SUPER MARIO BROS WONDER (Final Thoughts) - Happy Console Gamer
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- čas přidán 4. 11. 2023
- Johnny gives his final review of Super Mario Bros. Wonder a platform game developed and published by Nintendo for the Nintendo Switch. It is the first traditional side-scrolling Super Mario game since New Super Mario Bros. U (2012) and was released worldwide on October 20, 2023.
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Taking the time limit off of levels was a great decision.
Meh. I can't think of a single instance of ever timing out on a Mario game.
@JonSmith-hk1bq Yeah, it was one of those things that carried over from game to game just because it was there in the NES games. It was never really something that determined how I played because I never noticed it being there while playing. It was kind of pointless.
@@JonSmith-hk1bqSame man
The only critique I have is that it needs more creative bosses like the final boss. Not just Bowser Jr.
Yeah the bosses (Bowser Jr) were kinda lame tbh
Good game but it was too short and easy and not enough boss fights. I could deal with just Bowser jr but you only fight him like two or three times. Some Worlds didn't even have a boss which just felt wrong.
Wish they would've put Bowsers kids from SM3....game is dope though....
I think it's just right that they held off on going all out in the first game.
Agree feels like a really missed oppretunity when they specifically introduce something that essentialy allows anything to happen. But did not really utilize it much for boss fights outside the final one. Like they could have really used the wonder to create some really unique boss experiences.
Bowser as your ally is part of what made Mario RPG so unique.
That's why my older brothers and older cousins loved SMRPG back in 1996.
I don't know why. But I got the sudden intrusive thought. Mario will outlive us all, surely. Imagine all the Mario games we are going to miss. Just made me sad for a moment.
I agree with ya, I like that they brought us out of the Mushroom Kingdom and changed it up there, but then they just stuck with what was 'safe' with Bowser. They had a really cool opportunity to bring in a new villain that was directly associated with the Flower Kingdom (sooooo many humorous opportunities to make funny comparisons to Bowser, without Bowser). Great final thoughts and great video man!
Sadly there are millions of people on the planet so with that in mind somebody with a complaint how about new bosses ambulance in the game so at the end of the day you can't please everyone because everyone thinks the way they see it is the right way
@@chrisbullock6477 That would be a fair assessment. I'm not sure about a boss ambulance but that would a neat idea 😉
@@RetrocartCollector where are his adopted children
With Mario they can just phone it in and make money at this point I doubt they want to take creative liberty with games like they used to when millions are on the line
@@johnlawful2272 That's a very good question. Maybe Bowser sent them to a boarding school with Princess Tomato in the Salad Kingdom... wait, no... that's a different NES game all together.🤣
Then, as a german video gamer at the end of my 30s, the elefant holds a special place in my heart since it resembles so much a beloved cartoon and audio stories character "Benjamin Blümchen" who is around since end of the 70s/beginnig od the 80s. When the game was anounced with pictures of the elefant, almost all german commenta where like: Thats Benjamin Blümchen! The crossover i never knew i would need and love so much.
I was born in Germany and may move back but I’m not familiar with this character. However my son’s name is Benjamin so I’m now fully invested in checking this out with him. Wonder is such a fun game hope you’re enjoying it with your kids or will in the future! The design really does look like inspiration for the “crossover” in Wonder.
Wonder is definitely a breath of fresh air. Love the Wonder effects and found it way more immersive without a timer on each level. The badge system is sweet with room to grow into a staple of the series if evolved correctly. Boss battles could've been better but none were BAD. On that note, a sequel with a mystery final boss and a honey badger power-up is on the wishlist. Lol😂. Make it happen Nintendo!!!🎉🎉🎉
Same here, fellow German at 42. My namesake elephant was the first thing I thought of!!!
You know what I enjoy? This channel. Thank you.
For me, I loved this game! I’d been a Mario fan since the NES era! I love Mario and Luigi and the series as a whole!
Same !!!
I can still remember being in Japan in '86 and playing on my cousin's Famicom for the first time, after those video game drought years, and being blown away by the original SMB! Now, so many years later, I've been out of the Mario loop since Super Mario World, but I'm looking to get back into it. Maybe I'll try with this one. I have to admit, I was a little on the fence with the game's aesthetics and what not.
It's impossible to name the best Mario game, but this one is fantastic. It really is a wonder to play and behold. There is so much creativity, you wouldn't believe. They don't wear out any of the neat gimmicks, and there are so many of them. I rolled credits last night, and now I'm cleaning up the map to 100% each level. If you like platformers, this is Nintendo at its best.
Let me help you , Super Mario World is the best Mario game 😅😅😅
@@THEKLEVER187 Funny that you mention it, but it's always been my favorite too. Wonder feels like it recaptures the same magic for a new generation.
@@LucidCoder absolutely!
Seems like you're as passionate about platformers as I am. So, I'll ask you, did you feel it was too easy? I definitely felt it was too easy as if it was watered down to make it more accessible to casuals. I know doing 100% adds a bit to the challenge, but it felt like it was on auto pilot through all, but maybe the last world.
@@littlebigkid707b2I think you can get as much challenge out of it as you want. I found my limit with the final, final level. The difficulty was about right for a young-but-enthusiastic player to beat Bowser and roll credits. But experienced players won't be satisfied until they find all the seeds, flowers, wonderful exits, and special levels. It has a sliding difficulty that adjusts with the player (even so far as having characters that can't be hurt.) I will say that I thought the boss fights were a little too easy, but they have to be beatable by younger players too. I was definitely cursing at the TV with some of the harder things I tried to master (like the special world.)
Absolutely love this game it's the most fun I've had since Mario 3. I was 10 yo when 3 came out and wonder made me feel like that 10yo again and that's amazing.
It's a great game. I'm usually not a completionist either, but replaying this and trying to 100% everything has me fully addicted.
One thing I loved was all the new and great enemies they added to so many of the levels!
Thank you so much for coming back in to talk about your final thoughts for this game after your initial reactions, Johnny, this was awesome! A lot of the things you were put off by at first but grew to love are things I'm hearing from other folks too who are still only partway through--the elephant power up, the flower's chatter, etc. So I especially appreciate knowing they're the type of things that end up making the experience enjoyable, which is obviously the best case scenario rather than those type of details becoming stale or annoying the more you play. I hope that makes sense, I'm just so glad you decided to share all of your thoughts since I won't be able to play the game myself--I still get to appreciate it as an outsider from your perspective.
It's such a blast to play. My brother and I play it every Friday night after work together and it is just absolutely fun. Definitely one of my favorite games this year.
Nice from the heart review. I felt the same. Playing it in -27 Mongolia in my warm living room has been a treat and I'm not even halfway.
I like that you can see other people online and help each other here and there
Wholesome video all-round Johnny 👍
I'm more interested in Star Ocean 2 and Sonic superstars. But hearing your enthusiasm makes me want to try this game :)
A lot of people who hate "colorful" and "charming" games are often ppl who are very much into their image, and are afraid to like something that could be perceived as a nerdy vulnerability among their peers. Those secure in who they are and what they like adore charming, colorful games. Its like how teenagers only listen to rap or hard rock, cause theyre too afraid to listen to Beethoven, or country, or pop, or whatever. They limit their interests to whatever is considered "cool". Which strips them of their true personality and interists.
It's embarrassing really
Thanks for your take on this game ,,, I enjoyed your review
My wife has got it me for Christmas so looking forward to playing it over the holidays 😊
Been watching your channel for years and just realized I never subscribed...I was shocked. Love your stuff. I am subscribed now:)
Good review HCG, i really want this game!
Im excited about rob and Johnny's christmas video already
First game I purchased an advance physical copy of in years!
Worth it!
I also had Elephant reservations but it plays great! Also funny.
Theres probably a lot of levels that you missed, because theres secret exits just like Mario World that lead to a different part of the worlds with at least 5 more levels every time
I always used to wonder how you got through so many games, while working full time and with a family but doing the minimum in a game is definitely the right approach, something i need to start doing myself , a 150hr JRPG could be finished in 40hrs
Many people with family usually play easy mode
I've been going through the older gta games and just going from mission to mission lol
Thanks!
I share your exact thoughts on Elephant Mario and the final boss especially. Same with the music. It's even the first time I've been compelled to learn how to play the main theme on my guitar.
Another great video. Agree w you about the Bowser thing.
Got it love it , can’t stop playing it
I can say Wonder has mostly lived up to my expectations. The levels, the new enemies, the incredibly innovative gimmicks that really turn the Mario formula on its head, and the over all charm to it all, have blown me away. I can safely say this is the first 2D Mario game since New Super Mario Bros DS, that I've truly enjoyed. But it does have some flaws, as others have mentioned, I wish this game had more boss variety. Going back to New SMB on the DS, I loved that every castle ended with a new boss like Petey Piranha or The Mole Machines. It made for a fun and varied challenge. In Wonder you occasionally fight Baby Bowser or some bowser ship mech boss. It's kind of lame. I think the music is okay but it gets drowned out by the sound design so I never really get the opportunity to appreciate it in game. And while I haven't beaten the game yet, I believe I'm 2/3rds of the way through, it is feeling a little short.
Over all it's a great 2D Mario experience but I do wish it did a little more to truly shake things up, but at the end of the day it feels like your typical mario game with a bold hint of much needed change to the formula. Here's hoping we get a sequel that ventures further into unexplored 2D mario territory.
8/10
That Metal Gear vs Mario conversation is so funny to me, I love the Metal Gear franchise, and yeah there is alot of serious stuff in them, but I'd argue that there is just as much goofy nonsense silly stuff in Metal Gear as well. "Hey look at the guard butt wiggle to identify a female guard spy!", "Look at the back of your CD case for the codec frequency", Psycho Mantis, Otacon wetting himself, "Do you think love can bloom on the Battlefield?" etc. And that's just the first Metal Gear Solid
Love the video! Me and my boys are close to beating it. It has been such a blast to play with them, it’s deff the better of the 2d Mario games that we have gotten especially in a long while! Everyone’s favorite is also the elephant power up.
I have to be honest : I enjoyed this more than Spider-Man 2, and I loved that game. Wonder is just pure fun.
One thing which I thought I wouldn’t use is the online feature but now I have on in all the time. I had a puzzle level and couldn’t find the last seed but the other online players showed me where it was and they were standing in air. Then I figured out I had to move the pipe to hit a hidden block.
There’s been so many moments of helping others and having them support me through a level.
I loved the comments about Bowser. Amazing review Johnny.
Me too man, I love Mario. All throughout my childhood, up until now!
Explain
I loved the setting of you with a blanket and mario, so cozy 💕 makes me wanna play that game😊 I bought it mainly for my kids and haven't had any urge to play it. Maybe I have to find myself a blanket and some hot chocolate🤩❤️
I haven't played Wonder yet but I agree with the Bowser talk. I think it's time to bring back Wart and make a direct sequel in the style of Super Mario Bros. 2. That would be amazing.
I wish Wart got more love. Give Wart a chance.
I’ve been wanting this for years. I even think of they don’t want to use Mario make a new game with those mechanics with a new cast and story.
Hey Johnny, only recently picked up a switch - would love an updated switch top 10 / collection video
The music on the Bowser airship levels was my favorite
VERY VERY good points especially on Bowser. When he showed up I was thinking here we go again i realised I’ve been saying the same thing about him since new super Mario bros on ds. As far as 2D Mario goes
I love Mario and like you I wasn’t feeling the elephant power up before release and once I started playing it it became my favorite power up of the game lol. Can’t wait for next week to play Mario RPG for the first time. I’m ten years younger than you but unfortunately my mom couldn’t afford to buy me the SNES so I played it at my cousins and friends house. She got me a PS1 and PS2 so that was something I’ll always be grateful for. However, despite LOVING JRPG’s I never got the chance to play the original Mario RPG even though I I got it digitally on my wii. Just finished Spider-Man 2, I’m currently playing Trails into Reverie and will FINALLY play Mario RPG when it comes out. I love the Mario and Luigi RPG series so I’m looking forward to playing the one that started it all
The puzzle, break time, and badge levels are all good stuff.
I agree with most things you said in this review and you're right, I DO have a ton of experience playing Mario games by now but I still think the game was just a bit too forgiving like the older games weren't. And it did what all recent 2D Mario games do which is rapid fire throw ideas at you and then immediately move on. I wish these games would take a little more time to explore mechanics. That ciupled with the over-use of the main power up, in this case the elephant, just made it feel a little too close to what New Super Mario Bros. Was to me.
I do like the game though and the online mode is heaps of fun. So many times have I helped others find secrets, get past difficult sections and just had really cute interactions with complete strangers. I think the online is the highlight for me because it's so wholesome. That said, Yoshi's Woolly World is still my favorite "Mario" 2D platformer in recent memory. It hit that sweet spot between challenge, exploration and coziness for me.
I’ve got to meet Charles martinet yesterday and he was a great guy! Will always love Mario!
Played a bit at my brothers. My first Mario game. Hilarious, I’m considering getting it despite not being good at platformers.
I paced myself and had a lot of fun making my way through the game, but I feel it didn't truly challenge me until "The Final-Final Test" which then robbed me of tens of lives as I trialled and errored my way through it - which I enjoyed.
In the future, if they wanted to make a more difficult Super Mario Bros. Wonder 2: The Lost Levels, I'd be all for it. They must have several ideas left over that they couldn't squeeze into this. 🙂
Honestly I find the difficulty fitting for a mario game
Those who wants a challenging experience they can find it in other games like hollow knight and similar ones
I agree the levels too easy and was hoping thered be time trials after 100%. Also wish they put in wario as a playable character.
What a great review!
my favorite 2d mario is still SMB 3. Wonder is also great but for me it not as great as SMB3 or SMB World. i love it and playing Wonder does put a smile on my face. it's totally worth the price and i hope nintendo keeps 2d mario alive.
One of the great things about this game are the animations, how Mario reacts and moves, really cool :)
I really like when he zips into the pipe and reaches back out for his hat
This game rocked, just some pure fun
I have always loved Mario and this year I played thru all the 2D Mario games again and relived a good part of my childhood doing so. I just finished Mario Wonder today and I had a blast playing the game and I would say it's the best 2D Mario since Super Mario World. Can't wait to see what they do next with 2D Mario and friends
I think its a little overhyped. I enjoyed it for sure but I thought it was way too easy.
Ya me to. Way to easy. My cats could beat most levels
i like the 3d mario on the 2d prerender background
thanks HCG! cool shirt dude.. i should get some of those.. would like to hear some encouraging words from you or rob... struggling over here atm.
I need to get through more of this game to see how I truly feel so I'll save that for my video, but overall I'm enjoying it. I also love that you just do the bare minimum to get through the game cause that is exactly how I play games too! No side quests, don't care about collecting every little thing. haha
As a long time fan from all the way back to the OG trilogy on the NES I am loving the game.
It’s a really great 2D platformer and I love that.
I’m currently on W4 now.
Sone of the 4-5 star levels are challenging and they’ve taken quite a few of my lives but after trial and error and getting the wheels greased up they are very beatable. Just great level design.
I've completed the game, got all wonder seeds (including special world) and completed the Wonder Gauntlet. The game can be challenging as hell if your trying to %100. It definitely stands up to the classic games, and even tops Super Mario World for me. My new favorite 2D Mario for sure.
I picked up the game but have yet to play it as I'm trying to finish Starfield and The Cyberpunk Phantom Liberty DLC. It looks like a blast and I can't wait to give it the time it truly deserves.
the invisible part in the final final level almost drove me insane
Currently playing this solo to 100% and there are some super hard courses in some areas that are 5 stars!
The online play is pretty cool too.
Also playing as a sidekick to my daughter's playthrough. It's fun to be there to save her.
I’m like you and grew up with Mario. He’s like an older brother I always got to visit. I was 5 years old when the NES released and sold my parents on buying me one by the argument of how real Mario looked when he ran (we’ve come a long way). I’m really enjoying Mario Wonder, but I think as far as 2D goes, Mario World will always hold that #1 spot for me.
I’ve enjoyed Mario Wonder a lot, I still wouldn’t put it Mario 3 or World level of greatness. But I will say that hasn’t seemed to be brought up enough is how good the sound effects are. Mario jumping in wonder just sounds right compared to the “New” series.
That’s a good point. I agree.
I started on October 30th and finished on October 31st (Halloween). I loved the game.
I played this with a Super Nintendo controller. It added a special layer to this game that gave me Super Mario World nostalgia.
this is a pretty great game i felt! I thought it definitely is in that tier above NSMB and is on par at least in objective sense with mario 3, mario world, etc. I think my fav 2d is probably a 3 way tie between 3, world, and this one now. pretty cool that they managed to make a golden age 2d mario again in the year 2023!
Absolutely loving this game! I just wish it were longer. Like 2 more worlds. Then it'd be perfect
I couldn't agree more and every world should have a boss fight
Super Mario RPG has been pre ordered. I will pick this up in the new year. Excellent review as always 👏
Man… there are way too many games! I forgot this was coming out!!
Nice video i wish i could play nintendo switch game but nintendo don't sell their console and games in india (yeah we indian gamers exist 😢) but it's always awsome to see your videos and reactions on these games much love sir ❤
Pretty soon it will be time for another Christmas special with Rob Man 😁 where has 2023 gone?
Work/sleep
I haven't played mario games in a while. I used to a lot back in the days on my game boy advanced micro 😅
Completed it. Fantastic game.
I so wanna meet you someday and talk about video games! Vancouver is on the other side of canada so I could take one hell of a road trip when I get a car lol
I can't wait
I love Mario. I am the same age and Mario got me thru a lot. I was treated alot like Rob. Mario wonder is wonderful and wrapped me in a cozy blanket of nostalgia. It was innovative and YES I love the elephant. I also like that you are impartial and just let everyone have an opinion! Cheers brother!!
I can safely say that this game is one of my favorite 2D Mario games in a while. It's such a " wonderful" and charming game.
There were moments where my 30 years of playing 2D Marios were necessary.
It's as good as Super Mario World, not better, nothing's better, but it blows the NSMB games away.
I'm thinking about picking it up to play with my 2 best friends who are across the world.
I definitely agree with you. This game is truly wonderful from the colourful graphics, great animation, tight controls, level design and ideas, all the new enemies and although there could be more music, the soundtrack is really well produced.
However there is that one element that feels anticlimatic and almost goes against how creative and quirky the game is. The bosses and finale in general.
I think fighting Bowser Jr on the airships would have been fine but each area doesn't build up enough to a climatic boss with a crazy new enemy that maybe is being controlled by Bowser's wonder powers. No Koopalings or even Boom Boom/Pom Pom.
Although the final level builds up nicely level by level, when Bowser Jr and Kamek are both tossed aside and then Bowser is quite straightforward and I could beat on the firsy try, it didn't quite feel epic enough. The absurdity and humour of a 3D Mario game finale like Odyssey or Bowser's Fury was such a climatic end that Wonder does lose a bit of magic by the end.
The same extends to the ending. Considering the light plot that they introduced into the game with the Prince, the inhabitants of the kingdom and Bowser actually hatching his plan, the ending is as basic as you can get. Some of the other 2D games even have you travelling back across the land to celebrate but there's just one screen where they are happy and it just kind of ends.
Not really any chat with the Prince or maybe Peach bakes a cake and everyone has a party. Maybe Bowser was going to throw a concert and it gets wrecked in the finale and you see the minions cleaning up and Bowser is sad while Bowser Jr/Kamek try to cheer him up. I just think ending the game strong would have done a lot along with the trials of beating Wonder powered bosses or even Bowser in the end turning into an elephant himself and rocking out just to be really crazy and unexpected to hype up the ending.
Compared to some recent Kirby game finales, I think they could have gone further with the bosses and finale where anything could happen rather than sometimes nothing happening. I wouldn't consider the machines bosses really unless you had to hit it multiple times in phases.
I do think it does fall a little flat which is why I can understand your comments about Bowser as the villain and Bowser Jr just not doing enough for you. Despite this game not being rushed or feeling like they cut content, this aspect does stick out despite everything else being so fantastic.
Even though games like Mario 3/World, the DKC games, Rayman Origins/Legends or a few Yoshi games like Island/Woolly World might still overall as an experience be a little better, this is nearly perfect and such a fresh mix up for 2D Mario. It's hard to say where they can take 2D Mario from here but I'm sure if they far outsell the 3D Mario games, they will find a way to especially now they aren't being as formulaic with sticking to the New series and branching out more.
It will definitely not outsell odyssey but they might invest a little more if sales are good
I get your sentiments on Bowser. I loved how he joined up with Mario in Super Mario RPG to battle Smitty.
I'd love to see a reverse Mario game where you play as Bowser and all the koopa kids and you take over the mushroom kingdom, bashing toads instead of goombas, and the bosses can be the different kings of the mushroom kingdom areas, and finally, browser's mission is to steal the princess. Reverse SMB3!
Loved wonder so so much! The difficulty is placed in the special world for anyone lookin. Final-Final took me a couple hours
I love Mario wonder. Some of my favorite levels were the music levels.
Another great episode…. It makes my Sunday watching the new happy console games and having my Sunday roast…(I’m from Scotland 🏴 so Sunday dinner is still a thing lol)… playing a combo of Y’s 8 and the new robocop game both are great… cheers Chris
nearly turning 50? God bless bruv. Don't look anywhere near.
Great review buddy!
Loving the game the courses are great it does need more Bosses Nintendo should have put the Koopa kids in the game like super Mario 3 maybe also some Bosses from Mario 2 as well though maybe in secret levels with special badges as rewards for beating them? but other than that the games great and I’m taking my time playing through the game I’m also playing Star Ocean the second Story R as well.
I wouldn’t mind if the Mario games had a different villain other than Bowser. I think the Mario RPGs work especially well when he’s not the main bad guy
Yeah they should bring back Wart in a dream world settting again focused on picking things up, flying… heck you can play through stages from previous Mario games… even sports games… even guest appearances by Mario…. Like it is dreams of the past,… and nightmare dreams of the future.
I haven’t beat it yet. So far I really like it. I have always been a Mario fan! This is my favorite 2d since Super Mario World on SNES. Overall I’d give it a 9/10 so far, as I would like to see more variety in bosses. Game looks beautiful and Elephant Mario is really awesome too!
I'm not a completionist either, but this type of game is the exception. If you don't go for the 100% on every level, every world, you're left with a veeery short game and with half the challenge and fun. This game in particular was built around that. And it isn't frustratingly hard to do it either, which is great.
I wish they would make another 3d world/land game. Those game were so good.
I really love that the game is such a joy to play. I saw an interview where the developers said that they wanted to design a Mario game where everyone could get to see all the parts of the game without being discouraged. That's very different than making a game that lacks difficulty and actually makes the game something that is relaxing to play--and something needed after covid. And also, I played this along with my kids and it has really been fun all the through so far.
This game was fantastic! My wife and I played start to finish and enjoyed every minute...even the frustrating ones.
Totally picked it up .
Enjoyed the heck out of it. It wasn’t that difficult but I assume that’s because they wanted new Mario gamers. Maybe we will get an expansion 🤷♂️
I thought the same about the cat AND the elephant.
Pick it up for my son birthday and we played it and we had fun.
I’m hoping for a retread back to the old days with Mario vs DK and I think we’re going to get this pretty soon.. Also, nothing against the OG VA but this one seems a little more spot on.. I see an older Italian guy with a somewhat deeper voice.. I look forward to checking this out!
It's a really cool game. The wonder flower stuff is the best part. I didn't find the game challenging at all. I wish they could do something to have additional content that is really challenging for the players that want it. It seemed so short too. It felt like the shortest of the newer 2D Mario games. There weren't really any secret paths to cool areas. I felt the same way when I beat it. That was it? I remember I think it was New Super Mario or the Wii U one and they do a fake out final boss fight that goes to the final boss. That was amazing. It really made the end of the game feel special.
Overall I just wish it could have had some more challenging platforming.
Felt exactly the same about the elephant. When I first saw it I was like wtf does this have to do with Mario? But it grew on me and I love Elephant Mario!
Well in Super Mario 3d World he was a cat. HAHA i liked the cat better but the elephant grew on me as well