have a Tim Hortons Donut shop in it.

  • @frejaresund3770
    @frejaresund3770 Před 7 měsíci

    I have been enjoyed, so thank you for delivering.

  • @Leopold5100
    @Leopold5100 Před 7 měsíci

    just brilliant, we just need more of that reliable charging stuff here in Dunedin, New Zealand

  • @LadAussie
    @LadAussie Před 7 měsíci

    Great positivity! It's amazing what a good attitude, some convincing arguments and enough investment can accomplish.

  • @jonwragg3822
    @jonwragg3822 Před 7 měsíci +1

    Very interesting and great that new charging stations are being installed with facilities. But. 4 miles away from this charging station is a Tesla forecourt, ok it’s only for Tesla but how long before it’s converted to public charging. So why go to charge at Gridserve at 79p/kWh when you could go to Tesla and charge at between 45p - 60p/kWh. Gridserve need to be more competitive.

    • @narrowboatlongpod4176
      @narrowboatlongpod4176 Před 7 měsíci

      I charge at Tesla if I can but I wouldn't go too far out of my way just to save money, even though it's a reasonable sum. If you normally charge at home then it's just one of those things that has to be faced and isn't going to dramatically increase the cost of running an EV. Competition will eventually result in a levelling of prices but not necessarily by a significant amount. It's never going to match home charging which mostly uses off-peak power.

  • @patrickmckowen2999
    @patrickmckowen2999 Před 7 měsíci

    Excellent 👍

  • @blobstrom
    @blobstrom Před 7 měsíci

    Another amazing Gridserve facility. My only concern is will it be big enough to cope with what could be a high volume of traffic I think could be going through Gatwick in the future, taxi's etc.
    Also I know work was started in Uckfield, East Sussex for another Forecourt but has basically stopped because of DNO and national grid issues, will this be resolved or will Gridserve pull out and will this effect other locations going forward if the local DNO/national grid are seen to be dragging their heels to provide an adequate connection?

  • @motchmanjames9347
    @motchmanjames9347 Před 7 měsíci

    I have already experience Braintree, just brilliant, will have to tryout Gatwick when I am going past in Feb. I always plan my route using Gridserve, always reliable. I have an old nissan leaf so I very rarely drive pass a gridserve without stopping

  • @markwilliamson9199
    @markwilliamson9199 Před 7 měsíci

    Good stuff for the UK. Of course where I live in OZ the cheap price for electricity is daytime, all that solar running

  • @raidengl
    @raidengl Před 7 měsíci +1

    There is a brand new gas station that just opened walking distance from my house. I don't own an EV yet, but gas stations are a dime a dozen. I wish there were convenience stations but only for EVs popping up like gas stations.

    • @narrowboatlongpod4176
      @narrowboatlongpod4176 Před 7 měsíci

      In the UK, many people buy their petrol from a supermarket filling station. The old filling stations are now being used as car washes.

  • @mariebaxter473
    @mariebaxter473 Před 7 měsíci +2

    Great work chaps, i like the can do when people around say it cant be done ,i was waiting for a site tour Rob? How about a vaccine for the nay sayers and Smeeg heeeds ?

  • @Nikoo033
    @Nikoo033 Před 7 měsíci

    In moving towards a more sustainable future, we need to ensure that we do it in the most sensible way. In the UK, we have something like 50GW of potential roof top solar capacity, not to mention car parks…
    So before building any solar farm (we need our land to produce crops, grow trees and rewild), let’s boost roof top solar at scale!

  • @howlinguts
    @howlinguts Před 7 měsíci

    Slight aside - Gridserve forecourts are great, I've used Braintree and Norwich many times but airport parking requires slow chargers that can be used while you're on the beach somewhere. Am I missing these, do they already exist?

  • @barrymurton8988
    @barrymurton8988 Před 7 měsíci

    Also very impressed with their Customer Service and I will defo look to them if I upgrade next year!

  • @ovi9610
    @ovi9610 Před 7 měsíci

    Amazing, truly amazing.

  • @8282-rob
    @8282-rob Před 7 měsíci

    Cornwall services are horrendously slow, constantly dropping out and not enough charges for the busy holidays. My finding September 2023.

  • @danielmadar9938
    @danielmadar9938 Před 7 měsíci

    Beautiful ❤

  • @floydbertagnolli944
    @floydbertagnolli944 Před 7 měsíci

    For those of us not in the UK it would have been helpful, in the first 2 minutes, describe the location appearance & services offered, & for those of us on CZcams, show us some photos of the places. 🤓

  • @freethinker4991
    @freethinker4991 Před 7 měsíci +2

    Question are Gridserve forecourts supplying power for trucks up to Simis and B doubles?

    • @TerryHickey-xt4mf
      @TerryHickey-xt4mf Před 7 měsíci +3

      of all the service stations I have been in, the Semi section is always non-existent or separate. How many BEV big rigs are there at the moment?

    • @alanhat5252
      @alanhat5252 Před 7 měsíci

      ​@@TerryHickey-xt4mfit's a growing number, all the makers are selling 2 axle rigids of all sizes & there's more semis coming onto the market.
      Semis are slower to market because there's less space to put a battery & because more of them don't go back to base every night to be charged.

    • @freethinker4991
      @freethinker4991 Před 7 měsíci

      @@TerryHickey-xt4mf I am just interested in weather they have designed for large trucks as It looks like it would be a grate stop to truckers as at present most truck stops don't have EV charging. Tesla is rolling out the semi EV in the US and the European electric truck are made by companies such as Daimler, Scania, MAN, Renault Trucks, Volvo Trucks, etc. reports suggest In 2022, nearly 66 000 electric buses and 60 000 medium- and heavy-duty trucks were sold worldwide, representing about 4.5% of all bus sales and 1.2% of truck sales worldwide.

  • @leethompson2433
    @leethompson2433 Před 7 měsíci

    It is great to have these additional places but at airports, people are away for 4-10 days, tradional 3 pin plug would charge most cars to capacity in that time. That would be easy to implement.

  • @jamessayers5903
    @jamessayers5903 Před 7 měsíci

    As an EV driver I'd love to see an airport parking scheme where you can leave your car with them and they'll charge it up for you so when you get back it's fully charged.

  • @markmarco2880
    @markmarco2880 Před 7 měsíci

    “How can we delight?”
    Well, isn’t that lovely?…Explains much. Next level starting point, aiming for a new market.
    I am, btw, indeed delighted. The future has pried its way right up to…next Wednesday! Congrats, on getting things done through the pandemic. Proves that you have created a trim and fit business.

  • @trumptypumpty
    @trumptypumpty Před 7 měsíci +3

    I'm afraid Toddington's enthusiasm does not fill me with cheer. I live in a popular seaside town up north which has year round tourism and yet we still have only one 50kw charger.....not one charger with two charger points I mean ONE POINT! This is in a radius of over 20 miles, in addition we have very few 7kw chargers. I've had my ev 4 years now and expected much more, not just in my area but country wide, our rural locations are completely neglected (mainly due to an indifferent government which ignores the benefits of investing in infrastructure). The private sector understandably invests in high populated areas but this technology should be available to all of us. I hope Robert and the team could highlight the missed opportunities in our society? Come and visit us guys...North East coast between Scarborough and Middlesbrough....Report on how NOT to promote ev's!

    • @buttonmonkey6845
      @buttonmonkey6845 Před 7 měsíci +4

      Sounds a bit like it’s the same as in Lincolnshire 🙄……👋

    • @alanhat5252
      @alanhat5252 Před 7 měsíci +1

      Off to Screwfix with you then & get a couple of charging points & a payment machine to put on your front wall!

    • @buttonmonkey6845
      @buttonmonkey6845 Před 7 měsíci

      🤣…..🤔.

    • @trumptypumpty
      @trumptypumpty Před 7 měsíci +2

      @@alanhat5252 I wish I could! Sadly I'm not allowed to have my own charger installed. Luckily I no longer drive much but my point is that we're let down so often.

    • @philiptaylor7902
      @philiptaylor7902 Před 7 měsíci

      I guessed you lived in Whitby after the first couple of lines.

  • @halfabee7410
    @halfabee7410 Před 7 měsíci

    did you show it?

  • @JohnReiher
    @JohnReiher Před 7 měsíci

    I wish we had an electric car "forecourt" here in 'Murrica. Too many folks are still clutching that buggy whip to keep that from happening.

  • @jamesh284
    @jamesh284 Před 7 měsíci +1

    Can I ask what the plan is for towing and charging whilst towing? I haven’t seen anywhere that caters for this in the uk and I really want to move over to an electric car for towing my caravan. Excellent episode.

    • @alanhat5252
      @alanhat5252 Před 7 měsíci +2

      At Thurrock Services you drop your caravan in the campervans area which is full of lorries, drive the wrong way through the one-way system to charge your car, then return (the wrong way through the carpark exit) for your caravan which may have been boxed in by the time you get back.
      Oh, & don't use the last 2 chargers in the row, they often don't work.

    • @jamesh284
      @jamesh284 Před 7 měsíci +1

      @@alanhat5252 Sounds like that has been thought through well lol.

    • @alanhat5252
      @alanhat5252 Před 7 měsíci +1

      ​@@jamesh284I wouldn't want to try it with a big electric campervan either, you'd probably end up bumping over kerbs to get out through the lorry park. Cars have trouble turning round to get out.

    • @rogerphelps9939
      @rogerphelps9939 Před 7 měsíci

      Chargers really need to be set up like petrol puumps. The cable has to be of sufficient length to reach all sensible charge port locations. There would be no problem if you are towing a caracvan. Charging stalls or whatever they are called that you have to reverse into or out of are not very clever.

    • @rustybkts
      @rustybkts Před 7 měsíci +1

      The Gridserve forecourts have chargers laid out like petrol pumps and I guess you could always use the end one. I tow and have unhitched to use Tesla SC's.

  • @paulrhodes4618
    @paulrhodes4618 Před 7 měsíci

    Re: auto charging will this be available soon on Gridserve chargers?

  • @jamesstuart7792
    @jamesstuart7792 Před 7 měsíci

    can we get one of these up north please? maybe south Manchester... no reason, just seems like a good place to build one :P

  • @PhilManuel
    @PhilManuel Před 7 měsíci

    Gee we need this kind of thinking in Oz

  • @adrianupnorth
    @adrianupnorth Před 7 měsíci

    Great video. Hopefully going to see cheaper prices in the next year or so.

  • @brummiesalteno-81
    @brummiesalteno-81 Před 7 měsíci +2

    Is it just me or does Toddington sound almost exactly like Michael McIntyre? 😂

  • @cheesedoff-with4410
    @cheesedoff-with4410 Před 7 měsíci

    At first I thought this was going to be about Pease Pottage services not far away to the south. I hadn't realised that in addition to all the charging bays recently installed at Pease Pottage, that there was a purpose built charging station just 10 minutes away.
    (The loos sound better at the new place.)

    • @narrowboatlongpod4176
      @narrowboatlongpod4176 Před 7 měsíci

      Pease Pottage services could do with a revamp to match the (relatively) new chargers. As I like in Sussex, I'm not really likely to use either unless I think I'm not going to make it home.

  • @MrAdopado
    @MrAdopado Před 7 měsíci

    I love this but it was over 3 years ago when the first Electric Forecourt opened. Fabulous model but Toddington said they were aiming for 100 within 5 years ... this is number 3 ... that's 1 per year so not quite on target! (I know they've been busy with upgrading other chargers but even so ...)