HiFi shop sketch from Not the 9 oclock news with Rowan Atkinson Griff Rhys Jones Mel smith and (not in this sketch) Pamela Stevenson The show ran for four series from 1979 to 1982
+Hiram Hackenbacker Sadly that is indeed true, I was regularly insulted, and went on to manage a shop myself, and made sure I didn't pay homage to this sketch......although we did keep a range of shower caps......
in my experience it's completely reversed nowadays: 16-18 year old (after that they're too expensive) nitwits that are of very little help; you're better off reading the product pages, reviews and forums on the internet.
Hiram Hackenbacker I get the sence they were staffed by "know it all twats" that liked to point out to their customers that they unlike themselves didn't know shit,....am i close ?
I remember going to a computer games shop in my hometown where the staff were just like this. After one particularly humiliating experience where I left the shop in tears my father took me back down with one of his friends who just happened to be a freelance programmer who’s work was to be found in most of the leading games of the time and was well known in the industry. After about 5 mins in the shop with my dad’s friend completely humiliating them (one of them claimed he knew my dads mate the programmer until he told him that’s me and we have never met) I left with lots of free games and a kempston joystick (something to be prized at the time) Just shows it pays to be humble, helpful and respectful as there is always someone out there who will know more than you.
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I was once treated really badly in a grocery shop. I went back an other day, filled up a whole trolley with products, just one of each. Only small stuff. At the end there was a whole maintain on the trolley. I think I used an hour or something. And then I just parked the trolley in a corner and walked out. Imagine the work it must have been to sort that all out and put it back in the shelves 🤣🤣 If they would have stopped me I would have just said I forgot my wallet in the car. Can't go wrong 😉
@@Dani-it5sy Yes, this Coffee culture has me baffled. Whilst waiting for an appointment I bit the bullet and went in a Costa and the menu was vast so I just asked for a plain Coffee, with milk. the cocky female assistant decided she was going to make me look a dork and head bobbing away, said "Do you mean a flat white" so I asked what that was and got a very sarcastic eye roll and, "oh, bless dont you know what a flat white is" to which I replied "do you know what Atomic Absorption is" and she stopped smirking and said "no" and I said, "That's why you're working in a coffee shop"
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Oh mate, I was about to say the same... to this day you can't go to a guitar shop and try a guitar comfortably! Thing is... when you are a teenager you think they are too cool for you but with age you realise they are mostly 30-40yo losers who dress like it's California in 1978 but actually they still live with their mums in Leicestershire. Haha
Compared to the people who actually used to work in audio stores back when there were audio stores, these two are polite and engaging. One reason why there used to be audio stores...
Some years ago I went into a local HiFi shop here in Cambridge UK to buy a compete home cinema system with a budget of about £2200 in today's money. There were three members of staff, one dealing with another customer, the other two chatting and ignoring people. After trying to get their attention I walked out. That HiFi shop is long gone.
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I went into an Audio shop in the mid 80’s having bought the magazines and done my research I knew exactly what I wanted. I ended up walking out and purchasing everything somewhere else because of the sales assistants snotty attitude.
I'm sure you had to suffer through CD, Minidisc and DVD too ;) Alas, I started with Betamax and Cassette, now I just download everything or stream it from illegal sites. Perfick.
This is not a sketch, rather an expert documented account of how specialist hi-fi shops were in the 70 and 80s. I suspect for the few that are still around, these blokes are still the same.
Not much diff in 2022.Still the same vibe although more hipsterish but way better than the types portrayed by N.T.N.O.N boys.They saw themselves as guardians to the Covenant in many cases.
Anyone remember the Tandy stores.Full of spotty faces whizz kids selling audio and very early computer systems.? The terms they used were not in any dictionary back then!Listening to music was getting serious buisiness.
Yes for anyone who remembers Richer Sounds whose staff would ring a bell and have sex if you also agreed to buy insurance on the item they had just sold you
I worked in a stereo shop in the early 70's, and thought that I had learned a lot of valuable knowledge from my manager. A year after I quit that job I got audio training that included quite a bit of physics, and learned what an absolutely clueless ass that manager was.
This is so true of some shops. I loved working in a hifi shop in the 1980’s and was entirely honest with customers which made me popular. Some assistants just wanted to sell the more expensive gear but rarely sold anything, whereas selling loads of good but reasonably priced items kept management happy.
@@MrGigi-dz9cv of course it is that’s the point of the sketch but from personal experience arrogant assistants did work in the hifi and photography trades. I remember auditioning a turntable and took some of my records and the assistant said “I don’t want to listen to that bloody thing “. The amazing thing though is when I insisted on playing it the assistant was blown away and went out and bought it for himself.
@@cahillgreg They are called 'essential workers ' these days. Everyone has to start somewhere. I loved it & I loved helping customers unlike a lot of poorly trained staff today. But every now and again we would have fun with the self righteous.
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I'd love to see something like this today. Although it might be quite difficult, I don't think I've ever met anyone in PC world with any level of actual knowledge..
Had a lovely Kenwood stack system with a linear tracking turntable and single slot cd player with a graphic equaliser with spectrum analyser. I only went in there for some speaker cable.
Back in the 80s worked in a Hi-Fi shop and this sketch just summed things up perfectly. We had a mixture of customers who knew nothing, to those that thought they knew it all. This is priceless!
Few will have heard of the provincial journalist Peter Rhodes, but many years ago he came up with a truly brilliant concept: The Sales Prevention Manager. This clip sums up the arrogant, patronising condescension shown by so many sales assistants back then towards those who ultimately paid their salaries, and which must indeed have prevented many sales. A much better ending though would have been for Mel Smith to somehow electrocute those sneering tossers with their own equipment.
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This sketch was written by Andrew Marshall, who created 2 Point 4 Children, and David Renwick, famous for One Foot In The Grave. It was originally in their Radio 4 show, The Burkiss Way.
A friend bought a HiFi from a non-specialist shop; he asked the salesman "What is the frequency response of the speakers?" Answer "Not certain but I'm sure it will be all you need". Friend -"What about the power output?" Answer "All the power you need". Friend-"What is the figure for total harmonic distortion?" Answer "All the distortion you want" Exit friend, wallet intact.
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'Do you want woofers and tweeters with it?' And 'Do you want a bag on your head?' have stuck with me ever since I first saw this sketch when it was first broadcast. The way Rowan Atkinson says it, still makes me laugh!
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I'm in tears. Years ago I went to a hifi show in Perth There was a demo with sound of breaking glass . The salesman was pretending to throw glases. Quite impressive : (. I went to another room doing a speaker demo. I said they sound like a 3 way. Salesman asked how could I tell . I told him I could hear 2 dips in response at crossover points. His response was impossible, nobody can hear the difference in any of this stuff. Note ... I had already read the review of the particular speaker : )
The shop expert is still alive and well, music shops mainly, but a garden tool and forestry store told me one of the chainsaws in my garage had never existed in any form, bless ‘em.
I like the way I've lived long enough to see this sketch go from being an accurate depiction of the contemporary "hi-fi"-buying experience, to being ironically "grandad"-ish itself when digital audio replaced vinyl, and now back round to relevance again with the return of vinyl.
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My thoughts exactly. Somehow, this is how I felt when I was reading about vinyl equipment for the first time in audiophile's blogs and asking around in some local Audio stores (I'm a 90's gal). That's why I find this sketch so funny because it's relevancy is coming back nowadays with the return of the vinyl IMO.
I would have liked to have seen the "twist" version where the old guy was playing with them, and he says "yes the speakers better have good woofers due to the superior bass response of my 78's" 🙂
@@yellowfolder Stream? Is that a form of swimming? In all seriousness my Ipod of many years broke last year, went and bought another off Ebay, youngsters these days, dont know they're born
I went in to one of these stores in 1982. I can't say the experience was enjoyable. After some to-ing and fro-ing, I completely lost it. My vision went red, and I sort of blacked out after hitting the cashier with a subwoofer enclosure. Anyway, when I woke up, I was in a cell in the local nick. The coppers told me I'd stoved the cashier's head in, and partially eaten a Paramedic who'd come to help after the assistant made a 999 call. I got 5 years. When I eventually got out, I went back to the same shop. As soon as the cashier got slightly uppity, I fixed him with the death stare I'd learned in the slammer which I'd used to scare Roger the Wierdo off whenever he got too close. Then the cashier recognised me from before, and began gibbering uncontrollably. No problems. I got the goddamn turntable. I'm now listening to Rick Astley's "never gonna give you up" on repeat. Bliss.
Vinyl rocks. It's something about having a physical medium and seeing the disk spin. I find that I pay more attention to the actual music and actually listen to full albums (as many albums were intended to) when using my turntable. When listening to Spotify I usually skip ahead after 30 seconds and very rarely play a full album to it's. So despite having virtually all music ever at my finger tips I actually listen to less music and get less satisfaction from it when using streaming services. That's why LPs rock! Vinyl does however not sound better than digital as some (severly) misinformed audiophiles believe. When it comes to sound quality digital wins by a large margine (even compressed lossy streamed files). But the total experience is still better and more fulfilling with vinyl and a nice record deck. Oh and btw, it's actually your grand kids who's not keeping up with the curve. Vinyl has been ultra hip since atleast 10 years and when you walk in to a record shop it's cramped with young hipster kids talking about limited pressings, 7" singles on colored vinyl and what have you. CD's are mostly obsolete though.
Most of what we used to call music centres had a 78 speed anyway. As kids we used to play our 45’s at that speed and find it highly amusing. Who remembers loving a new single so much, they played it with the arm back 🤣
I've been into a computer store like this. I came from an engineering background and learnt programming, used to teach programming, and kept up with computer stuff for years until other things took my interest. A few years ago I was looking to upgrade my PC so went shopping. The place had two desktops with similar specs except for the CPU, where Intel and AMD had different characteristics that were new to me. I forget the details now but lets say one had Multi-Whatsits and the other had Dedicated Whatsits. I asked the guy how they differed. He went into smartarse mode and said, "Well, one has Multi-Whatsits and the other has Dedicated Whatsits" and stood there looking smug. I said, "Tell your boss I went elsewhere" and walked out.
You should have asked for the boss and told him to his face. Took his name and then gone elsewhere. Then wrote to the MD of the company attaching the receipt from the other supplier. They would have said so what, it is just another one of the companies in our group.
@@xenorac If only. We spent £400 on a Grundig TV 📺 😉! Agreed in those days, TV were relatively "big". Now 55" is the norm 😆 But houses 🏡 were cheap at £25K for a 3 bedroom in 1978! Homes have got smaller, TVs have got bigger!
Being born in 93 meant the biggest colour TV in my house for at least the first decade and a half of my life was roughly the same size (possibly a little smaller) and still relying on a CRT. We didn't upgrade to HD until around 2009ish, or maybe a little bit earlier. The only big difference was the PS2 taking up space near the TV and the better but not significantly better screen resolution, honestly screen resolution never really meant much to me until HD came along and made me feel like I'd been launched into the far future. I'll give CRT TVs this over HD TVs, it sure was nice being able to clear up any static just by jumping on the floor.
Yes if you're over 60 and go into a mobile phone shop and start asking questions get ready for lots of eye rolling from the salesperson (at least that's been my experience)
Like how Griff is just there for the laughs! And the sketch is followed by a musical interlude called Gob On You. Looking back on their first series I notice how similar the framework of the sketches are to Python.
I rang a hifi shop which specialised in Wharfedale equipment, when my Wharfedale tv went on the blink. He told me repeatedly I didnt have a Wharfedale tv, but as I have the ability to read, I kept telling him I did . But it went nowhere and I got it fixed by an independent for a few quid in the end.
At least these two were having a laugh. Most audio stores I remember were full of 'serious' guys who came over seriously offended, irritated and insulted if you just gently asked a couple of basic questions.
That's because they only had a very basic understanding of what they were selling, themselves, and they were terrified that if you asked too many questions they'd be found out!
I was in a Liverpool hi-fi shop in the early eighties when the manager told a customer to leave because he said he didn’t like the look of an amplifier 😂
My grand father had one of the first electric grampohones And he had one record Marty Robbins - The Gunslinger I used to listen to it everytime I went there. Down in El Paso Then my father bought a windup gramaphone - I suppose that was all he could afford. We had one single - Lord Rockingham's 11 - Hootsmon!
I used to help out in a model shop back in the mid 70s. We were pretty much as smug and offensive. Admittedly I was only around 14/15 but the older guys in the shop loved to regard new customers as idiots, despite the fact that is was them who, well, worked in a toy shop.
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This is me trying to buy a cup of coffee - not Americano, cappuccino, latte, mocha or frappuccino - I just want a cup of coffee. Seems a little too much to ask these days.
Say you want a black coffee or a white coffee and they'll get you an americano. Or just order an americano as it's the 2020s and every cafe has been selling the same range of drinks for at least 30yrs now and frankly I'm pretty sure you've learned by now.
Not the 9 o’ clock news a fantastic comedy skit show ….. with great comedians at the start of their careers, Atkinson, Smith, Rhys-Jones and Stephenson…..love this and Alas Smith & Jones.
I actually had a record player when I was a kid that had 78 speed, even though records that ran at that speed had not been made for decades. Anyway, I always found it fun to play my 33⅓ records at 78 speed... Made all performers sound like Alvin and the Chipmonks...
10 Print "Rumbelows is rubbish!" 20 GOTO 10 Me and my brother leave the store, after having also switched a hifi off and turned the volume all the way up. Ahh those were the days.
I used to do similar in my local Boots :) They had a BBC Micro on display, fixed into a unit where the power button was inaccessible, and I had worked out one line of code that would make the computer wait 15 seconds for me to get away from it, then emit a piercing screech while strobing the screen horribly ... and, to make it worse, I used to know the "FX" code to disable the Escape key so they had to power down the whole display to stop it. Fun times :)
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Now "amps" is an ambiguous word. Is it short for "Ampere" (measure of electric current) or "amplifier" - you could have some fun using this word to confuse the saleman.
I went there 20 odd years ago to purchase speakers that were on offer, by the time I got there they had sold out. However they went to the trouble of demonstrating just about every set of speakers in the shop :-)) I left after chosing a pair of Audio Solutions floor standing speakers after the assistant said " hey these sound great" and I thought so too, they were I think the cheapest on offer, they still sound great. Cheers.
I performed this sketch word for word , at my final drama exam at school in 85. Funny thing was, I got a U for Un grade-able. Not for my acting, but “Terrible writing, do not pursue a career in comedy!” Be careful which teachers you listen to. 🇬🇧
It seems I was very lucky. I bought a system from a shop in Liverpool in the 70s and they couldn't have been more helpful including loaning me an amplifier until the one I wanted came available and coming to my home to make sure it was all working and set up correctly. Earlier I had a similar experience when I was first starting out with better audio equipment from a shop in Wigan, much cheaper equipment but still the same quality service.
The best thing about hi end audio is that the vast majority of chaps in their 60s+ who spend huge money - on speaker cables for example - are actually losing their hearing.
Right. Not like the young people in cars with bass so thumping you can hear them coming from two blocks away. Oh, wait! I'm supposed to be deaf according to you.
Incredibly I'm seeing this for the first time since its original broadcast (first seen on a TV with only 3 channels). I would've been in my early 20s and remember discussing and laughing at the sketch at work next day with a female colleague. NTNON were our generation. Sadly what made it funny is that ***"s like RA's shop assistant really existed in specialist shops of all types at the time. I remember a very short sketch now without words with RA as a customer in a trendy clothes shop trying to get himself heard above the din of background piped music!
They made It look like they were all meeting In a Disco. Then the sales assistant comes over, and the camera pulls back, and they are all In a Clothes Boutique. It Is on here somewhere.
My friends and I did our own version of this sketch on stage at school. Instead of a bag on the head we did a custard pie in the face. The NTNON team actually visited the school and bugger my luck I wasn't in that day for some reason.
Gawd! I went to a really well knownl hi-fi chain in regional Australia and got this sort of treatment when trying to buy a speed camera/GPS for my truck. The woman was argumentative and had this way about her where she twisted the situation around to blame me for her behaviour. Thing is I knew more than she did.
Long time ago. Don't remember this sketch and only briefly into hi-ish fi. But I'm pretty sure every audio store was full of very polite enthusiasts. Still are with likes of Richer Sounds and Sevenoaks HiFi where I bought a tv a few years ago. The problem was Dixons and Currys - aaaagh! - sold junk and had the world's worst after sales. Their staff knew nothing about the techie stuff these guys pretend to speak. No surprise when they merged. Didn't everyone go there once and never again? Always astonished how they stayed in business and created PC World. Nowadays, they're a decent company with knowledgeable staff. Contrast Tandy (Radio Shack in US), off high street, looked tacky, sold own brand only. They were exemplary. Still have their version of a Sony Walkman cassette recorder (not just player). Used it for superb stereo recordings in remote parts of Russia not long after it opened up.
I went into the main Sevenoaks HiFi store in Sevenoaks and they were just delighted to see me walk around like a kid in a sweetshop. I said I wasn't buying anything but they were just enthusiastic about some of the gear as I was. Richer are the same and it's nice they've both adapted and survived the Amazon invasion.
I'd love to see an updated sketch were Mel gets his own back with full technical knowledge including gargantuan terms and urban slang of the lasted 2017 phone, tablet and power book releases. I can't make it funny but I bet they could!
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went into Tysons Newcastle shop - told him exactly what i wanted and he more or less said 'no you don't'. Bought exactly what i wanted elsewhere. Ruark MR1 active speakers - very good.
I still have a hi-fi stack, including cassette deck. The tuner is good until they turn off analogue signals. People who drooled over kit were the first to chop vinyl in for CDs, minidisc, ipods, et al. Got to feed the machine.
I still have my 1970's, turntable, my Walkman, my Sony PORTABLE CD player, my dual cassette deck and lots of CD players. BUT, very little music in mp3 format. 🎵
These sort of shops still do exist for various products though not in the number they used to. Theres a camera shop near me that still exists where your basically treated like scum unless your paying £800+ for lenses or other such ancillary pieces. Don't dare ask about low end products unless low end to you is the "bargain bin" trade in equipment that still costs 90% of original retail price! How the hell this shop still exist these days I don't know.
The reason this was so funny is that , for any-one who remembers those times and those shops , it was completely accurate.
+Hiram Hackenbacker Sadly that is indeed true, I was regularly insulted, and went on to manage a shop myself, and made sure I didn't pay homage to this sketch......although we did keep a range of shower caps......
Hiram Hackenbacker its still like that today
in my experience it's completely reversed nowadays: 16-18 year old (after that they're too expensive) nitwits that are of very little help; you're better off reading the product pages, reviews and forums on the internet.
Hiram Hackenbacker I get the sence they were staffed by "know it all twats" that liked to point out to their customers that they unlike themselves didn't know shit,....am i close ?
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I remember going to a computer games shop in my hometown where the staff were just like this. After one particularly humiliating experience where I left the shop in tears my father took me back down with one of his friends who just happened to be a freelance programmer who’s work was to be found in most of the leading games of the time and was well known in the industry. After about 5 mins in the shop with my dad’s friend completely humiliating them (one of them claimed he knew my dads mate the programmer until he told him that’s me and we have never met) I left with lots of free games and a kempston joystick (something to be prized at the time) Just shows it pays to be humble, helpful and respectful as there is always someone out there who will know more than you.
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Still got my Kempston joystick and speccy 48k somewhere.
I was once treated really badly in a grocery shop. I went back an other day, filled up a whole trolley with products, just one of each. Only small stuff. At the end there was a whole maintain on the trolley. I think I used an hour or something. And then I just parked the trolley in a corner and walked out. Imagine the work it must have been to sort that all out and put it back in the shelves 🤣🤣 If they would have stopped me I would have just said I forgot my wallet in the car. Can't go wrong 😉
@@YagiChanDan Oui je pense.
@@Dani-it5sy Yes, this Coffee culture has me baffled. Whilst waiting for an appointment I bit the bullet and went in a Costa and the menu was vast so I just asked for a plain Coffee, with milk. the cocky female assistant decided she was going to make me look a dork and head bobbing away, said "Do you mean a flat white" so I asked what that was and got a very sarcastic eye roll and, "oh, bless dont you know what a flat white is" to which I replied "do you know what Atomic Absorption is" and she stopped smirking and said "no" and I said, "That's why you're working in a coffee shop"
For hi-fi shop replace with mobile phone shop and you have today’s renditions!😂😂😂😂
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Exactly
My comment also.
or ANY tech shop run by children. I am 63...!!!!
Laughed like a drain as a kid but I’m now Mel.
The look of horror, fear and desperation on the staffs face when you used to walk in knowing exactly what you wanted was always great!
As an American, born in the mid 80s, I somehow find this skit hilarious. Rowan Atkinson's delivery and responses are priceless.
Look up Rowan as Gerald the gorilla
When I was a kid learning guitar, there was a guitar shop in town whose staff made you feel exactly the same.
Those blokes still do exist. Showing off by playing real fast and staring at you.
Oh mate, I was about to say the same... to this day you can't go to a guitar shop and try a guitar comfortably! Thing is... when you are a teenager you think they are too cool for you but with age you realise they are mostly 30-40yo losers who dress like it's California in 1978 but actually they still live with their mums in Leicestershire. Haha
I had the same experience when I was a kid too. It was like if they don't even care to sell their stuff...
NO STAIRWAY
Unfortunately, staff like that are not restricted to guitar shops
Its one of the few reasons I enjoy shopping online
Brilliant. Takes me back to school days when we’d replicate the scenes from this and The Young Ones during assembly and break times 😂😂
Tottenham Court Road in London used to be full of little shops exactly like this.
Me and me mate Daz age 15 used to recite this and all the other sketches word for word on our walk to school every morning. Great memories
Hold on! Who has a name Daz lol, he must've really cleaned up 😂
Compared to the people who actually used to work in audio stores back when there were audio stores, these two are polite and engaging. One reason why there used to be audio stores...
sadly they all moved to curry's and pc world's computer section.
Some years ago I went into a local HiFi shop here in Cambridge UK to buy a compete home cinema system with a budget of about £2200 in today's money. There were three members of staff, one dealing with another customer, the other two chatting and ignoring people. After trying to get their attention I walked out.
That HiFi shop is long gone.
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A lot like most motorcycle stores really.
Comet was the last one standing.
Takes me back to when I used to work as a Saturday lad in Rumbelows in the 80s. 😊
Rumbelows! Now there's a name from the past!
I went into an Audio shop in the mid 80’s having bought the magazines and done my research I knew exactly what I wanted. I ended up walking out and purchasing everything somewhere else because of the sales assistants snotty attitude.
I'm sure you had to suffer through CD, Minidisc and DVD too ;) Alas, I started with Betamax and Cassette, now I just download everything or stream it from illegal sites. Perfick.
Tottenham Court Road in London was a whole street of this in the 1980s. So accurate! 🤣🤣🤣
I worked round the corner in charlotte st with a brilliant hi-fi store below 1970s
I can remember Lasky's.
This is not a sketch, rather an expert documented account of how specialist hi-fi shops were in the 70 and 80s. I suspect for the few that are still around, these blokes are still the same.
Not much diff in 2022.Still the same vibe although more hipsterish but way better than the types portrayed by N.T.N.O.N boys.They saw themselves as guardians to the Covenant in many cases.
Anyone remember the Tandy stores.Full of spotty faces whizz kids selling audio and very early computer systems.? The terms they used were not in any dictionary back then!Listening to music was getting serious buisiness.
Yep total knobheads
Yes for anyone who remembers Richer Sounds whose staff would ring a bell and have sex if you also agreed to buy insurance on the item they had just sold you
@@ewaf88 LOL!!!!Yes.
Griff is brilliant in this sketch even though he doesn't have a single line!
Rowan Atkinson is the star of this though with his timing and how he emphases certain words like no one else could do.
I worked in a stereo shop in the early 70's, and thought that I had learned a lot of valuable knowledge from my manager. A year after I quit that job I got audio training that included quite a bit of physics, and learned what an absolutely clueless ass that manager was.
This is so true of some shops. I loved working in a hifi shop in the 1980’s and was entirely honest with customers which made me popular. Some assistants just wanted to sell the more expensive gear but rarely sold anything, whereas selling loads of good but reasonably priced items kept management happy.
This is rude ...
@@MrGigi-dz9cv of course it is that’s the point of the sketch but from personal experience arrogant assistants did work in the hifi and photography trades. I remember auditioning a turntable and took some of my records and the assistant said “I don’t want to listen to that bloody thing “. The amazing thing though is when I insisted on playing it the assistant was blown away and went out and bought it for himself.
I actually worked in the hifi trade during the 80's and even though this is pretty over the top it's still pretty accurate, we had so much fun..
The punters always have a laugh too - nothing funnier than a bottom rung shop assistant with airs
@@cahillgreg They are called 'essential workers ' these days.
Everyone has to start somewhere. I loved it & I loved helping customers unlike a lot of poorly trained staff today. But every now and again we would have fun with the self righteous.
Yes we did. Snow storms daily
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@@andyseager7597 They are not essential; they are dime a dozen, dispensable jumped up dogsbodies.
I'd love to see something like this today. Although it might be quite difficult, I don't think I've ever met anyone in PC world with any level of actual knowledge..
I'm unsure if you mean PC world the shop or Politically Correct world.
@@cocospops9351 wow what a clever response to this 7 year old comment...
@@clevelandbrown5709 Well I did just see it. I haven't spent 7 years thinking of a reply 😊
Scary that most of the audio stores from just seven years ago have gone. 2015 feels ancient when reading that comment.
@@cocospops9351 It would have been impressive if your comment was 7 years in progress.
Had a lovely Kenwood stack system with a linear tracking turntable and single slot cd player with a graphic equaliser with spectrum analyser. I only went in there for some speaker cable.
Kenwood are great. I've had my Kenwood system for 30 years and it still works a treat.
Back in the 80s worked in a Hi-Fi shop and this sketch just summed things up perfectly. We had a mixture of customers who knew nothing, to those that thought they knew it all. This is priceless!
One of my favourite NTNOC News sketches.
Few will have heard of the provincial journalist Peter Rhodes, but many years ago he came up with a truly brilliant concept: The Sales Prevention Manager. This clip sums up the arrogant, patronising condescension shown by so many sales assistants back then towards those who ultimately paid their salaries, and which must indeed have prevented many sales. A much better ending though would have been for Mel Smith to somehow electrocute those sneering tossers with their own equipment.
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This sketch was written by Andrew Marshall, who created 2 Point 4 Children, and David Renwick, famous for One Foot In The Grave. It was originally in their Radio 4 show, The Burkiss Way.
The monthly magazine, The Gramophone, first published in 1923, is still thriving!
A friend bought a HiFi from a non-specialist shop; he asked the salesman "What is the frequency response of the speakers?" Answer "Not certain but I'm sure it will be all you need". Friend -"What about the power output?" Answer "All the power you need". Friend-"What is the figure for total harmonic distortion?" Answer "All the distortion you want" Exit friend, wallet intact.
In a funny kind of way the guy selling the kit was probably pretty on the money.
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'Do you want woofers and tweeters with it?' And 'Do you want a bag on your head?' have stuck with me ever since I first saw this sketch when it was first broadcast. The way Rowan Atkinson says it, still makes me laugh!
Bags = the real deal if OLDschool audiophile! The BASS gets so much..."#%"/(¤I#/
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Absolute classic! Spot on! Loved this show!👍👍👍👍
Most Hi-Fi shops in Leicester were exactly like this, fortunately most of them are now shut.
ADZ - And hopefully their former staff are now eating scraps from food banks.
They were vile to my mate and I in those years, but as young blokes - we took took the crap...unlike now -
Trying to buy a GRAM-O-PHONE were we, grandad?
Gutless Spigot Calling my disabled mate a super moron is pretty vile in my opinion
Can you remember a record shop in Leicester called 5HQ?
I remember watching this back in the day, it's still FAF
I'm in tears.
Years ago I went to a hifi show in Perth
There was a demo with sound of breaking glass . The salesman was pretending to throw glases. Quite impressive : (.
I went to another room doing a speaker demo. I said they sound like a 3 way.
Salesman asked how could I tell . I told him I could hear 2 dips in response at crossover points. His response was impossible, nobody can hear the difference in any of this stuff.
Note ... I had already read the review of the particular speaker : )
The shop expert is still alive and well, music shops mainly, but a garden tool and forestry store told me one of the chainsaws in my garage had never existed in any form, bless ‘em.
I like the way I've lived long enough to see this sketch go from being an accurate depiction of the contemporary "hi-fi"-buying experience, to being ironically "grandad"-ish itself when digital audio replaced vinyl, and now back round to relevance again with the return of vinyl.
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Vinyl never really went away. It just became more niche for a while.
@@isayoldchap1 true that
My thoughts exactly. Somehow, this is how I felt when I was reading about vinyl equipment for the first time in audiophile's blogs and asking around in some local Audio stores (I'm a 90's gal). That's why I find this sketch so funny because it's relevancy is coming back nowadays with the return of the vinyl IMO.
A classic clip.
Used to watch the not the 9 oclock news all the time back then.
Simply awesome ... they were amazing. Brings tears to the eyes still.
I would have liked to have seen the "twist" version where the old guy was playing with them, and he says "yes the speakers better have good woofers due to the superior bass response of my 78's" 🙂
"GRA-MO-PHONE ?! >_>" LOL, that part gets me every time :)))
Thirty years later and I'm still in love with Griff Rhys Jones and too scared to buy an iPod lol !!
iPod! Ahahahah, go check a museum ma'm, most of us stream on our phones nowadays!
@@yellowfolder Stream? Is that a form of swimming?
In all seriousness my Ipod of many years broke last year, went and bought another off Ebay, youngsters these days, dont know they're born
@@yellowfolder you seem to like throwing your money completely down the drain then don't you 😂😂😂😂
I went in to one of these stores in 1982. I can't say the experience was enjoyable. After some to-ing and fro-ing, I completely lost it. My vision went red, and I sort of blacked out after hitting the cashier with a subwoofer enclosure. Anyway, when I woke up, I was in a cell in the local nick. The coppers told me I'd stoved the cashier's head in, and partially eaten a Paramedic who'd come to help after the assistant made a 999 call. I got 5 years. When I eventually got out, I went back to the same shop. As soon as the cashier got slightly uppity, I fixed him with the death stare I'd learned in the slammer which I'd used to scare Roger the Wierdo off whenever he got too close. Then the cashier recognised me from before, and began gibbering uncontrollably. No problems. I got the goddamn turntable. I'm now listening to Rick Astley's "never gonna give you up" on repeat. Bliss.
How entirely believable.
@@justincoleman3805 ...you think a crazy yarn like that is made up?
Who’s Rick Ashley
@@JAYMES2568 I'm not falling for that.
@@JAYMES2568 My mate used to say things like that in the early 80s. Who's George Mitchell?
First time I've saw that scetch, still hilarious to this day!!
Me too. For an 70's/80s kid, this is spot on
This reminds me of my grandchildren every time I put on a LP . They are flabbergasted …….
Is it a 78
Put the dictionary away grandad
Vinyl rocks. It's something about having a physical medium and seeing the disk spin. I find that I pay more attention to the actual music and actually listen to full albums (as many albums were intended to) when using my turntable. When listening to Spotify I usually skip ahead after 30 seconds and very rarely play a full album to it's. So despite having virtually all music ever at my finger tips I actually listen to less music and get less satisfaction from it when using streaming services. That's why LPs rock! Vinyl does however not sound better than digital as some (severly) misinformed audiophiles believe. When it comes to sound quality digital wins by a large margine (even compressed lossy streamed files). But the total experience is still better and more fulfilling with vinyl and a nice record deck. Oh and btw, it's actually your grand kids who's not keeping up with the curve. Vinyl has been ultra hip since atleast 10 years and when you walk in to a record shop it's cramped with young hipster kids talking about limited pressings, 7" singles on colored vinyl and what have you. CD's are mostly obsolete though.
I call them gramophone records when I am with the children because they find that amusing.
My Decca radiogram had 33, 45, 78 and 16rpm options.
"What will I do with my old 78s?" Seems a legit question to me!
Bin 'em, it'll be old fashioned crappy music anyway
I still have around 2000 78 records and frequently play them.
@@Foebane72 Old fashioned crap with Mozart, Bach and Beethoven. Not modern quality like Miley Cyrus right?
Most of what we used to call music centres had a 78 speed anyway. As kids we used to play our 45’s at that speed and find it highly amusing. Who remembers loving a new single so much, they played it with the arm back 🤣
@@stoolpigeon4285 My thoughts too!
I've been into a computer store like this. I came from an engineering background and learnt programming, used to teach programming, and kept up with computer stuff for years until other things took my interest. A few years ago I was looking to upgrade my PC so went shopping. The place had two desktops with similar specs except for the CPU, where Intel and AMD had different characteristics that were new to me. I forget the details now but lets say one had Multi-Whatsits and the other had Dedicated Whatsits. I asked the guy how they differed. He went into smartarse mode and said, "Well, one has Multi-Whatsits and the other has Dedicated Whatsits" and stood there looking smug. I said, "Tell your boss I went elsewhere" and walked out.
good for you. do you feel better for getting that off your chest and wasting my twenty seconds to read your riveting tale?
@@cc8530 Reading it just made me want wotsits.
@@matthewwakeham2206 dedicated or multi?
Interesting
You should have asked for the boss and told him to his face. Took his name and then gone elsewhere. Then wrote to the MD of the company attaching the receipt from the other supplier. They would have said so what, it is just another one of the companies in our group.
Absolutely nailed it. As audio lounges/sales locations disappeared they were like that in every country. What a hoot.
I remember watching this at the time. Hilarious.
When I was a kid my mother had one of those box record players and it had a 78 speed setting, we used to have great fun with it.
Gosh remember watching this on the old tube
26"color TV 📺 1980's😆.
Best days of my life! ♥️
26" ? Dang you must have been rich! We had a 21" and it felt huge to us!
@@xenorac
If only. We spent £400 on a Grundig TV 📺 😉!
Agreed in those days, TV were relatively "big".
Now 55" is the norm 😆
But houses 🏡 were cheap at £25K for a 3 bedroom in 1978!
Homes have got smaller, TVs have got bigger!
@@ksumar I played on a ZX Spectrum back in those days on a 14" Portable BW TV! But yeah, things have changed so so much now!
@@xenorac
Ah yes I remember that basic programing
10
20
30
Citizen band radio 📻 was popular also! And VHS video 📼 was a luxury!
Being born in 93 meant the biggest colour TV in my house for at least the first decade and a half of my life was roughly the same size (possibly a little smaller) and still relying on a CRT. We didn't upgrade to HD until around 2009ish, or maybe a little bit earlier. The only big difference was the PS2 taking up space near the TV and the better but not significantly better screen resolution, honestly screen resolution never really meant much to me until HD came along and made me feel like I'd been launched into the far future. I'll give CRT TVs this over HD TVs, it sure was nice being able to clear up any static just by jumping on the floor.
A really good friend of mine had an experience just like this in the mobile phone shop. Just the same.
Yes if you're over 60 and go into a mobile phone shop and start asking questions get ready for lots of eye rolling from the salesperson (at least that's been my experience)
Did you actually witness that? Or are you passing on his tale of the event as though it is, of course, truth?
The turntable I use today predates this sketch
Like how Griff is just there for the laughs!
And the sketch is followed by a musical interlude called Gob On You.
Looking back on their first series I notice how similar the framework of the sketches are to Python.
I rang a hifi shop which specialised in Wharfedale equipment, when my Wharfedale tv went on the blink. He told me repeatedly I didnt have a Wharfedale tv, but as I have the ability to read, I kept telling him I did . But it went nowhere and I got it fixed by an independent for a few quid in the end.
Hah, you daresn't mention Wharfedale DVD players! 🤣
At least these two were having a laugh. Most audio stores I remember were full of 'serious' guys who came over seriously offended, irritated and insulted if you just gently asked a couple of basic questions.
That's because they only had a very basic understanding of what they were selling, themselves, and they were terrified that if you asked too many questions they'd be found out!
That's me now buying a new phone or laptop! "So, what kind of RAM do you want?"
"Errrrrr......do I need any?"
no clues :)))
I was in a Liverpool hi-fi shop in the early eighties when the manager told a customer to leave because he said he didn’t like the look of an amplifier 😂
I luv'd this show....! :-) gr8.
Glad I've found this, I worked at Currys at the time,
tho' we weren't like this, I knew plenty that were!
My grand father had one of the first electric grampohones
And he had one record
Marty Robbins - The Gunslinger
I used to listen to it everytime I went there.
Down in El Paso
Then my father bought a windup gramaphone - I suppose that was all he could afford.
We had one single - Lord Rockingham's 11 - Hootsmon!
I used to help out in a model shop back in the mid 70s. We were pretty much as smug and offensive. Admittedly I was only around 14/15 but the older guys in the shop loved to regard new customers as idiots, despite the fact that is was them who, well, worked in a toy shop.
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This is me trying to buy a cup of coffee - not Americano, cappuccino, latte, mocha or frappuccino - I just want a cup of coffee. Seems a little too much to ask these days.
Grandad!!! 😂
Well just make sure you won't be latte then or maybe it's just too mocha for you 😂😂
Say you want a black coffee or a white coffee and they'll get you an americano. Or just order an americano as it's the 2020s and every cafe has been selling the same range of drinks for at least 30yrs now and frankly I'm pretty sure you've learned by now.
OMG i quote this sketch still - I remember when it new, it had me in tears
Richer Sounds was a welcome surprise, never patronising the buyer. Still a great brand
Not the 9 o’ clock news a fantastic comedy skit show ….. with great comedians at the start of their careers, Atkinson, Smith, Rhys-Jones and Stephenson…..love this and Alas Smith & Jones.
I actually had a record player when I was a kid that had 78 speed, even though records that ran at that speed had not been made for decades. Anyway, I always found it fun to play my 33⅓ records at 78 speed... Made all performers sound like Alvin and the Chipmonks...
I was laughing when this first was on the telly as I was around 15 years old. Now that poor bloke is me going into any ruddy tech shop.
I take my hat off to you Sir because you have just described me at 60 and feeling every bit of it 😂( hate technology shit)
The Best Sketch on the Show. Brilliant.
“30? So you know all about it now?” 😆
Absolute comedy genius , i remember this when it came out 🤔😀
Brilliant from Rowan Atkinson.
10 Print "Rumbelows is rubbish!"
20 GOTO 10
Me and my brother leave the store, after having also switched a hifi off and turned the volume all the way up. Ahh those were the days.
I used to do similar in my local Boots :) They had a BBC Micro on display, fixed into a unit where the power button was inaccessible, and I had worked out one line of code that would make the computer wait 15 seconds for me to get away from it, then emit a piercing screech while strobing the screen horribly ... and, to make it worse, I used to know the "FX" code to disable the Escape key so they had to power down the whole display to stop it. Fun times :)
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Techmoan brought me here
Which video was this in ?.
"How many Watts exactly?" I still think of this sketch some 40 years later when I'm in a guitar shop looking at amps.
Now "amps" is an ambiguous word. Is it short for "Ampere" (measure of electric current) or "amplifier" - you could have some fun using this word to confuse the saleman.
Can’t believe I’m saying this but I could actually see Rowan Atkinson playing Delboy.
Excellent!
I remember when I went to buy my midi hifi system in 1986, I actually did research so I knew what I was talking about..otherwise I'd get this crap lol
Exactly the same today going into a phone shop
The way Rowan lifts his chin when Mel says "medium." 😂
Thank God Richer Sounds came along and brought decency to the game.
I went there 20 odd years ago to purchase speakers that were on offer, by the time I got there they had sold out. However they went to the trouble of demonstrating just about every set of speakers in the shop :-)) I left after chosing a pair of Audio Solutions floor standing speakers after the assistant said " hey these sound great" and I thought so too, they were I think the cheapest on offer, they still sound great. Cheers.
Rowan Atkinson can do just about anything except a cockney accent. He sound Australian - still very funny though.
This programme set the stage for many alternative comedy sketch shows for decades to come. Ludicrous, bizarre, but incredibly funny.
Griff Rhys Jones is brilliant in this even though he says nothing.
Only for the occasional too hard laughing at his mate's remarks...😅😅
I performed this sketch word for word , at my final drama exam at school in 85.
Funny thing was, I got a U for Un grade-able. Not for my acting, but “Terrible writing, do not pursue a career in comedy!”
Be careful which teachers you listen to. 🇬🇧
It seems I was very lucky. I bought a system from a shop in Liverpool in the 70s and they couldn't have been more helpful including loaning me an amplifier until the one I wanted came available and coming to my home to make sure it was all working and set up correctly. Earlier I had a similar experience when I was first starting out with better audio equipment from a shop in Wigan, much cheaper equipment but still the same quality service.
Those were the days when hummer was really funny. I just laughed big time.
30 years and a plastic lid! Priceless.
The best thing about hi end audio is that the vast majority of chaps in their 60s+ who spend huge money - on speaker cables for example - are actually losing their hearing.
Right. Not like the young people in cars with bass so thumping you can hear them coming from two blocks away. Oh, wait! I'm supposed to be deaf according to you.
@@MrPlanx DefJam pal, See Rick Rubin
Pardon 👴
Incredibly I'm seeing this for the first time since its original broadcast (first seen on a TV with only 3 channels). I would've been in my early 20s and remember discussing and laughing at the sketch at work next day with a female colleague. NTNON were our generation. Sadly what made it funny is that ***"s like RA's shop assistant really existed in specialist shops of all types at the time. I remember a very short sketch now without words with RA as a customer in a trendy clothes shop trying to get himself heard above the din of background piped music!
They made It look like they were all meeting In a Disco. Then the sales assistant comes over, and the camera pulls back, and they are all In a Clothes Boutique. It Is on here somewhere.
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My friends and I did our own version of this sketch on stage at school. Instead of a bag on the head we did a custard pie in the face. The NTNON team actually visited the school and bugger my luck I wasn't in that day for some reason.
Loads of computer part shops still like this. I'm reasonably savvy yet I often feel humiliated asking for things.
This is basically a development of a quick chat sketch that Flanders and Swann did years before.
Gawd! I went to a really well knownl hi-fi chain in regional Australia and got this sort of treatment when trying to buy a speed camera/GPS for my truck.
The woman was argumentative and had this way about her where she twisted the situation around to blame me for her behaviour.
Thing is I knew more than she did.
Long time ago. Don't remember this sketch and only briefly into hi-ish fi. But I'm pretty sure every audio store was full of very polite enthusiasts. Still are with likes of Richer Sounds and Sevenoaks HiFi where I bought a tv a few years ago.
The problem was Dixons and Currys - aaaagh! - sold junk and had the world's worst after sales. Their staff knew nothing about the techie stuff these guys pretend to speak. No surprise when they merged. Didn't everyone go there once and never again? Always astonished how they stayed in business and created PC World. Nowadays, they're a decent company with knowledgeable staff.
Contrast Tandy (Radio Shack in US), off high street, looked tacky, sold own brand only. They were exemplary. Still have their version of a Sony Walkman cassette recorder (not just player). Used it for superb stereo recordings in remote parts of Russia not long after it opened up.
I went into the main Sevenoaks HiFi store in Sevenoaks and they were just delighted to see me walk around like a kid in a sweetshop. I said I wasn't buying anything but they were just enthusiastic about some of the gear as I was. Richer are the same and it's nice they've both adapted and survived the Amazon invasion.
I'd love to see an updated sketch were Mel gets his own back with full technical knowledge including gargantuan terms and urban slang of the lasted 2017 phone, tablet and power book releases. I can't make it funny but I bet they could!
Unfortunately he died on 19 July 2013 so it would have to be someone else if this sketch was updated today.
They are called Macbooks now, (grandpa)!
2017. That's ancient.
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went into Tysons Newcastle shop - told him exactly what i wanted and he more or less said 'no you don't'. Bought exactly what i wanted elsewhere. Ruark MR1 active speakers - very good.
Well done , Audio T will treat you well...
Smart move you didn't had to buy all the snake cables , pre amps and power amps + DAC converter etc. Hated those guys made you feel very poor
Colin, you shouldn’t have bought those Ruark speakers- what a diabolical mistake…
@@davidbillyard6629 err.. no, they're amazing thanks
@@colinhodgson3908 cheap tat lol
I still have a hi-fi stack, including cassette deck. The tuner is good until they turn off analogue signals. People who drooled over kit were the first to chop vinyl in for CDs, minidisc, ipods, et al. Got to feed the machine.
I still have my 1970's, turntable, my Walkman, my Sony PORTABLE CD player, my dual cassette deck and lots of CD players. BUT, very little music in mp3 format. 🎵
Well at least the staff here actually knew what they were supposed to be selling, and even something about it. I never expect even this today.
Ironically most teen-agers wouldn't understand those terms now
Rowan Atkinson is brilliant here. Early evidence of the man’s talent.
Good thing he didn't mention his vast collection of 8 tracks.
These sort of shops still do exist for various products though not in the number they used to.
Theres a camera shop near me that still exists where your basically treated like scum unless your paying £800+ for lenses or other such ancillary pieces.
Don't dare ask about low end products unless low end to you is the "bargain bin" trade in equipment that still costs 90% of original retail price!
How the hell this shop still exist these days I don't know.
It's probably just a front for money laundering...🤔