'No Blacks, no Irish, no dogs'
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- čas přidán 19. 01. 2017
- Photographer Charlie Phillips remembers arriving in England in 1956. In Notting Hill he faced Oswald Moseley, race riots and curfews - but there was also a white woman who protected him.
The image shows children on Lancaster Road in Notting Hill in 1962. © Charlie Phillips
From 'Private Passions' on BBC Radio 3 www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b0831bt2
My mother arrived from Kinsale, Ireland about the same time. She met my English dad and she lived until she died in Kent in 2021 aged 96. My dad is kind of lost without her he is 88 now. By the 1960s three of her brothers had settled in the UK two were merchant seamen. They are both buried there in London. A third brother died in poverty in the North of England. An Irish relative called my mum and told her a man with the same name had died up in Northern England his friend had seen it in the obituaries in that area. My dad called the police there and it was her brother. My dad paid for his funeral and they went up North for the funeral. My mum was the last of her family to die of 12 children. thanks to Brexit I am now an Irish citizen got my passport a couple of years ago. Now I am 65 it is the most precious thing I have ever owned. Ireland was put into me by my mum and it has been with me all my life.
My grandmother with my grandfather and mother moved to London also early 50’s from Cork city and remember her telling me about the no blacks no Irish no dog signs when I was a child in the 70’s. My mother now lives in Kinsale. I love Ireland and have been going over 2-3 times a year all my life. Kinsale has changed so much since the 70’s / 80’s as has Ireland as a whole. Two of my grandmothers three brothers were in the merchant navy as well, the other in the Royal Navy during the war, they may have come across your mothers brothers back in the day, small world
Well my grandfather Frederick Crean fought in the Sudan as a boy soldier, then in both South African campaigns. Then he was at Mons with the Irish guards all through WW1. Then he was in the Free state army fought throught the Irish civil war. He had a merchant seamans ticket also. Not sure about when he had been at sea. In between all that he was fisherman in Kinsale and on the Bandon river with my uncles catching salmon. They lived in a little cottage by water at Worlds End. Two brothers of my mum were drowned when their boat was run over by the en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kathleen_and_May by in Kinsale harbour. It was said to be an accident but the skipper on her mum always said had been drunk. When I lived up in Fort William in Scotland. In the late 1980s I was invited to a dinner with and Italian friend his guest was the daughter of the MCCarthy family who were neighbours and friends of my mums in Kinsale. Her parents had left also to England. We were gobsamcked when I mention my mum from Kinsale and turned out both families had been neighbours. It is a small world :)@@bobbiescrisps9208
I have a few cousins but don't really know them. I have one supposed to live in Kinsale so my cousin Mick from Kilkenny said but the last time I met that cousin was in 1965 so I honestly don't really remember much about him only going fishing catching little crabs sitting out on the dock near Worlds End St. John Terrace and the cottage my grandmother Emily (Ward) Crean still lived in I was almost 7 then. I never saw my grandad he died in 1955 and shortly after mum left and went to England.@@bobbiescrisps9208
Oh jesus, "thanks to Brexit". Ireland will follow Britain out of the EU in short course. "the most precious thing you own" get some self respect for god's sake
Dream on pal. Ireland will be staying in the EU because it knows it is far better in than out. The BREXIT fiasco in the UK is a good teacher to other nations. What not to do. I have plenty of self-respect. I also stay an EU citizen so that is the biggest bonus of all. And you will be waiting until the cows come home for Ireland to leave Europe.
@@OnlineEnglish-wl5rp
Now the sign just says
”no Irish”
in Ireland
It's perfectly normal for the Irish to resist mass immigration just as it was the British decades ago. People forget that Irish labour was used against the English and Scottish trade unions at a time when the bosses could say "if you won't take these wages, Paddy will". Marx wrote about it in 1870
The elites use continuous wars within nations, dividing neighbors against each other to facilitate endless migrations that keep the working class wages down, as well as increasing their taxes, migration does nothing for the economic welfare of the working class, it in fact keeps them poor, as the elites can use them for cheap labor they take in bigger profits and the government makes sure they get their tax breaks, as long as they get a cut of the profits…
Quite a racket
Is it just your memory or you do not know your own people's history, or you do not want to know because that might defeat your argument, Think back a generation or two when your own family emigrated to foreign lands Or are you one of the very chosen few who were very luck in life, ones who had enough and did not need to go abroad,
@@jamesbradshaw3389 This is emotional blackmail in the service of a policy which is not well-intentioned
@@jamesbradshaw3389
Irish history is in my blood, my very soul is Irish
Ireland in its primitive beginnings had a land bridge to the continent but after the global flood this connecting piece disappeared making it accessible to only seafaring peoples thus its early inhabitants also became seafarers/pirates and began raiding their closest neighbours who were historically the same people just separated by water therefore IrishScotWelshManx had been and continued to mix genetically for centuries, developing kingdom clans and their unique Gael/Celtic culture…the vikings Anglo Saxons Danes and Spanish late comers eventually added to the mix, all the world was already steeped in mythological fantasical stories of hybrid human gods and goddesses that eventually mixed with Druidism added more of its magical understanding of nature and its mystical powers….
But God /Jesus Christ had entered into His Creation and shook the world… all the religious tried to absorb His glory but could not and cannot,
At around the 4th century a boy named Patrick was kidnapped from the shores of a Romanized /Christian province in Wales who followed by a group of seafaring monks convinced the Kings and the druids that Jesus was their God…St Brendan, whose writings record of sailing to America, that also Iceland records confirm the visits of Irish monks to their shores long before the Vikings, and the existence of stone petroglyphs bearing Christian messges in Celtic script, prove that Irish Monks, travelled America as far as West Virginia during the 6th century…
And this is why Ireland is known as the land of saints and scholars, it was the Irish who preserved and spread Christianity and saved civilisation in the darkest of ages…
Irish must remember Jesus and their unique ancestral heritage
Irish made the richest of historical contributions in that they preserved the scriptures while the continent hoards were burning and pillaging through historys darkest age…
Rise up Irishman, remember Jesus, He is your God, no popes priests nuns know Him, they work for the Roman Empire satanicaristocracy that enslaves you….
still goes on today, seen many rental signs in london written in urdu or chinese or arabic, obviously no one can apply apart from the ppl the ad was targeted at. what they are saying is no blacks no irish no english no no one except OUR group. Absolutely commonplace to see those ads
Lol. What are you doing in england anyways. Get back to the slum you came out of. Dirty irish
The human species is tribal. Tribal organisation is the key to success. Only the British and Europeans have decided it is an evil. Something to do with Christianity and every human being of equal value.
@@elkpaz560 lol. Are you for real?
@@elkpaz560 I suggest you ask the Indians castes to speak to ‘the undesirables’ there. That’s real “tribal species’ At play.😮
Get your aerosol can out.
Phil Lynott with a pet dog, wouldn't have stood a chance.
Well played
Especially if the mutt was a black IRISH wolfhound ....😮
@@johnathandaviddunster38 It was a greyhound called Thin Lizzy.
My Dad was Irish, and we were brought up in Notting Hill. 1957 Ladbroke Grove. very different now.
My dad was Irish had a very hard time when he came to England.... he's best friend was backman bouth hard working brick layers... R.i.p dad and Albert never forgotten ☘️
my dad too Nee Mckenna and proud ,
@@eileenspamer what part of Ireland your da from
The Irish built Britain. Up in Scotland, they cut tunnels through mountains for the hydroelectric. In England, they built roads and housing. They were the heroes who really saved Britain. My mum's brother was a merchant seaman on oil tankers in WW2 and he was very lucky to survive those convoys. One of my mum's other relatives a seaman died in the London Blitz after docking with food for Britain.
❤️🙏
Your dear Dad and Albert are enjoying eternal p[peace in heaven their hard and bad sad days are over
Here in Montreal/Quebec/Canada the signs were the same. No Irish and no dogs.
Also no Jews.
Sad times. My Irish parents lived this as immigrants from Ireland in 1950s coming to Birmingham England. God bless 🙏❤️.
im Irish came here as a 7 year old it wasnt sad at all .we had a great time
@@MrTomomahony ❤️🙏
If they were so badly treated why did they stay?
Work
@@MrTomomahony In other words they were able to make lives here very easily and all this BS is just to demonise the British
It’s no myth my friend as an Irish man looking for a room to rent in the early 60s I saw this sign on the window of the house I view… it was very real
well statistically speaking if they avoided those there would be much less risk of bad things happening. So who can blame them really it's just common sense.
There's enough of you now though
Absolutely not a myth at all. "No blacks, no Irish" were common additions to rental adverts (often posted outside tobacconist shops) when I was an undergraduate in London in the early 1960s. This overt. racial discrimination was finally made illegal a few years later.
It is sad, that all these years later and there are still people, who think like this.
Well said!
Now they say no English openly , went for a flat share in London and was told she only rented to Italians the British not welcome , might do a documentary on the disgrace of acceptable racism in the U.K. today
I don’t believe that for a minute.
@@niriop why don't you believe that, it's not just private either it's the council. I hope that documentary gets made.
@@stuartheard4927 I need something like textual evidence, or a body of witness evidence.
Besides which: if it *really* happened, he could have reported her for violating multiple Equality Acts. I mean, he reads like the pernicious and spiteful type.
One hundred years ago in Hollywood California the signs said "No actors, no dogs.".
I was refused rental in the 1980s . Directly asked "oh are you Irish? Oh no you all drink too much "
Dont worry about that person, they had a warped and drunken mind
do you think plenty of irish ppl wd have refused rental to an english tenant too?
Which is kinda funny because Ireland is way down the list , like 12 or 13 for amount of alcohol consumption. I'm American but I've got an Irish father and an Irish maternal great grandparents, plus a bunch that arrived in the 1840s and pretty much nobody drinks in my family. We stick to Meth.😊.
I worked with an Irish lad who was told the same. You’re all drunks. He as a Baptist and his religion was anti-drink.
No pimp. No Harlott. No jez kyle. No drug dealers. No police. No woman no cry.
You are funny
I went to London from Belfast in the 1980s I saw the signs no blacks no Irish no dog's. I thought I was British because I was protestant brought up in Belfast. My mother lost two brothers in the first world war fighting for the British. My uncle was shot down in the second world war they don't mean me it's the Irish. But because of the troubles and the accent they did mean me at 18 years of age. I was never in the paramilitaries never planted a bomb didn't believe in any of the violence on both sides but the British thought we were all Irish even though my people had died for Britain. I was brought up educated to believe I was British went to London in the 1980s as a teenager. Learnt to walk around keep quiet my accent gave it away that I was from Belfast. Thought that Britain was one of the most bigoted countries in the world and as a woman in my 60s I still believe that. They don't need the signs now but it still goes on even though some are more understanding and the older ones feel guilty
The 1980's? Wow! Either that sign had been there for years - or someone decided to just put it there to trigger people, as the last time I saw such signs still in vogue were the early 70's.
And yet not one picture of the mythical sign exists, apart from the one that was fabricated in the 80's for an exhibition.
See how the Irish treat travelers...
I've watched that all of my life ,racists to our own😢
See how travellers commit crimes
See how the travellers treat everyone, there is often a sound reason behind most stereotypes
@@waynenash6008 Indeed
I heard of a fellow Norwegian being assaulted in Ireland when they heard where he was from, I guess because of the Vikings, because of what happened there 1000 years ago.
I remember in the late fifties myself and pal went to London from Ireland and we were looking for digs and I really don’t know how many times we saw the sign No Blacks No Irish and No Dogs but later in our search we came across a sign that said No Irish No Blacks and No Dogs and my pal said great things are improving we finally reached No 1.
The Irish help build the world, brilliant craftsmen back then and still today,💪💪💪💪
Now in Ireland... it's All Blacks and No Irish...
cop on.
Exactly !
😂
They are way too many Africans , Muslims and Asian's Ireland is being flooded we will be a minority in our own country let's all rock up to Africa see how they treat us let's us Catholics inter the Muslim countries and ask for a church can you imagine wake up fgs your country is sliding away from the Irish ppl at a very fast pace stop being too nice they see it as a weakness 😤😠😡🤬
Wonder what the think of the Paddy's and the biddy now....
These “no blacks, no dogs Irish, no dogs” signs *never* existed.
There’s only one photograph of one of these supposed signs, and it can’t be dated from before the late 1980s.
If you ever come to the U.S. come visit us southern folk.
We are extremely proud of our irish ancestors no matter how far back it goes. 😁❤️
Not to mention you can find loads of history that plainly states how the Irish / Scots and what we here call Scots-Irish came here and settled the south.
I believe we would not have had the south had it not been for these brave hard working men and women.
I thank God for y'all ❤️🙏
Plenty of Scottish Clans down South
@@martybourke2428 A Scots farmer who kept cows and chickens formed a clan called The Coo Clucks Clan.
@@DasTubemeisterlolololol...
Humm......it that the same South famous for lunching Black people 🤔
@@8track829 yup...that's us !!
As a photographer he must have took hundreds of pictures of the infamous signs in the windows.
It's the same photo every time, it first appeared in the 80s.
It's a lie put about by the Irish centre at London Metropolitan University and the picture they use is clearly photoshopped. As ever Paddy can't explain how hundreds of thousands of his brethren found accommodation if the English were so hostile.
But then some people love playing the victim don't they
@@Paul-eb4jp It was clearly photoshopped in the late 90s / early 00s
Rubbish. It was actually in only a very few.
@@denislaw8 It wasn't even a few, it's always the same photo.
In 1956 the country was still suffering from the war , there was virtually no council housing for the British who’d been through the war, and privately rented accommodation was basically slums, so people coming from overseas weren’t going to be top priority.
It's all lies made up in the 90s by the Irish Centre at London Met University. And in any case it's perfectly normal to only want to rent to people like you.
The fact people back then took photos of these signs in windows just shows how rare they must have been,
You are a none believer
What photos? The one printed in the Guardian was clearly photoshopped. It was made up by the Irish Centre at London Metropolitan University because demonising and smearing British people makes them feel better about themselves and their ancestors inability to fight
@@OnlineEnglish-wl5rpah look a brit. Of course the same deny it cos it makes them look bad boohoo. Fact is there's plenty of evidence of these notices includ thousands of testimonials from Irish Indian and Caribbean people not forgetting reports from the Race Relations Board and British academic studies from thec1950s and 1960s - long before some brits started to deny it
And they call us irish racist 😂😂😂😂
Even if we are, who cares. Irish people first. Ireland for the Irish.
There are two sides to every story. The people who saved Parlimentry sovereignty in two world wars, were not Parlimentarians nor was it the king. It was the four native people of thes islands with their blood sweat and tears.
These same people, whos forebears had built Britain an Empire were given no say in choosing the future destiny of the nation. Multiculturalism was Parliments choice not the peoples. That is the root of the resentment. Until that nefarious policy is recognised by the media and Parliment the country will never be reconciled.
say,
This was our life in Birmingham in the 60s.mix race and under pressure all the time.especially my dear mom and dad.
Then maybe race mixing is perhaps a bad thing do you think?
It's always been bad@@Eringobragh2024
Out of something nasty came something good. I'm London Irish, me Father was an Iron Fighter who helped rebuild London while The Windrush Men got London and other Cities Transport Systems up n running while The Ladies built and maintained our N.H.S and Schools. I was privileged to grow up n Brixton during the 60s n 70s . All the pubs were Irish or Jamaican. Can vouch the Guys T Shirt is worded accurately, that's what was in the 7 to a room B&Bs and even up to the 90's in Kings Cross You'd see "Know Irish or Travelers" in windows. Anyway we all mixed ok, I loved the Blues (under The Arches) most of all
Oooo
Mark Davis I grew up in the 60s/70s. I know exactly where you are coming from. Sadly the younger generation do not know, understand or appreciate this 😕😔🙁
No u ain’t Irish not even close
I was a little kid at the blues dance in people's house..late 60's. Remember it well, we would all be playing upstairs until we fell asleep at some point 🙏🏽
The blues were created by the English
No dogs? Outrageous!
It wasn't "no Irish" it was no Catholics. Be honest. Protestant Irish were welcome.
Even worse
I visited Shanghai in China a few years ago and similarly I learned that the Brirish built a park near the British Consul there which had a sign saying "No Chinese No dogs"! 🙃🤯
My father lived in London we were Irish and he said it was no dogs no Irish putting dogs before the Irish 😢
In 62 and I can remember seeing signs like that at geusts Houses of lodgings and I live in Liverpool England
surprised they had that in liverpool.. swear most there have irish roots
There was one on a big Victorian house on Edge lane Liverpool 7 circa 1965/70
@@jjmcnamara5236 I`m from Liverpool and of Irish Descent, my Grandmothers maiden name was O!Brian, we also have a large Caribbean community as well and sadly that is correct. Some people were very prejudiced even when it came to employment.
No you didn't
@@jjmcnamara5236 Because it never happened
Hardworking Irish and black people and the dogs on the streets were treated with the greatest nastiness and badness by some people in the good old UK, I had dogs come up to me and say we are animals but you Irish and black people are humans but you are treated badly like us animals are. I have to admit that the Irish got it a fraction better from time to time than their black sisters and brothers if the Irish did not open their mouths to talk they were not troubled but the moment they spoke they you were a Paddy or Biddys is some people's eyes, The black people had nowhere to hide because of their color. Thank God this bad behavior and sad times have mostly gone away
Your comment is moronic
Not a lot of people know that the Irish were enslaved along side the blacks in the west indies in the 16th century. A lot of the black women liked us so much they gave their kids irish names. In 2020 i saw an American black kid on tv. His name, Patrick Murphy. You can't get more irish than that.
Stop talking crap
@@wodens-hitman1552He speaks truthfully research it yourself.
5 sterling for the good Irish ☘️ 30 to 50 sterling for the hood blacks bc the Irish ☘️ couldn’t take the heat . Only place outside Ireland 🇮🇪 to have a National holiday for for ST Patrick’s day Montserrat 🇲🇸 in honour of their slave Irish ancestors. To hell or Barbados tells you about the mid 17th century Irish slave trade .
@@wodens-hitman1552 Read the book dummy. If you can read.
What you say is completely true, one of my nieces is married to a Jamaican whose surname is Sullivan
Im Irish/British and I don’t blame the English for being wary of the Irish as we do have a well deserved reputation for boozing fighting and wrecking the place. We are certainly not all like that but how are the English supposed to know the difference ?.
These signs are a myth put about by the Irish centre at London Metropolitan University. The picture they use is clearly photoshopped and no one has ever been able to find an actual physical example.
If the Irish found it so hard to find accommodation, how did so many end up staying here? Literally hundreds of thousands
Sure you dont - nothing like racist stereotypes
@@emcc8598 facts often offend.
@brianredmond4919 yeah especially racists
@@emcc8598 since when was Irish a race ?. English Irish welch and Scottish are the same “race” but maybe different cultures . Sounds like you have been indoctrinated with “the message”.
Yes, the Irish McAlpine Army built England after the war well into the mid 1965/70 period. The Irish worked hard and lived hard, most stayed in England and never returned to Ireland or immigrated to Australia or Canada and made a good life for themselves and 5heir families. Interesting, that the Irish assimilated into British Society unlike like the current boatloads of immigrants, who shall take over the country, elect a Government of their choice and the The Old Brits and the Christian religion shall be gone forever. Look around you, it’s already started.
My mum always said her family had Spanish blood. To be honest some of her family came out a little bit tinted. I think there is always a tendency for migrants to be insular first even second generation but slowly they get absorbed into a population. Maybe Ireland needs a bit of new blood but maybe not too much too fast. I mean racial purity is some NAZI idea that just does not work out. Racial hatred is more often a political tool.
In other words Irish labour was used by the British ruling class so British wages wouldn't rise - just like in the 19th century - and the Irish pat themselves on the back for it. Well done
Youse are forgetting a lot of the Irish had their land and jobs stolen by Brits and Scots planters ...they had no choice but to agree to work in England, some were even physically forced onto the ships.
@@OnlineEnglish-wl5rp My Irish family member, living in England, voted for Brexit, so that there would be no more Polish people lowering his wages. The irony.
@@fishyq5077 He was absolutely right to correctly analyse what the oversupply of labour was doing to his wages and housing costs. The point is that this was always the case and the British were right to question the importation of Irish surplus labour
As I remember the signs, it was: 'No Blacks, No Dogs, No Irish. I've often wondered, with our place on the bottom of 'The List' of the undesirable groups, were we more or less egregious, than those above us?
Saw the same in St. Mary’s Southampton 1960 and asked my father if being last on the list meant we were considered less bad.
Apparently the Irish weren’t white originally and that’s why they had that sign posted .. that is what I’ve read .. the Irish for the past few hundred years have mixed with the Anglo Norman’s. The most part that’s Irish is about 75% and most of Ireland is about 50% Irish - the rest is British
And then you woke up, those signs are an urban myth.
The signs never existed and it's bizarre why the Irish love to play the victim
@@brianfitzell1664 No you never
The signs was no blacks, no dogs, no Irish!
Absolutely no myth. Seen these signs as a child , early/ mid 60s Willesden, London) on tobacconists advertising boards.
Of course it's a myth, a lie to demonise ordinary British people by neurotic losers online.
Same here as a kid growing up in South London.
@@peterwilson5528 Pure lies from very strange men
No lies pal. That is fact.@@OnlineEnglish-wl5rp
Just because you don't agree with us does not make us strange. It makes you strange to think that. @@OnlineEnglish-wl5rp
Areas like Notting Hill are now ultra-trendy and very expensive !
If you're a back Irish wolf hound you got no chance 😂
No blacks, no irish, no dogs was A NEW YORK CITY thing as well! Irish family ended up there because of the potato famine and my side left to Australia after 10 years of NYC.
As they lived in houses built by the Irish, drove cars made by the Irish on roads constructed by the Irish! These days people proudly claim their Irish roots, one of the first times I noticed this was when Margaret Thatcher revealed at a dinner party that her great grandmother was from Kerry.
Also in Toronto.....last century.
Oh yea I believe that Canadian cunts have the same mindset as English cunts so ignorant
Yes, I experienced it, even in the early seventies when I went on motoring holidays up north and over to Scotland.
I would only rent to my fellow countryman too, tough shit
..gone full circle now......that was 60 years ago a look at how the poor working class were treated a few years before thst might put it in some perspective
Has not imperialism and colonialism a lot to do with this never ending topic?
Never ending for a reason . The UK only cleared the people killed in the ballymurphy massacre 2 months ago . Admit guilt and we can move on for all the different peoples . Otherwise you live bye your legacy
Exactly
it still existed in the 80s
Now its No Whites ?
In 1953/54 we had been living in Preston, UK but after my father died I (aged 3 or 4) remember walking the streets with my Mother (Irish) looking for accommodation "No Irish; No Children" (I'm sure there was "no children" but cannot be 100% on that point).
I understand my father died at 32. Mom had to do exactly the same because she was Irish and dad from Pakistan.
My mammy come over late 50s from Dungannon Ireland and saw same card in windows..it was no Irish no n igg as no dogs..we all God's children x
So how did hundreds of thousands of Irish manage to move here then if they couldn't get housing?
@@trayccox8223 Pure lies
They walked the streets like my Mother and I, until they found lodgings. No-one said every vacancy had those signs but nevertheless they dominated.
Ireland sign should say, IRISH ONLY!
May have been in a few places, but is now, for political reasons, completely exaggerated beyond all reality.
I'm a South Korean.
I've lived in the US for over 30 years & the Irish Americans are the most wonderful group of people I've encountered.
I've never heard of any Koreans disliking Irish Americans &/or Irish folks in Ireland.
There are so many YT videos of Koreans touring foreign countries.
You can easily find multiple videos of Koreans criticizing racism they experienced in England, France, Netherlands & Belgium, but you can NOT find one video of Koreans criticizing Irish folks or Ireland.
Irish folks have recently had a change of heart.
@@elkpaz560Wrong
The sad history is this, when my great grandfather came to the United States from Ireland, nobody wanted to hire him because they had the no dogs, no Irish, and I believe they had excluded other races, especially black Americans. The anti-Irish sentiment in the United States was pervasive. That’s why, it’s not always best practice to look at everyone is who is white and say you are colonizer, Irish Catholics never colonized any nation ever
no dogs is a bit extreme
yeh those signs were disgusting, I have no doubt back in Ireland the signs would have read "Blacks and English are Welcome!🤣🤣🤣
My grandmother was Irish . She was in property. She owned and rented out many terraced houses in Mamchester from the 1930s to the 60s. She was fine with "blacks and dogs"
But would Never rent to Irish .
I remember her saying they are always trouble !
A hard woman
Another racist brit
Have you not seen the movie, Blazing Saddles?
No Irish! 😂
That is funny :)
@@peterwilson5528 Thank you, chap. I'm a natural at it.
Keep up the good work ;)@@thevolsteadvolstead5942
You should practice a bit more
What the hell is wrong with dogs then huh?
Apparently like Irish and others in Britain they weren't "British" enough
Interesting to see the same old rcists are still hanging on
Oh dear never mind different times
Irish navvies and gypsy travellers were the targets of the No Irish signs. Some were associated with drunkenness and fighting. Hard to believe😂
And things by now no. Palestinians no serions
What are you talking about? England is overrun by eastern people...
White people are now a minority in the 3 biggest English cities...
It's more like 'No Whites'
I remember them days
One of the most persistent Urban Myths.! There is ONE pic of a sign reading
" No blacks No Irish " etc. An entire industry has grown up around that
one pic. The foundation stone of Victim Culture...and numerous academic
careers ever since.
Nah its much thecsame type of people who would try to deny what thenazis did to their neighbours - centuries of brutal invasion/colonised/ethnic cleansing by the English and later British Crown and rampant discrimination on those they treated as cannon fodder
Lots of independent reports on this topic including reliable *British* academic reports from the 1950s and 1960s not forgetting the 1000s of testimonials of those of indian and Carribean extraction who detail Irish were also discriminated against
And yet we have countless testimonials like the gentlemen in the video relaying that this not only happened but was common place in parts of Britain including reports from before the period of the photo held by the London Metropolitan University. We also have film footage of the types of signs which were common in the UK before the race relations act. Some don't like to admit it happened but then then what's new
Im gonna have a long shot and say that thats CASS❤
As Lenny Henry once said... if ur a Black Irish-wolfhound u had no chance!
I'm a 3rd generation Irish American. Happy that I am a millenial, I will tell all irish Americans that they should be the last white folk to be racist.
Sorry, actually a 4th gen Irish-American lmao
@Liam Adams Irish American. Ya ignorant twat.
Same, it's embarrassing to see racist Irish.
I am Irish and Ireland is one of the most racist countries in Europe, don't be a snowflake.
@@memetopia5130 Well they should be ashamed.
“ NO IRISH” came long before “ NO BLACKS” yet you don’t see the English white middle class and intellectuals , shouting about that abuse . I lived in the poverty of Ladbroke Grove/Portobello and Latimer Rd in slums, built over past, pigs slurry pits ,and which in his time, Charles Dickens referred to as “the worst slums in London” , in the 60’s and the communities lived together, dealt with differences and could of done without interference from outsiders.
You’re wrong. It was blacks as slaves long before the no Irish signs
@@taegotkash Slaves ?Who said anything about slaves ? If you look back in history, you will find that taking slaves, was a worldwide practice and that the slave traders in the African continent, were often black! The comment is on the underrepresentation of the fact, that English prejudice, was far more often aimed at the Irish than black people, during those times and long before, there were any black people in England !
@@taegotkash Irish were in england long before black people
Who compares oppression
Weirdo!
Stop comparing yourself to black people you’ll lose no matter the category
@@laoch5658 white washed history will destroy your mind ma’am
The Irish have a deep connection with black people, with many white Irish people living in communities in Jamaica and Barbados, for centuries and also black people being part of Ireland.
Around 50.000 Irish men women and children, known as the " dispossessed " ended up in the West indies, some went voluntary, others were forced. They went to work as labourers and servants on the vast Sugar and Tobacco plantations between 1650 and 1659.
Just Google, Irish slave owners . Tells a different story.
@@jasonallen6081 or
Black Slave Owners
@@stephensmith4480They went as serfs or convicts or bonded labourers.
@@patkearney9320 Yes I know.
The Irish have built and run the British empire and still do. Especially in Australia. I was born in Dublin, now my son runs one of the biggest engineering firms in Australia.
LOL "we were victims of the British empire" but we built it. What was the vastly bigger British working class doing while Paddy was so busy?
@@OnlineEnglish-wl5rp To be fair very few irish claim we built the british empire this lad is very much an exception
@@gallowglass2630 To be fair, that's because the Irish now portray themselves as being victims of the empire rather than a country which provided a huge bulk of its army and officialdom
Nobody asked
@@OnlineEnglish-wl5rpnah thats who the Australians correctly refer to as the whinging poms. The English and later brits were well versed in using those they colonised against each other having reduced entire populations to abject poverty. They did it in India Ireland large parts of the Americas and Africa notbing new there
Irelandstan now.
I don’t understand, why the dogs? 🙂
You accept the other two lol
They destroy property if not looked after.
You would have to ask the Irish activists who first mocked up this sign/photo in the 1980s.
@@davidpryle3935a its pryle the serial utube denier of what was not only recorded by those of Caribbean and Indian extraction but was also detailed by academics in Britain in the 1950s and 1960s
@@emcc8598 If the English start complaining about the “Brits out” graffiti that used to appear on walls all over Ireland, I’m going to blame you.
WHY DOES EVERYONE MAKE EVERYTHING ABOUT RACISM
SHOW THE FILM LET THE MAN TELL HIS STORY, YOU JUST RUINED IT , I'M SWITCHING OFF
1. Why are you in the comments section reading comments that ruin it for you
2. What do you mean "everything is about racism" .. is it though? And how does that affect your life? Apart from clearly feeling a bit uncomfortable
considering England sailed the seven seas and basically raided most mineral wealthy countries which were predominately ethnic non white ... it always surprised me this was going on
I think you gave the answer yourself. If you raid mineral wealthy countries how do you justify your acts? You need to believe or pretend that you are somehow better than they are and therefore entitled to take what is theirs. Racism is a way to resolve a moral conundrum.
@@omnivorous65 Back in the days of Britain going into many and various countries, t was eff all to do with race, it was resources and education about what the planet was. The mineral wealth of those countries wasn't developed properly. Had Britain, France and Spain not gone to those countries the world would be much poorer and far worse off than today.
Don't forget, before the British set sail, the Roman's, Viking's, Mongolians, Ottomans and others travelled the world. And there is proof they were far more violent and enslaved the indigenous people of far away lands. Including England!
@@omnivorous65The wealth of africa,that everybody accuses colonial Britain of stealing,is the very wealth that both Britain and France used to build the modern cities,railways and other infrastruture associated with a developing country as many of the colonies were....
Then the ingrates turned around and accused the colonial powers of stealing their resources.......even though they did not have the " know how" to extract the wealth from the soil.....the Chinese had better watch Themselves.....They'll be accused of stealing next....
Me to, the English had no shame back then
Please explain specifically what was "raided"
I find it amusing how english and irish middle class historian's deny these signs existed, but then would they be in the same social groups, my father and his three brothers testified to this as the normal.
Were the irish immigrants, or men travelling between the islands of great Britain and ireland which was a unified country from 1801 to 1921 ireland became a Republic in 1948 under the Republic of ireland act, breaking its links with the commomwealth
They're denied because there's no evidence other that people saying so, there would have been hundreds of photos taken by the many activists it would have been on TV people who have wrote about it at the time Irish news papers would have been full of it not to mention the large Irish community in London who weren't shy would have smashed the windows with the signs in.
@@hetrodoxlysonov-wh9oo mr I didn't see it so it didn't exist a shop in Wilsden London in the 80s had a sticker with some what familiar statements on it stuck on the entrance door, hopefully someone will recall at the time well-known incident of matter 🤞
@@marioncostigan9616 That was illegal in the 80s, no photos of it taken? nothing in the press about it? no people complaining? no one putting a brick through the window?
the only sign according to Dublin university who investigated it saying it was an A4 paper and written on with a sharpie pen done in the1980s for propaganda done by political activists.
@@marioncostigan9616 There were some cards in windows ...but they could have anything on 'no musicians' 'no actors' 'no pets' 'no single women' 'no pregnant women' 'no children' ..My mum was turned down a lot because she was pregnant with me
Yeah, back in the day many guest houses in the Earlscourt district of London would display “No Australians” signs. The Aussies had a bit of a reputation for late night partying.
Yet out of the three there’s only one still bellyaching
😂😂😂 Well said!
possibly because they still face discrimination TO THIS DAY .. !
@@AuthenticCity really!!which one would that be?
People are blind
The amount of ignorance in this comment section,"myth".😂
I remember those notices in shop windows, and boarding houses, thank goodness we have moved on. Shopkeepers etc also refused to take Scottish money too - heavens knows why.
No they weren't. Yeah we really moved on. How did "anti racism" work out for the girls of Rotherham?
Scottish notes looked different so people were distrustful like they would be of English notes which looked different
Nobody asked
Scottish money is not worth the same as an English pound. It is funny money!
The signs referred to LODGERS. Get it. LODGERS!!!
People who lived in your house. Practically a member of your family. These were times of severe shortage of housing and very poor living standards. Why else would anyone invite a total stranger to live in your home, sharing all the facilities. They used the kitchen and the bathroom of your house. And why would anyone choose to be a mere lodger?
The trouble was that many black people and the Irish, had very different ideas about hygiene and appropriate behaviour. Many hadn’t experienced flush toilets - for instance, never mind washing hands when returning from work or washing armpits!!
I remember those days and my parents had lodgers to help pay for essentials - like food!
Phil lynot,d boys r bak
I saw a no Irish or dogs sign on a pub off the kilburn high road in 1980.
No you didn't.
@@corrocot1 I beg your pardon ,I can read fairly well and I know what I saw as I was shocked. If you wish to be an apologist for the BNF suit yourself but don't dare call me a liar.
@@patrickoconnor6979I was there the same time, why didn't you call the police?
@@corrocot1 I was 14 just got off the first tube I had ever seen, first time ever seeing a black person and trying to find the Roman way pub to meet the only person I knew in London. Went down a side street about to enter a pub to ask directions when I saw the sign on the door glass. The last thing on my mind was police.
@@patrickoconnor6979 It was totally illegal to put that sign up, I was 15 years there 80s-90s and never saw them.
Some English were very racist, but they weren't stupid enough to put up signs.
To be honest, the worst bastards I ever came across there were Irish subbies.
Or hipppys
This myth of the no blacks no dogs no Irish signs has been disproved, it's the same hand written note over and over, the blacks had a hard time but the Irish were never seen as different.
Nope on the contrary plenty of independent evidence these not only existed but were commonplace in certain places in the UK not forgetting the testimonials of 1000s of immigrants of indian and Carribean ancestry and research undertaken by academics in Britain in the 1950s and 60s
**** England!
Your profile picture is disgusting. It represents a political ideology that directly resulted in the death of over 100 million people in the last century and a half. You should be ashamed of yourself.
Imperialists and reactionaries are paper tigers! Tiocfaidh Ár Lá
Poor dogs, what did they ever do to deserve this way to be treated.
Such lovely welcoming people the British? 👎
The knckba is happening as bob said dont worry about.a ting every little thing will be alright are Day will come. BOBBY SANDS
Tiocfaidh Ár Lá
The good old days
😪😴😪😴
Those signs never existed.
I saw many of them in and around Earls court in the early sixties. So did my parents and sister.
@@jaymareachealee3351 Not a single photo of them.
They existed alright. Don't try to rewrite history. It is a fact!
@@peterwilson5528 There is no evidence, not even a single photo.
I have seen photographic evidence in the past just because the internet has been cleansed does not remove what I saw from my mind. It is much the same with many things Britain does not want to be reminded of if it can be removed it is.@@corrocot1
#REMIGRATION
*Not Nice*
Not nice at all,.. And it’s not nice to be still treating Irish traveler’s (in Ireland) like 3rd citizens, If you believe in god then please know your day will come when you’ll be asked (why),… your lies won’t trick the lord, (do something good for these people before it’s to late),🙏🏼❤️
Even worse for Brits in Ireland mind.
Then they shouldn't have invaded in the first place...
@@Eringobragh2024. The pope sent them.
@@brianredmond4919yeah the only English pope ever 😅
Tear down those signs!!!
They never existed, made up bullshit.
@@markredmond2014 exactly
No , leave them for the world to see.....
This is why they had to come to America during the potato famine
I fear blacks they are so intimidating. I deliver from a black area and have to watch over my shoulders at all times. I feel I am being challenged all the time and avoid eye contact
Rab carn Oh please!!😂🤦🏽♂️ you watch too many “cops” programs if you have this view everyday you wake up your better off living in Donald trump land 👎🏽
iben robinson. are you getting paid to say this ? or are you that ignorant ?
it'sMe TheHerpes I’m tired of reading negative white people slate black people instead of picking on them why don’t you look up your own history.....
You didn't have to fear black people, you have to fear the hoods, where the poor people live because white, black, Asian whoever when people are hungry and\or broke they will do what they have to do to get that money.
Yall got some issues. Can't believe this convo happened. People are only a product of their environment. This story is even talking about blacks, irish, and dogs being considered a public nuisance. All in the same boat. Very foolish people on here.