The Michelin Pilot Sport 4S Is Simply The BEST Ultra High Performance Summer Tire On The Market!
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- čas přidán 20. 08. 2024
- Everyone really liked the previous Michelin review on the LTX, so I thought I would bring in a few more Michelin tires to review and look at, starting with the Michelin Pilot Sport 4S. The Michelin Pilot Sport 4s is simply the best Ultra High Performance Summer Tire on the market and you're about to find out why! This tire is an update from the old Michelin Pilot Super Sport which at one time was the benchmark!
The best applications for the Michelin Pilot Sport 4S include high end BMW’s, Mercedes AMG cars, Porsche, Chevrolet Corvette, Ferrari’s, and any other car that you need the ultimate level of performance.
This is very much a maximum performance tire built from lessons learned in endurance racing. But it comes with some need to know details which I cover in the review.
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Price doesnt matter, if it can help you brake 1 second earlier and you save your kids life or some pedestrians life then its paid its worth in gold
Ive had these on my Mk7.5 Golf R for nearly 2 years now, totally amazing tyre, crazy grip and they wear really good.
All year round ? Rain , summer etc .
You cannot run them in the winter. But I agree with his statement. MPS4s is an amazing tire that hooks like a m'f even in the rain! I've had them on my MK7 GTI for about 3-4 years. And am on my second set. They're about done so I will be purchasing a third set soon
this makes me confident cuz i just bought some. i do change tires to a winter set. wanted to ask, how many summer miles have you total on those tires at the moment and are they still great?
Good to know. Have them on my C63 S
I have the exact same car and debating between these of firestone indy 500 but after doing a bit of research I think I’m gonna go with the michelin
Man this dude knows EXACTLY what he's talking about. I have a 2018 C63s that had the Sport Cup 2's. Yes, they gripped but were absolutely dangerous in even slightly wet conditions. They also wore out very very fast. After that (and I do have the staggered setup) I went with these and it's a whole different level. Even more grip and I notice my traction control doesn't kick in nearly as much and I can launch it off the line better. Also, I've driven the car in real hard rain and didn't even notice any skittishness from the tires at all. Everything he said was spot on. These tires are worth every penny in my opinion and I've put them to the test on the C63s. I might even put them on the GT-R.
Nice
I'm trying to get new tires for my tune q50 redsport,I currently have hankook v12 v2s and they spin even at 45mph,I'm pushing 475 torque,would this help me fix that?
@@Legitshooter i wouldn't doubt it. The right tires make all the difference and these are the best in the market that have wet grip.
Yup. I am hearing the same thing on the MBWorld forums. I have a '17 AMG C63s Stage 1 and I just ordered a set.
255/35/19
305/30/20
Super excited
So these tires ain’t good in the rain?
I bought a pair of Michelin PS4S for my Porsche Cayman a year ago. They've been great for me so far and I can use them year round since I'm in Texas! They're aren't cheap, but they weren't ludicrous either, especially compared to actual track slicks.
I run MPS4S on my 2001 BMW 740i Sport. These are truly God tires, driving in rain with these tires in a heavy car like the e38 that was really built for the Autobahn is an experience, the car and tires were just blowing past everyone like it was dry out. I live in ATX and most of the year when they warm up they are like glue but if it gets below 40 F they start acting weird.
Atx🤘🤘🤘
Driving on these tires since 2015(second set put on 2 years ago) best tires ever I’d say! (had pzero before these)
Good to hear. Thanks!
I'm confused. The 4s wasn't around in 2015. The 4s is the successor to the Pilot Super Sport.
@@zacharydellamano7199 You’re right, I meant to say that Im using the same model for 5 years, its actually late 2016/beginning of 2017 when I got
I just got my brand new '22 Q60 RS 400 AWD today and the tires arrived 30 minutes later! (255/35ZR20 ) Going right over in the morning to have them put on! Can't wait to put them to the test!
Perfect for florida roads year round. I have an 2018 Charger Scatpack and these bring out the best in the car especially at high speeds
I have these on my 660whp zl1 and they're awesome. Just found a nail in mine which won't be repairable but I'm buying another rear set
That shit sucks so much that we have to replace both tires from a jail. Chicago is full of them.
Bought a set for my G12 M750ix , drives soo much better than Pzeros previously. Grip, handling, taking off line, is spot on. The beamer wants to keep going faster, even stepping off the pedal its gliding so slowly trying to slow down.
The hot weather in FL, make the tires stick like glue to the asphalt. Highly recommend!
Fantastic breakdown on exactly WHY these tires are the best. I ended up buying these for my Porsche Cayenne GTS over the Pirelli P Zeros. Gonna finish out my last winter here in Colorado with the Pirelli Scorpion Winter tires then I’m moving to Florida and will be able to run these year-round rather than for just part of the year in Colorado.
Thanks for your honest review after debating on several brands Toyo Sumitomo Kuhmo Hankook and I’ve decided these are worth the $
Yes they are.
Just got these for my golf R, amazing the difference in sound, and cornering grip over the stock continentals it came with.
Awesome! I love the Golf R.
Less road noise?
@@jonsdaniel id say a bit better. Also way better over harsh bumps
I actually have Eagle F1 Asym 3, Michelin PS4 would be less noisy?
Recently got this for my 2020 BMW M340i and its a night and day difference when it came to ride quality and grip compared to the Bridgestone Turanza RF tires it had.
How is the noise level?
This is all I use on my Porsche Cayman GTS. Expensive, but well worth it. I get about 12,000 miles out of a set before the car needs new shoes. Live high in the Blue Ridge Mountains with plenty of winding roads..many twists and turns but oh so much fun!
Mightve seen you on the Shenandoah parkway in 2019? Was in a volvo wagon cruising it and came up on a nice porsche 911 in blue at the rest station.
Just had these installed on my '19 STi. Probably overkill since it's my daily and I don't track it, but I sure look forward to breaking these puppies in.
They should bring the car to life in the corners.
245/40-19R front. 275/35-19R rear. 2005 E46 M3 with 9.5" and 11" wide wheels.
Not as sticky as 100 treadwear street tires, but they last 4 times longer.
I take corners on exits on the highway with these on my Model 3 Performance. I can do 70-90mph on exit ramps without budging. The G force on these tires is scary because you hold up at high speeds without knowing it.
Nice review! Now if I only had the Porsche 911 to go with those tires!
Lol. Me too!
I ended up finding this review because I do have a 21 911 (992 C4S) and I have been a Michilen fan for a decade now. Michilen does not make the PS4 in O.E. size 245/35/20 , 305/30/21.
I am looking at going with the 255/35/20 , 315/30/21 PS4s. My dealership believes these will work in theory in replacing the O.E. Perillis but, have no direct experience in doing so. Are you aware of anyone running these PS4s in 255/35/20 , 315/30/21 on the new 911 (992) ?
For anyone trying this tire for TRACK or Driver Education and are intermediate to expert, I did 4 (20 min session) on my first time with this tire. The traction was really good, last session, the outside left front which was getting most of the abuse that day delaminated the outside tread. Now that said, I think this might be partially my fault, outside temp. 85 started with 33psi in fronts, the tires went all the way to 47-48 psi when I got them hot on the track and I think with the pressure and how hard I was abusing they either failed because they were out of the operating ranges or it could of been defective. I check tread depth and I'm already half way through the tread life in one day. Grips good, tread life not so good. If your not tracking at all, was great tire for spirit driving and did do great in wet roads. I'm going to try out the Pilot Cup 2 next. Not planning on going at speed in the rain if I get caught in a small afternoon storm will just drive slow or pull over for a coffee.
Your pressures were too high! If you're doing track driving, normally the aim is to have somewhere in the region of 30-35 psi when HOT. 47-48 psi is failure territory under track conditions, but you should ask more knowledgeable track experts
Just put a set of these on my F22 M235i. I love them so far! Awesome tires.
Right on!
Put the all season version on my 2013 Honda Accord EX-L V6. Transformative from the stock primacy tires. Made the car actually fun! I can imagine what these would have done for summer use.
Thanks for sharing!
I have primacy in my Camry but I wanna try this ones since I found the primacy very price for what they’re
I have been waiting for this review. Awesome Thanks, I will be putting a set on my car.
Glad it was helpful!
AWESOME! Just picked up a set for my car and now I feel even better about my purchase. Thank you and much appreciated.
Spot on review! What an incredible tire! I have these tires on both of my cars and one of those cars is a Honda Civic Type R. This is the tire that should have come with the car in the first place.
Putting these on my stage 3 GTI next week. Cannot wait to be able to put the power down!
Did it help?? Looking for tires so i dont just spin in my gti ahaha
It definitely makes a difference compared to the lower end summer tires I had. I have the LSD so not sure how it would handle without the performance pack
I just bought these for my Mercedes E53 AMG Coupe. I read a lot of reviews comparing these to the Pirelli’s and these came out miles better. I will keep you all posted on my own personal opinion on them.
Just got them on my 2010 Civic si sedan. Can't wait to see how they are on the windy roads !
had these on my mk6 gti... easily the best tires I've ever owned!
Awesome car!
Since I use these. I never go back to Pirelli. I drove with Pirelli P Zero 4 for just only 1 year and it was worn. I drive with Michelin Pilot Sport 4S for 2 years and the tires are still good
Just picked them up for a 2013 Maserati GT. They seem like a softer ride than the P Zeros they replaced in the rear but the grip on these might actually be better
Cool. Keep me updated.
Which p zeros were you running?
I put these tires on my 2019 Nissan 370Z sport to replace the OEM Bridgestone Potenza S007 tires. My only complaint with the tire is that the sidewalls are much less stiff than the Bridgestone's sidewalls. This has resulted in a more comfortable ride with less harshness but the tire is less precise and more vague in its handling. I believe this tire is better suited for a GT touring type of car where comfort is important. For my car and for the kind of driving that I like to do, a more responsive tire is better.
I had to increase my tire inflation pressure about 11 psi over what I used in the Bridgestones to compensate for the increased flexibility of the MPS4S tires.
Wow. Thanks for the feedback!
You know. I have a 2018 370Z and I was looking to get the S007 but they no longer sell them. Tirerack has them as a special order and they told me it could take months before they even make them. I bought the Pilot Sport 4S. They just arrived yesterday and I will be installing them this week. I hope they give the same performance as the s007. I would’ve bought the same ones but the next best thing were the Michelin’s. Maybe they will get stickier with time regardless of the sidewalk.
I also have a 2019z with these tires. If you don't mind me asking, what pressure are you running.
@@uswee I'm running 44 psi in the front pair and 49 psi in the rear. I measure my tread depth every 1K miles and adjust the tire pressures accordingly to achieve even tread wear across the width of the tread. It took we quite awhile to zero in on these pressures, as I would nudge the pressures in 1 psi increments each time. Another side benefit is that the higher pressures suit my driving preferences, with a firmer and better controlled ride with the tradeoff of a little more ride harshness. I had previously installed a set of Hotchkis anti-roll bars on the front and rear to stiffen up the suspension a little more and improve turn-in response, again with the sacrifice of some more ride comfort.
Thank you for sharing your knowledge. I have only had the car since June of 2021. It had kw3 suspension when I got it. Plus the Michelins. I haven't had much of a chance to make adjustments but your input will definitely give me a starting point
I got these on my M5, best tire ive ever used tbh
Is this still the case? What other performance tires have you used?
@@carterlongcor3233 yes what else have you used ?
Just picked these up 235s for my gr86. Excited.
Maybe i drive wrong but i all but destroyed a set of these in a season in japan in a 3200lb AWD car. Bout 280hp. But it was absolutely worth it.
Got these on all my cars, my Sti, evo 9, s15, zl1, and gt350
My new M3 should be coming with these tires. Never driven them before, looking forward to that!
im having a set installed this week. im looking forward to it though its freezing lol.
Great review - just picked up a set of these for my '05 Dodge Viper and so far I'm really impressed.
Got them on my mk7 gti and they grip like crazy even with a stage 2 tune
Nice
Great review Matt I might need to put these in my M3 when it needs new sneakers!
You should!
I went over 100 mph on a highway corner, these tires had so much grip but over time my speeding tore these tires apart. I didnt crash but when I looked at them recrntly, I was surprised I didnt get a blowout. Really good tires but you gotta take care of them and drive safe.
Right now I'm running sentury UHP tires cuz I'm too broke for Michelin ps4 anymore
Best vid I’ve seen over these. Gonna buy them for my m550 Xdrive
a true gem. saved my life from a deer too.
Awesome!
literally felt like I was on rails. Just pure reaction time and I saved it. Glad no one was around me and I was on a 2 lane highway @@CampusautoCo
I live in Florida so it’s always summer here. My Porsche Cayman has a set of these on 20 inch carrera rims. The tires are the best
Very cool!
Certainly will be my next tire choice for my STI!
Will be switching the Super Sport on my M2c for these
Love the intel my friend!
Thanks!
Excellent video, this guy's easy to listen to!
These are great in the rain and not bad in ice -5 last yeah and these did fine
-5 holy smokes! Glad they handled well for you.
@@CampusautoCo yeah not the best but never felt unsafe … Uk weather sucks but that’s the best all round tyre over here everyone uses them
Just got these for my Macan S and I’m hypeeed. Putting em on 21s.
Keep it up Matt Great Review 👍
The Vermonter
Thanks!
Have these on my civic type r they’re so good wet and dry
Awesome!
This summer I will get my third set of these in 235/35/2019 for my beloved MK6 TDI...Amazing tires...I think I only get 20k miles (30k km) at max out of them though...The side walls can get some bublles if you hit a pothole VERY HARD...Last summer, we were on our way back from Toronto to Montreal and I hit an indentation on the interstate at 110-120 km/h and I thought the tire must have been seriously damaged, but, except a little buble on the sidewall, Nothing srious happened to it..The rim (VW Cadiz 19 made by Borbet in Germany) got a noticeable dent (Nothing major though)...That rim was refurbished, so it was not at it's maximum strength...If we can get 30k miles with thses tires like it's claimed by Michelin, they would be an excellent bang for the buck, but I am still happy with them...Now I have to fork out 1679.74 CAD$ to get a set compared to 1536.97 CAD$ in 2021 (a 9.3% incease in 2 years becuase of inflation!). There you have it folks from a real life & repetitive consumer!
I’d like to see you review the Nitto NT555 G2
Just got these for my 2016 RS7 this is some real good info that I didn't know about thank you! Is 20 degrees the cut off anything above that is game?
It's either these or the Nitto Nt5 g2s, most likely going go to with the Michelin I think it's worth the extra 200ish
I’m sad to say that these tires only lasted 11000 miles on my amg gt53. :(. To get thee same tires is costing me $1800 that’s just crazy that every 11,000 miles I have to spend $1800 dollars. Unfortunately they are staggered too. So I can’t rotate. Maybe cross rotate is all.
I have this tire on my G80 M3 and it’s a great tire.
Super review, as usual !
Thank you! Cheers!
I just installed these tires on my Tesla Model 3 Performance. I had no idea they were this well regarded by performance experts. I kinda feel I went overboard now. Lol. I was just looking for tires that would be a good fit for my car. Lol.
I'm curious to see what my acceleration will feel like with these tires.
How has It gone? Which year do you have and what tires were on originally? I have a 2022 M3P and it came factory with Perelli P zero PZ4, they were nuts when they were new but looking for replacements soon.
@@carterlongcor3233 So far, so good. I have a 2022 M3P. One complaint I have is that they're noisier than the Pirelli P-Zero that came with the car. The reviews I read and watched said the Michelin Pilot Sport 4S were quieter than the Pirelli P-Zero. In my experience, the Pirelli P-Zero was quieter from what I remember.
It gets quite noisy at speeds of around 65mph to 70mph on certain types of roads. I do a lot of driving and so far it's holding up pretty good. It's not wearing out as fast as the Pirelli P-Zero but then again I'm not flooring it as hard as I did to the Pirelli P-Zero and I haven't taken to the drag strip either.
Good to know mostly on staggered setups mine are not they‘re 235/35 but i still prefer Cup 2 for track use if not Cup 2R but for spirited street use (if you want also track use)and canyon ripping they‘re killer!!
Awesome video - thanks !
great review, awesome tire, have a set and getting another!
Good choice!
Is it true that is a summer only tire. I thought they were all season tires? Thank you
@@EEEBA1 summer only for sure. These will get destroyed in the cold
@@crazysamz Ok. Thank you.
great tire ... if you are not going on the track (Sport Cup 2) these are the best tires ... although the Continental tires are just as good and the all season Continental is a better tire than the all season Michelin..
Thanks for the review. How do these compare to the pilot super sports?
Im stupid… and I drove mine till they were slicks and they did great with normal driving even then. I got 50k miles out of my set 😮😮… no joke the tire shop was like 👀👀
Thankful.
Changed oem run flat to Michelin A/S3+ wow what a difference
Just scooped these for my mclaren.
Thoughts on continental extreme contact sport?
Coming soon!
hello sir
Do you think this Michelin Pilot Sport 4S NO is suitable for a BMW x5 m50i 2020 ??????
315 30 r22 2021
285 35 r22 2021
Love your channel, new Subscriber.
Welcome aboard!
How do you feel about the Michelin Defender?
Hi Matt. Thank you for this video. Do you know the pilot sport 4s comes in SUV size as well? 285/35/22 106Y. Or does michelin make an equivalent tire for performance SUVs?
Toyos people loveeeee me two. Up to 750 hp there great and look good. My zl1 1le has r888r 345 rears they hook!!! And okay in the rain. A lot of people do MPs 4s front Toyos rear and they SWEAR BY IT if your not tracking the car it don’t matter
My 2018 Mustang GT uses these.
Awesome!
She got the Michelin grip when I 🫣
I have a 2011 Grand Sport with Pilot Sport A/S3 Tires. Are these Pilot Sport 4S tires quieter than the A/S3??
Should I go with these or the all season Michelin pilot sports I have a fully modified 2018 bmw 330i
Depends on if you live in a area of the country that has cold winters. If not, you can run this tire year round. If so, I think you need to either get these and some snow tires or choose an All Season tire High Performance Tire.
@@CampusautoCo I got a 2009 BMW 650i sport coupe with full Dinan aftermarket parts I live in Ohio but I won’t be driving the car in the winter at all. Can I get these then?
Have you ever seen the Milestar Patagonia XT?? Its pretty cool looking, you should do a review on it. There are no reviews on it anywhere on CZcams.
I need to get one to review.
Car is almost done having these put on, compared to the general g max RS’s that were on. I’ll give an update afterwards.
Would these be a good choice for a 2021 BMW G30 daily driver? Mostly city and weekly highway?
Thanks for the video. I have a question, do these grip really good when launching a car?
Yes they do especially when they are warmed up but its not really a drag tire.
I brake boost my C63s off the line with them and traction control does kick in briefly but honestly they grip pretty well considering. I got 516ftlb of torque and they handle it. mostly.
I have a question for owners of these tires. I have a 2020 Hyundai Elantra gt n line, I want these since I live in Tucson AZ and rarely does it ever go under 40-30F so I should be good in the winter, even better in the summer. Thing is I do a lot of Doordash. So does the tread go away fast? I drive around 150-200 miles a day in the city. Would you still recommend these tires or not? Not saying I’m smashing the pedal all the time but when I do I want to be ready haha. So please let me hear your thoughts and opinions or other tire recommendations etc.
This is too much tire for you. Try the Continental Extreme Contact DWS06+.
@@CampusautoCo thanks for the recommendation I just saw your review on the continental and I like them too they can still handle my car’s performance when needed and also other reviews stated the tread last a while and I get all season tires if needed for traveling I’ll definitely look into some. Thank you again.
I have a GTI performance, are these the best for me? I don’t race just for the road.
I would get the Continental Extreme Contact DWS06+
I just bought the all season pilot sport 4 to replace the OEM Pzeros on my mustang gt. I'll hopefully get the car back tomorrow to test it out, though it's not true apples to apples because I moved from 235s to 255s.
How did it turn out? I also did the same on my Porsche, but found that my confidence in turns weren't the same as the Pirellis. The Michelins ride nice and have good traction, but I find that I don't go into a corner as fast with the Michelins.
@@thegrmcrckr488 which p zeros did you have?
I got thee tires today. It's a lot quieter too.
Would this be a good tire for both dry and rainy weather in a modded mk5 GLI (fwd) that is on lowering springs? I currently have Bridgestone potenza.. s001? (One of their sportier all season with softer compound) And those spin tires like nothing
just ordered these for my Cla 45 Amg
Nice. You will be pleased.
What can you do if you can’t rotate the front and rear tires? Can you swap the driver and passenger tire?
I don’t rotate in that case. You could do side to side but I don’t.
I have a 2021 widebody redeye hellcat charger
Bought some After market wheels , 20x11 in front and 20x13 rear
Can I do 315/35/20 and 345/30/20 PS4S’s?
I have a Kia forte and live in the Caribbean, the weather is hot, humid and wet. The road are a mess and I have to dive all day for work. Which tire do you recommend?
Thanks!
Would you recommend these or continental dws06 plus for a 2018 Audi Q5 premium plus package so they are 20’s
You missed AUDI’S
I'm thinking about getting these for my 14 Mustang GT. Yes? No?
Would you recommend this tires for a 2019 GTI or should I go for Michelin sport 4 all season??
It depends on where you live. I think that they might be overkill for a GTI.
@@CampusautoCosorry never saw this reply.. I’m in Miami
I was looking for new summertires for my Focus RS Mk3...I think I've found'em...
Good choice!
Just bought a 2019 Porsche panamera 4S. It came with 265/44ZR19 and 295/40ZR19. The mileage on the car is around 38300km and the tires seem to need to be replaced. Is there any all weather version of them? I live in Toronto, Canada so I need something good for the winter.