How Bumblebee’s Cybertron Scene Got Everything Right About Transformers
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What Knightverse had, that Bayverse didn't:
1. Recognisable characters
2. Original Designs
3. Great sound design
4. Proportions make sense
5. Range in personality for characters
6. Transformers arn't torn to shreds by gunshots
7. Laser guns
8. Transformer character development
9. Transformers wearing their Faction's Insignia
10. Cliffjumper dying
Was cliff jumper even in any of the bay movies
@@jimbomclimbo7467 He died in the comics tied to the movies.
Bayverse movies had great sound design
@@isaiahaudain5006 yeah I agree
@@jimbomclimbo7467 he probably was u just didn’t know remember in the bay verse any car can be a transformer so u probably saw cliff jumper.
The problem I had with the Bay movies were that many of the Transformers were not particularly recognizable in robot mode, especially the Decepticons.
Grey here, grey there, massive moving pile of scrap metal and random parts here, another there, two smashing into another, essentially the bay movies.
The first fight scene in bay's Transformers 1 film, I didn't even know what the hell was going on because it just looked like a massive rotating ball of scrap metal
@@moxxiiscarlett7141 IKR also which side would you be as a transformer? Wfc foc.
@@moxxiiscarlett7141 then your just blind lmao
@@kingslayerx1716 your opinion has been filed with the billions of others, and just as quickly forgotten
@@mistylover7398 I would be a Decepticon, but I would be one for the reason they were founded upon back in TFP, where they were created to rebel against the corrupt government
Seeing Soundwave in his og form made me rock hard.
Nah man think bigger
Diamond Hard
Those are rookie numbers
LordMatt48 rock lords .
High Marshal Sigismund nah, bedrock
Shockwave looks sick.
I always thought Travis Knight got inspiration from Fall of Cybertron to make the opening scene.
That was my immediate thought as soon as they showed cybertron. It made me think of the opening cinematic in war for cybertron, which is exactly what I'd love to see expanded upon in the future.
While watching Bumblebee the first thing that came to mind while first seeing it was a mix between G1 and War/Cybertron as well as a few aspects from TFP
Ironhide in the movie looked exactly like he did in FOC to me
I think the game did it better
@@coolguyofawesomenful definitely, but bumblebees was great as well, but that opening cutscene in war for cybertron will always be my favourite
I hope Travis Knight comes back to do future Transformers Movies, I want to see Transformers Movies in Travis Knight’s image.
You'd almost say he's the true last knight.
@@markcastellanet9672 Heh!
Ceasar L. Soft reboot
Now looking back nearly a decade later, Transformers didn’t feel the same after Dark of the Moon. But I still watched simply because of the cool visual effects. I expected a slight improvement from Bumblebee and the movie lived up to that end.
@Omega Maximus they need to have a different director though because this movie made me sleepy 500%
I want a full on CGI transformers war on Cybertron movie
That is something i can watch for hours
+connor ricketts - one reason while I love Transformers Prime so much. It's about as close to that you can get.
Cyberverse has a lot of scenes on Cybertron, too. Even pre-war flashbacks.
@@decepticreep952 I'm gunna have to check that show out. I don't have CN so I may just buy the season
Bro I'm so with you on that. If they made the whole movie just like the first 2.5 minutes. Best Transformers movie ever!!
WizManBallin
No need to spend money yet - it’s on Hasbro’s CZcams channel. 😉
It seemed a bit rushed at times to me since the episode lengths are only about 10 minutes each (which IMO is too short since they seem to be trying to add in a lot of lore - or at least more plot than RiD 2015, yes I’m biased), and we’re having to wait until this fall or so to get the second season, but so far I’d say Cyberverse is well worth a watch. At first, I was afraid we’d get another RiD 2015, but it proved me wrong. Oh, and if you’re one of the people who tends to dislike human characters, you’re in for a pleasant surprise. 😉 So, yeah, I’ll stop rambling and recommend you check it out. 😄
In Bumblebee, I can actually tell who is who in he fight scenes
While in the Bay films, it looks like a bunch of red and black metal mating with each other.....
I always thought it looked like tin foil smashing into itself.
@@markcastellanet9672 damn we have the same problem with the bay formers
EXACTLY! The Bayformers design looks like they shredded an entire car, and built it into whatever mess of a transformer they make then attach wheels, side mirrors, and doors. And FINALLY they name it into one of our favorite Transformers and trigger us because they barely look like the OG characters.
@@magniwalterbutnotwaltermag1479 I meant with the bayformers. Bumblebee everything looks clear.
AGREED
When I saw the beginning of Bumblebee I was just in aww, fanboying it up in my seat, calling out characters I recognized from the G1 cartoon, and I love the Bay movies cause they look cool, Bumblebee was just... wowing for me
I’m a hardcore Optimus fan, and I gotta say, the BB Prime scene made me tear up
I love both Bumblebee and Optimus
BB = Bumblebee?
Yeah he is saying it is good
@@aman_409 I sorta wish iron hide had his two bayverse canons from the 1st movie
Understandable
I was very reluctant and skeptical to see Bumblebee. I gave up on the franchise after the Devastator scrotum scene.
This opening scene was everything the franchise should have been in the first place. Each character was recognizable. Loved it.
I never gave up on the franchise
The thing is, they never showed Megatron. Man that is so cool that even the big bad did not have to be apart of it to be cool.
I think they don’t want to show megatron for the “appearance of the big bad”
They want to show how formidable each troop is first
@@kryfa6279 True, they’ve now established individual decepticons are terrifying in their own right, and Megatron fought in the pits of Chaon, everything they are, he is infinitely more dangerous. Great way to build up suspense.
Not gonna lie, I was like "OMG OMG OMG" and on the verge of tears through the whole Cybertron battle sequence. It was just sooo right. Perfect.
When I sat down at the theater, and the room went dark, the logos went by, and the brief black screen stood before me, i did not know what to expect. Then the room filled with the orange glow of a battle ravaged cybertron with lazer bolts flying through the air, and my jaw dropped. Slowly that O shaped mouth curled up into a wide smile as the rest of the scene unfolded before me and it was the most genuine moment I’ve had in a movie theater in years. That was the moment i knew this movie was for the fans by the fans. I love this movie to death and this scene (plus the flashback) is everything i wanted to see in a transformers movie. I cannot wait for the future installments of this franchise and will support the creators no matter what, so long as they keep the same heart and soul in those movies as they did in here. And i pray that Travis Knight will come back for a few more movies, or at the very least, the final movie for what i hope and pray will be a successful, prosperous, and amazing movie franchise
Jo Vo Yes, yes, YASSS!!!!
"On a cold far away world a battle is waging between evil and good..."
I said something exactly like this on another Bumblebee video and I did the same thing. that scene really made the movie for me. I love thus movie so very much and the Cybetron scenes make me so hopeful for what the potential future movies could be.
i do believe my reaction to the opening was HOLY F***ING SH** NOW THIS IS TRANSFORMERS.
If the movie was just the opening sequence I wouldn't have been mad
TK Prime I totally agree!!!
I was actually happy
Agreed, the opening scene was the only part which i loved in bumblebee movie
This film made triple its budget, Age of Extinction set Hasbro/Paramount's expectations unrealistically high, and there's also a general problem with films right now where studios think that unless the film makes 500 million its a failure, that's kinda the MCU's fault
I was sick so I had to miss Bumblebee's premiere.
So, about a week later, we finally went to cinema.
There was me, my mom and like five other people, and I remember that there were these two guys sitting behind me and through out the whole Cybertron scene, the three of us were going INSANE.
Like, I literally cannot begin to describe how those three minutes alone made me happy. And all of those small features, like Prime's mask moving, seeing Telatraan 1 in the background for a second and just.... EVERYTHING ABOUT SOUNDWAVE.
Don't forget Shockwave, they got everything right about Shockwave.
As someone who grew up with the Bay films all I have to say is...
I loved it and want more of this, the designs were actually really cool, great story, and the fights were choreographed amazingly. I actually am glad that this will take the place for the new version as the live action movies.
same here
Same I love g1
Exactly. I'm 16, and the Bayverse is what got me into Transformers. But it sure as hell isn't what kept me.
Bumblebee is a huge step in the right direction. We just need to cement it before Lorenzo does anything stupid.
Same
@@orionlax626 I agree and Approve
Being a Transformers fan since G1. I was shocked and relieved to see the characters in a more iconic look.
I’ve been a Transformers fan only for the Bayformers movies
@@manuelorozco7760 same bayverse is the goat
@@kingslayerx1716 Awesome. They may not be worth watching over and over. But the effects are chef's kiss
@@manuelorozco7760 agreed
@@metal_fusion And being a millennial myself, I can believe that
The opening scene alone made me so happy. :D
Gavin says: takes me back to when I was four!!!!
Opening scene was the movie for me. Special.
I loved the first bay film when it came out in 2007. After that film I watched season 1-2 of generation 1 and soundwave became my favorite transformer. When revenge of the fallen came out I was excited to see soundwave, and was disappointed with his lack of screen time and dr claw voice. This scene was everything I ever wanted: “Decepticons attack” and “ravage eject”
In all fairness, G1 Soundwave was Doctor Claw performed by Frank Welker just with a heavily synthesized voice.
@@capmcrunch8591 true
The opening scene took me right back to being a 7-year-old watching the original cartoons before school.
Experiencing that Cybertron opening in the cinema was one of the greatest moments of my life! 😄
Definitely made my morning after Christmas with my brother two years ago
They actually looked like Robots rather than weird insect like creatures.
My reaction to watching this movie was: oh, it’s g1, I wonder how that would work ou- MAN I LOVE G1 Soundwave!
IKR? I love his Prime design, but I hated that he only had one minicon in it. I was way too happy when I saw him eject Ravage in the movie. 😂
slipperyfish Law his voice I epic tooo
Nothing to see here I like both versions
I just nerdgasmed during that opening scene and it brought tears to my eyes of happiness and awe. Especially the parts with Soundwave and Shockwave.
I saw bumblebee in the theatres as soon as it came on and I saw it was G1 tears almost came to my eyes I love how they brought Optimus Prime back to looking exactly like he did before
I love Optimus look along with Bumblebee.
Every time I watch the Cybertron scene, it’s just as good as the first time I saw it in the theaters.
Me during the opening scene of Bumblebee:
WHOOOOOOO! WHOOOOOOOO! WHOOOOOO! WHOOOOOO! YESSSSSSSS! YEEEEAAAAH! THIS IS THE BEST EVER! Is it over already?"
That makes the two of us brother
@@justanothergeek6379 I am so happy my dad grew up with G1, because he showed me Generation 1, a show that I have loved since I first saw it. I really hope more films can capture the feeling that Bumblebee gave us when it came to adventure, character, and story. Lorenzo, listen to ComedinCam!
Men I almost was crying 😂😂
@@coopergreen7961 Same, G1 in real-life was too beautiful.
@@justanothergeek6379 That Makes the three of us
I wasn't sure what to expect when I went in to see this movie. I'd seen the trailers and honestly that sold me a bit, but as soon as I saw Cybertron and the CLASSIC designs, my eyes were glued to the screen, and as soon as I heard Soundwave's voice, I knew I was going to love everything about it. I'd watch a whole movie of just the conflict on Cybertron, man. I want to see that.
I’m excited for the animated Cybertron movie directed by Josh Cooley
I’ve been a fan since G1 started airing. I hated the Bay movies, but I liked Bumblebee for the most part. I really enjoyed seeing this intro sequence. It really got me into the movie. I was hopeful that we’d see some of these other transformers at some point in the film. I was really excited to see Cliffjumper! I was super excited to have him in the movie but I was devastated that he was killed off so soon. It was horrible to have him just show up to be executed like that. He deserved better.
I LOVED the throwback Cybertron scenes...THIS IS THE MOVIE I WANT!! They need to just do an origin story for the war on Cybertron. I want to know why the civil war started, I want to see a NO HUMANS Transformers movie, make it happen please!!
I made my popcorn was half way done just by me watching the cybertron opening scene
Dang
The cybertron scene was perfection👌👌
Only one thing wrong...
WHERE WAS MEGATRON!?
Only one thing wrong, it wasn't the whole movie
1:42 My face during the Cybertron scenes. Spot on.
Except mine I was freaking out and out of my seat I think I embarrassed my friend a little 🤣🤣🤣🤣 I was so excited blurting our each characters name
@@smittyplays04 Yeah, my girlfriend said, that I was making some weird squeaking noises as well.
Big Fat Nerd 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣👌🏻
Mee tooo😁😁😉
Me making transforming noise while they transform lol (Chu Kuu Khuu)
I agree, although it was the appearance of a freightliner fl86 cab over rolling alongside Camero-bee at the end that made me happiest. I'm up for another one of these movies if it's done by the same team. You could feel their love in all of the little touches.
Amen to this video! The beginning is how all transformers movies should be.
You want an alien jet that looks like Megatron? TF Prime. He’s a cybertronian Jet (which is actually worked into his character, Megatron doesn’t give a crap about Earth at all in Prime) but he’s got his huge fusion canon on his arm, the bucket helmet.
I loved the opening sequence more than l can explain. I’d pay a lot to see a full length movie like that.
You and me both brother
KingSchwag 420 Me three
There are three things that make the Cybertron scene so good:
1) The designs show enough G1 influence while remaining fresh and new. It isn't just CGI models of G1... there are enough changes and touches to make them different and exciting. This allows the best of both worlds: you get the recognizability of the characters but with a new coat of paint
2) Using every moment to count. look how utterly quick the Cybetron scene goes... and just how much is put in there to tell even the most casual fan who these characters are. The Autobots are are a team working together, are in a bad situation, doing all they can to survive. Optimus is a heroic leader who charges in, saves lives, and then asks where one of his warriors is. Bumblebee is cocky and funny but he can back it up with his skill. Soundwave is TERRIFYING. The moment he, Shockwave, and Starscream appear Optimus instantly calls for a fallback. And the Decepticons rule differently from the Autobots. Optimus' order to fall back is said through desperation... Soundwave COMMANDS the Decepticons to attack. Shockwave COMMANDS to destroy the tower.
3) And finally, as you said, the action is easy to follow.
This director got it right. This is what Transformers fans wanted in a movie! I saw the previews of this and was like “I have to see this!”
I was so impressed after watching Bumblebbee! Specialy the first scene!!!
I loved this movie. And I hope to see more of Cybertron.
I got goosebumps watching the Cybertron sequence, best 2 mins out of all Transformers movies ever.
One thing that occurs to me, now rewatching this scene, I had noticed the first time that Optimus appears to already be in an earth based form (exterior sunvisors), all the other characters still are in cybertronian forms. If Optimus has identified Earth and shows the projected globe, has he already been to the planet and assumed his truck form? If so, that would be an interesting story line to go into.
1:45 come on, man, be honest. These sequences are the best live-action transformers moments by a long shot.
If Travis Knight could do a Unicron story, that would be amazing
You're absolutely right. The sound Soundwave males when he enters the scene, 80's phenomenal
Megatron would've made this scene better . But I'm fine with we've got too
Tamás Pákey I feel you on that one, but you gotta leave us something to look forward to in a possible sequel though. Like when Optimus was captured, he could be taken before Megatron as a way to introduce him for the next movie; at least it would’ve been a great after credits outro.
@@aztn19 Indeed .
Maybe Megatron was searching for the AllSpark and wasnt there
I feel the exact same way now I think of it.
SoLoMoN DaViDSoN You might have a point
I like shooting as action, as well as melee combat. It's harder to do, as lots of people find it disinteresting. This film does it.
And, y'know, G1.
Oh, and Megatron should be either a tank or something a little more out-there like a hovercraft.
This scene is Almost Perfect to the Entire Transformers Media, 4 Years later and this scene is still Legendary, The closest representation we Got to G1 in a Transformers Movie until now
The tape deck explosion cracked me up. Good work
When soundwave said “ravage eject” I got shivers
I like how he presented the transformers like soundwave and Optimus. Never really like Bay's over designed, and the quite useless Devastator.
Devastator was a disaster.
Comodin Cam this video was absolutely flawless sir. Thank you. I had a difficult time containing myself in the movie theater. I actually saw this movie in 3D!!! That opening scene was epic. It reminded me of the intro to Infinity War...just awesome. If this was a Hip Hop Album...it would remind me of the intro to Nas’ Illmatic I was like a kid all over again. Travis Knight was really onto something special.
This scene was so kickass.
Soundwave with Ravage ejecting gave me Deceptigasms..hahaha..
This is the only Transformers movie I bought. I stopped watching after the second one in theaters.
PNAM same. Bumblebee’s opening alone made it the only live-action Transformers movie worth buying!
I couldn't get myself to watch more than 20 minutes of the last one, but I loved this movie.
Same here! I love this movie so much and it has so much respect for G1 and it also has a lot of heart. This is the BEST live-action Transformers movie. I just hope that Travis Knight can return to the franchise and give us the fans more of what we want in this universe.
R Knight I loved this movie too
DJ Gamera Well Josh Cooley who directed Toy Story 4 is directing the animated Cybertron movie. But I want Knight to return as well
I gotta admit, Arcee looked damn sexy in the movie. And I never thought I'd ever say something like this about anything related to Transformers.
My daughter and wife were laughing so hard in the theater at how hard that opening scene had me geeking out as an 80's kid!
Laughing with you or at you?
@@manuelorozco7760 BOTH!😂🤣😂😁😂
Tony Stark Oh
Said it before and I'll say it again! Bumblebee was the Transformers movie we should have gotten 11 years ago! Yet I didn't mind having the iconic designs and simplicity of HmG1 and some of the modern intricacy of the Bay designs.
I think Bumblebee was great, favourite character from that was Dropkick, I don't partly mind the Bayverse movies, I can see why others don't like them, my views on the Bayverse.
2007 was OK, ROFT was my favourite, for a while, didn't really get behind DOTM, AOE, I wish there was more to it, TLK, I had high hopes and some moments I liked but the rest of the moments in that film were, pathetic.
And one finally thing, Megatron turning into a gun, I've alway's thought of him turning into a Gun + Tank combo, where he can turn into a tank but the turret can be detached from the base of the tank and used as a gun.
Harry Studio Productions But we all agree his death was kinda funny.
Why not have Megatron being a triple changer. A jet and a tank.
This one scene literally made the whole movie amazing
“CLIFF JUMPER” IS THE BEST TRANSFORMERS NAME I’VE EVER HEARD
I just love the opening sequence of Bumblebee. It set the stage perfectly for the movie! I expected it to be a slight improvement from past installments. And Bumblebee lived up to my anticipation. I didn’t care for explosions. I wanted real action and a reason for humans to be involved. It left me even more excited for the future with a Bumblebee sequel and animated Cybertron movie in the works at Paramount. The Autobots should team up with the Power Rangers in the future as well.
I could not AGREE more! I was so excited watching the opening scene on Cybertron. I was calling out the names of the characters on both sides, as they were introduced on the screen. It took me back to the 80's, and the wonderment I felt then. Of course, my wife and daughter were looking at me like I was crazy, but I just smiled and kept pointing out who was who. ;)
First time i watched bumblebee i was absolutely blown away by what i was seeing, i really hope the director gets to do a couple more and with more cybertron, his vision of transformers was true to G1 which was by far the best for good reason.
I love soundwave’s voice, it’s perfect
Shame it wasn't Frank Welker
When I went to see bumblebee I brought my friend who wasn't a fan and he really enjoyed it
I went with my brother and we’ve been fans since 2007
7:30 I will say that Megtron turned into a POWERFUL gun, that was kinda the point.
He took his bazuka-like blaster and confined it down to a pinpoint shot that in the hands of any sharp shooter would be a huge advantage over their normal weapon.
The downside is he required a sharp shooter like StarScream to use him and it was suppose to be a "honour" that Starscream got to wield him. A honour that Starscream didn't appricate enough. The main problem was Megatron was at a disadvantage while in his robot form since he lacked the manuveuring skills and was a slower shooter, which while in gun form was not a problem (he fired faster). Least this is the theory.
The Cybertron scene was amazing. We need more.
When I saw the G-1 designs in the trailers I thought I was either high or just dreaming.
I was full on cheering thought out this whole scene, and calling out each character’s name as they came onscreen. I was beyond elated. Hearing Soundwave’s voice just put me over the edge. I want MORE!
During this ONE scene I was squirming in my seat. I can't say I've done this for any bayformer movie.
The scene literally made me jump out of my seat and said to my friend now that's Transformers. It's one of the only films that have made me feel this much enjoyment and feel like a franchise had a future. It's one of the reasons why Bumblebee is my favorite film of all time next to Endgame
I think Bumblebee is better than Endgame. But to each their own
that is why they need to make a whole movie just like the opening scene...
No more explosions in Transformers Movies only for the Action scenes.
I think that was the problem. Bay's series was just one huge action scene. No pacing, no calm sections. Firing on all cylinders constantly.
I hope future Transformers Movies focuses more on story and less on action.
Omega Maximus I need more than just worth IMAX money
Easily the best part of the live action transformers movies so far have been the 5 mins on cybertron here.
I wasn't blown away by the rest of the movie, thinking it was soso, but the cybertron part left me wanting more.
I had the happy tears going at the opening scene. Was a bit disappointed that it was so short but it gives me hope I can burn the Bayforners. The happy tears going again at the end showing Bumblebee and Optimus driving together across the Golden Gate.
I like the beginning scene where the Autobots and Deceptions fight on Cybertron
For me, the one surprising addition to those appearing in the Cybertron sequence was Brawn.
I never thought he'd ever be rescued from obscurity.
Outside of some rare moments in G1, his death being the first in the movie and his briefly seen TF Animated appearance; he's never really gotten his time in the limelight.
he was running to a pod when they got to the tower, maybe he got patched up by ratchet
@@rosecomet18 He's a tough cookie so a shot like that only floored him.
The only reason he died in the G1 movie was cos all the Autobots were low on Energon.
RW:im surprised that Megatron didnt show up for that Cybertron Scene,you could just imagine if Frank Welker still had done Megatron s voice,it would have been more nostalgic.😁
As a starscream fan I was a little sad when he didn't speak but still seeing him in his original G1 form alongside deceptions fighting just left my mouth open I hope that soon they make a live action movie just about them in cybertron.
the design of the robots are (to me) a combination of the g1 and fall of cybertron feel
when seeing the opening scene, i was extremely fan boying in my seat shouting out the ones I recognized!!
There is almost no doubt that majority of the fans would prefer a movie of that Cybertron style instead of being all realistic on Earth. As soon as I saw this scene I was reminded of War for Cybertron. Shockwave and Soundwave being my favorite Transformers of all time also made this scene mean so much to me, 1 min scene > Bay films
The only thing the scene was missing was Shia LaBeouf saying nonononono
Yeah, and screaming "OPTIMUUUSS!!!" or "BUMBLEBEE!!!"
Or him witnessing prime’s death.
@@BasedVegeta
Ha, I mean yeah, look how you got killed by him in the most humiliating way in DOTM!
@@BasedVegeta that death was funny but it was better than you getting killed by rainbow dash in death battle
@@BasedVegeta no need to get triggered screamer i wasn't the one who's indestructible spark was eaten by a stupid talking blue pony with wings no wonder why Megatron beats you all the time
Watching that opening scene in IMAX was mind blowing
I actually saw it on a regular screen. If the scene was filmed in IMAX, I would have changed my mind.
I really enjoyed the movie with all the references to the old G1. It was great
I would much rather watch bumblebee over any of the Michael bay movies.
100
I have only see Bumblebee twice but it does have some slight rewatch quality
you can get more of that scene in 'WAR FOR CYBERTRON', if you haven't played it yet..
Let’s hope they keep making G1 inspired movies.
Every Cybertron scene needs to resemble G1, or be full on War for/ Fall of Cybertron games.
dude *Simple is better* only kids from the 90's would understand that
And the 80's
That was brilliant, Sound wave was always my favourite, the rest of the movie made the mistake of the humans being too prevalent
The mix tap one 😂😂😂
Love the fall for Cybertron soundtrack in the background
I think this was the best Transformers Movie so far. I do not like any of the Michael Bay Versions at all.
Dark of the moon was not that bad
Payton Shaffer tbh all the first 3 were good
@@notjaashun8705 yeah
I actually do like them don’t get me wrong. But I don’t think I can look at them from the same perspective again. I think Bumblebee is #1 too
Cookie Snugglez I just wish Megan Fox stayed and the ending wasn’t rushed
Great video and everything said was spot on... G1 rules! Let’s hope we see more of it in future movies
it was fantastic. I'd love a full length film in that style. I didn't realise there were so many references to the original film.
When me and my friend first watched Bumblebee we went absolutely ballistic with the opening scene and especially when Soundwave said “Ravage eject”