What To Look For When Buying A Guitar Online

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  • In this episode Dave Onorato, Rhett Shull and I discuss what to look for when buying a guitar online. What to look for in pictures and what to ask the seller.
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  • @michaelmusgrove476
    @michaelmusgrove476 Pƙed 2 lety +79

    Rick: “I never buy guitars” sitting in front of a rack of 50 dream axes.

    • @russell33313
      @russell33313 Pƙed 2 lety +2

      😆

    • @robertdesertrider2694
      @robertdesertrider2694 Pƙed 10 měsĂ­ci +8

      In 2022 I sold my 78’ Les Paul for 60k, plus a lot of trades, to a friend and bought a Lava Red Epiphone Les Paul off EBay for $284. I’m not humoring the “98%” argument. They sound and feel the exact same. It’s the same Freaking guitar! Two identical 60’s sound and feel different; Time for players to grow out of “Vintage Worship.”
      Everything else is Cope.
      Cheer!😂🎉
      Edit: Fun Fact: One of the trades was a 1977 Nova; looks ugly and I still drive it!

    • @cheapmagic5898
      @cheapmagic5898 Pƙed 8 měsĂ­ci +1

      Right?! That is a relatively low amount of guitars, good job Rick!

    • @ethanfullerton507
      @ethanfullerton507 Pƙed 5 měsĂ­ci +1

      ​@robertdesertrider2694 $60K? Right... They sell for $4kish all day on Reverb. And your Epi might be great for YOU. That's awesome. But not for me, it doesn't excite me, the sound isn't to my liking without having to swap pickups. I'll stick with my vintage Les Paul Customs.

    • @zeroceiling
      @zeroceiling Pƙed 3 měsĂ­ci

      @@robertdesertrider2694
You sold a 1978 Les Paul for $60,000? You have got to be kidding. A killer 1976 with not a mark on it just sold on Craigslist locally for $4800.00 How in the world did you get $60K?..to a friend no less


  • @TimBoulette
    @TimBoulette Pƙed 2 lety +331

    Every guitarist needs a friend like Dave.

    • @CMHobbies
      @CMHobbies Pƙed 2 lety +9

      My friend who is like Dave told me to never buy a Gibson without playing it first. So buying one online is a no go for me.

    • @rroades
      @rroades Pƙed 2 lety +5

      Can you get Daves at Walmart? I know my local Guitar Center does carry them
😏

    • @thumplife792
      @thumplife792 Pƙed 2 lety +11

      @@CMHobbies if it's year 2000+ you can shorten that statement to never buy a Gibson. Even though Gibson is my favorite brand, I've bought Epiphones that were better quality.

    • @sk11ff
      @sk11ff Pƙed 2 lety +4

      @@deadshot4245 yeah... Mahogoni neck TOTALY change tone compare with maple neck. 99.999% people hear no differnce between theese two. So dont get scammed by this bs

    • @thumplife792
      @thumplife792 Pƙed 2 lety +3

      Epiphones are great instruments. Especially to mod!

  • @ForTheBanterNI
    @ForTheBanterNI Pƙed 2 lety +124

    Everyone needs a Dave. He is a wealth of knowledge; protect him at all costs!!

  • @TIMxisxHERE
    @TIMxisxHERE Pƙed 2 lety +153

    As woodworker/botanist, I felt the need to answer Dave's question:
    The difference between Mahogany and Maple comes from the grain pattern.
    Normally, when talking about 'sturdiness' of wood, you look at several elements, such as: Hardness, shock resistance and decay. Maple has really good shock absorption, but that is a completely negligible trait for a guitar neck. Mahogany has a much thighter grain pattern which makes it more resilient to being bent/misformed over time (density is something else).
    Another thing is that there are MANY different kinds of Maple in the market. With Mahogany that is much less the case. Normally, pale sapwood would be the most ideal kind of Maple, but that is also a very expensive kind. -Afaik- Most guitar-makers do not specify what kind of Maple they use so they can ask top-prices for low quality Maple. I would assume the former and/or the latter causes this difference in the necks of those Les Pauls.

    • @athmaid
      @athmaid Pƙed 2 lety +2

      Isn't maple heartwood quite a bit darker than sapwood? Personally I've never seen a maple neck that had that darker reddish colour that I would associate with maple heartwood. The Wood Database also says that unlike with other wood types, with maple usually the sapwood is used instead of the heartwood. The sapwood "ring" looks rather small for maple, that might explain why quarter sawn maple necks aren't exactly cheap even considering that the process creates more waste as is. Please let me know if I understood all of that completely wrong though! By the way, would it make more sense to glue together multiple pieces of quarter sawn lumber for a body or should you just use a plain sawn slab?

    • @shanealan2995
      @shanealan2995 Pƙed 2 lety +1

      I have a 78 pro deluxe with ebony board. No issues. It was routed out for humbuckers in the 80s.

    • @NK-bz9wb
      @NK-bz9wb Pƙed 2 lety +2

      Awesome info, thank you

    • @zwerko
      @zwerko Pƙed 2 lety +13

      _Maple has really good shock absorption, but that is a completely negligible trait for a guitar neck._
      Clearly a person who never had to beat somebody with a guitar neck 😜

    • @levigoldsteinbergowitz7391
      @levigoldsteinbergowitz7391 Pƙed 2 lety

      Ive seen makers specify birdseye maple vs other kinds but never any other kind of wood unless an exotic

  • @rejiluz3465
    @rejiluz3465 Pƙed 2 lety +45

    Dave should have his own CZcams channel... A very fascinating man with all his knowledge of guitars... Great talk guys!...

  • @thumplife792
    @thumplife792 Pƙed 2 lety +20

    Petition for a new title: "Why Dave Onorato is priceless." In all seriousness, after I got burned on Reverb one time I decided to become a luthier (I was also tired of paying ridiculous prices for what I later learned were simple mods), as well as learn everything I could about the different eras of models like Les Pauls, Strats, etc. After a couple years, and a lot of money spent on project guitars, I became quite a good luthier. My knowledge increased on what to look for as well. Both things actually led to a really nice side business with my wife buying and selling mostly vintage guitars on Reverb. She isn't a musician, but she fell in love with researching them and learning with me. Now she's an amazing treasure hunter!

    • @marcofioravanti4176
      @marcofioravanti4176 Pƙed 2 lety +3

      What a clever move: "She" is buying them! Now a find a way to hide and keep some of those guitars! 😀

    • @marcofioravanti4176
      @marcofioravanti4176 Pƙed 2 lety +1

      @@jmabs5096 Great feedback! But thatÂŽs, what life is. Nobody can have all advantages and only advantages. But one one can have enough advantages to be considered enjoying a happy life.
      (Sry for the "whacky" english - IÂŽm german..)

    • @DaveTaste
      @DaveTaste Pƙed 2 lety

      Lol

    • @marcofioravanti4176
      @marcofioravanti4176 Pƙed 2 lety +1

      @@jmabs5096 😀

  • @paulanderson6511
    @paulanderson6511 Pƙed 2 lety +14

    My favorite Beato episodes have Dave and Rhett! More please!

  • @Rings-of-Saturn2
    @Rings-of-Saturn2 Pƙed 2 lety +24

    A bad day with an upload from Rick Beato automatically becomes a good day.

  • @stevekerans6357
    @stevekerans6357 Pƙed 2 lety +3

    Watching a second time just because it's fun to see three amigos hangin' out... talkin' guitars and havin' a beer or two

  • @RC32Smiths01
    @RC32Smiths01 Pƙed 2 lety +83

    Seeing you guys band together again beings me joy. Always enjoyed and appreciated the knowledge you three bring to the table.

    • @klchu
      @klchu Pƙed 2 lety +6

      It's fun to watch them just chat about things they love. They could do a podcast.

  • @richardrejmer8721
    @richardrejmer8721 Pƙed 2 lety +2

    Rick. . This is YOUR show. . But I *LOVE* how you let your guests talk. . and continue to talk - when they have something worthwhile to say. .
    You don't hog the camera or dominate the conversation because it's YOUR show. .
    You have guests who you respect for their knowledge and experience and so you let them speak about that knowledge and experience. .
    You don't interrupt. . and on the rare occasion when they might interrupt you - you don't get annoyed or upset about it. . You let them have their say and then you go back when they finish to complete what you were saying.
    Well done to you!

  • @CaffeineInjected
    @CaffeineInjected Pƙed 2 lety +1

    Everybody needs a DAVE. I was just thinking this and Tim below already commented. 100% Tim. We all need a Dave

  • @BushImports
    @BushImports Pƙed 2 lety +3

    it's a great thing you have a friend like Dave.

  • @jacobbrooks2290
    @jacobbrooks2290 Pƙed 2 lety +76

    I wanna see a video with you guys jamming together. I’d like to see Rick put his licks to work within context. It’d be overall awesome to see.

    • @michaellnbnj
      @michaellnbnj Pƙed 2 lety +1

      Would love to see this too!

    • @owaisfazil1464
      @owaisfazil1464 Pƙed 2 lety +1

      Yes! That would be fun to watch

    • @TheCravenIsReal
      @TheCravenIsReal Pƙed 2 lety +3

      Right!? and tired of him saying he's not a guitarist- the dude has major league chops for sure

    • @folfutura1716
      @folfutura1716 Pƙed 2 lety +1

      What a really great requst!
      I too would like a ticket for such a session.

  • @kraftwerk974
    @kraftwerk974 Pƙed 2 lety +2

    Cool to hear 3 friends talking of their favourite theme.

  • @CurtHowland
    @CurtHowland Pƙed 2 lety +15

    I've had the same guitar for 50 years. I've swapped the neck once, the pickups, and rewired it at least twice. Just like my ax that's had two new heads and 5 new handles.

    • @RealJomo
      @RealJomo Pƙed 2 lety +4

      That's like the Ship of Theseus of the ax world 😊

  • @michaelr148
    @michaelr148 Pƙed 2 lety +6

    Most of my favorite Beato vids are when the three of you are together. You all give each other enough space, just as a good musician would!

  • @Andrea_Manconi
    @Andrea_Manconi Pƙed 2 lety +3

    I've NEVER liked a red LP... Except for this. This is stunning.

  • @LUckybones25
    @LUckybones25 Pƙed 2 lety +2

    Dave knows his stuff!

  • @ezyrider556
    @ezyrider556 Pƙed 2 lety +4

    The best advice from this video is be patient and don’t impulse buy. You’ll find what your looking in time

  • @miketaylor7057
    @miketaylor7057 Pƙed 2 lety +5

    Fellas. Great video. Appreciate the discussion. We all need friends like Dave!,,

  • @lagrock
    @lagrock Pƙed 2 lety +5

    Dave Onorato is da bomb. I love the guy. He's worked on 4 on my guitars. Visits to his shop are always enjoyable - for the "shop talk", the technical education, and the history of the instrument. Dave is truly a guitar mensch.

  • @mattvanslooten9993
    @mattvanslooten9993 Pƙed 2 lety +2

    A need to be Dave’s friend. What an incredible resource.

  • @jimmerriman6920
    @jimmerriman6920 Pƙed rokem

    "To avoid regret, sell to move up", excellent advice.

  • @robbieg3113
    @robbieg3113 Pƙed 2 lety +66

    I bought a very well used Les Paul gold top from reverb about a year ago. It’s pretty beat up but i find myself picking it up and playing it more than any expensive guitar I own. I just don’t have to worry about it getting dinged up so I instinctively play it more.

    • @RaptorV1USA
      @RaptorV1USA Pƙed 2 lety +6

      My philosophy exactly except it for me and my budget...it is the excellent quality guitars from overseas between $2-$450 available today...
      I can't afford a 2k or $1500 les paul (as if lol),.... but I can afford a cpl of nice well built asian knock offs that at $200-$300 new, with proper quality upgrades, add up to about $350 - $450
      they play beautifully, sound awesome, and WHEN it falls off a stand, gets bumped into a wall, amp, door way, dropped & scratched etc. i'm good.
      I just know if I had a clean real 2k+ Les Paul, of any vintage,......at my income it would be an investment & it would live in the case.

    • @wiscostrongman3430
      @wiscostrongman3430 Pƙed 2 lety +9

      @@RaptorV1USA eh! Let em get scratched
.who cares? Dont do it on purpose but play the thing! If the bass player bumps it, thats character
.it you smack it into your amp
.whoops, thats more character
..every scratch tells a story. Guitars are tools. Play em, take care of em the best you can, forget the rest

    • @spiceweasel945
      @spiceweasel945 Pƙed 2 lety +1

      I’ve just come to realise that my ‘Vintage’ Les Paul copy (from a guitar shop on Denmark st in London) we’ll set up, is actually a better guitar and nicer to play than my expensive 87 Gibson ES347 and is what I like to pick up
 it’s a bittersweet feeling after obsessing over the Gibson for ages but just never really gibing with it. Might sell it and get a Fender Strat. đŸ€·đŸŒâ€â™‚ïž

    • @alwaysopen7970
      @alwaysopen7970 Pƙed 2 lety

      I have an early 70's Goldtop I beat up during several years of dragging it around to gigs. All honest wear and no breaks. I am the 3rd owner, the 1st owner routed out the bridge baby pup for a full sized humbucker. Too many did that back then. I would rather have a straight Deluxe.

    • @ricardothelionhearted3725
      @ricardothelionhearted3725 Pƙed 2 lety

      @@RaptorV1USA You can find some decent Epiphones in that range.And if you're willing to clean a guitar up,set it up and etc,you can find a inexpensive nice one.I bought a Epi. Les Paul Classic,quilt top for between $350-$380 from guitar center.It's been a couple of years now.

  • @Big_Bag_of_Pus
    @Big_Bag_of_Pus Pƙed rokem +3

    As I'm sitting here listening to Dave describe the advice he's given Rick on specific purchases, I'm thinking "yeah, this is great, but most of us don't have a Dave!"

  • @howardthrust
    @howardthrust Pƙed 2 lety +2

    A VERY comprehensive discussion about buying "USED" gits online...in just over 30 minutes, no less! I would recommend changing the title, though--as you really didn't discuss anything having to do with "NEW" units...and YES, that topic deserves discussion; as there are no guarantees that "new" is necessarily going to equate with "right for you"...for a whole bunch of reasons.

  • @boysothebog
    @boysothebog Pƙed 2 lety +2

    I could watch these three guys chatting all day😁

  • @ronniechun-akana6433
    @ronniechun-akana6433 Pƙed 2 lety +3

    GREAT INFORMATION, YES WE NEED A DAVE. Thank you Rick.

  • @ShiningHourPop
    @ShiningHourPop Pƙed 2 lety +4

    Rhett, if you get yourself a second hand 12 String Rickenbacker you need to make sure there are no cracks in the R tailpiece. Plenty of Rick owners have opened their cases to find the R has ‘exploded’. The 6 string tailpieces are fine.

  • @thebh8016
    @thebh8016 Pƙed 2 lety +4

    I've dealt with Matt at Action Guitars, it's a great shop - I'm sure that he's loving the shout out. He really has quality gear...

  • @arsonor
    @arsonor Pƙed 2 lety +2

    I purchased a guitar from EBay years ago for the original retail cost. It was in fantastic condition with all original parts. I feel so lucky.

  • @GrenOulio
    @GrenOulio Pƙed 2 lety +5

    That's funny about LPs suffering from twisted headstocks. A friend of mine had a vintage LP, maybe late 70s, which he lent me for a gig. And, as I was tuning up the headstock snapped off in my hand!

    • @snezakovic
      @snezakovic Pƙed 2 lety +2

      wow what a bummer :( , sorry to hear that ,I hope you are still friends :)

    • @GrenOulio
      @GrenOulio Pƙed 2 lety

      @@Shagley it was a shock!

  • @russellward4624
    @russellward4624 Pƙed 2 lety +13

    I've bought quite a few guitars on reverb and ebay and the best advice is to ask lots of specific questions. That way if its not as advertised especially with ebay they'll refund you 100% with no trouble. I recieved a damaged guitar and the guy tried to claim I damaged it on purpose to get a refund. Contacted ebay and they refunded me straight away no hassle.
    Had 1 from reverb where I asked about the frets and was told they were in great shape when it arrived they weren't. But because I had specifically asked about it and was misinformed I got $150 knocked off to have the frets dressed. It's my favorite playing guitar.

  • @gingerbill128
    @gingerbill128 Pƙed rokem +1

    My favourite videos are you and Rhett and Dave together . I'm someone who knows nothing and doesn't play and just watches for fun and to learn a little. And these videos are always fun.

  • @sfcmp7005
    @sfcmp7005 Pƙed 2 lety +1

    I know I waited probably 8 months before I finally bought the Les Paul I got a few months ago. Plus I happened upon it, in a guitar store 1500 miles from where I live. I was there visiting, went to a Guitar Center for some strings, and there it was. I left with strings, they just happened to be connected to the Les Paul. I was thrilled to find it, because I was able to get a couple hundred bucks knocked off, and it was exactly what I was looking to get. The credit card advice is spot on! I never buy anything guitar related that's expensive, without using a card.

  • @johnkropp398
    @johnkropp398 Pƙed 2 lety +5

    As a lefty, online is a blessing. I’ve bought 4 guitars online, 2 used and 2 new. All great results.

    • @DaveTaste
      @DaveTaste Pƙed 2 lety

      Still gay though innit.

  • @wildbillnj1975
    @wildbillnj1975 Pƙed 2 lety +5

    Look at the end of a log, and the tree's growth rings. Draw a giant + aligned with the center of the rings. Boards cut along (or very close to) the + will have grain that goes straight through from one side to the other, at close to a 90° angle to both faces of the board, like this: |||||||||||||||||| or (((((((((((. That's quartersawn.
    If the grain runs mostly parallel to the face of the board, that's flatsawn: =======
    If the grain runs between 30°-60° to the face, it's riftsawn: /////////////
    They all have different properties w.r.t. warping, twisting, cupping, appearance, and strength in each different direction. Quartersawn tends to be expensive because the geometry of a tree only yields something like 20%-30% quartersawn, and it takes more labor to do so.
    Sometimes you can be creative with joinery and put two or more pieces together to achieve the strength and stability of quartersawn with cheaper cuts, but you're usually sacrificing appearance.
    And that's what paint is for.

  • @michaelcreel6778
    @michaelcreel6778 Pƙed 2 lety +2

    I'm just a bass player, but that blue LP is outstanding! 👌

  • @jonh901271
    @jonh901271 Pƙed 2 lety +24

    Excellent point about how upgrades can diminish the value of an instrument, especially a collectible guitar. I picked up a used Squire P-Bass at a garage sale for $50. I made it my project bass and upgraded the bridge, pickups, and pots, plus worked on shielding the electronics to cut down on electronic buzz. After all the parts costs and time I invested, I'm guessing that my Squire is now worth about $50. lol My point is this: I had a ton of fun working on it and I learned a bunch about bass components, instrument setup, and how to work on a bass. Plus, with a nice set of flat-wounds, it sounds fairly decent.

    • @SonovaBish
      @SonovaBish Pƙed 2 lety +1

      I end up changing parts, even on Gibsons. I keep the original Gibson parts, so I can go back to stock. The cheaper guitars are improved by most changes.

  • @F.O.H.
    @F.O.H. Pƙed 2 lety +5

    Wish you would do more group chats with the 3 of you. It ends up being some of the most interesting stuff you don't need a degree to understand on your channel.

  • @jamesatkinson4386
    @jamesatkinson4386 Pƙed 2 lety +3

    Excellent talk. Very informative.

  • @howardthrust
    @howardthrust Pƙed 2 lety +3

    BTW, it's very astute of y'all to feature Lay-Pauls and Acoustics in this discussion: as they are both potentially VERY sketchy to purchase without trying them out "in person". I kind of "lucked-out" just before "The Holidays" in my pursuit of an "under-$1500" L/P. Virtually all I was finding were "de facto fixer-uppers" in that range, but (of all sources!) Guitar Center Tacoma, WA over-delivered MAJORLY on a 2013 Honeyburst Studio Deluxe II...for UNDER a G, no less!!

  • @JR-pr8jb
    @JR-pr8jb Pƙed rokem

    Every NEW instrument I've bought from big online distributers has had quality glitches. Used purchases have all been good, because the sellers were individuals. Amazing how honest and helpful individuals can be.

  • @kingcormack8004
    @kingcormack8004 Pƙed 2 lety +10

    Rick cracks himself up with inside producer jokes. I love this dude.

  • @ChrisB...
    @ChrisB... Pƙed 2 lety +35

    Great video! Only guitar I've bought sight unseen was my Seagull Artist Mosaic. The model had been discontinued the week I placed the order, but the factory fired up the line again just to finish my guitar. So cool of them! It's fun knowing I own the last original Artist Mosaic they ever made.

    • @snezakovic
      @snezakovic Pƙed 2 lety +2

      if that's true story is awesomely cool :)

    • @VivianLund
      @VivianLund Pƙed 2 lety +5

      That is so cool. I have a Seagull Artist Mosaic and bought it online as well. I was so impressed with my daughter’s Seagull that I took a chance, and it’s fantastic.

    • @MetalRob81
      @MetalRob81 Pƙed 2 lety +4

      Seagulls are the best bang for the buck, when it comes to acoustic guitars!! They're amazing guitars

    • @Ratchman_5000
      @Ratchman_5000 Pƙed 2 lety +3

      Bought an S6 about 6 years ago and I love it. Did a lot of research beforehand and most people say Seagull punches way above their weight class.

    • @facelessandnameless
      @facelessandnameless Pƙed 2 lety +2

      That’s awesome!

  • @ThomasMetal75
    @ThomasMetal75 Pƙed rokem +1

    This is super great information to remember if you want to spend money wisely. I've learned a lot from watching this that I'll never forget.

  • @bimscutney1242
    @bimscutney1242 Pƙed 2 lety +2

    I freaking love that Pelham Blue LP and his signature blue LP Special.

  • @PTguitars
    @PTguitars Pƙed 2 lety +4

    I bought a 2014 HH Stratocaster in Wembley, UK - they advertised it as "Store Display"- I sent them a mail asking for photos of the guitar. The response was amazing - the guitar was with stickers and case candy and everything and looking ace. It was a real bargain too. I love this weird Stratocaster that has a beautiful humbucker tone. It is a beautiful Sunburst. Only detail is I put 2 treble bleed circuits in in, since it has 2 volume pots and 1 tone.

  • @jaygallamore562
    @jaygallamore562 Pƙed 2 lety +5

    Good stuff! I built a couple parts-casters last year. One was a really cheap entry level Fender. It was a good project to learn on and make mistakes. I then invested in Warmoth neck and body plus good hardware and electronics and ended up with a good guitar I love. The biggest thing I learned is I’m not a builder and in the future will leave major repairs to experts like Dave. Keep up the good work, I have learned a lot from all of you!

  • @ianedmonds9191
    @ianedmonds9191 Pƙed 2 lety +1

    I was 18 (1992) when I had the bridge pickup replaced with a multibucker on my new Ibanez RG570. Microswitch to tap bothe humbuckers - great pickup.
    I pulled the single coil blade out of my old Ninja Nighthawk and soldered in the V2 from the Ibanez.
    The guitar turned out to be pre-routed for humbuckers so happy days.
    It sounded amazing after that.
    I was given a schaller single coil neck pickup which I soldered in as well.
    That guitar had a Horrible locking bridge that never worked and had to be blocked to maintain tuning.
    Other than that - Fantastic guitar. Taught me so much.
    I later gave it to the singer in my band. She didn't have an electric.
    I wonder if anyone plays it anymore?
    Partscasters are a learning experience and a labour of love.
    Once you outgrow them the right thing is always to give them away.
    I bought that guitar for ÂŁ110 with a hard case.
    That was a bargain even in 91.
    Still use the case.
    :-)
    Luv and Peace.

  • @charlo2372
    @charlo2372 Pƙed 2 lety +2

    All my love from Quebec, Canada

  • @alxdelrge
    @alxdelrge Pƙed 2 lety +3

    I bought my last guitar online from Righteous Guitars based on Rhett’s videos and their reputation. The fact that it was from that shop pushed me past my normal trepidation.

  • @b.o.353
    @b.o.353 Pƙed 2 lety +4

    When buying a guitar at a pawn shop that only has five strings because one of them broke... just put it back and walk away. I got home and strung up the missing string and the bridge came out with the tension. As is.

  • @TheProducers
    @TheProducers Pƙed 2 lety +1

    With the three amigos, you always get a great show!

  • @riseofthemachine2623
    @riseofthemachine2623 Pƙed 2 lety +1

    Dave is Rick's Guitar Swiss Army Knife. A Luthier/repair guy I know told he he's lost count of how many Les Paul repairs have been brought to him with broken head stocks

  • @giulianodemedici7641
    @giulianodemedici7641 Pƙed 2 lety +14

    Bought many many guitars online and even from overseas. Agree with Dave that you need to closely examine the photos and the seller’s feedback. I would say that you shouldn’t hesitate to buy a guitar that has been very played,if it looks like it has been loved and not just beaten up. That’s the real relic that can so many pay big bucks for.

  • @frogbastard
    @frogbastard Pƙed 2 lety +3

    I always love it when you 3 guys get together.Informative,entertaining and fun to watch.

  • @billvs6505
    @billvs6505 Pƙed 2 lety +2

    Great episode. As an aside, I have a 1971 Guild D40 that I bought new when I was in college. The $350 that it cost then broke the bank (mine anyway). Not a year after I bought it, I dropped a heavy hair brush on it, putting a huge split on the top. Can't tell you how sick that made me. My girlfriend (now my wife) happened to work at a furniture refinishing store in Annapolis, MD across the street from a start-up guitar maker named Paul Reed Smith. I took it to him, and his repair was perfect. (I've heard he's gone on to great things...). I still have the guitar, have taken it all around the country with me, and it sounds amazing. Other than a big, self-inflicted crack in the top, no other quality issues at all. It's held up great over 50 years!

  • @MichaelClearyBand
    @MichaelClearyBand Pƙed 2 lety +2

    I just got a dedicated Nashville guitar. My tech replaced the nut and adjusted the neck. Love it. This episode is awesome!

  • @markg454
    @markg454 Pƙed 2 lety +3

    Dave rules! These collabs with you and Rhett are fantastic.

  • @ravensmead1558
    @ravensmead1558 Pƙed 2 lety +4

    My thing is mid 80's Japanese Tokais , they're great to play and are worth 2 or 3 times what I paid for them , I don't have enough money to gamble on Fenders and Gibsons , loved the video , its great to hang with you guys , Love from Scotland !!

  • @Nathan-ng1kp
    @Nathan-ng1kp Pƙed 2 lety +1

    yes, the gang's back together!

  • @drleinad
    @drleinad Pƙed 2 lety +1

    Only guitar I bought without playing is my Greco Les Paul 1981, the best guitar I own

  • @ddnsconsulting
    @ddnsconsulting Pƙed 2 lety +5

    Thank you Rick and the guys. Great advice. I’ve also found it helpful to head over to the twoodfrd channel from time to time. Ted is a Canadian luthier who has probably forgotten more than most know (except Dave!) about repairs and dealing with problem acoustics.

  • @djmoulton1558
    @djmoulton1558 Pƙed 2 lety +42

    I think a better explanation of "quarter-sawn" is that all the lines of the wood grain are 90° to the width of the piece of lumber.

    • @djmoulton1558
      @djmoulton1558 Pƙed 2 lety

      Even better.

    • @TheGreatAtario
      @TheGreatAtario Pƙed 2 lety

      That seems like it would make for a much weaker piece of wood

    • @halhammond6831
      @halhammond6831 Pƙed 2 lety

      Seems you’re wrong. Quartersawn is better. Carpenters and luthiers know this.

    • @TheGreatAtario
      @TheGreatAtario Pƙed 2 lety +2

      @@halhammond6831 The problem is these descriptions are terrible. I was imagining cutting the wood as discs across the log by reading them. I advise anyone trying to figure this out to do a Google image search instead

    • @MaebyBaby486
      @MaebyBaby486 Pƙed 2 lety +3

      Quarter sawn is cutting the log at the middle down the length of the log. Then cutting each half down the center length of those. You end up with 4 equal pieces of the log. Hence, a quarter sawn log. So any piece you cut from any quarter of the log, using a cut side down on a table saw, yields a board with tight wood grain.

  • @sonnybaker8928
    @sonnybaker8928 Pƙed 2 lety +1

    My dad worked for Ampex from like 73 until 95.. that is pretty cool to see. Ampex always did make the best tape.

  • @frankquinn1296
    @frankquinn1296 Pƙed 2 lety +2

    Even the big guys dont get string alignment right, I bought a Clapton Blackie , that the high E was hanging of the end of the fret board. Thankfully I have a very reliable guitar tech , cost me , but I got it fixed

  • @EliBleu
    @EliBleu Pƙed 2 lety +8

    As a guitar player who buys many instruments I can totally appreciate how damn interesting this video is.. Well done guys . One of the guitars I feel confident buying online sight unseen and never had a problem with is the Parker Fly ... imo Carbon Fiber = Bulletproof .. And btw that is a gorgeous pelham blue LP!!!

  • @PineconeTheory
    @PineconeTheory Pƙed 2 lety +4

    Love the videos with you, Dave and Rhett. I hope Dave makes a CZcams channel one day, seems like he has so much knowledge. As a beginner guitar ist, his set-up tips are very insightful.

  • @sn7miller
    @sn7miller Pƙed 2 lety +2

    You guys cracked me up about the putting $1500 into a $600 guitar and now it's worth $800. I have an appraisal company and I see people doing same with their houses ...Ex; they're in a $600-750k neighborhood and plug 250k into their house, with a mediocre remodel and think their house is now worth over 1mil. Then they can't understand how the appraisal came in at 800K. It's called an overimprovement. Didn't realize that happens much with guitars. I'd rather buy new guitars than spend much on existing ones.

  • @killyourtelevision
    @killyourtelevision Pƙed 2 lety

    Great discussion.

  • @markbardagjy5009
    @markbardagjy5009 Pƙed 2 lety +3

    Easy way to understand quarter sawn lumber. Think of your solid top acoustic. That lumber is perfectly quarter sawn. If the top was flat sawn it would have split years ago. Wood typically splits perpendicular to the growth lines, so from the center of the log to the edge. So you could actually split 'quarter sawn' boards, from a log, splitting along the natural fracture lines, the strongest and most stable possible. Good start for a guitar top...

  • @rockinvida1960
    @rockinvida1960 Pƙed 2 lety +6

    So true what Dave said about over improving Partscasters! I made that mistake several times. Great video gents
👌

  • @flapjackson6077
    @flapjackson6077 Pƙed 2 lety +1

    Great conversation and buying tips!
    So much knowledge! đŸ€™

  • @stephenbarone4742
    @stephenbarone4742 Pƙed 2 lety

    Great video and information!

  • @sourceeee
    @sourceeee Pƙed 2 lety +6

    I made a semi-blind purchase on an Am Ultra Luxe strat with SS frets. I do not regret my purchase at all, having only read the specs and saw pictures/demos. It blew my expectations out of the water.

  • @chadwickhurlburt6529
    @chadwickhurlburt6529 Pƙed 2 lety +4

    Rhett is right, don't ever sell unless you are in the process of trading up. Difficult times are common for everyone, don't sell your guitar just to pay the electric company. Do that, you'll have no gear in no time. I sold an original JEM 77FP for 1k because I needed to pay a bill. I have hated myself for that decision ever since. Today the JEM 77FP brings a minimum of 5k+ if it plays at all. Mine played like a dream. Hard times happen, selling good instruments doesn't have to happen. There is always another way.

    • @classygary
      @classygary Pƙed 2 lety

      That’s a ridiculous rigid mindset as an instrument for any serious maker of music is not solely about how much their instrument(s) are worth $ but how much utility they posses in the quest to generate the best end result achievable which @ the end of the day
 contains an infinite amount of variables and nuances the least of which in terms of your instrument ought to be not to be redundant “solely” based on its cost or even it’s by extension replacement value . Some of the best music has been made on real “clunkers” . That being said that doesn’t mean I’m remotely suggesting one should throw caution to the wind
 not at all
 I am however emphatically stating that there are always many variables on the road of creation . Also on another note 😎 I would be very hard pressed to purchase a guitar online without have @ least actually having played the model before and even then I be extremely hesitant as no two are alike . Same goes for Ecuadorian so called “Panama” hats .

  • @jamesmarchetti3286
    @jamesmarchetti3286 Pƙed 2 lety +1

    GREAT info!

  • @abeellis4470
    @abeellis4470 Pƙed 2 lety +1

    Loved this video!

  • @thesoundboardstudio
    @thesoundboardstudio Pƙed 2 lety +7

    Great video! I would have liked seeing you guys going online on reverb an picking an electric and an acoustic guitar! Maybe next time!

  • @1badsteed
    @1badsteed Pƙed 2 lety +3

    Never having owned a LP, I've always loved their sound in the music I love (70's 80's rock). I got a Squier Strat in 1989 to learn on, then progressed to a 1990 Ibanez RG570 Jewel Blue. I still have it and love it for what it is, but still wanted a Gibson LP. Managed to score an 83' Gibson Explorer in 2004 and absolutely loved it. Needed funds once so had to sell it. About 2 years ago I found a vintage modified PJ bass on Reverb. It was listed as a P bass. Still, I converted it to P bass with a non functioning J pickup and I love it.
    Right before Christmas 2021, I found a 2008 Gibson Classic in black on Reverb again. I got it and absolutely love it. I added a cream pickguard, poker chip, pickup rings and jack plate. While changing all the parts, I noticed the bridge pickup is not the original, but a Seymour Duncan. Since I love the sound, I kept it as is, but that was NOT listed on the listing.

  • @JordyJayHomer
    @JordyJayHomer Pƙed 2 lety +1

    Jeezuz! I just had a quick look at Bourgeois prices. On Eddie's Guitars, the cheapest one is $5,800 and the most expensive is about 17 grand!!!!!

  • @Westie_NZ
    @Westie_NZ Pƙed 2 lety +2

    I love listening to you guys. Entertaining and informative. Such fun!

  • @danieldeurloo
    @danieldeurloo Pƙed 2 lety +8

    Another educational and useful video! Nice work guys.

  • @musicmann1967
    @musicmann1967 Pƙed 2 lety +19

    I've bought several of my guitars online. All your tips are right on. My best purchases were from reputable shops, whether new or used. There is so much more room for error or being disappointed from private sellers, (but that's just the way that goes). You've gotta be prepared and somewhat knowledgable about the guitar you're looking for and ready to ask questions and get more pics if you need to. Very very good video! PS: I just bought a brand new Duesenberg online last week, and it's one of the best (if not THE best) online guitar purchase I've ever made. It was from a reputable store with in-store techs. Stellar guitar. I haven't even touched my other guitars since I got it.

  • @tomp538
    @tomp538 Pƙed 2 lety +2

    Not in the market to buy a used guitar.
    But it's always interesting when the 3 of you get together for subject matter conversations.
    Oh, much of the insights apply to buying used cars or motorcycles too.

  • @Tripoutski
    @Tripoutski Pƙed 2 lety

    Rhett's comment on the Taylor pickups needs clarifying; years ago Taylor put Fishman systems in their guitars. They sounded atrocious (I owned one). Then they developed their Expression System that had multiple pickup points in the guitar that is fantastic. Since I had just moved to Texas from San Diego (where Taylors are made), I called a friend that worked there to see if I could get mine replaced. He told me that they cannot do an exact retrofit because part of the system is done in the manufacturing process. However, for a steep price they developed a retrofit for the older models. Most people did not take them up on it because the modification put the total cost of the guitar more than its worth. I loved the guitar, so I had it done. The pickups sounded amazing when it came back and it made it more valuable to me. A few months back I gifted that wonderful 12 string to a young touring musician based in Texas and it is on the road somewhere in US!

  • @mtacoustic1
    @mtacoustic1 Pƙed 2 lety +3

    Fortunately, I've had rather good experiences with guitars obtained through ebay and Reverb over the past few years. At worst, some have had high action, but worked great after a little adjustment. Others have had odd ball replacement tuners that I was fortunate enough to find originals to refit. Another guitar I obtained from Florida started sounding better & better as it dried out in my drier climate. In a bit of irony I eventually re-sold back to someone in Florida. Another bit of irony is a brand new fab sounding Martin D-35 I bought that had the high 'e' string slipping off the fretboard. A little nut work by a local luthier fixed it up & I avoided the hassle of shipping it off for warranty and possibly other damage.

  • @tubehound69
    @tubehound69 Pƙed 2 lety +11

    Being left-handed if you want a quality guitar, it almost always requires buying online and never knowing if you'll like it until it's yours.

    • @danmccoy82
      @danmccoy82 Pƙed 2 lety +1

      Just switch hands dude

    • @krytoxic122
      @krytoxic122 Pƙed 2 lety

      I feel you there southpaw pal. I bought a beast of a guitar back in November from JR Guitars off of Reverb, and I have never been so happy to play or promote a guitar in my life. Never hurts to take a look, and they're custom guitars they professionally make, inspect, set, etc.

    • @nickguzman1734
      @nickguzman1734 Pƙed 2 lety

      Well I'm happy you were able to find a Black left handed guitar you can call yours! Haha I'm a lefty as well

    • @krytoxic122
      @krytoxic122 Pƙed 2 lety

      @@nickguzman1734 it's not black, it's red.

    • @nickguzman1734
      @nickguzman1734 Pƙed 2 lety

      @@krytoxic122 yeah it was a joke bc all lefty guitars are black

  • @deckert618
    @deckert618 Pƙed 2 lety +1

    Great discussion, guys

  • @shawnstoner3602
    @shawnstoner3602 Pƙed 2 lety +2

    Always a good idea to ask for extra pictures and be specific of what you want to see. Protects you against brokers and disreputable sellers who may not have the actual guitar in their physical possession and/or are using photos they found in the internet.

  • @stevefraser7501
    @stevefraser7501 Pƙed 2 lety +3

    Love listening to you 3 guys talking about guitars.

  • @JonathonThamesMusic
    @JonathonThamesMusic Pƙed 2 lety +4

    I actually got a Gibson (LP Standard) for graduation in '05 and unfortunately about a year later it took a nosedive off of a bad guitar stand and fell on the floor cracking the head stock. Luckily, the people at Gibson were able to repair it, near flawlessly; the only way you can actually see any sign of the crack at all is under a black light. So grateful they were able to because I sure do love that guitar!

  • @dblair1247
    @dblair1247 Pƙed 2 lety +1

    Very interesting/good discussion.

  • @victorcetta4854
    @victorcetta4854 Pƙed 2 lety +2

    Great video. A wealth of information.

  • @debvalle7466
    @debvalle7466 Pƙed 2 lety +17

    Very helpful. I like Dave’s horror stories, lol. There is one guitar I really like but hesitate to buy-mainly because I haven’t earned it yet as a player, but also because I’m afraid of buying online at a certain price level.

    • @jeramym9506
      @jeramym9506 Pƙed 2 lety +12

      Don’t be negative on yourself. If you have the cash and want something that will bring you many hours of enjoyment, go for it! Life is short!

    • @stash7714
      @stash7714 Pƙed 2 lety +2

      I suck and bought a Gibson SG, getting it made me want to play and get better even more. If you got the cash to spend, “treat yo self”. I’ll only order brand new online though. I can’t afford to get burned or scammed

    • @facelessandnameless
      @facelessandnameless Pƙed 2 lety +2

      @@jeramym9506 I totally agree! I own a Taylor anda Martin and I play them daily! Well worth every penny.

    • @lilgreenmomo
      @lilgreenmomo Pƙed 2 lety

      Buy the guitar! I was going to buy a 2nd hand baby Taylor on FB, an upgrade from my Yamaha travel guitar & a no name electric acoustic, but I wanted to play one first so went into a store to try one. I walked out of the store with a Maton Mini instead 😂.

  • @alexo5861
    @alexo5861 Pƙed 2 lety +4

    Nice to see The Three Musketeers together again, just missing Keith Williams.
    Dave always has the best T-shirts, “Ampex 456 Gand Master”, amazing, where do I get one?

    • @dale116dot7
      @dale116dot7 Pƙed 2 lety +3

      I need one of those shirts as well. Though I use ATR and 3M tape.

    • @davidjonorato3554
      @davidjonorato3554 Pƙed 2 lety +3

      I got it online years ago but haven’t seen any lately :(

  • @brianseneca3546
    @brianseneca3546 Pƙed 2 lety +1

    I sold a 58 Reissue and a 58 Reissue Historic Makeover to help fund my 1952 Goldtop. Do I miss them? Yes, but the Goldtop is the most amazing guitar I have ever owned. On the flip side. I bought a Squire Vintage Vibe Telecaster for almost NOTHING and put a replacement neck on and its one of my favorites. Its all about the actual guitar

  • @itsyoshman
    @itsyoshman Pƙed 2 lety +1

    Very informative! Love Dave’s t-shirt