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  • @wal
    @wal  Před 11 měsíci +1

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    • @charlieknoll1269
      @charlieknoll1269 Před 10 měsíci +2

      If you change that skinny wire that you plugged into the $300 power supply to a much thicker wire like I did you will get an extra 82 w and it's panel will put out/ roughly 235 certified 243 uncertified on each Channel you have to change that wire it's too skinny for that much power

  • @chrisvinicombe9947
    @chrisvinicombe9947 Před 11 měsíci +21

    I have one of these. Cost £82 from fosi direct with the 48V supply 😊 it's very good for the money. Earlier today I played most of dj dropping bass arsenal album at very high volume on my tower speakers with Zero thermal issues or notable distortion.

  • @lazzzzze1
    @lazzzzze1 Před 11 měsíci +4

    Thanks for the review and tests. Can't wait to see the next iteration from Fosi and others. Seems like things keep getting better and better.

  • @mistersunny3636
    @mistersunny3636 Před 10 měsíci +3

    Your Mini Amp videos are one of my favourites as well. I´m somehow always very interested in these devices. Please keep on doing your fantastic job, pal!

  • @Natetron1000
    @Natetron1000 Před 11 měsíci +8

    I always wonder about these little units and this one did well all things considered. I appreciate you taking a look at it and the video was great!

    • @Douglas_Blake_579
      @Douglas_Blake_579 Před 11 měsíci +2

      The TPA3255 chip itself is a dynamite product. It was originally developed for pro-audio, and sound reinforcement in powered speakers. You will find it in all kinds of places including high-end AV gear, ICEPower modules and even high end stereo equipment.
      The concern is that a lot of these lower priced implementations are also exercises in price and corner cutting.

  • @Scrufboy
    @Scrufboy Před 11 měsíci +5

    14:00. The passthrough allows you to use either the RCA or the 3.5mm as input. It is essentially a Y cable

  • @Guiltless765
    @Guiltless765 Před 11 měsíci +2

    Still running my Crown Xli 1500's from back when they were 180 ea. Your test on those were great.

  • @JustRelaxCo
    @JustRelaxCo Před 7 měsíci

    Bro!!! You’re like right down the road from me! Love your channel man!!!

  • @themadmallard
    @themadmallard Před 11 měsíci

    thx for the tour, its funny what design priorities have done. Of course most home amps are receivers where the power supply is incorporated in the chassis, because of whatever reasons led to the standard stereo component being that big.
    the only problem i've had with this crop of mini amp is the pot used for volume goes crunchy within a year of all the ones i've tried....

  • @cordell847
    @cordell847 Před 11 měsíci

    I have a little Grey fosi in my boombox I built for work. Gets signal from my old deck, a pioneer mvhs512bs, they power two pioneer pro 8s. They rock. Sound great and put out a bunch of sound. And mine the 160x2@4ohm

  • @editorjuno
    @editorjuno Před 11 měsíci +5

    The "Pre Out" 3.5mm jack is wired in parallel with the RCA jacks -- this is the same arrangement as in the Aiyima A07.

  • @adamfranks4118
    @adamfranks4118 Před 11 měsíci +1

    Thanks Big D for all your great videos.

  • @m4nc1n1
    @m4nc1n1 Před 10 měsíci +2

    I have them Elacs (Tower version) in my Home Theater and absolutely love them! Upgraded everything around them but not felt the need to upgrade them yet. Fantastic bang for the buck!

    • @wal
      @wal  Před 10 měsíci

      I agree they remind me of B&W Speakers with their smooth sound. Absolutely a steal for the $$

  • @kubaz2308
    @kubaz2308 Před 11 měsíci +7

    I actually bought Fosi Audio BT30D Pro after seeing other models on your channel, I chose BT30D Pro because it has a powerful sub channel and can also be used with active subwoofer and run at 2 ohms

    • @SK-iy3jv
      @SK-iy3jv Před 10 měsíci

      I am looking to buy a 30D Pro and wish to learn if I can connect my active powered sub woofer and run the same. What shall be the connection wiring.
      Also what can we use the Pre-out point for?

  • @wildekek
    @wildekek Před 10 měsíci

    Great advice! You always measure from the knob all the way back to the binding post.

  • @92naza
    @92naza Před 11 měsíci

    Very happy to watch your video like this type 😊

  • @peanutbutterjellyjam2179
    @peanutbutterjellyjam2179 Před 7 měsíci

    Great info regarding the 'pre-out.'

  • @ufopulse
    @ufopulse Před 11 měsíci

    I have been waiting for this!!!!!! This amp h as been sooo hyped

  • @TheSFFV
    @TheSFFV Před 11 měsíci

    I love these reviews good stuff big D. I like the orange knobs on the Fosi units. They should use Tiffany RCA's.

  • @slocavky
    @slocavky Před 11 měsíci

    Man that little guy is quite impressive... great review as usual.

  • @SLOGOAT219
    @SLOGOAT219 Před 10 měsíci

    Bought a similar amp from fosi that has a sub level and freq knob on the front as well as bass and treble adjustments. I was skeptical because of the size of the amp overall but was pleasantly surprised at how much power it actually has. Powers two 25 year old sony towers no problem

  • @ChrisDIYerOklahoma
    @ChrisDIYerOklahoma Před 11 měsíci

    Nice job and congrats on that new power supply. They provide the voltage these micro chip amps need. I tried out this amp a while back and thought it sounded like crap. I could NOT get it to sound good. All things being equal, I swapped back to Douk Audio and the sound was cleaner. My point is, the Chinese "experiment with the market" ...so many of these type mini amplifiers out there. They use our reviews (videos) for product development. The best sounding ones are the 100w x 2 amps with the 24v max power input with the Texas Instruments chip. For most listening, 30 watts clean per channel is plenty loud. Hook up some high SPL PA/DJ speakers to these amplifiers and you'll get some cheap loud sound levels. I like the sound of most digital chip amps. Class D amps still sound off to me. Class AB sound the best. Your 2-ohm test at the end was COOL! Impressive. My problem/issue is finding a "quiet" 12vDC to 48v step up booster for my builds. Most introduce audible noise vs using a 120vAC adapter

    • @Douglas_Blake_579
      @Douglas_Blake_579 Před 11 měsíci

      The TPA3255 used in the V3, TB10D, BT20 and BT30, A07, A07pro and on and on, is not an experimental chip. Check the spec sheets... it is a very capable amplifier originally developed for pro-audio use but now also widely adopted in home theatre, high end stereo and lord only knows how many DIY boards. The TPA32x series is the next generation to the TPA31x series from Texas Instruments. They've added enhanced feedback and distortion control mechanisms that actually work.
      The problems we encounter are mostly in 2 areas ...
      1) The Chi-Amp market tends to underestimate their output filter designs. Often the series output coils saturate well before clipping occurs and oh boy do some of them get hot!
      2) The control signals for the TPA32x series chips appear to be widely misunderstood. I've had issues with amplifiers that will not go in to RESET and remain active even when the front panel switch is n the off position. I've also noted that many of the DIY modules have the Clip and Protect LEDs in the always on state rather than having them dark unless there's a problem, which just destroys their utility as monitoring features.
      All that said, I seriously doubt any of these chips have been aimed at the automotive market. Most of the features and requirements are far more indicative of home audio (TPA31x) and pro audio (TPA32x) targets. You may be able to quiet the boost converter but that's going to take some serious filtering at both audio and longwave RF frequencies.

  • @moisesbeltran2612
    @moisesbeltran2612 Před 11 měsíci

    I have a similar setup, for the subwoofer control, I installed a car LOC to get RCA output for subwoofer.

  • @volvo09
    @volvo09 Před 11 měsíci +3

    I like these chip based amps, nice and small, decent power.

  • @Douglas_Blake_579
    @Douglas_Blake_579 Před 11 měsíci +3

    Three deal breakers on the V3 ...
    1) The power switch on the volume control. It will be failure prone because it's passing the power supply current and it's rather inconvenient since you have to reset the volume every time you turn it on.
    2) That fixed level output on the back. Lord knows why they would even include that since it's useless for anything except daisy chaining amplifiers and Y cables are often more convenient.
    3) The Op-Amp sockets. They look like the good quality aero-space type but they are not. The gold coloured guides on the socket should act like a funnel directing the op-amp pins down into the contacts, but the inner edge of the guide is a flat surface and unless you get the pins started into the holes perfectly you will end up bending the pins on your chip and possibly destroying it. If you're rolling op-amps in this thing, take your time, use a magnifying glass and get all 8 pins started into the center holes, not just sitting on the gold coloured guides, before you even think about pressing it into place.
    Fosi seems to be developing a reputation for good ideas but bad execution.
    I've also run into design level issues with the TB-10D that I've notified them about and supplied corrections for. Currently, I'm waiting for them to let me know when the fixed version of the updated version will be available.

  • @Douglas_Blake_579
    @Douglas_Blake_579 Před 10 měsíci +2

    I see a common mistake in these comments about the power leads for these amplifiers.
    These amplifiers are NOT for cars and they are NOT for driving super-bass rigs in your basement. These are a home HIFI amplifier for use with your PC, record player or, more commonly, your TV set.
    The thing is that everyone is estimating the power leads as though the amp is going to draw it's full 20 amps continuously.... But that isn't how music behaves... The average power is actually quite low, even though you are occasionally clipping a snare shot or explosion sound.
    With only a 10db dynamic range in your music that 200 watts dyno measurement drops all the way to 20 watts of average power... At 20 watts on 4 ohms that amplifier will draw about 2 amps from the supply. (and make sound loud enough to damage your hearing)
    There is no reason to wire it up for 200 continuous watts unless you intend to power a siren.

  • @jamesplotkin4674
    @jamesplotkin4674 Před 11 měsíci +4

    Those teeny-tiny power supply wires must be holding back current. I'd like to see if there's noticeable voltage drop at high loads.

    • @Douglas_Blake_579
      @Douglas_Blake_579 Před 11 měsíci +1

      There is, during sine wave testing... not so much on music where the average power is much lower.

  • @chrisallen3671
    @chrisallen3671 Před 10 měsíci +3

    They need to come out with monoblock mini amplifier’s already.

  • @jorgem50
    @jorgem50 Před 11 měsíci +2

    Fosi Audio TB10D 600W TPA3255 I recently bought this for a bass shaker. Works incredibly well. Nice Bang for buck

    • @Douglas_Blake_579
      @Douglas_Blake_579 Před 11 měsíci +2

      Do yourself one small favour ... check the case temperature when you have it turned off ... If it's warm, the chances are the chip is still operational. There is a design flaw in the TB-10d that prevents it from going into the RESET, soft-off mode and the amplifier can actually play music while it's turned off. There are other problems as well... but they're not as apparent as this one.
      Yes, I've notified Fosi about them and they claim they're working to fix them in the next version.

  • @bobbybyrkett7751
    @bobbybyrkett7751 Před 11 měsíci

    Good stuff Dereck

  • @T_Burd_75
    @T_Burd_75 Před 10 měsíci

    I have the Douk Audio M1 Pro amp and I like how it has the RCA pre-out and it's controlled by the volume. Perfect for running my Sony SS-CS5 bookshelf speakers and my Sony SA-CS9 powered subwoofer. Sounds great!

    • @user-pq1hh7dk3c
      @user-pq1hh7dk3c Před 10 měsíci +1

      В 4 квартале выйдет версия v3 с настоящим, регулируемым предварительным выходом.

  • @dylanjury4886
    @dylanjury4886 Před 11 měsíci

    That actually seems really cool

  • @cdbennett2332
    @cdbennett2332 Před 10 měsíci

    If you have a rca level knob you can send the signal through it and to the amp and a subwoofer so you can adjust the volume of both at the same time.

  • @MrRelevance02
    @MrRelevance02 Před 11 měsíci

    Good purchase mate

  • @BblastedD
    @BblastedD Před 11 měsíci

    Big D rockin the V3!

  • @scottbennett3119
    @scottbennett3119 Před 9 měsíci

    You do some great reiviews! Thanks. (I like tone controls) You have tested and heard the fosi audio bt20a pro as well. Is this V3 much better sounding? Thanks

  • @richiebledsoe1006
    @richiebledsoe1006 Před 10 měsíci

    I have the 3 Chanel one in my shop. It’s connected to a Polk psw124 directly since the plate amp blows in them and 2 mtx monitor 10” …. And my neighbor 2 houses down came and complained lol well time to add more power I guess!

  • @_Wake_Up_If_U_Can
    @_Wake_Up_If_U_Can Před 10 měsíci

    Love your videos. Keep up the great work!
    I cannot think of a scenario where you would not want variable output. The amp is small and compact, perfect for desk use. If you want a 2.1 system where you adjust the volume as needed, the sub would stay at a non changing volume. How did that make sense in their design phase?????
    Do they expect you to use the fixed line out to feed another amp for speakers in another room? That is more the landscape of a full A/V receiver. I find most of these low cost, direct from china, have all these weird compromises that make no sense like turn on/off pop, fixed outputs, or no line level output for a sub, etc.

    • @VeerMaharaj
      @VeerMaharaj Před 10 měsíci +1

      I checked a couple other fossi amps with "pre out" jacks and those are variable.
      I think, someone screwed up big time on the design of this one and forgot to make it variable.

  • @mikewallace8087
    @mikewallace8087 Před 10 měsíci +1

    Speaker quality demonstrations on internet sources are funny . Take my word for it.

    • @wal
      @wal  Před 10 měsíci +2

      There is absolutely no win here. I don’t do it, why no demo? I do it..why demo?

  • @freedblowfish3705
    @freedblowfish3705 Před 10 měsíci

    Cant you connect it all to a smart hub like echo dot through 3m5mm to rca and split the rca for subs, and use echo dot to control both the sub and amp volume via input signal?

  • @steventhomas5865
    @steventhomas5865 Před 10 měsíci

    Preout means it's before the fader (volume knob} so it is labelled correctly.

  • @Pigeoning
    @Pigeoning Před 11 měsíci +2

    Team BT30D. Crazy how good these little things are.

  • @darrellross8609
    @darrellross8609 Před 8 měsíci

    D, Thank you. V3 with 40 clean watts is plenty. Best, D. From Stl.

  • @10100rsn
    @10100rsn Před 11 měsíci +4

    14:50 That all sounds correct for 48v 20a at 2 ohms. It is limited by the power supply max current and the resistor settings for the chip. You might have better luck at 2 ohms with the power supply set to between 32 volts and 36 volts and max 20 amps.

    • @ChrisDIYerOklahoma
      @ChrisDIYerOklahoma Před 11 měsíci +1

      I did that with some of my Douk Audio mini digital amps. 10 amp vs 5 amp (36v adapter) sounded the best. With 48v, it didn't sound as good either

  • @m4nc1n1
    @m4nc1n1 Před 10 měsíci +2

    Orange knob is an extra $10 charge, not free. They probably just sent it to you.

  • @TheXxRenzxX
    @TheXxRenzxX Před 11 měsíci +4

    For your bench supply, id suggest getting some 5525 connectors with screw terminals on them. You can use 14AWG wire with them and improve your results futher. I found in the past that the voltage drop across a 3ft line of 20AWG is pretty significant at 6+ amps. Hope this helps!

    • @jeffm2787
      @jeffm2787 Před 11 měsíci +3

      Many folks confuse voltage and current and assume if you've got the voltage you're good to go. Too many don't understand the statement you made. They also don't understand the current spikes caps in amps can cause making that voltage drop from the supply even worse while those caps try to recover. I've been in the electronics field for 25+ years, so I get it. Now all that said going to a larger wire gauge may not improve the peak wattage given these exact tests, however it wouldn't hurt to find out. It's really about how well the caps in the amp recover under the test circumstances.

    • @Douglas_Blake_579
      @Douglas_Blake_579 Před 11 měsíci

      @@jeffm2787
      Also, keep in mind that sine wave testing is not music playback. The full on every cycle clipping we use in testing would destroy some power supplies but that is only a very brief moment in music. Figure that with most reasonable music you will only be producing about 25 watts on average with intermittent clipping. Even on this brick walled crap people listen to nowadays it's unlikely you will average more than about 50 watts per channel from the 48volt supply before you get clipping.
      One of the recommendations I made to Fosi is about properly implementing the CLIP_OTW and FAULT pins on the TPA3255 chip to give a "pro audio" style warning on the front panels of these amplifiers. Properly done, the chip will support the blinking "Clip" and "Protect" lights that you see on most pro-level amplifiers and since these are data signals, they could also be used in DSP to manage maximum output. The chip also has current limiting ability that can be programmed to safe values for whatever power supply it's using.

    • @jeffm2787
      @jeffm2787 Před 11 měsíci

      @@Douglas_Blake_579 Agreed, it's a very complex situation. Using what looks like 28 awg wire that's probably CCA isn't a good way to start IMO. Scope the power rails while 'testing' is a good place to start. I'm a big fan of the TPA series of Ti chips, however unlike the amps that run off 12 volts with a boost regulator internally to help stabalize the power rails these really do count on those power bricks and the wire feeding the amp to supply a constant steady voltage even under peaks in the output.
      I'm with you on the average end user, however this was a test situation. Using a higher current cheap looking bench supply and using crap wiring wasn't very impressive. In the end it all just doesn't matter much if at all.

    • @Douglas_Blake_579
      @Douglas_Blake_579 Před 10 měsíci +1

      @@jeffm2787
      Just to give you some idea how ill-informed the average consumer is... I got a call the other day about a failed A07. When I mentioned the V3 he pipes up _"I don't want none of that Digital crap. I'm staying with the good stuff"_ ... where do you even start with that?

  • @Music-Tech-Life
    @Music-Tech-Life Před 5 měsíci

    Can the Line Out be used for adding the V3 to another amp? I care nothing about using it with a Sub Woofer. I'm an old school 2.0 Stereo Guy. Great video! Love the detail and the sound tests. I subscribed!

  • @alexkay1874
    @alexkay1874 Před 11 měsíci +6

    Interesting But you might want to try Thicker gauge power wire when connected to lab power supply as the thinner factory wire may limit current and therefore power .also with the pre out you use the volume control on Fosi to set the balance / level between the mains and the sub and use to music device to raise /lower volume

    • @wal
      @wal  Před 11 měsíci +6

      It was about 12” of 16ga and sufficient for the voltage and current used

    • @alexkay1874
      @alexkay1874 Před 11 měsíci

      that should work nice and short . how much current did it draw off the lab supply ?@@wal

  • @ivtecc
    @ivtecc Před 7 měsíci

    I did notice on on my v3, the right channel is like 1-2db louder. And when the volume is really low- only the right channel would work, turning it up more will kick on the left channel.
    Is this normal?
    During your test- ch1 and ch2 values are different, assuming this is for the right and left channels- so I'm assuming this relates to my issue.

  • @bendeco
    @bendeco Před 6 měsíci

    I've the bt2oa pro and it's got the bass and treble knobs and is a bt streamer. It sounds great using my b&ws, better than my full Sony receiver.

  • @cnnlive10
    @cnnlive10 Před 7 měsíci

    I kind of wonder if the old Fosi V3 would produce the same wattage results if ran on 1 channel (mono) Any thoughts...

  • @jayantadakable
    @jayantadakable Před 9 měsíci

    Does the Fosi v3 has better components under the shell than their upgraded versions viz BT20A Pro and BT30D Pro ?

  • @matth7597
    @matth7597 Před 11 měsíci

    I liked this video and gave you a thumbs-up because I like the power supply😊 but when you're doing the sound quality test on the bookshelf speakers would you be able to show the watts that you're putting to the bookshelf speakers? it might not be easy to set up but just for curiosity's sake.

    • @wal
      @wal  Před 11 měsíci +2

      I will try to implement in future videos. Thanks for the feedback 👌

  • @Grommet2007
    @Grommet2007 Před 11 měsíci +6

    These little chip amps are sure getting nice. I'm waiting for one that offers USB and optical input with built-in DSP, so I can tune it via computer for specific speakers. Who knows - there may be one like that available already...!

    • @10010Linus
      @10010Linus Před 11 měsíci

      found one from CJL called the BRU5, theres also one from arylic called the B50
      the arylic one has the most inputs and outputs so that might be the better one for you lol, the CJL is about 1/3rd the price though colpared to arylic with the CJL's TPA3255 chip
      arylic has a sub out, CJL doesnt, if that matters (or buy 2 SJL and use 1 for sub amp and the other full range)

    • @Douglas_Blake_579
      @Douglas_Blake_579 Před 11 měsíci

      @@10010Linus
      The B50 is using the TPA3116d2 chip which tops out at 50w/ch on 8 ohms 10% distortion, or more realistically 35w/ch, 8 ohms, 0.1% distortion.
      Don't expect it to even get close to what the V3 does.

    • @10010Linus
      @10010Linus Před 11 měsíci

      @@Douglas_Blake_579 I realized my wording was a bit off, comment has been edited to reflect that it's not the arylic that has the tpa3255 chip

    • @Douglas_Blake_579
      @Douglas_Blake_579 Před 11 měsíci

      @@10010Linus
      Arylic is pretty closed mouth about their circuitry. I was just pointing out their stuff is not always what it might seem.

    • @10010Linus
      @10010Linus Před 11 měsíci +1

      @@Douglas_Blake_579thats fair enough

  • @Jason-zh7wo
    @Jason-zh7wo Před 11 měsíci

    Amazing for it's size 😮

  • @donaldkillian9864
    @donaldkillian9864 Před 11 měsíci

    The BT 30 d pro is the one you want I have 2 in a 4.2 set up it's incredible !!

    • @SK-iy3jv
      @SK-iy3jv Před 10 měsíci

      This seems interesting... I wish to learn the wire connections of how u got 4.2 system working on these... Pls Share

  • @hotasianstepsister3039
    @hotasianstepsister3039 Před 10 měsíci

    Integrated and power amps are my thing!

  • @Gnsmth91
    @Gnsmth91 Před 8 měsíci

    I wonder if the 48V 10A output would be higher with something larger than 22ga wire from the power supply.

  • @SUBtrauma
    @SUBtrauma Před 3 měsíci

    Do you have a video explaining your testing methods in more depth? I've been trying to learn more about audio equipment as well as building my own speaker cabinets, and I've been overwhelmed with information. Also, I've been struggling to find information that's specific to the applications in which I'd like to build speakers for; like how I always get car audio information when I'm trying to learn about live audio cabinet building.. I'm lost

  • @dantesguide9574
    @dantesguide9574 Před 11 měsíci

    Love the review. When I was a kid I used to be able to take my mom's old stereo receivers and they would be powerful enough to push car audio subwoofers do you know anyting modern that would be enough to power like some 15s

    • @Douglas_Blake_579
      @Douglas_Blake_579 Před 11 měsíci

      The V3 will drive virtually any speaker. I heard one on a pair of Heresys the other day... damn that was loud!

  • @SpirallingOut
    @SpirallingOut Před 10 měsíci +2

    Fosi Audio have a 240W 48V/5A GaN power supply now, for $30 more than the standard 48V/5A. Would love to see you test its power claims and put it up against the regular power supply.

    • @hardtymz2517
      @hardtymz2517 Před 5 měsíci +1

      Cheaper to buy two of these amps and just bi amp your speakers on the stock power supplies. You’ll never face a scenario where those extra few volts make a life changing difference in audio.

  • @punisher_of_pops
    @punisher_of_pops Před 11 měsíci

    You should test out the tp-02 class D sub amp I have one pretty good wish they made one a little bigger.

  • @Hotpack7279
    @Hotpack7279 Před 11 měsíci

    That Fixed Line-out as you said is a Dealbreaker. I would use it with a Subwoofer like you said.

    • @briandeeley1599
      @briandeeley1599 Před 10 měsíci

      I'm pretty sure it is meant for subwoofer use.

  • @aarongunter5582
    @aarongunter5582 Před 11 měsíci

    Ok for the auxiliary out you haft to use RCA control knob to control the amplifier going to a sub

  • @jeffm2787
    @jeffm2787 Před 11 měsíci

    Majro LOL on the wires in the power leads. What are those, 28 awg?

  • @quevicular
    @quevicular Před 11 měsíci

    If you could, I'd like to see a demo on the new Taramps smart 8000

  • @jonseeley8263
    @jonseeley8263 Před 4 měsíci

    you could probably get to those ratings (power) if the DC cable from the power supply to the amp had heavier wire , but that would be hard to do because of the connectors etc

  • @PrasantaMadhuCrezyWorld
    @PrasantaMadhuCrezyWorld Před 3 měsíci

    Can use this amplifier for subwoofer...200w + 200w...in 48v 10A SMPS....good ya not working fine

  • @Van1018s
    @Van1018s Před 11 měsíci

    If I ever see one of these with a variable line out I’ll be buying it. Numbers are great on this one. But sub is very important to me. And I’m not using speaker level into the sub.

    • @Douglas_Blake_579
      @Douglas_Blake_579 Před 11 měsíci +1

      The BT20D apparently does that as does the Aiyima A07Pro.

  • @mxmang
    @mxmang Před 11 měsíci +2

    Cool review as always ❤
    > would still just buy a crown xls1002 ... Just plug in 120v. ... 325x2 @4ohm @1 percent or more

    • @BASSstarlet
      @BASSstarlet Před 11 měsíci

      yes but Crown is a way bigger in physical dimensions!

    • @Grommet2007
      @Grommet2007 Před 11 měsíci

      @@BASSstarlet ...and the XLS1002 is slightly more expensive :-)

  • @givemethejob3293
    @givemethejob3293 Před 11 měsíci

    I have one on order with the 48v power supply, the bluesound node n130 is used as the pre amp so has the connectivity the Fosi is short on including the sub. This is hopefully going to replace the NAD 2200 you dyno'd before with incredible power on tap. see how it gets on. the reason is other half leaves the NAD on and it's burning 78 watts in idle.

  • @gearamihai2782
    @gearamihai2782 Před 11 měsíci +3

    The power cable is too thin ( voltage drop )
    You should solder thicker wires on to the pcb directly

  • @walterramos8656
    @walterramos8656 Před 8 měsíci

    Is PLUG P4 5.5 mm x 2.1 mm the same thing as PLUG P4 5.5 mm x 2.5 mm? There is a seller of a 24V 5A power supply, and he describes his power supply with a 5.5mm x 2.1mm plug, and I want to buy one with a 5.5mm x 2.5mm plug and he says that his works

  • @psysword
    @psysword Před 11 měsíci

    Genius and awesome

  • @Ravewayvideos
    @Ravewayvideos Před 10 měsíci

    great video thnks....
    nice to meet you, my first video here

  • @jaakanshorter
    @jaakanshorter Před 10 měsíci +2

    Using 2 subs with speaker level inputs would be away around that problem.

  • @jayantadakable
    @jayantadakable Před 9 měsíci

    Haven't it been a good idea if an 'Optical Toslink' connections too existed along with the RCA Line in ?

  • @weasel2htm
    @weasel2htm Před 11 měsíci

    I wonder, is it that the 3.5mm "output" is a parallel input with the RCA inputs? Perhaps mis-labeled as an output? I'm sure someone already beat me to that comment, but that's my thought. Great video and looks like a great little amp! However for my bedroom stereo, I think I'm staying old school with the Carver C-5 pre and a Yamaha P2075 amp.

    • @Douglas_Blake_579
      @Douglas_Blake_579 Před 11 měsíci

      Yes, the foil traces run directly from on to the other.

  • @DeadKoby
    @DeadKoby Před 10 měsíci

    For using your own Power Supply, is that wire gauge OK for that many amps??? I'd think you'd need some fairly thick power cords for 20A.

    • @Douglas_Blake_579
      @Douglas_Blake_579 Před 10 měsíci

      Best bet ... consult a wire gauge chart (lots of them online) and work out the best size for the distance you have to cover.
      One of my favorite tricks with these sealed power bricks is to chop off all but about 8 or 10 inches of the DC cord and put on a better quality connector. It doesn't make a big difference but at least you know it's getting closer to full power.

  • @marcvdfv8431
    @marcvdfv8431 Před 10 měsíci

    I think if you hook up good wires to the power imput it will preform better!

  • @robertchauvin486
    @robertchauvin486 Před 10 měsíci

    Would like to see you do an amp dyno on the kenwood KAC-5207 amp

  • @Random_4400
    @Random_4400 Před 11 měsíci

    I don't get it why you where disappointed with the line out not being variable, i remember when i got my BT30D PRO i couldn't use the line level output because it was adjusted by the amps master volume! As i had a separate amp for my sub it meant that i would be forced to turn the fosi up all the way to deafening levels for my subwoofer to be at max volume, doesn't make sense for a desk setup! I had to use an audio splitter that way both amps would get the full input signal and i can adjust each to my preference
    In fact i still use that audio splitter setup, I've since upgraded the fosi audio with the aiyima A07 Pro because i got a different amp for the subs thus i didn't need the 2.1 channels of the fosi anymore, but i don't know if the A07 Pro has the same problem, if I'm being honest i never bother with the pre outs on thease mini amps after encountering such issue, I'm glad the V3 is the way it is.

  • @iwantmypot
    @iwantmypot Před 10 měsíci

    Did you try using the "Pre Out" as an input? Maybe they should have labeled it Aux In.

  • @davidcrowder1202
    @davidcrowder1202 Před 11 měsíci

    once again going the extra mile! props big d!

  • @MrNEWDY
    @MrNEWDY Před 7 měsíci

    I am fairly certain the cable used limited the amperage possible to the amp for the test, but I'm not a power fiend I run my fosi amp with the 5 amp adapter it's more than loud enough for me.

  • @kitcat2559
    @kitcat2559 Před 10 měsíci

    So it can work as a 2.1 just need a powered sub with a adjustable volume and make sure the amp is on and at the volume you want it but the preout needs to be renamed as line out instead and maybe next revision of this Lil beast can have the line out fixed to preout with volume control but honestly for about $100 with taxes and shipping (without prime of course) its not bad

  • @MrImpalaRider
    @MrImpalaRider Před 11 měsíci +1

    So is this blue tooth works with my phone? Got a couple old cerwin-Vegas vs120’s in the garage and trying to power them and use my phone

    • @lllllllllllllllllllll1lll1
      @lllllllllllllllllllll1lll1 Před 11 měsíci

      This is just a power amp, no Bluetooth. Only line-in via RCAs.
      The Fosi BT20A Pro would fit the bill. Bluetooth and tone controls, lil less power, lil noisier (but still, much much lower noise than most mini-amps).

  • @TheJimmydan67
    @TheJimmydan67 Před 11 měsíci

    what kind of amperage was it pulling??

  • @MAGGOT_VOMIT
    @MAGGOT_VOMIT Před 11 měsíci +1

    Great review. Would def need a headphone output. I've been using my Fiio M17 for almost 2yrs and have really enjoyed using it with all my IEM's and EarCans. Only thing is, the M17 is a "brick" and weighs about 1.25lbs. I was lying in bed scrolling through my music and it slipped outa my hand and smashed my face!! It bloodied my lip, hit my left-eye and made me see LIGHTNING!!

  • @DonziGT230
    @DonziGT230 Před 11 měsíci +10

    The big power supply was probably being limited by the micro thin wires you used to connect it to the amp. You should know that those baby wires can't effectively supply the 20 amp potential of the big power supply. It would have been great if you showed how may amps were being drawn from it under load, I'll bet that it was well below 10a.

    • @ruikazane5123
      @ruikazane5123 Před 11 měsíci

      Heck, that tiny chip amp alone has up to 17 amps of current limit, built in. Should be interesting to do that

    • @Synthematix
      @Synthematix Před 10 měsíci

      How many amps do you think a PCB trace can carry? think about it

    • @DonziGT230
      @DonziGT230 Před 10 měsíci

      @@Synthematix That depends on many factors, but the highest I've seen stated was 450 amps. Regardless, that has nothing to do with my comment nor the limiting factors of an amplifier or its power supply.

  • @cafe80s
    @cafe80s Před 10 měsíci

    When these little apps get into this price territory, especially with the power supply upgrades, the only advantage is really just size over getting a two-channel receiver from Sony or Yamaha... Especially with all the additional features a real two-channel receiver would have, like multiple inputs a remote control Bluetooth built in etc.

    • @leadsledray
      @leadsledray Před 10 měsíci +1

      it does exactly what an amplifier is meant to do, amplify. in my case i picked one of these up to take the place of a Rotel 2 channel receiver that i was using only for it's amplifier channels. this chip amp sounds far better than what was a quite spendy 2 channel receiver. I'm using it to power the bass bins of some Klipschorns biamped with vintage Dynaco tube amps powering the mids and highs, and a miniDSP flex doing preamp duties and of course, DSP. theis cheap little amp is a serious competitor to actual audiophile components that cost thousands of dollars. to compare it to a cheap 2 channel receiver is really selling it short.

  • @BH4x0r
    @BH4x0r Před 10 měsíci

    Is that a Kenwood SW305D you used?

  • @daniloberserk
    @daniloberserk Před 6 měsíci

    Bring the A07 Max please!

  • @finnderp9977
    @finnderp9977 Před 10 měsíci

    Had Fosi Audio DAC, worked fine but after a year volume knob started to develop issues (no sound on certain levels) and started to get power surge on USB port errors. It also told Windows to support audio codecs which it didnt support which caused nasty buzz before I found way to disable incorrect codes (which reseted in each Win update). Before that I had Topping AMP/DAC which lasted 2-3 years before died. So dont have much of trust on chi-fi today.

  • @pirateradioFPV
    @pirateradioFPV Před 11 měsíci +7

    It's so weird they make the stupid power claims when these little boxes push out very respectable amount of power at 4 ohms. Think about it, if they told us 2x150w at 4ohm and it pushed closer to 200w, we would be happy. But if they claim 2x300w but only do half of that, we're sad.

    • @krowwithakay
      @krowwithakay Před 9 měsíci +1

      And they sound really good! Not as good as the tda7297 in my opinion but close and with like 12x the power lol.

    • @pirateradioFPV
      @pirateradioFPV Před 9 měsíci

      @@krowwithakay Not to say I agree, but I have 3 amps with the tpa3255 and for the money, they're untouchable. You can get better stuff but stuff that's meaningfully better? Hardly!

  • @BuddaDrifts
    @BuddaDrifts Před 11 měsíci

    Hey Williston 1 love all your videos man Tve been.
    Watching for a few years now and finnaly u convinced
    me with that last video I'm gonna buy than 1500watt
    stinger amp thanks for the review but what I was
    gonna say is can u retest that stinger amp u had or
    next time u test a amp can u run a test on the dyno at
    about 12 volts because I wanna know the watts I'm
    running when I bass hard and drop to around 12 volts
    because I know at 14.4 we get the most but we do
    drop volts so thanks Williston reach back to me❤❤😊

  • @chrisg4852
    @chrisg4852 Před 10 měsíci

    Im looking at a Fosi amp to power a 10 inch subwoofer rated to 400w, the cross over would have already happened in the home theater amp, so the Fosi would only be processing the LFE signal coming from the pre out of another amp. thoughts on this amp being capable to run the 10 inch? I was looking at the M03 Fosi mono amp however that is only rated at 200W

    • @armandosinger
      @armandosinger Před 10 měsíci

      It could work, but you need to look at 3 variables: 1) the sensitivity of your 10” subwoofer driver (SPL at 1W @ 1m), 2) the impedance of your subwoofer driver (4 Ohm?, 8 Ohm?) 3) your listening distance.
      For this amp, you’d want a high sensitivity, 4 Ohm speaker, preferably. If sensitivity is 90db at 1W at 1 meter, you need to double the wattage for each additional 3db of volume. So if you want to hit 110db at 1m distance, you need about 20db, or about 7 doubling from 1W. So 1W, 2w, 4w, 8w, 16w, 32w, 64w, 128w. You need 128w for that volume at 1m.
      If your speaker is 8 Ohm, then you don’t have enough juice, because you have a max of 108w until the amp clips. But if it’s a 4 Ohm speaker, you’re good because you have 189w until clipping, but you need 128w for that volume.
      Finally, your listening distance is probably not 1 meter. If it’s, say 3 meters, then you need even more power for the same volume. You can use an online volume distance calculator if you don’t know the formula (every time you double the distance, you need to increase by 6db form the same volume at the new distance.)
      So figure out the max volume you want to hit at your listening distance, then do the math to know if this amp can handle it.
      Chances are, if it’s a small, low sensitivity subwoofer, and you want good volume, it’s not enough. I will be using this amp temporarily for a dual 18” 98db sensitive subwoofer driver. Doubling the drivers gives 104db sensitivity, and wiring the 8 Ohm drivers in parallel gives a 4 Ohm total. So the amp is good in my case for small rooms. HTH

  • @drewdown_p338
    @drewdown_p338 Před 10 měsíci

    We do like to hear the bass👍🏼

    • @Douglas_Blake_579
      @Douglas_Blake_579 Před 10 měsíci

      Both the M03 and V3 are TPA3255 chips. The M03 is running in PBTL (Parallel Bridge Tied Load) mode for maximum current to you speakers. The V3 is in BTL mode for stereo operation. So the M03 is actually best suited to your application.

  • @Stan_the_Belgian
    @Stan_the_Belgian Před 6 měsíci +1

    48v 20a power supplies can be found for 60usd and can power this to the max

  • @peterkay2406
    @peterkay2406 Před 10 měsíci

    That’s really impressive for a mini amp