Torpedo heater starts but no FIRE! Will it ever run again?!
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- čas přidán 13. 09. 2024
- Today we work on a Dayton 3ve52d 210,000 btu kerosene heater i picked up to heat my garage in the winter, but like most things, it does not run. Lets fix it!
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Parts used:
► PP205 Rotor Kit 5/8" Reddy Master Dyna Glo Mi-T-M Dura Heat KFA1022 HA3005
► 3221-0029-00 Filter Cover Dyna Glo Dura Heat Thermoheat LB White Htrs 572696
► 3740-0049-00 Air Pressure Gauge Dyna Glo Dura Heat Thermoheat Heaters
►70-054-0200 Filter Kit for Dyna Glo Pro, Thermoheat and more. Also # SP-KFA1005
►SP KFA1011 Nozzle Kit 210K Dyna Glo Dura Heat Thermoheat 70-015-0500 Pro Temp
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By far the best video I’ve seen done on these heaters. Nice job.
Thank you to everyone who makes helpful videos like this one that literally help thousands solve their specific problem for years. You guys are national treasures.
I was able to fix my Dyna Glo Pro 210K BTU heater thanks in part to your video, so 2 thumbs up! It may be worth mentioning that the vanes on the rotor are not square, but slightly rectangle shaped, and it is possible to put them back in wrong and still have low air pressure and a no fire condition, even though they move freely. I discovered this the hard way and had to disassemble it again. I only had one vane in the correct way and three the wrong way. Put back together a second time and it ran great. Thanks again for the video!
I cleaned the air pump area and have 8lb pressure but still no fire. What do you suggest, oh I do have plenty of spark also
Nice job on the video ! Love how you showed when it wasn’t even turning on after few things you did !!! 🔥
Likely, when these have sat. Check hoses first for cracks, then look to see if Vanes are stuck. That's 80% of the problems.
Gotta laugh at his 21 degree comment. I'm watching this and it's -8f at noon time.
You made my repair easy lol..... Nice video showing people how to address a fuel delivery problem with one of these. My problem was dry rotted lines. 15 minutes and I churnin' and burnin'.... Thnx....
Thank you, I will try to fix my Reddy heater that has the same problem. I see so many people with the same issue, I am glad you took the time to work on the problem and find the solution.
Dude I’ve been working on my heater for 2 weeks and couldn’t figure it out.. had the exact problems that you had with the back plate and plastic cover. Appreciate the video.
I’m glad to see you got this fixed! In My experience the nozzle is usually the best place to start on oil fired heaters. Also as you figured out that little white tube is a safety to keep it from running without the shroud on.
I had the same problem and resurfaced them parts with wet sandpaper too.
Nice job I’m fighting mine currently I’m gonna try sanding and hope that’s my fix also
Vane plate has to be smooth and vane’s allway need replacing most of the time 😊
Clean vane very clean and free
I think I finally found the video that will help me with my problem. My pump is not pumping air. I already did all those other tests and they are fine. So I will try to sand down that aluminum plate. There is actually a stain on the plate that looks like it used to have a gasket. But I haven't found out any information about a gasket existing. Mine is Reddy heater 60,000 BTU unit. Thanks for the video. You did a great job with it.
Mine was doing everything fine apart from firing, the igniter was working, checked the pump vanes, all good. I found the pipe that goes onto the back of the air gauge was split, it goes through a sharp hole in the metal pump mount, I picked up some 1/4" fuel hose, re-routed it under the pump mount so it's not near any sharp edges, also replaced the fuel pipe into the tank whilst I was there, all working spot on now 😀
Really a good, comprehensive video. I'm having the same problems. I did notice the types of fuel, BTU output, and pressure are listed on the cover plate. Also, the top cover can easily be pushed out of shape by leaning on it. This presses the inside of the cover on to the fan blades binding them and not allowing it to spin.
Great job, that's exactly what mind's was doing 👏🏽 yes its working fine now. Thank you for the help 🙏🏽
Really great video and info, thanks for posting! I think my heater is not firing up for similar reasons as yours.
Thank you so much for this video. My friend has two of these type of heaters and both do not work. It is getting extremely cold here in Pennsylvania so I hope I can repair one or both so he has one and I have one to use as I start a small engine repair business . I have plenty of work to do but this cold is preventing it.
Hey bud you have to have the hose hooked up when adjusting the air psi
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that bottom plate and the ring the rotor runs in also can be adjusted the tolerance at the top is critical to building pressure
Well done and explaination is excellent!
Thanks for a very helpful video as I'm gonna fix my own heater one of these days👍👌
And that plastic piece that was cracked, all you need to do to fix something that is plastic and cracked most of the time, just take a screwdriver and a propane or map gas torch, heat up the tip of your screwdriver and fuse the plastic together and 9 out of 10 it will work.
I have a cordless drill and broke the whole battery off. What do I do to fix it? I fuse it back together and it works for another 2 or 3 yrs. LoL👍😎😁
The area where the. Check sits was beyond repair. Plastic housing had to be replaced.
We make those rotors and veins at work. And that helps alot
Great vid, nice to see all the trial and trouble shooting.
Great video, glad I found this one, I need to double check the same cover on mine, I think that is also my problem!
My heater had the same problem but instead of doing what you did cause mine looked like urs in the air pump all i did was soaked a rag with kerosene and wiped it all over the pump veins and soaked it good and put it back together and it fired right up
Great video! Very helpful, thank you!!
yea can spray soapy water on the air pump cover to look for leaks , just keep it off the electrical stuff.
Yes, this! I cleaned the nozzle, replaced the fuel and air lines, and replaced the rotor and vanes, only to still have low pressure.
Turns out, the gasket between the pump and pump cover had 2 small leaks. Replaced gasket, boom, good pressure!
Thank you for the video it helped me troubleshoot mine!
Thank you for your video helped me out!! Stay Warm!!!
Nice video very informative now I can tackle mine
mine fires up but it takes a second sometimes and it shoots a puff of smoke out sometumes. other times there is no smoke.
Do yourself a favor and add Seafoam to your fuel before you store it for the summer months (or dump it out and get new fuel) You'll thank yourself when you hit the switch the first time during a cold winter morning when a little blast of heat would feel real good! And try to get yourself one of the heaters that burn diesel. Diesel burns hotter (gives off more BTUs per gallon) It's also alot cheaper than kerosene.
very good thanks
It is a fan and heater somewhat quiet
thanks
Thank you for making this video!
I wonder if you could confirm this by using an air compressor to ad the 8 or 9 lbs to that hose.
Thanks for the very helpful info
Nice video! I bought a 125K BTU Torpedo version to use in a 24 x 40 ft out building I guess 5 to 7 years ago. That out building never saw any heat... I did end up using it to thaw water pipes on 1 house / over 1 winter / took all of 20 minutes once setup / then it got stored for several years. Back then I never thought to drained the 5+ gallons of kerosene I had dumped in it. :( I was new to these style heaters...... They sound like they use gobs of fuel.... Just got it out today to get ready for our upcoming winter after forgetting I had it... Just drained ( the old turpentine ) and rinsed the fuel tank with fresh K1. Going to use some simple green and clean the heater chassis all over before I pull the fuel filter. Fuel cap internals were a rusty mess.. I'll grab my Dremel and wire brush bit and see if it can be saved. Hopefully cleaning the fuel items will be enough to bring mine back to life since it only had less than 1 hour on it when stored away improperly... If not I know where to look next..
Mine had shaft play that allowed the motor shaft to come out of the pump drive. Since it’s old AF and was about ready to throw it away anyways. I narfed up the shaft a bit and tapped the pump back on. Still running good so far.
This was an excellent video!
Got straight to the problem and helped me save five of these!
Absolutely outstanding!
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Thank you
nice video and good job fixing it!
Nice video, having the same issue with my heater. Where did you get that pressure gauge? Stupid me monkeyed with that pressure knob and I fear I messed it up.
I bought everything off ebay. Check the description. Think I put all the listings there. Hopefully they were still active. Thanks for watching#
Mine is the 55,000 BTU Reddy heater and it won't start at all. I push the power button and I hear a little click but nothing happens at all. Time to take it apart I guess. I'm thinking maybe the igniter or solenoid
Great video.. My Dyna Pro is having the same issues.. Now I know what to look for in diagnosing my problem, and how to repair/rebuild it.... Thank you Jungle King007!!!..
Good job man
I think that heater has been rebranded by a few different companies. Mines branded as an L.B. White 175,000 BTU. I’ve never had any issues yet.
Then why are you watching a repair video? 😂 Lol
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Good stuff.
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I have a very nice heater I need help with please. I have a KFA 220DGD dual heat Dyna Glo Delux. It is suppose to have 6.5# on low heat and 8.5# on high heat. I can barely get it up to 6# with both adjustment screws turned all the way in and have tried everything which I will share with you. I need help in finding the cause for this low air pressure problem please.
I have cleaned the nozzle, eye and ignitor, fuel and air lines. I have cleaned the rotor and vanes and lubricated with dry silicone and properly gapped the rotor. I have flat sanded the air pump housing on both sides as well as the back of the end plate and sanded and cleaned the back plate of the fan motor, installed new filters and have applied thread tape to every screw and connection. None of this helped so I purchased a new air pump ring and a new end plate and a new rotor and vanes and reassembled and no change. I have also tried running an entirely different end plate and filters on the pump assembly just to see if there would be any change and nothing different, about 6#
I have used every trick in my playbook and am at a loss for finding the problem and this is the first heater I have ever worked on that one or more of my fixes has not corrected the problem.
I hope you can help me. Thank you in advance for any suggestions you might have.
Make sure you have the cover back on or you were not get an accurate reading/and it won’t run the same with the cover off as with it on
Was ready to dump mine, but now feel confident to be able to fix it. I will let you know how I get on.
check out the website reddy heater parts. There is lots of helpful how to stuff on there.
Me too! Benn at it most of the day with all the fixes I could find! Also gunna check the vain orientation!
Mine does not fire unless I have screws out of one side of the cover, if cover is held down it shut off and not fire. Have cleaned everything. Any ideas?
Heater cover might have a dent preventing the fan to spin
What's a good way to clean out the fuel tank itself? I was given one recently and it seems like a lot of sediment and stuff in the fuel tank. 👍🏼 Thanks
Got mine to lite but now it won’t refire after turning it off I can watch it pump the fuel and mist but won’t burn
is it sparking on startup? could also not be enough mist.
Kool vid
Guessing and replacing all replaceable parts is not how you Diagnose.
I have what I think is a Dayton, big red dual handle torpedo kerosene heater. I changed out the ignitor and cleaned the veins , spark plug
etc, but it starts right up and runs good for about 10 minutes and then it dies down until it starts flaming out and spits fluid and I pull the plug, if I let it set it will crank right up and fail again in a few minutes. any ideas ??? thanks for your time. model 3E219
Sounds like the suction by the air pump reduces over time. Does the gauge read a consistent pressure? Or does the pressure diminish?
Why did you not look at the pressure gage first? You literally have a gage for a reason.
Because the original was broken and not giving good readings, add the bad check and it wasn't going to show anything. That is why they were replaced.
@@jungleking007Channel okay. I still think checking pressure as first step would be more rational than a shotgun repair. Just sayin
Mine would blow smoke not fire up. Now fan runs no fire no smoke now.
check the pump, fins and hose. These may be the source of the problem unless spark is not igniting the fuel.
Getting E1 on a 125000, noticed that the fan doesn't start and I can hear the spark.
Is power reaching the fan motor? If the fan is not running the pump won't either as it is connected to the back. Hopefully it's a bad wire and not the control board or motor itself.
great video, saves me cash. thank you.
it is illegal to use kerosene in Massachusetts can i use Diesel fuel like ive been told? and if yes then what if it doesn't ignite? which is the issue im having........
Wow didn't know that one. Might as well outlaw diesel too since they are so close to each other in fuel characteristics...but I digress. Yes, diesel can run through these but not advisable. it's a little more dense and requires a finer spray to burn correctly, and is more toxic when used for an extended period of time. Using diesel is a last resort, or temporary solution only. Kerosene is preferred.
Your pressure gage should have give you a clue
i have a 650,000 btu can you repair it
How to swap parts until it runs 😂
With slight adjustment to existing parts as well.
@@jungleking007Channelawesome video and great troubleshooting.
Hi I have same heater And I checked everything including ignitor and there is no leakage in air pressure ,can go upto 12 psi but i adjusted it to .345 bar Still it is not pulling fuel out of tank . Pls guide me
Are you seeing fuel spray out the nozzle? You should see fuel spray out the nozzle if you are getting pressure. If not, check the pressure hose to the nozzle is secure, as well as the fuel hose. Any leak points will fail to draw and spray the fuel.
You should actually have The top cover on to or you won’t get an accurate reading
Great video! I just received a used one also. It turns on but the fan doesn't start so I'm thinking the motor or capacitor. Any thoughts?
It could be the motor or capacitor but check this first.Turn the fan blade by hand. Does it feel like it’s dragging? My fan would not start either. It was locking up.
Once I disassembled the pump, as shown in the video, my fan would turn freely. My problem was dirty components in the pump assembly were locking the motor up. Cleaned pump as shown, like new!
Mine the rotor on the air pump was gummed up once cleaned motor spun easy.
mine quits without the top cover installed
Top cover acts like a wind tunnel, helps direct the air into the burn chamber. If it lights with it on, should be working as long as the air pump is configured correctly.
Where did you order the parts from
Ebay. Check the description for details.
what did he clean it with?
Brake parts cleaner.
I see a s-series hiding !! 🤫🤘 there is a girl on tik tok who collects and restores them , she has 17 Saturn s-series
Was a great car, but had to sell when we upgraded to a van. Found out later the kid I sold it to wrecked it on some icy roads. Sad way for it to go.
@@jungleking007Channel damn :(
How do I order the parts?
Most parts were bought on EBay. Check the description for details.
Scrap dyna glo
you did not off set it
Offset what?
where did you buy your parts? what are the order numbers?
EBay, I put the part numbers in the description.
Thanks. I've worked on those for a few years now & I get more logic out of a female then I do those damned heaters. They got a mind of their own. What's that old expression? "They're like little girls". "When they're good, they're very good". "When they're bad---
My ReddyHeater 55,000Btu runs one or two minutes then blows the 6.3amp fuse. All components are clean: rotor, vanes, housing, filters, photocell. Any ideas?
My first thought would be a short in the fan motor. Probably a good idea to check the current draw of the fan motor. Or a ground is bad somewhere.
Check your ignitor see if it bad
40 degrees in you garage and your crying. You just lost your man card if you ever had one.
So much wasted effort and money here. These things are so basic and so much information out there on how to diagnose and repair these properly! 9PSI????? 3.5-5 at the most! Try to find another video source from someone who has a better understanding of mechanics and how these operate!
For the smaller heaters you would be correct on the pressure, but this one is a higher BTU rated unit so 8-9 psi would be recommended, per the manual. I'd suggest you read one before commenting next time.
I have practically the same heater. It was building pressure bit not what it should. I replaced the rotor and now it won't build any pressure. Any suggestions?
very good thanks