I bought a set of these a month ago Daryl and sold them last week. Picked up a set of used V1 10 case of ape sticks for £100 more UK. They work better for my needs and eye candy and a bit less “vegas” look that these have. I like these just a bit “clunky” in design and use. I’m not a DMX phobe and the ease of use of the APE with my ape tubes, coins & cans is far easier for my needs. I do have 12 of the IR4’s and they’re great as uplight and dance floor lights with my W-app all together. Nice review though. 👌
I bought them from a different chinese factory with only minor differences. The quality is good. The lights are pretty bright and the battery lasts even in the brightest setting for a complete wedding. But unfortunately one of the batterys is dead after a year and the factory will not ship a new one, because it is "complicated" ... Those Stands are in deed a bit flimpsy. But you can tighten the screws with loctide to hold them inside the "leg-holder". I mean the ring, that holds the legs.
@19Jose91 I disassembled the battery. It are 6 cells, not labeled and they have a battery-management soldered inside. Replacement will be possible but also not cheap and some work to do for soldering... I bought mine from BlueSea Lighting / NWIITC
Just got the uplights today (7/10) with the link on your video. I'm excited thank u for the info. I'll be looking to buy your auto loops soon as I get more familiar with sound switch. Really, I don't know what I'm doing lol work in progress.. learning...
Gra4t video! Thank you for all the work you put into these! I wantef to ask you if you can explain how you manage to mount the tubs zig-zaggy for the band? I love that look! Thank you!
I love that look too! That was with the Chauvet Well STX 180 which have their weight distributed evenly, and are quite a bitter lighter. I haven't figured out a way with the 360 tubes that looks good. Here's a video on the well stx czcams.com/video/jPLpYGMYWlU/video.html
@@DJDarylBennettTthank you for the reply! OK that makes sense. I have the titan 360s by both lighting and they weigh a lot so I was running into that problem. I did end up buying a bunch of clamps to do some offsets. If I come up with a clever solution, I'll let you know, and I'll keep checking your video to see if you do to :)
They don't have huge throw like normal washes but they provide a nice diffused light that isn't too harsh. If there's no house lights, these will do really well
Do you know any affordable tube lights with physical dmx? I play in a band that uses wireless devices that may interfere with dmx wireless, only reason i won't buy these
These are pretty good and affordable! One of my friends has these for his band The Best Pixel Tube-Style Light Under $100 - Gear Review czcams.com/video/eLmceDWp-f4/video.html
No trick about it, just plug it in and then turn it on. Double check the outlet is working, the charging cable. If it still isn't charging, your light may be defective
im looking to finally get into some dmx light for home party use.. so nothing too serious. these look like what I want to start my setup with, along with soundswitch. would this be a reasonable setup for a beginner? would be using it with an xdj-xz and serato dj.
These would work, I'd probably use something even cheaper and simpler for just home party use. czcams.com/video/eLmceDWp-f4/video.htmlsi=jcHCLmJ1NgHrRJQD
I use sound switch DMX cable, how can i connect the tubes if I am not using the wireless transmitter? Coz I use normal DMX cables from the laptop to the other fixtures
Hey Daryl! Happy to report my findings using the app for the 360 tubes. 1. There is not way to engage the different sound modes. 2 There is no way to engage the different auto modes. 3. There is no way to engage the strobe. I was able to select state colors from the color wheel which I thought was really cool!@@DJDarylBennett
Hi Daryl This was really helpful l just got my pixel tubes. For now l will just use the remote as l do with the Both RF up lights l have. Will the Both lighting App operate/control the pixel tubes and my RF up lights together? Thanks
@@DJDarylBennett Thanks for getting to me, much appreciated. It’s a shame it only controls one light as find the whole DMX controller thing a bit overwhelming.
Keen to get some myself but my fear is that guests will grab them and use them as light sabres as they look like toys. Has this ever happened to you before at a gig? How do you stop people from grabbing them?
sooo i dont use soundswitch, but i was wondering if you knew how to connect these tubes to rekordbox or even the ADJ WMX1...they just came in the mail 2 days ago and im lowkey pretty frustrated lol 😂... been sitting here for like 3 hours trying to control them so everything looks uniform ! i just want a XLR input so i can control these things !!!!!
@@DJDarylBennett thnx, got mine today, i was wondering if you might know this. if i use a led par bar also. can i stick a wireless dmx donner dongle into it, put it on the same id channel as the tubes and slave the parbar to the master of the tube? or is that a stretch?
@@DJ_CJ_NL if you have a DMX signal going into your par, then you could put a wireless dmx dongle on the OUT of the par, and the tube would receive the signal. Of course the signal would need to include valid commands for the tubes. You cannot master/slave two unique fixtures, they must be the same ones
@@DJDarylBennett ah thanx Daryl. I don’t do that. This is the first light upgrade i did. I only have had a par bar for years. Looking for ways to intergrate but i’m going to use soundmode on both for the first upcoming gig see how that works.
Is there a way to make the lights bounce similar to how they do in some of the sound modes when just using autoloops on Soundswitch? I tried changing them to Multicell, but haven't seen a difference, they just do the normal wash effects. Not sure if I'm missing something.
You could do it manually in 40 or 80 channel mode. You can also do it 12 channel mode with attribute cues. My SS auto loop presets also do this effect.
@@lostproductionspdx the led screen shows that it's charging once you plug it in, but you can still change the settings and operate it as normal. And it doesn't stop operation
Try this link djnowlighting.com/products/4pcs-with-a-bag-wireless-battery-both-tube-360-degree-led-tube-dj-light-pixel-dj-full-color-wireless-titan-dmx-ir?DIST=TkNA
@@DJDarylBennett yeah? you think it would work? is there like a generic led fixture in sound switch that could be used for this? or can you make your own fixture within soundswitch? i’m very interested
@@eross21 they have several led pixel profiles already, and they have a very basic RGB 1 cell LED tape profile, so you can have as many of those as you configure with your led tape
@@DJDarylBennett 325 for a SS project? HAHAHA absolutely ridiculous and taking the piss out of people. I can buy custom MIDI mappings for DJ software for about 20 dollars and that shit takes hours longer than this.
@@djLovelyTime this is oddly reminiscent of people complaining about a wedding DJ charging $325/hr... I stand by my pricing. Plenty of people have purchased this project for the well stx and ax1 and have loved it. I have created plenty of resources to help people do this on their own for free. 🤷I've done some midi mapping and the time involved, complexity and artistry are not even in the same category.
I've taken them to many gigs since the making of this video and so far so good. The Chauvet well STX 180s, two of them have broken since this video and had to be sent for a warranty repair
Man china knows exactly where you live and everything about you. I noticed you buy. A lot of stuff from them. Your best bet is not to buy direct from China rather than sellers from the US that ship from US addresses. Peace
@@chadnliz2k11 not really it's called surveillance. It's not the seller, it's the Chinese government that enjoys infuriating and getting information about you. Now they can easily achieve future info on your buying and many other things. It's creepy.
I bought a set of these a month ago Daryl and sold them last week. Picked up a set of used V1 10 case of ape sticks for £100 more UK.
They work better for my needs and eye candy and a bit less “vegas” look that these have.
I like these just a bit “clunky” in design and use. I’m not a DMX phobe and the ease of use of the APE with my ape tubes, coins & cans is far easier for my needs. I do have 12 of the IR4’s and they’re great as uplight and dance floor lights with my W-app all together.
Nice review though. 👌
Thanks for sharing your experience, and thanks for watching! The ape labs do looks great in photo & video!
Your content is top notch my friend... definitely going to purchase some of your light shows!
Awesome, thank you!
I just bought a set of these and they are coming tomorrow! All so very helpful and looking forward to taking your DMX notes will be helpful!
How exciting! Congrats on your purchase and good luck!
Your always so helpful, I’ve learned so much from your video! These may be my next purchase
Awesome! Thank you!
I bought them from a different chinese factory with only minor differences. The quality is good. The lights are pretty bright and the battery lasts even in the brightest setting for a complete wedding. But unfortunately one of the batterys is dead after a year and the factory will not ship a new one, because it is "complicated" ... Those Stands are in deed a bit flimpsy. But you can tighten the screws with loctide to hold them inside the "leg-holder". I mean the ring, that holds the legs.
Thanks for sharing your experience!
Which ones have you got? And can’t you just plug some other battery?
@19Jose91 I disassembled the battery. It are 6 cells, not labeled and they have a battery-management soldered inside. Replacement will be possible but also not cheap and some work to do for soldering... I bought mine from BlueSea Lighting / NWIITC
Awesome, Daryl. I love to see you crushing it on CZcams. Keep it goin! 🔥
High praise coming from you! Thank you!
Awesome video and review, the only thing that’s holding me from pulling the trigger on purchasing these is the IR remote.
What about the IR remote?
Awesome review! I'll definitely be buying your programs!
Sweet! Thank you
Thanks for the awesome detailed review Daryl! Placed my order for 4 tubes on Friday, so this video will help tremendously!
Glad I could help!
For mobile DJs, I think real-time music visualization devices will be of interest.
Agreed. A lot of the devices on the market currently are not designed to withstand the rigors of mobile DJ work.
Just got the uplights today (7/10) with the link on your video. I'm excited thank u for the info. I'll be looking to buy your auto loops soon as I get more familiar with sound switch. Really, I don't know what I'm doing lol work in progress.. learning...
Congrats! I have a 50% sale on the autoloops as well right now
Gra4t video! Thank you for all the work you put into these! I wantef to ask you if you can explain how you manage to mount the tubs zig-zaggy for the band? I love that look! Thank you!
I love that look too! That was with the Chauvet Well STX 180 which have their weight distributed evenly, and are quite a bitter lighter. I haven't figured out a way with the 360 tubes that looks good. Here's a video on the well stx
czcams.com/video/jPLpYGMYWlU/video.html
@@DJDarylBennettTthank you for the reply! OK that makes sense. I have the titan 360s by both lighting and they weigh a lot so I was running into that problem. I did end up buying a bunch of clamps to do some offsets. If I come up with a clever solution, I'll let you know, and I'll keep checking your video to see if you do to :)
Hi, I also bought these LED tubes but I can't connect them to my DMX light console. I have a white LED on the tube. Where am I going wrong?
Love your set ups✌🏾
Thank you!
@@DJDarylBennett I'm saving up for those Both lights right now
@@djkb9596they're definitely worth it
Hey man i was just wondering what profile youre usibg for the titan tubes in the visualizer you use? Youre videos have helped a ton!
80 channel, 12 channel is easier to program but you can’t see the attribute cues in the visualizer
@DJDarylBennett okay cool and what about in ma 3d? What fixture are you using since both isn't in their catalog?
Awesome video! Are these used for lighting the dancefloor? Like for fill lighting. Or more for just decoration by the DJ booth?
They don't have huge throw like normal washes but they provide a nice diffused light that isn't too harsh. If there's no house lights, these will do really well
Thank you. Looks great
Hang it upside down from the heavy side and that will solve your mounting at an angle problem
That's a real thick lightsaber
That's very true!
Great review
Thank you!
My set of 4 came with stands.
The set of 4 with stands wasn't available when I made this video. But definitely a great option for not much more
Do you know any affordable tube lights with physical dmx? I play in a band that uses wireless devices that may interfere with dmx wireless, only reason i won't buy these
These are pretty good and affordable! One of my friends has these for his band
The Best Pixel Tube-Style Light Under $100 - Gear Review
czcams.com/video/eLmceDWp-f4/video.html
great video ! I have a question How do I charge these I have had mine on the charger for hours and it’s zero
No trick about it, just plug it in and then turn it on. Double check the outlet is working, the charging cable. If it still isn't charging, your light may be defective
great review!
Thanks!
im looking to finally get into some dmx light for home party use.. so nothing too serious. these look like what I want to start my setup with, along with soundswitch. would this be a reasonable setup for a beginner? would be using it with an xdj-xz and serato dj.
These would work, I'd probably use something even cheaper and simpler for just home party use.
czcams.com/video/eLmceDWp-f4/video.htmlsi=jcHCLmJ1NgHrRJQD
Excellent as always! Thanks for this ! 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
My pleasure!
I use sound switch DMX cable, how can i connect the tubes if I am not using the wireless transmitter? Coz I use normal DMX cables from the laptop to the other fixtures
Might be time to upgrade to wireless or put a transmitter in one of the DMX out of your other lights
Do you have a link for Australia purchase please
Any chance the app could be further developed so that all functionality of the light is controlled via the app, replacing use of the IR remote?
I think the app can control all of the functionality! Is there a particular feature that is missing that you'd like to see?
Hey Daryl! Happy to report my findings using the app for the 360 tubes. 1. There is not way to engage the different sound modes. 2 There is no way to engage the different auto modes. 3. There is no way to engage the strobe. I was able to select state colors from the color wheel which I thought was really cool!@@DJDarylBennett
@@djjohnpiazza7043while I have very little direct influence on the app, I will pass on your comments to my contacts
Hi and thanks for the video. I've watched several videos and I can't get my tubes to work in slaver - master mode.
I had the same issue when I tried on Saturday. I'll try again and post an update if I figure it out
Hi Daryl
This was really helpful l just got my pixel tubes. For now l will just use the remote as l do with the Both RF up lights l have. Will the Both lighting App operate/control the pixel tubes and my RF up lights together?
Thanks
Thanks for watching. I believe that only one light can be controlled with the App.
@@DJDarylBennett
Thanks for getting to me, much appreciated. It’s a shame it only controls one light as find the whole DMX controller thing a bit overwhelming.
Keen to get some myself but my fear is that guests will grab them and use them as light sabres as they look like toys. Has this ever happened to you before at a gig? How do you stop people from grabbing them?
I've had someone grab an uplight but never one of these. Having them on mic stands behind the booth definitely helps
I've never had a guest grab a tube from me.
U mentioned godox in this video have u tried to use it with Soundswitch? I don’t mind that it’s wired but how did u wire did u use a ether net to dmx?
No I haven't. They have DMX to 1/8 cable, which is what I think they use
Legend
Is it possible to create sequential patents with these?
Sequential patterns? If you use DMX, you can create any sort of patterns that you like! I don't think it's possible without dmx though
Good
Thanks
sooo i dont use soundswitch, but i was wondering if you knew how to connect these tubes to rekordbox or even the ADJ WMX1...they just came in the mail 2 days ago and im lowkey pretty frustrated lol 😂... been sitting here for like 3 hours trying to control them so everything looks uniform ! i just want a XLR input so i can control these things !!!!!
This video should help! You just need the Donner transmitter connected to the wmx1 czcams.com/video/7PnoEP-vdRs/video.html
hey i think your the right guy to ask, can you sync these also with ir4 mini's, via master slave and the wireless dmx?
Yes you can, I do it in my uplighting for my newer gear review videos
@@DJDarylBennett thnx, got mine today, i was wondering if you might know this. if i use a led par bar also. can i stick a wireless dmx donner dongle into it, put it on the same id channel as the tubes and slave the parbar to the master of the tube? or is that a stretch?
@@DJ_CJ_NL if you have a DMX signal going into your par, then you could put a wireless dmx dongle on the OUT of the par, and the tube would receive the signal.
Of course the signal would need to include valid commands for the tubes. You cannot master/slave two unique fixtures, they must be the same ones
@@DJDarylBennett ah thanx Daryl. I don’t do that. This is the first light upgrade i did. I only have had a par bar for years. Looking for ways to intergrate but i’m going to use soundmode on both for the first upcoming gig see how that works.
Is there a way to make the lights bounce similar to how they do in some of the sound modes when just using autoloops on Soundswitch? I tried changing them to Multicell, but haven't seen a difference, they just do the normal wash effects. Not sure if I'm missing something.
You could do it manually in 40 or 80 channel mode.
You can also do it 12 channel mode with attribute cues.
My SS auto loop presets also do this effect.
@@DJDarylBennett Thanks. I apologize, I'm re watching now and realized you explained the attribute cues
Hey Darrell, where can i get the soundswitch tube scripts?
darylbennett.net/both-titan-tube-360-bo192/
Can you control these using the Airstream DMX?
Yes you should be able to use any DMX controller or software
It doesn't operate plugged in continuously?
I didn't think you could but I tried further and it looks like you can
@@DJDarylBennett Good to know, would be very strange if not
@@lostproductionspdx the led screen shows that it's charging once you plug it in, but you can still change the settings and operate it as normal. And it doesn't stop operation
Where can I buy these for UK use are these better than freedom sticks
Try this link djnowlighting.com/products/4pcs-with-a-bag-wireless-battery-both-tube-360-degree-led-tube-dj-light-pixel-dj-full-color-wireless-titan-dmx-ir?DIST=TkNA
so if i have a dmx to SI decoder. i could program and automate neopixel led tape in soundswitch?
Yes. I've wanted to try this for a while, sounds fun
@@DJDarylBennett yeah? you think it would work? is there like a generic led fixture in sound switch that could be used for this? or can you make your own fixture within soundswitch? i’m very interested
@@eross21 they have several led pixel profiles already, and they have a very basic RGB 1 cell LED tape profile, so you can have as many of those as you configure with your led tape
@@DJDarylBennett oh awesome! i get my soundswitch software and dmx interface today. we’ll see how
it goes. thanks for your help
I have tried to get the bottom endcap off to replace with the sound activated one and it will just not turn. Any ideas?
The side with the handle? It should just twist off
@@DJDarylBennett Nope. Stuck
Hi!!! Did anyone else have trouble having these shipped to the US?
If you're having issues, contact Bothlighting.com directly
Where is the link to your store?
It's not in the description.
You are totally right! Thanks for letting me know. I've since updated it: darylbennett.net/both-titan-tube-360-bo192/
@@DJDarylBennett Thanks. will it work for 8 tubes too?
@@DJDarylBennett 325 for a SS project? HAHAHA absolutely ridiculous and taking the piss out of people.
I can buy custom MIDI mappings for DJ software for about 20 dollars and that shit takes hours longer than this.
@@djLovelyTime this is oddly reminiscent of people complaining about a wedding DJ charging $325/hr...
I stand by my pricing. Plenty of people have purchased this project for the well stx and ax1 and have loved it. I have created plenty of resources to help people do this on their own for free. 🤷I've done some midi mapping and the time involved, complexity and artistry are not even in the same category.
@@htcmc5 yes. If you batch them, 4 unique addresses across 8 lights
They look really fragile for $850. They are making a killing off a $50 item
I've taken them to many gigs since the making of this video and so far so good. The Chauvet well STX 180s, two of them have broken since this video and had to be sent for a warranty repair
Sell ur well sticks and buy more both lol
Still weighing that option... Haha
Man china knows exactly where you live and everything about you. I noticed you buy. A lot of stuff from them. Your best bet is not to buy direct from China rather than sellers from the US that ship from US addresses. Peace
When a US seller dropships, the Chinese company receives your address just the same. Peace
That's silly paranoia
@@chadnliz2k11 not really it's called surveillance. It's not the seller, it's the Chinese government that enjoys infuriating and getting information about you. Now they can easily achieve future info on your buying and many other things. It's creepy.