The Most OVERPOWERED Character In Borderlands 2 - Salvador "Borderlands Retrospective" (Part 1)
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- čas přidán 11. 09. 2024
- Today we are talking about the vault hunter Salvador from Borderlands 2 and how he has changed and effected the gameplay loop.
Todays video is my first part to a new series called "Borderlands Retrospective", a series where my goal is to look back on things in the Borderlands franchise that I felt were cool and memorable, and that may have been lost in translation over time.
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As a big fan of borderlands 2 this video has me hyped!
Happy to see you here man, Love your Warframe stuff
You forgot Nisha I think she can do the stacking of guns but, pistols only
Ninjas, assassins, engineers, soldiers, marksmen, walking meat tanks, a SENTIENT ROBOT with a MONKEY with a GUN, LITERAL GODDESSES OF TIME AND SPACE...
*_a very angry man with two guns_*
Angry because he can't hold three
@@jamesmcmackin8773 * Angry because he's short. *
Too angry to die
@@agord7591 Girth is just as important as length ;)
angry midget*
Do I care if Sal is broken? Hell no! He and Krieg are my 2 favorite characters!
Krieg has the best character dialogue in my opinion
Yeah I might have just melted the warrior with buzz axe with a melee build on tvhm earlier today
Yeah no other character beats the fun that kreig gives.
@@GinamosWithCherryOnTop use rtv, rampage, die to yourself after hitting yourself with stv 90 times, and have no enemy to get a second wind off of due to bloodsplosion killing everything, lose 300k, cry
Any Kreg skills suggestions for TVHM
Sal is great because he actually scales into UVHM, which a lot of characters simply suffer a lot in. He can slag easier than anyone else besides maybe Maya, and is super tanky. I honestly wish the other characters were made closer to his level so UVHM and OP levels weren't as awful.
Correct, plus he doesn't have to worry much about dying (which many characters also struggle with)
@@ItzTermx Yeah. You lose stacks if you die as zero and gaige which limits your choice of tactics.
I love mya to death my first and only max lv character and since i dont have internet im stuck trying to do raid bosses alone but good god her mobbing skills are godly bossing maybe its just me but she doesnt shine in the arena for me personally maybe its my set up but lets just say i killed op 3 hyperius for the first time a few months ago and ive been playing since 2013
Axton does really well with dual slag turrets, and Legendary Pointman makes him tanky when specced into Grit, but his strength is biased heavily toward mobs rather than bosses, and unless you use The Bee he just won't cut it solo against raid bosses. The Bitch and Lyudmila/White Death are decent finds for him.
@@jamesmcmackin8773 ill try him out never been too much of an axton or gaige fan myself ive been working on a kreig and sal the grind is not fun i wish i had more options to xp farms
I have zero issues with Sal. Borderlands is a power fantasy game, and he is the ultimate power fantasy. It's also worth mentioning that until you have enough skill points to permazerk, he's rather squishy...
The last surviving Hyperion guard watching a midget with 2 guns charge at him:💀
Sal can make any gun work basically at any level. Saves you from the terrible endgame scaling bl2 has
Facts
That's the shit I don't wanna run into. Even shotgun midgets had too much hp and defense
problem is all of us who didnt play sal basically got butchered. nobody cared bl2 scaling was horrible because everybody played sal.
not really anything, sal can't get much out of snipers smgs and dahl weapons as much as the other characters
@@alikhavari4250 I simply took cloudkill, grog nozzle and a bee on maya and profited
I tried uvhm on axton and got obliterated
Salvador: proving an extra firearm is more powerful then powerful, incredible and rare abilities.
Yeah as if any ability besides the sirens in theory is actually that incredible.
@Wesley Eberly I was targeting the sirens abilities by getting more specific, but zero also has a specially made suit that has a number of powerful assassin functions for example
Switching to your sidearm is faster than reloading your primary
"but what about holding my primary in one hand and the sidearm in the other?"
Your primary is a sniper rifle
"So?"
....whatever, go for it.
1:49 You forgot to mention that when the game decides how much moneyshot bonus your left gun should have, it looks at the magazine size of the right gun. So holding the Grog in the right hand gives you full money shot bonus on your Orphan maker that should barely get a bonus.
So the main gun with 1 shot remaining all the time just makes the extra gun way more powerful than both combined? Actually an amazing way to play hadn't thought of that (that or the fact that combining the skill to have the bullet refunded and the last shot bonus dmg stack)
@@icehawk3442 I think you misunderstood me a little bit. The left gun does not check how many bullets the right gun has in it's magazine. It just checks the maximum number of bullets it can hold.
However, there is another moneyshot bug.
If your right weapon has an empty magazine, your left gun will receive the moneyshot bonus from your right gun on all shots fired.
But it has to be 0 and not 1. So you would need to fire away all your ammo or get the inconceivable bug that doesn't make your weapon reload automatically.
At first I didn't think being able to hold two guns at the same time is impressive then I realized that means he can hold a slag weapon and fire his main gun at the same time. This means he gets access to slag whenever his ability is available and he got a slag weapon. It's just a point and click adventure at that point.
and that's the least broken thing gunzerking can do lol
Honestly that’s the entire reason he’s OP. The guns are made or have wild ass effects, ideally helpful and good at least in certain scenarios. When you allow a character to hold two different guns…well, you basically get the most powerful character. Unless you want to nerf all the guns, making them less ideal for other characters just to make sure combining them isn’t too powerful, you kinda have to accept that.
That said, you can mod Salvador to gunzerk with two of the same gun (like, if you have a torgue quad, and you hit gunzerk, you’re now holding two quads even if every other gun in your swap slots is different). It substantially reduces how OP he is, to the point where Axton kinda beats him out. It’s odd that gearbox never adjusted him in this way, and also kinda frustrating.
@@rajkanishu But it's the most obvious advantage. As long as you have guns of three different elements, you have no fear that an enemy can resist your weapons. It's a guaranteed hard or soft counter to every conceivable target.
@@minhducnguyen9276 slag grenades exist
You also didn't mention that the mag size requirement on money shot is insanely broken, because it only looks at the weapon in your right hand. That's why having the grog in the right hand and a low-mag shotgun in the left hand is so insanely broken.
Good catch
Yupp of you get a mag size of say 17 on the random ruby then use the shotty you'll have so much more damage. Also side note equip the rough rider shield for constant money shot
@@martydom666 you only need a mag size of 12 for maximum damage
Doing a Salvador run right now to get a taste on how OP he is,so far,wow
I don't know how far you got but around once you get your first final lockstone in a tree you just kinda win
@@ghost1182able before that sal already can do far over 50k damage which oneshots every boss you can encounter at that time in the game
3:25 The Lady Fist didn't have 800% extra crit damage on launch. It was only buffed in late 2013 during the 100k loot hunt over a year after the game came out. People would use the crit Fibber instead which has a 700% crit damage boost, but it wasn't commonly used until UVHM came out.
God You just reminded me of how old I am, good catch completely spaced it
Ahh, Axton and the slag licked glitch.... Good times
@@ItzTermx Hey man, I was there too lol. Totally get it. It's been way too long.
@@HenryMyth I remember people used the fiber with a certain shotgun but I'm spacing the name (maybe the quad?)
@@ItzTermx Yeah, at level 61 you could one shot Terra with a Fibber and a Quad. People did it with other guns too. I think the videos are still on CZcams.
really good video; every time i play Sal i always go "God i love this character so much" whenever i see big damage numbers, at this point he's just a main staple of the franchise for me and was my very first playable character introduction into the Borderlands games.
holy shit this video makes me feel old lol im only 19 so to me this game came out what feels like eons ago. the fact that its been more than a decade, and people like you are starting to make retrospectives on the series is just wild to me. i had no idea back then that even after all these years i would still be all over this franchise. back then i was still getting used to the hype and adrenaline behind reaching Level 50 for the first time. man, i love this game so much, and i love channels like yours that show love to it, too. what an amazing trip down memory lane, this video was
I'm 19 too bro, I remember when I bought this it was my first ps3 game. Well after Skyrim.
I'll make you feel young again:
I was your age _when BL2 came out._
Funny thing is i have been playing all borderlands game for more than 10 years and i still have to actually go end game in BL2.
It takes ages and it's so hard for me, also on console and i don't want to use weird things to get quest items and such. I never killed a raid boss, i never got to OP i dont even know what that is. My two best attemps were Anarchy Gaige LVL.72 but i've had loot given to me so it dosnt count imo. Like i had the norfleet. I never looted one ever. Never had seraph weapon either. My latest attempt was Axton LvL 80, barely making it in Uvhm. I used the tooth pick (rainbow ar i think if i remember) mainly.
Borderlands 1 i've had all vaut Hunter max level highest difficulty soloing all the content. (I farmed weeks on weeks like 8h per day the armory and only ever had one Pearl. Undertaker i think iirc. So i abandonned that)
I got multiple character close to end game in TPS and the only one i finished was athena infinte shotgun build bulletstorm something. Here i can deal with the game it's just so tedious to farm xp and loot.
And BL3 i have all characters done and fully ready for end game.
Sal is god mode. Double pen Harold's and grog nozzle and rough rider = OP
Indeed, But he is so fun with certain weird gun combos. Like having 2 shredifires will always been awesome.
@@ItzTermx or the lead storm with a bee shield
@@ItzTermx The idea of the pimpahab is stupid at first : a sniper and a very bad rocket launcher paired together ? Thats stupid. But then, you kill Vermi in 20 seconds, and you discover a new world.
I think weapon merging is a little different than you mentioned here. With the grog, you get the healing if it is out when damage occurs I'm pretty sure. So if you have one gun out and swap to the grog before the bullets hit, you gain the health. Or if you throw a grenade with the grog out you gain health. You aren't really merging its effect in this case the gun is just out and its effect works. If you watch speed runs of the game, the any% with gaige, they do weapon merging there to stack I think its crit damage from one gun onto a different gun.
This.
That double grenade skill is underrated, epic magic missiles for instant slag and storm fronts for instant grog healing. Chain lightning are good for flying enemies for those storm fronts can keep up heals on a few raid bosses even, OP as hell.
and double the grenades for grenade jumping is so fun
Oh the Harold and grog combo, absolute classic 🤤🤤🤤❤️❤️❤️
Great video, however you forgot to mention that the Grog has another very important effect that's not obvious to most people - the 200% type B crit damage bonus which means it's multiplicative.
Very true, I saved that for a grog specific part :)
I think the passive weapon stats stacking was what made Sal so fun. Made you think of all the creative ways you can exploit BL2’s crazy gun mechanics to do some insane damage. If the ability was just to shoot 2 guns at the same time, it might as well have been just a double your damage button which is no fun
That’s what I’ve been saying this whole time. If a bl2 remake/remaster comes out and it fixes salvador he’ll still easily be the best vault hunter thanks to his ability to never run ot of ammo and the insane amount of free damage skills he has, but he’ll be nowhere near as fun. It’ll be moze all over again
I am glad you mentioned that Salvador is OP without exploits. Dual DPS or DPS and utility together is insane, and not many people understand that fundamental aspect of Salvador makes him so strong. The fact that he can regen ammo and basically gunzerk forever, means that even the downside (high ammo consumption) of having two copies of a weapon is basically non-existent.
Also weapon merging works with identical weapons two lady fists together gives Salvador +1600% crit, this is actually worse than Grog and Lady Fist. Which gives +800% due to the Grog's x3 multiplier
I am convinced that the spaghetti code that is Salvador is what lead to dual-wielding bugs in later titles such as the buffmeister exploit in Wonderlands (patched) as an example, and those only got patched because these games were more recent. Gearbox is known for being lazy when it comes to this sort of thing.
Dual guns means you have a counter to every elemental resistance in the game and still have a slot for the grenades. You can either use grenades for damage, guns for utilities or vice versa. Every vault hunter can do that but not to the same extent as Sal. Sal literally doesn't need the glitches and still remains amongst the strongest Vault hunters in the game.
What I usually do is play on the community patch and challenge myself to not use any exploits or cheap strats (no grog, no 400anarchy norfleet, no b0re abuse) etc... Usually works fine into op10 until you try to do raidbosses, then it becomes painfully slow and tedious.
Unless you play sal. Then you need to spreadsheet out every weapon and finish your borderlands phd to avoid exploits, and even then you just tear every raidboss a new one
As a noob to Borderlands 2 i thank you for telling me all about how broken Salvador is and now i'm going to abuse it maliciously in singleplayer.
Sal always has been one of my favs (played every character to max about 2-4 times) because he starts out actually.... Like the weakest ? Just taking a look at new game speedruns he really isn't better than the other characters. He is actually slot worse until you get his skilltree and weapon choices really going . After that you can build into whatever You want. You wanna use the gub? Sure try it to your hearts content. You wanna spam bullets with butchers and never reload? Sure go ahead. I love this. I love the fact that sal really has unlimited build options just because he can pretty much break everything. This game has so much awesome loot and equipment it's a shame 90% of it goes to trash for most of the characters at higher levels while sal is able to make use of it. Ofc those things are still much worse but they're still playable.
Got it free when it come to Epic and chose him because I thought shooting two guns was cool. One day I meet a cool guy in co-op who played a lot longer. He gave me a grog nozzle, the permanent one, and explained me the basics. All went to hell after that.
I think its fine to have one "broken" character. Makes it a little bit easier to do raid style content for people who are not maybe that good at games or dont have friends to play with. Everything should be soloable in borderlands anyways and its good theres a character that can do it well
This makes me nostalgic for the first time I played bl2. I was Maya, and my two friends were Gaige and Salvador. At one point during the playthrough the Salvador-player starts laughing excitedly and explains how he just noticed he had become incredibly overpowered
me playing Borderlands 2 for the first time: "Ooh that mohawk guy looked cool in the intro, it looks like he's the best at shooting. I think I wanna pick him for my first playthrough!"
me after watching this video: "...What have I gotten myself into?"
In my opinion the grog nozzle is what puts him over the edge. He also requires far less setup to be effective
this is a really cool video! salvador is fun to talk about in terms of balance, as he has had a very interesting history throughout borderlands 2’s lifetime, along with his mechanics and abilities, and how they make him who he is.
i do think salvador is broken in some regard, but i think it comes a lot down to the weapons he can take advantage of rather than him exclusively. earlier on, when a lot of dlc weapons didn't exist, such as a grog nozzle, and the level cap was 50, i think he was better balance wise as he didn't have access to any of the now well established powerful gear he can use, and you didn't have as many skill points to work with. while you can rock the rubi and harold, you still have way less skill points than nowadays so you kinda have to invest wisely. i think he was designed to be a glass cannon, dealing out heaps of damage and taking heaps of agro, with the gunlust and rampage trees allowing for massive stat boosts and constant damage, and tank giving increased survivability so you can take more heat, but the addition of several weapons like the grog nozzle, new legendary class mods, etc, along with the hugely increased level cap, it basically nullified any sort of weakness that salvador would have had in the past. the grog made his tank skilltree almost entirely obsolete, allowing him to just go all in on damage and duration, which allows him to be even MORE powerful and tanky, as with the grog, damage = healing, with more damage = even more healing.
i think Sal being able to capitalise on weapon effects is really cool and unique to him, but that alone almost pushes him over the edge entirely with balance singlehandedly imo. i would hate to see it nerfed, but it probably would be necessary to make him more reasonable.
even then, there's so much more to talk about with salvador, such as his skills like money shot and overkill, along with general jank like guns in his left hand not being affected by certain skills/gear, but i just wanted to give my 2 cents. he's a fun character, and a macho man for sure.
edit: just realised editing this comment to change some things accidentally got rid of the heart i got oops fknwnfn
still, thank you anyway for the heart!!!
Running through dual wielding an unkempt herald and grognossle with a bee shield is so fun hahaha. No aiming required and you never die lol.
bee shield sucks for that cuz its permanently down on higher difficultys and you get almost nothing out of it even if it's active since the harold kills fast without slag and bee
I always played with my two buddies. I was Zero and Maya, my best friend Axton and Krieg, and his younger brother Salvador. Lets just say he was always full of himself.
I remember watching YouAlwaysWin and one said that “Salvador ultimate was double the pleasure double fun A bunch of shots for everyone”.
I love YAW, grew up watching them
This was enlightening. I didn't really realize how all of Salvador's skills and bonuses interact but I love playing Salvador. I honestly need all the help I can get.
RIP my boy Yoteslaya 😢
There's another busted skill that Sal has - 5 shots or 6. It's a kill skill that gives you a chance to receive +2 ammo to the magazine after a shot and with a class mod boosting it to 10/10 you get 50% chance for it it happen so 50% of the shots consume ammo and 50% of the shots refill magazine back, which gives you almost infinite ammo on most guns, with ammo regen effects that Sal has it actually becomes infinite. Very strong with Vladof sniper rifles, you use them like a machine gun on Sal.
this video made me feel better about playing Gaige and zer0 lol
if you beat all raid bosses on op10 with bar off as gaige you're a real pro
Money Shot is even more broken than what you said. It scales up to 12 mag size (instead of 10 like the description says). Which means that the full bonus you can get with 11 points is 1056% and not 880%.
For the Grog Nozzle healing applying to the other weapon, it's more about the Grog Nozzle being broken than Salvador. Healing from Moxxi weapons works with every damage you do when holding the weapon. Yes, it's easier with Salvador, but using Chain Lightning or swapping weapons with slow projectiles (like a DPUH) works well enough on every character.
Yea I showed the wiki screenshot to make up for forgetting about saying it lol. Don't worry I got a video in the series ALL about the grog in the works :)
My first borderlands character was sal but i never used the exploits i just used vladof spin guns and ran around being a a10 warthog
I literally mained sal end game most my hundreds of hours were on him. The unkempt grog nozzle combo just made the op8 game easy mode
I really wanna replay this game
My buddy and I are playing through all of the first few, super fun
As an axton main I have to admit Salvador is fun af to play
I have the same Sal since launch! I'm not going to be like "he OP, not play". This is new to me too, I dont really interact with Bl2 comunity, but Zer0 seems strong too. And I didnt know about the Pimpernel, and I dont know what a Ahab is lol
Zero is very strong, sometimes even better than Sal, but he's much harder to play. The Ahab is a rocket launcher from the pirate DLC. It's not very good on its own, so most people only use it for that exploit.
Really like this video! Fresh format with a new approach to the game, keep it going!
❤️
Krieg may be my favorite character from any looter shooter
Dope video dude good shit :)
I still say that Sal is really fun to play! Even if you know ALL of the builds and set-ups for Salvador, you can still easily get 1-2 tapped by much of the harder content if you do not know exactly what you are doing.
I see u been on a content grind lately, got potential to blow up with that thumbnail and title, respect
Hey! thank you for the kind words
Salvador was my multi-player character and I never had an issue with him. I loved every minute of my 300 hours of BL2
it’s hilarious how he’s better than full bug builds because they only have a single bug, he has dual wield bugs possible
The moment I realized you can combine weapon effects on sal, I realized he was the strongest.
I mean regardless of how u feel. Sometimes it's just fun to have infinite power.
That is what bl3 makes better the balance between all characters. In bl3 every character is good.
The Library of my highschool was where i first saw the trailer for Borderlands 2 and when sal came on screen it was love at first sight. ive put 2000 hours at minimum into borderlands 2 and only ever completed one playthrough as someone other than Salvador (shout out krieg)
I read a steam guide that referred to Salvador as "The walking glitch", and that about summarizes him perfectly.
I actually played this game on a Dell laptop with integrated Intel graphics that were so bad I had to mod the game into the ground, shadows, outlines, even entire texturing went. It ended up looking like a PS1 game, but Sal was still a blast to play.
Sometimes, you want something that will challenge your skills, your intellect, in order to achieve what deemed impossible.
And sometimes, you just want to go around and kill everything you meet, yell one-liners, shoot two guns that do not shut up, and have a shield that doesn't shut up neither.
When i was Playing with a friend he was struggling with a enemy and got downed... I just walked by Moneyshot/killed the enemy and revived him like nothing ever happened.. my friend was quiet and mentioned that i did like over 500k+ damage.
Ah yes, the distant and dark GAME CODING OF TWO THOUSAND AND TWELVE. Truly barbaric times.
salvadors mechanics could be extremely fun in a modern borderlands game really, if borderlands 4 has multiple action skills again i feel like it should come back in some sort of way, just actually balanced and such.
also, every borderlands game except 1 and 3 (if you dont count digi clone or iron bear) had a type of gunzerk in it, bl2 had sal, blps had nisha with her dual pistols and wonderlands had spellzerker, so thats interesting
I think his other skills play more of a factor to it than just the dual wield, he's basically one punch man
Money shot is definitely a factor, but it's really just icing on the cake.
Double grenades, and 5-6 shot skill and low capacity jakobs shotguns😍😍
2:23 I mean... technically, Axton with weapon switching class mods can still benefit from this. You shoot out a shot from the Flakker (or whatever it was called) and then switch to the rocket launch of your choice.
From what I read in the past, it isn't a glitch, so much as a consequence of the way the Unreal Engine handled projectiles. The projectile's damage is dependent on the weapon you have at hand, so when you either switch weapons fast enough (or use Salvador with the Rocket Launcher in the offhand) the game reads the damage listing from the "current" weapon.
While less useful, any weapon that creates an explosive projectile (Flakker, Pimpernel, etc.) can take on the damage listing of another weapon if you can swap weapons quickly enough before the shot registers a hit. I think this effect is "always on" for Salvador because of the way the off-hand is treated as if it were the "current" weapon because it doesn't really work when done the opposite way.
dont forget kriegs swap speed skill which with enough Bloodlust lets you instantly swap weapons pretty much
*sighs*
*opens bl2 to start a sal build*
Salvador was definitely playing the game on easy mode. Krieg melee only is the true patrician build.
When you listen to The Echo you realize this is what he is one man army
Thanks man I play krieg and sal to this day. Awesome content I will agree 100% on this video. Salvador is the character you get on to have fun with. Or to help carry other friends in raids lol.
Sal is the best character. Krieg is the most fun in terms of shit talking and just running around beating everything to death.
Inconceivable caps at 50% chance to not consume ammo. And you get the full bonus when your shield is depleted or you are very low on health. So you don't need to be 1 shot away from dying to get the full bonus. You still get it at full health with broken shield.
Bro i didnt have to worry about refilling ammos even once during my playthrough with salvador
Honestly I think he is better "balanced" for the game they made in terms of the average person playing through once and seeing how far they get. The vast majority of people will never put the time into a game to perfect build an axton or whoever to see all the content there is. And in terms of speeding through the early game and ruining it for yourself, again, hardly anyone outside of the small amount of people making/watching BL2 videos a decade later actually are aware of stuff like the grog nozzle or some best in slot weapon to farm and just play normal and TVHM using whatever they find along the way. In that sense, his basic power level without specific knowledge of glitches/mechanics helps push people along at a nice pace. I love the series, but I have seen so many people just drop off it with various characters when the scaling gets wonky and everything feels like a chore to fight. Its not so intuitive to people to go back and farm some specific named dude two zones back just for a 2% chance to make the game feel like its designed well again. If they power through it with sal and whatever random blues they found in chests and actually finish the game and try out the endgame, I think thats a good thing. I'd love to see the stats on the amount of people who even bothered with the OP levels. I would assume its much smaller than everyone thinks.
Gunzerking with a Chulainn, DPUH & Bee shield = God mode.
I think it's still safe to say that Sal isn't much more OP at endgame levels than the others; Sal has PimpHab, Moxxi weapon healing, Money Shot, etc. but Maya has speed builds and insta-revives, Axton is an insanely survivable jack of all trades, Zer0 has b0re and Critical Ascension, Krieg has Bloodsplosion and Nova spam, and Gaige has Anarchy. In a co-op setting Sal achieves his intended role as a tanky DPS dealer.
As long as you're using sane weapon combos Sal still has to work for his kills on OP10 like everyone else, and I think it's safe to say that Sal kinda just perfectly illustrates everything broken about BL2 in the first place.
don't forget about mayas cloud kill which with just a grog nozzle makes her close to invincible, also she can stack her killskills and get the healing effect on any gun
@@Halimat2.0 Maya became a lot more viable after patches in 2015 and again in 2019 that mitigated the abysmally bad elemental damage scaling at OP levels, before that she was largely relegated to Beehawk builds because her action skill was very useful for mobs.
As a Sal main I feel like you just attacked every way I like to play the game. I'm here for it though
salvadors issue wasn't inherently him using two weapons at the same time, it is that he had so many bugs supporting him on top of not having a negative damage modifier while using two weapons.
NOBODY expects the Salvador Inquisition!
Salvador can have some insane slag combos
Sal is so far the only character I have to make it to op10, I just need to the pimp combo to raid
Do not use the Ahab on Sal with the pimpernel use the Duuurp with 6 or 7 mag size so you can easily boost it up to 12 with a neutral monk classmod as the aditional moneyshot bonus with an empry launcher is way higher than the base damage increase from the ahab
Also the duuurp has a much lower projectile speed so the explosions will be in a much tighter group also increasing the damage cause more of them will actually hit
Honestly I didn't know that, Never tried the derp. Only ever used the creamer and the ahab
@@ItzTermx try it out its awesome especially against smaller enemies you can compare duuurp and ahab by shooting the pimp on the ground and while the ahab projectiles fly in all directions like artillery the duuurp ones practically all land within a few feet of the pimpernel projectile
I farmed the torque vendor for a 7 mag duuurp and can therefore get it to 12 shots with a neutral monk classmod and can additionally also wear an explosive relic with no need for an allegiance relic to reach max money shot
Ive done the calculations in my head pretty throughly and including the fact that the projectiles hit more reliably its definetly the most potent combo
It also works well on a raider build with 6 MS and 5 incite and a low level tortoisr shield for insane mobility and firepower combined and also inconceivable constantly active as if u were using the rough rider
@@ItzTermxtry the world burn too. I don’t think it has higher damage than the ahab but the fire damage on the pimpernel is fun
I’m hyped. In my opinion, the most broken, as well as cheap, character has to be lawbringer. She simply made the game too easy. I don’t even think we want another one, she was just that broken
I was laughing at the name my brother's friend gave a pistol build I didn't even know about. He called it the "Degenerate's waaaa I don't want to try anymore build" The Grognozle DP Unkempt Harold Pistol set up. And yeah I just didn't die lol
One thing that i have decided to do as a op10 Salvador player is I discovered the no moxxi brawn. I have been playing it as a deputy build its alot of fun and in op10 takes some practice but its very fun and makes salavdor a more balanced character.
Not sure I’ve ever heard of Flakker + Lady Fist? Goes without saying the Flakker has horrible accuracy, so a relatively low base damage crit weapon is probably a downgrade from just using a Flakker.
That being said, you can do the same thing with an Ahab to achieve something similar to the pimperhab glitch on other characters; works especially well with Krieg and Axton’s swap speed. Shoot the Flakker and hold your mouse, tap reload, then switch to the slot with the Ahab to double shot the Flakker with Ahab damage.
BL2 was the first in the series that I played. I got the game a few weeks after launch and I remember going over all the action skills and seeing Sal's.
"Wait, all he does is pull out another weapon? That's so fucking lame. We got pocket dimensions, damage boosting invisibility decoys, auto turrets and death robots and he just has an extra gun out?"
As someone who only played realistic military shooters, I had no idea of the wackiness of BL guns.
But seriously, I didn't play Sal because I thought his action skill was bad.
RIght?? His skill seemed so boring early on
>Goes with the other Vault hunters because he thinks it would be fun
>Is basically a space Mexican
>Has a sick head of hair
>Becomes the most broken character of the franchise
>Leaves to become a commentator in BL3
>Refuses to elaborate further
I completely forgot to mention another weapon combo. Green Vladof launcher & the fibber. Fire both guns at the same time to pause ammo consumption on the fibber until you stop firing, or gunzerking wears off.
You can do this to money shot Hyperius to death at speeds so fast, you can chain kill him to cause loot pools large enough to tank the frame rate.
very broken glitch though its main strength is raid bossing only its for most other combat situations not viable since you sacrifice any chance at healing
It’s funny how Gearbox realized after the game was out that they inadvertently made a broken character and have tried to make a similar character but never Salvador again because he’s just too good.
"Game coding wasn't that advanced in 2012"
I'm pretty sure it was plenty advanced to have done it correctly. It's not like we are talking about Doom 2 here. Surely it was just laziness and/or apathy.
Someone who does know please correct me if Im wrong.
I don’t remember where I saw it, but I remember reading that Nisha’s double pistol capstone was built off of Salvador, and you could basically gunzerk or damage swap
Great vid. I don’t think you could do this on bl3 bc all the characters had some sort of op build especially crit swapping fl4k with the sticky torgue shottys
Lady fist + bee shield+ literally anything else=destroy everything
Ah yes, the guy Man of Low Moral Fiber hates with every fiber (heh) of his being
Didn't know about the pimperhab glitch, thanks for the new knowledge:)
Sal, as broken as he is, still remains a character that every single borderlands fan should try. You don’t have to beat the game or 100% or anything. But give him a try. You’ll see just how much he trivializes every part of the game
See, when I played Borderlands, I self nerfed by only using action skills once per non boss encounter, and three for boss encounters. It really made the game last longer
People saying "Salvador is not fun" is something I understand but dont agree.Its on you if you only use harold and grog nozzle.There are infinite number of builds and guns you can cycle through also the rocket jumping through the map, the super movement speed, this character is alot of fun if you dont stick with only pimperhab and harold all the time.Dont get me wrong though, he is NASTY OP
sal is who i used and i had no idea he was op. years later i found out he was broken. bl2 was also my first loot game and i didn't know what builds were
Didn't know people didnt have fun on sal. He is pretty much the only character i play to have fun.
Never cared for any sort of meta build, but having my Sal duel wield those Moxxi assault rifles from the badass crater DLC just puts a smile on my face from the sheer number of bullets I send down range.
Accurate? F no thanks to their novelty smiley face firing pattern, but 2 rifles each sending out 3 rounds for the price of 1 with each using a different element, just makes me want to laugh just like Sal... plus the option of double grenades while zerking is a cherry on the cake.
You can Merge guns with any character, I forget how exactly but you had to switch guns and menu with a kinda tight timing.
I'm certain it wasn't uncommon knowledge.