Kooleen and Her INSANE Tutorials
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- čas přidán 14. 07. 2023
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Kooleen deleted my comment on her new video asking her to draw Hobie’s side profile 💀
HELPP 😭☠️☠️
Nah the racism really jumped out of her 😂
LMAOOOOOOOOO
LMAOOO 😭😭💀💀
You’re so brave for that
The only criticism I want to add is she keeps having “juicy lips” be apart of her brand but gets upset when people draw larger lips as ethnic features??
cus theyre not white or asian lol 💀
broo that's ABSOLUTELY true, i'm asian (chinese) had have huge chonky lips,, and am terrified that other people find it really ugly or stupid-lookin 'cause they don't taper nicely and aren't as thin as the "jjuicy lips" that are portrayed in media??? As bad as filling in naturally thin lips is, refusing real, ethnic, big, full lips as well, is just...wrong???
@@thou_narsty_gremlin yea “juicy lips” don’t just taper like that cuz then it’s just. Thin lips lmao but also fuck those people!!! Having big lips is badass and many people find that attractive!!!
What even in juicy lips😂 lip fillers? Like my white friend has bigger lips naturaly then her juicy lips but they don’t look like those😂
“It’s just her humour!” And her humour is blatant racism.
Cry
@@lomi5987like you do
@@hawkblood_art horrid reply khxys
fr it’s not even dark humor is edgy humor it’s just racist. “she looks like a gorilla” is not funny, not even structured like a joke and it’s just racist.
@@lomi5987 see. You're the one crying
She is not fixing the art, she is just forcing Eurocentric beauty standards on to the character.
You should watch Whytmanga, he draws black characters in such different ways and he has impeccable ARTSTYLE
@@samtonnude941 i love his art style even thou his artstyle kinda reminds me of bleach art style lol
@@NkenKenY Same🔥🔥
She's Asian, what's this about Eurocentric whatnot?
Not really eurocentric. She is using anime standards and apply them to actual people
It'll never ever sit right with me how she says she doesn't draw "ugly people" then just rarely draws darker people.
dude she litterally draws asian people most of the time and that because she is asian, it's easier to draw someone with the same feature that's her confort zone. And also the ugly people , I'm sorry but I never see people doing fan art (out of cocmmisions) of characters they find unattractive or reference picture of someone they find unattractive.
@@kiruyuui don't think you understand the comment
@@kiruyuume when I don't understand the comment
@@kiruyuu Read my comment again please
@@kiruyuu me when i dont read the comment properly
People who havent studied anatomy properly shouldn't teach tutorials 💀
THIS. dude omfg she doesnt even draw black people but has the AUDACITY to FIX an art with black people in it????
@@blepblep7245 seriouslyy, she only fixes the art based on what "looks" right really proves that she shouldnt be making tutorials/education videos in the first place
Sis, art school profs are shaking their damn heads somewhere. Anyone who tried can tell you, this type of art style won’t land you in art school. They hate this ‘anime’ shit.
@@pool.noodler she's not even correct in drawing east asians if that's what her excuse is. bc if you take east asians and draw a line from the nose like that it's gonna land like the g0rilla one bc east asians have flatter noses.
she only draws pale skinny manhwa girls and have the AUDACITY to fix arts outside that style 💀💀
@@beautifullEternal rlly? i was told that but i thought it's only in my country. is it global? why is the style hated?
Notice how she didn't comment on this video but did on the first one
Probably because she actually feels guilty. People can cross boundaries sometimes, then learn to not do that again.
@@pale_blue_ruby And yet she crossed boundaries once more recently...aka, sexualizing an aro-ace storytime youtuber Jaiden. Who herself stated that she suffered from strong body dysmorphia and hates being sexualizied.
Which really made me unfollow her this time, because I feel like she doesn't really think/care about how affected people could be.
the sheer amount of artists who get hella clout just because they learned quick digital rendering techniques rather than having good fundamentals 😩
It's interesting to see how you don't have to be a professional to become a popular artist online. I find it kinda inspiring, but it's also potentially bad because you can easily spread misinformation and promote your bad art habits. If I ever become more popular, I'm gonna add in some disclaimers, like "PLEASE DON'T USE ME FOR ART STUDIES. I DON'T KNOW SHIT EITHER. I JUST LIKE TO DRAW AND WANT TO SHARE IT WITH EVERYONE." Lol
@@Jeri-Berri it's great in that it shows there's potential/niches for everyone out there and plenty of metrics to succeed by but uh yeah, art tutorials should always be framed as for specific purposes since art is mostly about developing your observation
ohh this is too true 😭
while its fine to be popular online with bad fundamentals its another thing when you make tutorials with bad fundamentals
Girl really said "gorilla lookin mf " to a normal ass side face 😭
I believe It's just an exaggeration as her channel is also about "humour"
@@c0nicalflaskso you ignored everything else
@@c0nicalflaskdid u not watch the video
@@colacolala my bad,yes I was half way through it 💀(I do realise my mistake now)
@@c0nicalflask'm worried you didn't realise how racist it is. That was egregious. She had already explained that it was bad
Kooleen saying the jaw/chin has to curve inward like that personally offended me as someone who has handled human skulls,, like even if it wasn’t blatantly racist that’s literally not how anatomy works bruh
@@error-try-again-laterHmm that royal chin. We love to see it
@@elvingearmasterirma7241Hapsburg Ha!
@@error-try-again-laterYou mean an overbite (Yanderedev chin/incel chin) the chins of hers are too small underbite is Shrek/Dream chin
Regarding the face the eyes r a bit off imo but other than that it looks good??
She gives everyone that Leafyishere chin lmfao
tbh she always rubbed me the wrong way. not only does she come off as self-centered n racist but most of her “jokes” r insults. she also never “fixes” art, she turns them into another one of her bland copy paste drawings.
OMG SAME😭 I FELT THE SAME BUT I ALWAYS BRUSHED IT OFF THINKING I WAS JUST A SENSITIVE IDIOT😭😭 plus all of her drawings of people that are not real look the same
@@bensophin I THOUGHT I WAS A WHINY LIL BITCH FOR IT RUBBING ME THE WRONG WAY
sameee i just shut up about it because everyone seemed to love her
Thisss also IDK i really dislike how she is always like "Yassifying " and the whole "Juicy lip" thing annoys me for some reason..? LIke don't get me wrong but it sound like she has an obsession with lips?? IDK its just weird to me,,
it’s the internet and her fandom is full of children/teenagers lmao of course they would just deem those insulting “jokes” as the “savage one-liner”. hope they course through that phase soon enough, though, for the sake of everyone.
A senior artist I worked with (I don't mean an elderly artist, just a more experienced artist) saw my drawings and asked "do you draw attractive people all the time?" and I said yeah, he then advised me not to do that and try drawing faces and bodies differently or reference actual features from people IRL. I didn't get why I should do that bc I thought it's just my preference. Now I know why.
The goal is to GROW outside your comfort zone and actually be better at art in general. Imagine if I didn't dare try to draw the other eye, or the hands, or men. I wouldn't be the same artist I'm proud of right now.
@@AllyFin drawing what you like is also valid. A lot of people draw things they're fond of and attracted to, it's not uncommon. But I'm speaking as someone who pursues art seriously as a career and not just mere hobbyist anymore, so actually improving my artistic skills and knowledge is going to benefit me in pursuing this path. One of which is listening to an advice from a pro.
Secondly, I added about drawing the other eye, hands, and men because I used to not be able to draw those (I originally only draw pretty girls)- and because those are common problems artists often have. Had I not motivate myself to learn it, I'd never get where I am now as an artist.
And even when I was still a hobbyist, I don't enjoy being stagnant and would definitely still learn new things. So again, it's up to the individual.
Hope that clears things up.
I’m a black girl who is trying to learn how to draw black features. Calling out features “Gorilla features” is gross and nasty as hell. If you defend this person you are part of the problem and need help
Right sis , for years we see very Eurocentric things and art everywhere and now we want to draw us in an aesthetic and beautiful way❤ I finally helped my style is drawing black features by loads of portraits and Pinterest photos. ❤ good luck on your journey ❤️ 😊
@@ArtisticKaimage thank u
It's literally going back to 1500s seing the first old drawings of europeans comparing black african people with monkeys 💀
We need to stop this, it should have been stopped for centuries!
Omg same she definitely took it too far
@@Carmiinehikr
As a black person, I can say: it's not ignorance, it's racism.
Putting Eurocentric features on a black character, with black features is disgusting, racist and nothing will make me change my mind.
I already thought her art was generic, eurocentric and just plain wrong, but her charisma made me like her videos for that alone, but after that, I'm deeply disappointed and sick.
I'm a black illustrator and to say that such an illustration has a "gorilla face" is extremely offensive.
As a black person, same
I agree, especially since she’s someone who creates tutorials teaching others to draw the same. Before watching the full video I did think it was just ignorance. Just literally trying to use the same base for every race, but after watching the full video and reading this comment and reflecting on my own knowledge as an artist (especially someone who tries to capture different people and face shapes and such) and reflecting on the fact that I, as a white artist, have never tried to force Eurocentric features on characters of other races except when I was like 12 and drawing the same face over and over for the same character. Basically, after reflecting I don’t see how it could be passed off as just ignorance.
Do tutorials then and teach the 'right way'
@@ericamutowodzwa628there is not one ‘right way’ to do art. art is a form of self expression. but when someone is being harmful and RACIST in their art and especially tutorials that are meant to teach other people what the artist considers the ‘right way’ is unacceptable
@@ericamutowodzwa628 The whole point is that there isn't a "right way" to draw faces when there are somewhere around 650 ethnic groups (at least according to one study published by WaPo) and an endless variation of bone structures among those groups. So an artist doing a tutorial and taking the facial structure of one ethnicity and putting the features of your own onto it is ignorant *at best,* and just plain racist if you haven't earned the benefit of the doubt, which she hasn't.
I heard someone say *Kooleen Balinger* and that’s probably the most real thing I’ve heard all day.
Kooleen still hasn't deleted her Anyussy comment 😬
@@nukita718 Anya?
@@MarsPicnicyes considering she's literally a minor.
As a white guy even my face doesn’t slope as much as Kooleen is saying, my nose is only slightly further out than my chin. Even in most anime art styles the chin and nose aren’t slanted! I hate that everything these artist who “fix art” do is remove any kind of style, I saw one that just straight up admitted it and shat on someone for drawing eyebrows on top of the hair bc “oh that doesn’t happen in real life” when the drawing wasn’t even in a realistic style! God they’re just so infuriating
Ohhh I know the video you’re talking about, that REALLY ticked me off when I heard that, like, stylisation exists!
There was a big SamDoesArt drama before and ppl hated him for not drawing differently (his style had same face syndrome) but praised kooleen for having it?? Like ppl hated Sam for not drawing "diversity" but kooleen straight up said she doesn't draw "ugly people" and the last time I saw her art it was pretty much asians only.
ONGGGGGG PREACHHHHH
And not even actual asian people, but overglorified east asian people + additional eurocentric beauty standards
sam is amazing
Ngl Sam stepped it UP in the past few months he's starting to experiment with complexions and features more :)
fr like what??
THE EDGES PART MADE ME GO INSANE HOW IS SHE THAT IGNORANT 😭
IM STARTING TO UNIRONICLY THINK SHES NEVER ACTUALLY SEEN A BLACK PERSON 💀💀
the ignorance is see through atp
wdym
@@StopCrying178:20
it feels anti black tbh 💀
I'm not black. In fact, I am Filipino like Kooleen and I have the features that she considers "gorilla-looking". Really uncalled for.
I watched her thinking "I get the vibes shes gonna do something bad but I'll stay for now" and what do you know...
Tbf I'm used to youtubers, especially in the art community, plus she somewhat made me think of Creepshow, so it probably was more that than "Wow I'm so smart and intuitive 🤩🤩🤪"
I want to give my perspective on this as a Filipino, because Kooleen is Filipino. People who defend her (I assume to be international fans) may say she does draw POC aka Asian people because she's Asian herself. However, COLORISM is still very prevalent in the Philippines and much of Southeast Asia.
Kooleen mostly draws characters with eurocentric and East Asian features, and EA culture has been idolized in the PH for a long time (anime, kpop, kdrama). Thus their beauty standards have influenced PH beauty standards as well, while our own native features are put down. Which is why I find it harmful that she says she doesn't draw "ugly people" and I have not seen her draw any Filipino characters (apart from a couple of fanart of people who DO fit the beauty standards) and just darker skinned people in general.
facts dude, hell even in east asia there are obvs people with tan and darker skin (like mwah :33) and yet if youve never lived there and only watched shows from there, you wouldnt even know. we’re barely protrayed in media that much, if at all. and if we are, we’re more likely to be protrayed as villians
real, its so sad
^ this
@@wareware_. fr there are japanese who are very dark/tan bc they go to the beach sm and there are chinese ppl who are NATURALLY tan like just born with it
I'm also a Filipino and I confirm this too. Colorism is shit in the Philippines
Have you also noticed she says she never draws ugly people, then proceeds to never draw people who aren’t white/Asian
She only draws the picture perfect image of the east Asian beauty standard, pale skin, v shape face, double eye lid, etc etc, so she's only drawing anime characters or kpop stars, which is also terrible because many women are pressured to get surgeries or they are discriminated against
@@bimates2690her choice to be racist
@@Nikita_Dyatlovthat’s fine but whenever she “corrects” art, she treats it like her style constantly & actively dismisses certain features as if they’re non-existent.
@@bimates2690It’s racist though. Drawing only one specific race and leaving out the rest for ANY reason is weird and discriminatory.
@@Nikita_Dyatlov ignoring the obvious problem of kooleen being purposefully ignorant? It's not a crime, but she also thinks she has the right to critique the work of others and "fix it" when she doesn't even know how to draw anything but an anime style nor is she a professional, the absolute horror of it all, I know /s
the worst part is I bet that if kooleen saw someone saying Asian eyes were ugly she’d be angry, while she publicly discourages beginner artists to draw black features as they make people “look like gorillas.”
Kooleens apology was painfully half assed omg 😭😭😭😭
As somebody who likes Kooleen and is Black this is insanely disrespectful and racist :/ I'm feeling really conflicted about this
For real I don’t know how I should feel about her
fr, i’m a black fan of hers as well and i’m very disappointed.
Tbh as a black person I immediately unsubscribed and unfollowed her on CZcams and Instagram after watching this video.
Me too 😕
I’m sorry :( You deserve better.
Artists don’t have to draw every race, they can draw whatever race they want. But it does not give them the right to trash other races. Face shapes are various so she shouldn’t really be saying “i dont draw ugly people” as if ugly people are not worth being drawn, its weird. She also needs to stop FIXING art/ROASTING art when her art style is ANIME not black art.
Exactly.
Tyyy, it’s making people look dumb by saying she needs to draw more black people. For one, what about any other race? For two, that’s not the problem here lmao.
@@abjectmadness1111 Its like telling fantasy medieval background artists to draw more modern futuristic cities. It just doesn't correlate. When you train yourself one way aka Anime art as I have seen her art is, there's no way she is going to understand black culture drawing and that sort of style because whether people like to admit it or not, it is a VERY different style of drawing.
@@Aloysius_OHare Tbh I think it’s easy to draw black people in an anime style, but it doesn’t mean you have to . Literally just draw what you want
In the modern day, I think it’s necessary for a healthy artistic diet to be able to draw ugly/old/non-white people. You don’t have to draw it all the time! You should just know how to in a pinch.
Im gonna be honest, I was suspicious ever since she said "I don't draw UGLY people" its lowkey a dog whistle
Exactly!
The “I don’t draw ugly people” line is definitely what made me first raise my eyebrow, but I still watched her videos for a couple weeks after that. Eventually I lost interest, then I didn’t watch her for a while and BAM turns out she’s racist. Glad I jumped off the kooleen train before it got bad-
PREACH
Literally, saying she only draws attractive people and then refusing to draw anyone who isn’t the beauty standard is odd
Right. Even if it wasn't race based that's just a disgusting thing to say at all. It made her seem arrogant and it was a complete turn off
Its so so tiring to see ppl who use their "art style" as an excuse to be racist/colorist, fatphobic, ableist, etc. Draw whatever you want, just dont be a fucking asshole. Also, all bodies and facial structures are perfectly fine and even beautiful.
Or teach art in general. Like don’t start teaching people about facial features or general anatomy without even grasping it yourself. Only drawing a certain group of people in tutorials, legit don’t teach because she isn’t a good teacher.
Exactly the more diversity the more beauty it is to be drawing and having fun ❤ and giving people representation . ❤
Fr
She actually get the permission of the original artist to draw their characters on her OWN , they agreed on it so ...
@@luna-mt7sf yes but her critiques weren’t rooted in a good LIGHT nor where they with the knowledge on how to draw other races properly or with respect.
The whole “gorilla” Commentary was uncalled for and rude for her to say.
the fact she uses so much AAVE but then go around to blatanty be rascist to the people that invented her "slang"
I distinctly remember her using "lightskin stare" to describe one of her drawings that was absolutely not a lightskin black person and it irritated me so much.
This is so true, it goes back to people appropriating black culture. You want the benefits of being black (our slang, our full lips, our curvy bodies, our food) but you don’t have to deal with the problems that come with being black. It’s so very frustrating
right!! the least she could do is respect the community that made it :(
I wanted to comment something like this but I wasn't sure if I was misremembering her use of AAVE
@@hope3290the lightskin stare isnt only for lightskin black people bro
holy fuck I wasn’t expecting that😭 she really “fixed” a perfectly good picture of a black woman, and it looked extremely bad after. I kinda saw that she would do something like this on ur other video, but I didn’t think much bc u excused her, but after this i’m just like, wow😭🤨.
The fact that the original image had the woman tilt her head, and that was entirely ignored in the “fixing”.
The only issue to be fixed with the painting imo is the uneven coats of paint and lack of harder edges, other than that its a real nice piece!
@@shreddedcardigan3972 exactly. i’ve always hated how people only draw that “anime” face shape. just makes you realize how exclusive the mainstream is. most d add hallow artist only draw that one side profile, with that button nose. and as soon as someone draws something different they call your art bad. everytime I see something related to drawing humans, there’s always something bad😭
@@error-try-again-later i’m not saying it’s bad or anything (sorry if it came off like that) i’m just saying that everyone does that and nobody experiments with other face shapes.
Fr! The only fix the og art needed was the eyes and eyebrows needed to be moved
But no kooleen had to add in a complete facial reconstruction 😭😭😭
@SatansBabybat yeah most art tutorials are just the basic skinny anime anatomy. It's so hard finding anything for more diverse features that sometimes I had to just go learn on my own 😅
The fact that Neo-Nazi accounts on social media were defending her...was a tell-tale sign that she effed up. She won't address it, its one thing to do it and then apologize immediately. But to make several videos afterwards on different platforms and not address it, you lose the "I was ignorant to blah blah blah" card. It was intentional, and she's showing us how she really feels. Her fanbase is annoying as well.
her fanbase is annoying because they are like 10-15. its really honestly disgusting that shes perpetuating these things to her young audience when her herself is 20 years old. like grow tf up. her excuse was "i haven't consumed western media 🥺🥺🥺" girl what the fuck is you talking about black people aren't only in the west like...
funny enough, her own side profile doesn't apply to her rule of drawing side profiles.
I guess by her own logic, she's an ape just like me.
As a black artist that looks like the “gorilla mf” and is a little insecure about it this hurt me 💀 it’s perfectly fine not to draw darker skinned people when you’re doing art for yourself. HOWEVER when you’re teaching like Koolen is that’s when you absolutely need to be multifaceted. That’s when it’s harmful to young artists as well as black/brown people. Shame on her for teaching this and pushing that our features are not worthy of drawing. A little disappointed to say the least😭
AGAIN JUST WANT THIS KNOWN: no one is forcing her to draw darker skinned people at all. I never said she HAS to draw people like me that’s perfectly fine if she doesn’t this is just an observation on how this could potentially be harmful to younger artists. Absolutely no hate to her I’m sorry I didn’t specify enough with my first comment.
If I tell you that I already expected it? 😶
Girl I have same kind of side profile and when first saw kooleen's video a while ago I was so insecure and thought there is something wrong with me I even started to do some face yoga ( that was dumb of me ) I even used to edit my picture to make it look like that line ! Crazy of me but after some time of learning how everyone's face is and they suit them I just don't care about it anymore also believe me you are beautiful tooo 💗🙌 don't care about what people say !
10000% this
Like ppl say that she's only out to teach her own style but it's clear that a lot of beginner artists *are* taking her tutorials as all encompassing and tbh some of her tutorials present themselves as such
Like the side profile tutorial she's not taking like she's teaching it in her style she's talking like she's presenting general anatomy tips
So ya, of you want to teach you have to be a well rounded artists and make sure you're not spreading crappy pinterest tutorials
I SAW IT AND WAS LIKE “oh ok” 🥲🥲🥲
she doesn't have to teach everything. if she can't draw black characters, why would she teach other people to do so ? you don't have history teachers teaching you about arithmetics
She literally draws the same emotionless, bland people who all look the same ALL the time, I dont think ive ever seen her draw any person without a thin tiny nose, " big juicy lips", and a perfect jaw line
And light skin
Edit: I've heard the same thing twice so please before you complain read the rest of the replies so nobody's time is wasted
(Especially yours. Don't waste your time on an entire paragraph explaining how someone is wrong. This is the Internet, where everyone will have different opinions.)
I can understand being mad at racism, but being mad that she's drawing the same stuff over and over is just being entitled.
she draws whatever she wants to draw. unless she avoids drawing people with dark skin because of racism, saying she *has* to draw them when she may not know how to is just entitled.
@@dummyyogurt5375point to us where they ever said she “has” to.💀
@@dummyyogurt5375if she “doesn’t know how to” draw dark skinned people (which is bs, she should at least give it a try) then why tf is she making art tutorials and giving others advice on how to draw black ppl?
so what if she draws what she draws? what does it have to do with you?
koolen’s next video: “THE TOXIC GOSSIP TRAIN-“ /j
KOOLEEN AND COLLEEN
Always those people with any variation of colleen
@@usersiudfgjjWAIT WHY DOES IT RHYME
Close enough, but her recent video was one claiming to "fix" storytime animators "avatars" (aka their real-life likenesses which she thinks are "just avatars") while mocking everything about their style. She even called Jaiden a "soccer mom" when she isn't even a bigot or a parent.
Crazy how she replied to your last video but now she’s completely silent!
no matter if she is racist or not, the fact she only draws “attractive” people while only drawing slim lightly skinned people, shows that she finds darker skin and non-Eurocentric features ugly, or at least not “attractive”, at the end of the day she is an influencer and her drawings reach thousands of impressionable people (probably kids) who might think that only lighter skinned people are beautiful, or that your art only matters if you are drawing “good looking” people.
Erasing black features is racist. Simple
@@JoJoboiWavwe found the racist 😂
@@JoJoboiWavWtf do you mean not her type..that's an odd thing to say 💀
She draws East Asian (specifically Korean) beauty standards so it’s not Eurocentric, but she’s still very ignorant. She’s even Filipino, and alot of Filipino people have darker skin and wide noses, so her not drawing them because ‘she might not know how’ is so funny.
@@Kuromikinnie go after all those anime artists then, they're all doing it, I rarely see any non attractive models in art community in general
Kooleen when humans features are not copypaste like her art :😭🙀😰😱😭😫
Omg frrrrr
😰what do you mean all faces aren't the same!??!!!!!😰
@@User5670.it's a horror 😱😰😨
FR i have a wonky nose and paper cut lips, that’s part of myself, it’s horrible that i see artists saying drawing them like that is “wrong”.
have you seen her miguel o’hara fanart?? it doesn’t even look like him😭😭
me when my face isn’t anatomically correct according to kooleen: 😭😭😭
Now she will try to reshape my face 😞
awww mann now I have to get face surgery😢😢😢
Y’all are funny asf lmao
The problem with artists today is that every time they “fix” your art they actually just make your art looks like their art style so it looks “better”
i’m gonna be honest her art isn’t the best either. she doesn’t seem to understand anatomy that well, like her “don’t let the chin exceed the nose” isn’t even true AT ALL for so many character designs. beginners shouldn’t be taking her advice to heart when she herself doesn’t know how proportions work 😭😭
She gives them the red ass lips and greasy hair to every single drawing and call it “yassified” ☠️
Maybe if she drew different types of people she'd know that.🤭
Finally someone who thinks the same as me
yup😭
@@lordtettemaybe she always use the same model, I don’t know, she sometimes uses reference and the character doesn’t not look like the reference at all
always felt a bit weird whenever she said she doesn't draw ugly people and then proceeds to only asian/white skinned ppl with the same face 98% of the time
+ the "fixing art" clip of her was really a WTF moment
Very North European looking Asian people.
@@artistaroundtheblock2047 jdhshs i mostly said Asian bc if you see her Pinterest its basically all East Asian models (specifically Koreans/korean manhwas) but her artsyle is mixed
"gorilla lookin mf" anatomy are very common among asians, even east asians bc we have flatter faces. and she is asian so idk why she would be saying that.. and if she's saying "i OnLy dRaW aTtRacTivE pEoPLe" NO. bc some idols have that kind of anatomy, hitomi (izone) is one example. that face anatomy is as attractive as it is.
like dude even jennie (black pink) side view is closer to the "gorilla lookin mf" one. we tend to have flatter noses than white people so if you draw a line like that from the nose it's gonna land like the "gorilla lookin" one
Yep now shes going to fair by saying those words idk why some of her “fans” still depend them still。
GIRL you do not understand how long ive been waiting for somebody to talk about koolen, ive literally thought al of these things and her tutorials are stupid to me considering how she only "fixes" people art, but she's only teaching everyone how to draw in her specific style... BUT ANYWAYS GREAT VIDEO I LOVE
I thought I was completely alone on this! People try to play off her actions as dark humor and it’s just wrong! Glad I’m not the only one!
let's replace her with ai >:)
@@thecreativeducky5781 AI can't recreate her humor.
@@AJ-lm5dl >:C AI NEEDS TO RULE THE WORLD GRAHHHHH HOW DARE YOU OPPOSE ME MORTAL FOOL
Tbh, ive never really liked Koolen. I never hated her, but its kind of her personality. She literally acts like she is the number one artist in the world, and when people’s drawings aren’t like her ARTSYLE, she literally roast it BADLY. And when i open the comments section,i only see positive comments of people PRAISING her, because they are scared that she might roast them, and because most of her fans have lack of self esteem, while Kooleen has a lot of self esteem, i have no problem with that, but she drains other people with her ego. And when she roast people’s art, as we all notice, she doesn’t respect it, and says offending words. Which is not okay! ^^. And the worst is that her fans are like “Why is everyone taking Kooleen’s words so seriously? Like yall lets all appreciate her for WASTING her time to give us the best tips ever!” When in reality most of her fans who say this are actually offended by her comments but doesn’t admit it because they are too “afraid”. Well honey, she can DEFINITELY and SIMPLY give us tips without roasting us THIS bad. And no, i WILL take myself seriously and im not gonna let some youtuber roast my art rudely. Plus, she always draw the same facial features on her character, skintone,etc. And when it comes to people drawing different artstyle/skintone characters, she is not okay with that. Lets all be for real for ONCE.
And then die hard Kooleen fans defend her by saying “it’s just SATIRE”
Hearing Rin call Kooleen a bad artist is what I've always needed without knowing I needed it (she is horrible)
Legit, her artstyle is so flat, she literally only draws one type of bodytype per gender. But as soon someone shows FLUIDITY?? Awful. Disgusting. Literally a gorilla.
@bimates2690 dawg why are you asking me this like I know. Also you can be any race to call out Kooleen for being R*cist.
@@Shelby.Correiawhy’d u censor racist lmao
real
@@wormholeater because i felt like it
you are so real for this, i used to watch Kooleen and realized how she just draws the same person and sticks to Eurocentric features for her art while saying “i dont draw ugly people.” So that gives me a bad taste in my mouth, knowing she doesnt really draw black people, other people with dark skin, etc. So you got a sub. 👍 I’m sorry to the people that had their normal side profiles insulted by her 😭
edit: i think she lives in the Philippines and as a Filipino the “gorilla looking” side profile IS common in Filipinos.
And she says “I draw beautiful people because their features are symmetrical and it’s easier to draw them”
Maybe she is only lazy
Aside from black people she doesn't even draw REAL asian people or even white people,she only draws a specific beauty standard and deems it as the only pretty thing to draw
@@Maryam-forbia dude im east asian and my side profile is the "gorilla one" bc my nose is flat, so if you draw a line like that it's gonna land straight on my lips and chin
@@blepblep7245I'm half middle eastern half filipino so both my chin lips AND nose stick out Kooleen would call me a literal jump scare ngl 💀
@@mittag983 😭😭😭. ur not ugly tho, she's just stupid at drawing anything other than skinny manhwa girls
also like the "dont take her seriously shes satire" defense doesnt rly work when u take asecond to scroll thru the comments of her videos bc its literally all ppl going "omg this helped me so much this is such a good tutorial thank you" like clearly people are using her tutorials like theyre genuine (becos they are)
SERIOUSLY. That's a great point. People need to take this into account. 💀
true
Right. And why do people call her content “satire”??? What is she satirizing?? An insufferable CZcamsr??
also like satire is exaggerating something to point out how ridiculous it is. WHAT is she satarizing?
@@biothehaz4rd She satires art. She draws silly stuff.
This might've been slightly controversial.. but she shouldn't have taught artists her methods to begin with. She's a bad teacher- not a bad artist, but a bad teacher to young and impressionable artists. The fact that she attempted to use the 'right' and 'wrong' teaching method was problematic on its own.
Kooleen: *criticizes other's art*
Her Fans:
People: *Criticizes her art and tutorials*
Her Fans: THAT'S ILLEGAAAAL!!!!
REAL
And then they call ppl who criticizes jealous😭😭
@@elektrapapakosma8144didn’t those people get harassment from her fans after the art ‘fixes’.
@@elektrapapakosma8144But some only wanted FEEDBACK not roasts
@@mittag983 I'm not defending her, but her titles are literally roasting your art, people know that and submit it willingly, like, she doesn't hold a gun to their head or smthng
Rin as a (mixed race) black person I must say you are spitting facts, thank you for talking about this 😎👍🏽🤍
As a black person I say artists chose what they want to draw, very rarely will you see black characters in anime and no-one complains what is the difference
@ericamutowodzwa628 ppl do complain abt the lack of diversity in anime tho☠️ also when black characters are in anime they're usually stereotypes
@@ericamutowodzwa628people don't watch anime to learn to draw usually. Kooleen makes art TUTORIALS to teach people. Teaching artists lack of diversity will contribute to harmful stereotypes and leave people unable to draw black features/be discouraged to draw those features in the feature.
@@ericamutowodzwa628 What are you going on about dawg did we even watch the same video 💀
as a mixed person, agreed.
Wayyy off topic but I’ve fallen into a Kooleen drama rabbit hole so this video randomly appeared in my recommended and YOU’RE SO MAJESTIC?? ACTUALLY GORGEOUS
NO CAUSE FR SHES ACTUALLY SO PRETTY WOW
FRR she's actually stunninggg
Strange to be an artist who can’t see beauty in people
general rule: never trust mfs named "colleen"
koolaid
💀😭
@@swrzyyah, Kool aid man valid
That have “ballinger ” as their last name or the channel name “kooleen”
Also the one who write shitty ahh books
To me it just seems like kooleens tutorials are more so just another way to show her art and style, rather than an instructional guide that's actually helpful. Also that shit about "gorilla looking mf" is actually crazy damn
I just found my new favorite artist
Omg wait its the parody voiceover guy
So am I the only one who always avoids kooleen when it comes to learning and tutorials???
Edit: in conclusion she shouldnt be teaching at all
I usually point people to drawabox these days since it's a pretty useful thing for developing your mechanical skills and observation for technical drawings
You're not gonna be making glamorous stuff right away, but going for the "I wanna draw something pretty" shortcut tends to kneecap people for later
Nah you're NOT THE only one. I love Ethan Becker most lol
@@AdoboSoGuud Ethan Becker is S tier and so is samdoesarts
Most of the time her tutorials look like the ones from early 2010s on how to draw a generic anime face for beginners anyways 😬
@@bensophinand that’s on everything 🎉🎉❤❤❤
i am SO happy people are finally calling kooleen out. shes not fit to teach art, try looking at her sketches and youll understand. her line quality, anatomy skills, perspective are all poor and simply scream beginner. she is too comfortable in her style and refuses to actually improve, and instead all the praise she gets online keeps her in that rut. her tutorials are for her own artstyle and seriously limit young artist's creativity and improvement. please, only take advice from actual professional artists and not some beginner online
RIGHT!! Ive always felt weird about kooleen because I see people praising her but I feel like she's not more than an intermediate artist. she goes around preaching her art choices as anatomical rules, kind of nice to know I'm not the only one 😭😭 I feel like she draws the same 3 faces
@@michelle5952best part is she cant draw any other face. Check out her Miguel O Hara fanart, she made him look like a eboy 😂
She just want attention remember
@@user-ci2dw1pc4d NO WAY THATS MEANT TO BE MIGUEL 💀 literally an eboy
She teaches her styles, if she doesn't wanna draw something she doesn't have to. Stop forcing artists to draw what you want. If you want art, then make it yourself or commission.
I like her art style, but I don't intend on making my style like hers.
She gets praise cause her art looks good, stop trying to force teach the "correct" way of drawing.
If people are serious about learning art, then they'll look for multiple sources for learning, if they don't then that's on them.
Its sad. There's literally so many Filipino and Philippine based artists that draw diversely than kooleen but they're the ones that get underappreciated and attacked online :(
That's so true and it's disappointing. Do you have any Filipino artists you'd like to recommend? I'd love to check them out and support them!
@@Jeri-Berrisame!! I would love some recommendations of yours
Leaving a reply here to check back later for any artist recommendations!
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Leaving a reply for an update 🙋🏽♀️
I'm a Filipino artist too and man I'm so ashamed of what she said 🥲 A lot of excellent Filo artists draw POCs without this racist shit, I promise 😭
Fr, she's an embarrassment to Filipino artsists.
(amputa talaga💀)
The first time i felt ashamed to be filipino….
. Im not filipino im black but the fact the people defending her actions are using the fact she is filipino as excuse to be racist is a little racist in itself sorry you ahve to go through this hope you prosper
@@arlenevarner5539 Thank you! :') I hope for you to prosper as well
I don't.. really get it? I know kooleen will have her own opinion and she will continue to live with her opinion, which i believe is that east asians are prettiest.
she likes drawing east-asians, and thats not a problem to me or you i believe. but she can't always do what you request her, especially if they don want to step out of their comfort zone and maybe draw other races, because skin colour matching can be hard. it's even hard for me.
i'm not trying to stand up for kooleen, i understand that she may be calling darker skin toned (it doesn't feel right to me to say black.) people because she's used to her manhua artstyle! and i believe that she may think that you will criticize her because her artstyle looks ugly when drawing darker skinned people.
i haven't listened to the woman in the video yet, as its really late at night. if someone can summarise the video for me and point out all of my mistakes it would be great.
kooleen is a great artist, and she should keep pursuing i believe.
In her other tutorials she calls her viewers "stupid" and "dumb" too and its so freaking annoying when you literally understand everything she says and she just tells you "stupid" "dumb"...
Koolen reminds me of an artist I had known and lemme tell ya; some artist say some bs and refuse to admit they're wrong. They can have lovely art and "good" intent but the moment you correct them they scoff and insist they're right. It's insanity tbh. Worst part, people will defend them with their LIVES.
oh my god she thought the edges were eyebrows holy fuck the secondhand embarrassment
But she uses aave like her life depends on it… irony
Can't blame her for that one, though.
Why were they so low and so long?
Those baby hairs looked like oversized eyelashes.
The fact that kooleen is ignoring the whole situation and pretend she don’t know about the drama is crazy…
I have seen a couple of people comment on how Kooleen only really draws the same emotionless, manwuah faces which is true but here's the thing, she will draw hyperdetailed, meme type faces at the end of SOME of her tutorials as a joke. This shows she CAN draw some interesting art when she pushes herself to do so but the majority of the time she won't do that. She'll just stick to the old, repetitive method of attractive, euro-centric/East asian models because she knows and acknowledges in her own videos that is what gets her the clout she admits to chasing, she wants the clicks, the views and the likes, and that's the easy route for her. I won't completely blame her for THAT because it's her choice to draw whatever she likes but it's kinda missed potential that she won't experiment with her style and instead will continue with the same old formula.
Finally SOMEONE SAID IT .I’ve seen many artists draw darker tones occasionally - but man why can’t they learn some more diverse features instead of just making the character look really tanned .
literally, it's so upsetting
Kooleen would be fine if she was drawing for herself, but considering she is an artist giving out *tutorials*, she influences younger artists to draw exactly like her and it can really hinder their progress
Oh so no wonder I haven’t improved in a year😭 because I was trying to follow her advice
I hate those “do this not that” artist who give no real substance/teachings as to why you should draw like them. She’s going to hinder a lot of people, this is why art teachers get mad when you try to draw anime in class lmao
And also, I followed one of her tutorials and my art was no longer my style, it was Koleen’s style
@@bensophinfocus on building basic skills like perspective, anatomy, line art, coloring, and let your art style develop naturally by picking up traits here and there from various artists you admire :)
@@vivikyue alright but I need the motivation first😭
Honestly, from the first Kooleen video I watched back when she had only about ~300k subs, she already left a taste in my mouth that was so ridiculously sour. I didn’t know it at the time, but I realized it after she got 1m. Her art was soulless and underwhelming, just extremely mediocre, her tutorials don’t help young artists learn how to draw, it just helps them learn how to draw *like her*. I think in that same video I watched she outright said that she wasn’t trying to be funny at all, she was just being honest.
Now seeing her call Black features “gorilla” features gives me all the more reason to dislike Kooleen.
On the issue of her barely drawing POCs other than East Asians, I am a light-skinned Filipina and colorism really is a huge, huge problem in the Philippines, East Asia is also extremely idolized in the Philippines, Eurocentric and/or East Asian features with light skin is pretty much the beauty standard here. I get a lot of comments from people saying that they want my skin color. My parents told me I shouldn’t go outside to “avoid getting brown skin”, they even told me people get work opportunities for that, I watched a documentary on how many Filipinos, especially Filipino women spend money to bleach their skin (I believe my mother has tried this too), skin whitening products are darn near everywhere. TLDR: Colorism in the Philippines is batshit crazy.
So fucking true couldn’t have said it better myself
This is off topic but I really like the way you write it’s very nice
god you write just like me. thank you. this needed to be said tbh
advice on finding good tutorial for begginners :
- Nothing is absolute, if they say "always do this" / "never do that" its a red flag, all rules are meant to be brocken in art, even in this comment, there's always exceptions. If you follow a rule too rigidly (i lack a better word) it can make you stuck at some point of your progress, i sure know i did, you'll progress faster by staying flexible. Even one and two point perspective are a lie, they're great tools but far from perfect and can totally be broken.
- if they show actual pictures (i mean photos) as a reference and explain how the stylize it, it's a green flag. that way you can know where the feature come from and you can chose to implement it in your art or stylize it a bit differently in a way you're more confortable with
- If they don't show or allow diversity in the tutorial, huge red flag. Those tutorials that are "boys vs girls" that only shows muscular dudes and thin girls despite people looking all different from one another usually won't teach you how to draw people and be flexible, but only how to draw those particular two archetypes. Even if you only want to draw "pretty white pinterest girl" type of art, those tutorials usually lack precision.
- not exactly about tutorials, but remember why you're doing art. Do you want to be a professionnal ? have professionnal skills ? or do you just draw for fun ? What i mean is, don't stress out too much about not progressing fast enough or not having a popular artstyle : not only is progress slow and ugly, but also, you don't have to progress if you don't want to (and don't want to be professionnal). Internet art community can make you feel like it's a competition and you have to constantly get better when doing art for fun is good enough, even if your art isn't "pretty" in the eyes of most internet people. By knowing exactly what you want, you'll find better tutorials and advices to follow.
- don't be afraid of testing out things yourself even when they're ugly, your ugly art matters a lot (also not all art are meant to be pretty).
thank you for this!!
kooleen is one of the reasons why i, as a black person, feel so insecure abt my side profile. i personally thought i looked like a monkey & to see other ppl think that as well is absolutely heartbreaking.
I promise you do not look like a monkey. Do not let insecure people like her ruin how you see your body. You’re carrying the features of your ancestors and you should be proud of that.
@@oddpickle thank you. it’s very difficult to remember that sometimes.
your features are gorgeous! all are: i think an artist that doesn't see that is an ignorant fool, and not an artist really.
As another Black girl who doesn't have a side profile like that, trust me, you do NOT look like a monkey at all. Those features are literally so gorgeous. Don't let ignorant people think they have a say on your beauty. She didn't even know what literal edges were, age clearly has no clue as to what she is talking about.
There is nothing wrong with your side profile. Humans have diverse facial features and although art tips found on the internet may help you get an idea of where to place the facial features on a face, tips are just loose guidelines. It's like learning the rules (of course these aren't rules that are set in stone, just a simplification on my part) so you will know where to bend them or break them to suit your style. There are no hard and fast rules to it and even if your features do not follow them, it doesn't mean that there is anything wrong with them.
Let me reiterate, your features do not need to follow or fit a certain criteria, don't let one artist who does not understand facial anatomy define how you see yourself because the rules they set for themselves in their art does not reflect real life.
Diversity wins! All kooleens characters have an overbite
easily my fav comment by far
I have an overbite and hate it
HKEPS 😭😭😭
I got braces so I don’t have overbite now. I guess I’m not anatomically correct now.
Facts they all look like a yassified Yandere Dev
dude i love your accent so much its so satisfying
kooleen is the reason why people don’t want to draw different ethnic features other than east asian ones
ironically asia is so fucking diverse of so many different features and that’s just asia :/
For me it wasn't the tutorial that really bothered me but the fixing art bit. I mean liquifying the art to have conventionally attractive/eurocentric features feels very upsetting to me.
But i blame this on the fact that Koolen probably has a severe case of same face sybdrome. Which if you chek her Instagram and her drawings of miguel you'll be able to see.
Because of that she isn't able to acknowledge diverse features because she couldn't draw them even if she wanted to. And there's nothing particularly wrong with that but maybe if that's the case she really shouldn't be fixing art or giving advice or criticism as she puts it.
Very well put. Thank you
u are so right. the people in the comments dont do it for me.
She called black features gorilla like that’s racist. It’s inexcusable no matter her art style.
@@joelle4226 shes racist without even knowing tbh. issue really lies in what she defines as beautiful, which is korean standards, not even asian since asian consists of indians, malays, chinese and many more.
@@kikkuqisame here. I feel like while yes, the tutorial was racist I feel like the tutorial really wasn't the biggest problem but the art fixing because it's literally her forcing her biases onto another artists work and quite literally blatantly calling the features of a perfectly fine black woman wrong.
Especially since black women have historically been shamed for their features so to see an artist literally "correct" perfectly fine features because it's wrong and present her eurol/east asian centric standards as being better feels a lot more racist then the tutorial could have ever been.
Some people might say that not all black people look like this and that’s fine, but most need to remember that society hasn’t actually welcomed us into its depth with all our authenticity. Which is why we still have to pass laws to wear our hair out, why we were pushed into decrepit neighborhoods and why we’re still deeply mistreated for looking “too black” in the wrong spaces.
There’s a very filtered image of us that gets to be famous or be influencers, which is black people with smaller or more so acceptable features. We have full wide black features, we came from the heat. We DEVELOPED this way, there is a minority of black people who have small, Eurocentric features being painted as the majority for a very insidious reason (no shade to them).
pretending like they’re the majority is being willingly obtuse and feeding into an idea that is already realistically hurting our community. Let’s not play stupid, she’s a South east Asian woman and she’s specifically attracted to East Asian features. She’s bound to discriminate against full, wide ethnic features, they are the anti-thesis of what she finds attractive and beautiful. It’s okay to admit what is already a reality.
she is prejudice against features that belong to a certain people. If you’re willing to consider sides that defend her or let her off the hook, be willing to open your mind listen to black people who have to live under the very REAL microscope for having these features if you actually give a shit. Otherwise keep it moving y’all. Remember, Not ALL black people, but MOST black people have full features. Keep it a buck!
EDIT::: ALSO! Key note? if monkey and gorilla comments originally came about to be RACIST toward black people and to dehumanize us… what do you think that makes her if she was caught mimicking the same kind of rhetoric? 🙀 yeah.
RIGHT
I honestly never think if Kooleen is racists at all, I think her jokes is actually for the sake of being funny, not like being serious,
I doubt if she even knew if black people have features like that (not trying to ne rude)
@@chibi_okamiyeah well it harms real people whether you like it or not, you’re defending a women who’s grown with a developed brain. She knows that everything she says will have real consequences if they push boundaries of real things. The only people who can joke without consequences are people who are children with undeveloped brains. Are you even black, and if you are, are you an educated black person? Because as far as I know this is black business, because she was talking about BLACK features, so you don’t get to decide if what she did was offensive or not because it will never, and I mean NEVER affect you. Not a day in your life will it ever harm you, this ignorance that she portrays. If it wasn’t as bad as you guys say, then why did she delete it from her video? She knew what she was doing, just because you guys can’t see it doesn’t mean it isn’t reality.
@@chibi_okami you know who else loves hiding under the satire blanket? Google CZcamsrs Colleen and EDP . Yes child predators whos fans believe that they’re just being funny or having jokey jokes with children.
In koolens videos there are so many people saying “yeah she said something racist but she didn’t mean it and she apologized 🥺” no she knew what she was doing, and ofc she apologizes on twitter of all places? She doesn’t even make an effort on any other platforms and again lmao but there’s so many other things she has done. Like her art “advice” advice isn’t even advice it’s just her turning others art into her art style, art advice is when you give lighting advice or angle correction not changer their whole head anatomy 💀 and she ain’t even doing the anatomy right. If she doesn’t even know how anatomy works she shouldn’t be giving tutorials and criticizing people who do know how anatomy works 🫡
Kooleen kinda icked me when I used to stumble on her videos when she called some drawings ugly or said that she doesn’t draw “ugly people” and all that obsession with making all the characters hot (conventionally attractive) didn’t really sit right with me so I didn’t watch her. I feel like you can have a lot of variety in your characters and they can be hot just not in one way that she seems to do all the time (lean, muscular, fitting the beauty standards and stuff). Turns out the situation is even worse than I thought :(
As a black person thank you for making this video. Forward lips and jaws are features seen mainly on black people, and some other poc. I don’t understand why she thought it would be okay to say it looks like a gorilla.
When I first found Kooleen it took me a week to find her annoying and unhelpful, I love to draw diversely and so her tutorials on the same copy paste people with a strong case of same face syndrome were extremely unhelpful. She refuses to accept that there are different types of art and different types of styles (I am already against the 'better' artists fixing others art thing so the changing of the face, the most important part of a person really made me mad) Though within the same week of discovering Kooleen I was also introduced to Rin, at first I thought they would be very similar until the more I watched of Rin the better the advice was. Rin's advice is not only helpful but diverse (including with stylized art and more realistic art) so after I decided to drop Kooleen which honestly is a much better decision to me. I am a proud little blind mole.
9:05 I agree with this because she’s chronically online and she uses aave multiple times “yassified” “slay” etc words that came very popular from black CREATORS and went viral as a word. You’re telling me you know what that means and say that and you have never even seen a black person with curly hair use edges aka baby hairs. Even the Asian idols use baby hairs sometimes. What the hell is “four eyebrows” smh.
I’m younger than her and I still know what edges are. It’s pretty popular so I expect her to already know what it is but instead she makes an unfunny joke about it 💀
You have one on the cutest voices I've ever heard omg and you're so pretty
I remember a teacher telling us to be careful about tutorials because we might be learning that person's mistakes. Btw, i recommend jackie droujko if you want an art review! she respects the art style and focuses on anatomy and technical points
Thank you for your recommendation, I'll definitely check her channel. Wait, she was the one who did fantastic job on "Bang bang - animation"?
It’s fine if you don’t want to draw black people, but when you *purposefully* try to “fix” black people art, and make it unrealistic is SO aggravating, especially to someone like me that is black. She first off doesn’t know what edges are💀 and she doesn’t understand how black people work, like she really tried to make the black girls lips smaller???. It’s FURIOUSLY AGGRAVATING. And I can say that it’s not just black people that have bigger lips, there are people around the world with bigger lips that poke out, and for some reason to kooleen that is considered “ugly” ok sure 🤷♀️
Also, there was a time she did one of those design-an-oc challenges. It was basically a vid that cycled through different variants of characteristics, like skin colour, hair colour etc. She initially landed on a light skin tone, but decided to choose a darker skintone to diversify her art. Sounds great, but when she actually made the drawing, the skin ended up several shades lighter and also quite grey, which did not match with the skintone she chose at all.
The drawing she liquified looked perfectly fine and way better than the liquified version😭
This whole ordeal reminds me of a tweet along the lines of "before any artist should be allowed to draw an elf, they should have to draw 100 normal people," essentially pointing out the fact that a lot of artists draw some beauty standard that no one actually looks like (and it's fucking boring). Like you said, it's almost impossible to never see poc, and just as impossible to see white people that look nothing like her art. Because it's not just "what white and (some) East Asian people look like", it's a that European models I know can't even fit into. You don't get like this through ignorance, it has to be a choice.
@@ashlyyap9439 she's based in the us
@@Ichigitchyyayadada even if she was, the US is still p diverse so that doesn’t help her case at all 😭
@@stripedpolkadots8692 I wasnt trying to?
I defended her with my life before but seeing this now... 😭 Bro why did she say that :((
SAME 😭
Lmao I never liked her at first place since I always saw these red flags, I mean just LOOK at her art, any art. And of course I don’t care what she drew, I only hated her because she was teaching wrong shit to youngsters and them always praising her and actually using her method.
Same here I'm regretting my life choices now💀💀💀
Honestly I’m just glad people are starting to realize how terrible her advice is
I’m guessing she said that because she ignorant and young. All she needs to do is just apologize and try to move on, and not repeat the previous mistakes.
Calling someone with a healthy bone structure (not a mouth breather, basically) a gorilla is insane
I actually discovered Rin from Instagram when she explained people’s mistakes drawing Hobie, like what his hair is or his facial structure and how to draw him correctly. I was immediately struck by her understanding of the differences in anatomies and really explained it so well, with the added sass and humour. Naturally she’s a great person explaining this topic!
I, I feel like she Kooleen just discriminated against everyone who has a “gorilla face” -- i.e. people who have more three dimensional facial features than your standard very east Asian person, where the only protruding feature is the nose. But Kooleen isn’t even doing that, she goes the "anime alien head bug eyes" route, or maybe the "webtoon oh no the face is sliding off the head” way describes it better, anyway, not realistic, very stylistic.
With apparently zero knowledge of perspective and head angles!!! That beautiful drawing of the black lady in the beginning, not only was her head shape more distinct, she was also tilting her head up. That naturally changes the effing angles!
Like, style is fine, but don’t go around claiming yours is the one true way and everything else is garbage! Every opinion is subjective, beauty is in the eye of the beholder, and “valid criticism” means f+cking opening your eyes and properly looking at what is before you!!!! And if she says “well I think it’s ugly” well f#ck, I guess she racist. The difference between “eww” and “not my type” is very big, okay...
EDIT: I realized that I didn’t express myself well, so I would like to add that her style specifically mirrors the way many Asian girls make themselves look after putting on makeup for taking photos and the photoshopping themselves (which I myself obviously don’t really appreciate).
Also, there are many “flawed” facial features like bigger/smaller/flatter/crooked noses, under or overbites, that high cheekbones hollow cheeks look, and so on. And this again comes back to subjective beauty - even then, some horror art can be beautiful and even attractive to certain people, and utterly horrific looking to others. After all, finding something beautiful doesn’t equal wanting to smash it…
Woah keep in mind that east asian beaty standards don't represent the 'standard' east asian people's looks
@@schnozz4301That’s also true! Whenever people draw East Asian people, they always make them look like K-Pop idols.
@@shirendjorgee9320 Well, yeah, what they're consuming on a daily basis-like only consuming junk food or anime/manga-does manifest in their art style or works of art in general. For this reason, many people advise stepping outside of such comfort zones. This includes drawing from hot, attractive models/people on Pinterest because the images posted there are carefully chosen and eye-catching.
fun fact too, the east asians you see in media are like fucking unicorns in East Asia. East Asians are actually very prone to jaw problems - for example underbites - which would meet koleen's criteria for "gorilla" face. It's not just racism, it's also (and i kinda hate this term due to the way its been used by certain communities) lookism. She abides by a given standard for her art, which would be fine if she didn't outright demean appearances that don't meet the criterion for that.
dude THIS. bc not even east asian ppl look like that. east asians tend to have flatter noses so if you draw a line like that it's gonna land like the "gorilla lookin" one.
As a person of color this makes me very uncomfortable. As an artist this makes me feel bad about my work. As someone who has a “anime art style” this makes me feel invalid. But this is the CZcamsr everyone swears by?? Can we stop platforming these degrading people?? Like this hurts man.
She isn't criticizing anime art styles, she is criticizing the artist's inability to draw different features that don't fit her beauty standard
@@xi6969I’m criticizing Kolleen. Not the Poster, sorry for the confusion
@@tsukitanuki101 oh sorry, my bad.
You’re so right! there’s ton of artist out there with similar art styles as kooleens who are able to adapt black/poc’s feature into their art. This is more of Kooleen’s poor skillset with diversity showing
you are so right because every art tutorial i see nowadays for portraits/faces are from the same creators who “don’t draw ugly people” and only draw thin white petite girls
ngl it's kind of refreshing to see other people agree about all the points made "against" her. I always thought something about her "teachings" were wrong but if you even MENTIONED it in her comments people would jump you💀💀
FR. I feel so safe in this comment section as I can get it off my chest without people bashing me
It's okay 😭😭😭 their fans are like fucking dick riders so it's understandable half.of them would fuck her forced mommy voice too 😭😭😭😭
I've waited so long for someone to point this out istg 🤦🏽♀️🤦🏽♀️
the only major problem with the black character side profile was the eye placement. it couldve looked better if the eye was just moved up. the rest of the anatomy did NOT need to be changed. Its not even "fixing your art/art tips" its just "draw this in my un-inclusive style" atp
Kooleen when people have a different art style: 😦😨😰😱😭
@@artificiallyill2123there's nothing to correct in anything they said, they were right
@@artificiallyill2123cry harder anime profile user
@@artificiallyill2123 anime profile user cry harder. Always have terrible opinions and age 13-17. Cry harder
@@artificiallyill2123thats the point of the comment? Like tf did you expect on a kooleen critique video, people praising her?
@@artificiallyill2123 They always use that when they have nothing good to say lmao just ignore them
has kooleen just never talked to or made friends with black people in her life. like it baffles me.
I think she's actively avoiding them tbh.
she ignored the whole allegations and just posted a video..😭
Yeah that's just gonna make her look worse 💀
stage 2. ignore all allegations while googling ways how to apologize and pull a colleen ballinger
@@HighProteinPowder Kooleen is Colleen... similar name, both problematic. except idfk which one is worse, racist or pedophile.... but Colleen is also racist so
Cry
She apologized and took down the viedo. What the F do you mean
I feel like this situation also reveals the eurocentric aspects of art tutorials
Especially if it's in a more semi-realistic style, yeah
i personally watched kooleen and stopped as soon as i grasped the fact that she draws the same people and essentially excluding poc. i myself am mixed (technically a poc) and enjoyed rin’s tutorials that were more inclusive and provided some insight on features and hair (unlike kooleen). soo i’m 100% rin’s little blind mole and not at all kooleen’s clout chasing clown :) please look at what people say and how they act before you go out and defend them with your whole chest.
(Edit: I’ve been getting a lot of steam for saying this. I am Cuban, African American and White. Born in America and i claim no political party. I want my people to be featured in art, but folks can’t express anything without others twisting it. Stop trying to make me out to be a racist. i’m muting my notifications for youtube now. -_-)
@@Lilipad08 don’t think this applies to kooleen considering her attitude towards certain things as well as remarks, that alone is not at all the problem people have with her. A LOT of people draw within their comfort zone that’s not the CORE issue. Another aspect is that kooleen is openly giving advice to a younger audience that is quite harmful. Also personally as far as handling skin tones it’s not that hard at its core, if you need to grab a pallet or even just ask that’s what matters as well that you’re aware of the fact it’s not your strong suit imo
@@Lilipad08We hear you but just make sure to do more research about poc just in case you ever get a commission
i have a wonky nose and paper cut lips, that’s part of myself, it’s horrible that i see artists saying drawing humans like exactly that… humans… with imperfections?? is “wrong”.
@@Lilipad08 100% respect your opinion on this but as a fellow artist and Asian American myself I really don’t understand the argument of having a “personal experience” to explain why some artists tend to stay away from drawing darker skinned characters and/or features common to POC. We know they exist. It’s not like they’re fictional characters. And I know that probably wasn’t the point you were trying to make, but I’ve seen a lot of viewpoints take a stance similar to yours that excuses the lack of character diversity for not having a personal experience with it. I believe you don’t need to have an “experience” (for lack of a better term) whether it’s proximity to POC or whatever. And I definitely don’t think not drawing POC makes a person racist either. Honestly it doesn’t have to be that deep, but the excuse of not being around POC to explain why an artist does not draw POC is kinda baseless. That’s just my opinion though, and if you disagree then we can agree to disagree!
i agree with you but “excluding poc”? she usually draws asian characters, who are poc
People saying it's anime art. Bro anime has black people like Onyankopon from aot, some are from bleach( i don't watch bleach but i know from tiktok ok) and Hunter x hunter, promised neverland , jujutsu kaisen and more. Also Isayam's art style is imo one of the best ,one they don't follow generic anime doll type art( that kooleen fans say) aot characters all have unique noses and features. Is kooleen also gonna dismiss Isayama's art cuz it's not conventional or fits in her tutorials.
Also i used to watch her tutorials and she always draws either pretty white or asian people. It's not wrong. But to fit drawing of black person's profile in that anatomy( which in fact isn't right) is racist. Black people and south asian( i am an Indian) yes ,we have different features and face shapes . There is no perfect side profile. She says she is teaching art but stick to only one race like does other race not exist?
Also i think 'fix art' vids generally are not good cuz art isn't supposed to be perfect, it is supposed to convey message , emotions and meaning. Art could be disproportionate and different. That's the essence of art. If you're learning anime/manhwa artstyle it's okay. Watch vids featuring real anatomy. And perspective not some artist who does'nt know anatomy herself. No offense to anyone but kooleen this one can't be overlooked. 'Gorilla looking' i have a lil bit of underbite, my lips protrudes a bit, so acc. to her I'm not fit in anatomy or people with noses other than button just don't exist. That's just wrong on so many level. Hope she understands one day. Also she is quick to response to roast but won't say anything about this, now that just says a lot.
im literally asian (south east asian just like kooleen is) and according to her tutorials im anatomically incorrect 💀