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i just came back from watch it . it was awesome and i wasn't a real big spider-man fan but because of tom holland he won me over. michael keaton was great as vulture. i love ned, michelle, and liz it was a awesome movie.
When you guys discussed the whole thing about a 5 movie arc for Peter Parker, didn't Marvel/Sony/Feige/whoever said it mean the 5 movies are Civil War, Homecoming, Avengers 3 & 4, Homecoming Sequel?
Hyper RPG Just saw it for a second time tonight and the main thing that sticks with me is the MJ reveal. It looks like they're going for a complete reversal of the traditional Peter/MJ relationship. It's been a while since I've read any Spider-Man but MJ was always Peter's ultimate dream girl and the quintessential teenage crush. This time around I picked up on a few things I didn't notice on the first watch, it looks as though MJ has a secret crush on Peter. The subtle way she looks at him near the end when she asks him what he's hiding and how she tells the decathlon group all the things he's quite and then adds "not that I'm obsessed with him or anything". I'm very curious to see how they work this in the sequels. And that is one thing I am very much looking forward to, more of this Spider-Man. I absolutely loved the feel of this movie. I felt like I was watching this generation's version of The Breakfast Club that just so happened to have Spider-Man in it.
Yeah when Hector was talking about how this movie lacked the emotion of Amazing SpiderMan 2, I thought of this scene. That was so freaking intense. Tom Holland sold it, and the director really made you feel the claustrophobia and the suffocation of the situation. So freaking good.
Moonie iLLmatic That was the first time I actually felt bad for Peter. Tobey Maguire and Andrew Garfield couldn't even make me feel that way when they had their emotional scenes.
That was one of the best scenes I've seen in a comic book movie. Everything about how the scene was framed was perfect and you can really feel the tension of peter the whole time. Holland and Keaton really play well off each other and is an interesting take on the whole dad intimidating his daughter's date. I hadn't been that unsettled by a comic book villain scene since the joker's "you wanna know how I got these scars" in the dark knight.
I disagree with the notion that Spider-Man Homecoming didn't have stakes and an emotional core. The emotional core is Peter Parker. Also The Vulture was frightening and Peter was completely out of his depths and it showed throughout the film.
This is the most emotional story of Spiderman that ever witness and I believe you guys were only emotional for those other Spiderman movies because you were kids back then... There are scenes in this Spiderman movie that delivers the most impact of genuine emotion because he seem to be a very vulnerable child that the others are not... Its like watching those old Batman episodes with the cliffhanger when a Batman and Robin is tight to a table and a huge buzz saw is about to saw them in half which as a kid watching it you're afraid for them but as an adult you just shake your head and say they will escape some how.
@@giovanniluke3882 @Giovanni Luke Yes I did in the theater and enjoyed it but I was an adult at the time and it didn't move me as emotionally as Homecoming. I'm a movie buff and have watched a lot of foreign films that are more emotional because they do more character building than Hollywood's movies so it's rare for me to be emotional for an American movie but I was for Homecoming.
okay okay OKAy it's Peter's movie, but can we talk about Tony's arc? This is a crazy growth film for him, I think. He's the father figure now that he so dreaded before, and he LOVES Peter, you can tell when Peter accuses him of not being there and he steps out of the suit. During the conflict after the ferry scene? CHILLS. "I wanted you to be better." Tony sees the potential in Peter to be just like him, operating in the suit, but wants him to embrace the responsibility that comes with powers faster than Tony learned how to. "If you're nothing without the suit" I think is this generation's "With great power..." because it's so central to Peter's character growth and kind of becomes his mantra. And reuniting with Pepper?? Amazing amazing amazing. It broke my heart that he was hurting so much in Civil War, because he was experiencing not one heartbreak but two, with Pep and with the team. And now he gets redemption by moving back in with his team, getting engaged with Pepper, and having a healthy father/son relationship with Peter?? My precious son deserves all the best things in the world, and I'm glad they're giving them to him, finally.
MeiLinEakin Reuniting Pepper was a Contract Issue & they should ditch it because Paltrow is a hack fraud selling Bullshit Healing Stickers and Jade Vaginal Eggs lmao
And in the end he says "sorry I took your suit", you know like how some fathers when they punish/ground their sons and they really didn't want to do it but it's for their own good. I really felt that emotion from him.
I disagree about "if you're nothing without the suit" being this generations "with great power..". Peter already learned "with great power comes great responsibility" when Ben died. He makes that clear in Civil War with the line "when you can do the things I can.. but don't, and then the bad things happen...they happen because of you." "If you're nothing without the suit..." is just part of his journey, and was the mantra for this particular chapter in Peter's life. The 'Becoming Spider-Man' chapter. We've seen the classic origin story, but this was the origin story for becoming a better, more experienced hero. This was the first Spidey movie to show Peter messing up. Every other movie just has him instantly become a hero, constantly saving people and making it look easy. Peter gets his ass kicked here and it makes sense. He has no real training. But with experiencing more each day, he gets better and improves.
They kinda have this great son/dad dynamic because Peter responds to him even though he's kinda way too strict. You can easily say Tony's self doubt justified because he DOES give Pete a hard time and you can easily imagine an own child who'd feel unloved receiving all of this. And yet it does NOT go that way with Peter, it kind of works, so it's easy to imagine that Tony might think, I was worried about my flaws and yet, this works. So maybe with my own son, it has a chance to work.
the part where Peter had a building fall over him and when he was screaming "SOMEBODY HELP ME! I CAN'T BREATHE!" it hit me that he really is a kid and he was about to cry and that was a good scene as it made me genuinely worried for him... and the fact that no one came to help him made it much better...
about what you guys said about him refusing the avengers offer what I realized is that, what vulture said to spidey stuck. people like stark up top do not really give a shit about people like them on the bottom. even stark said himself, such crimes are too petty for the avengers pay grade. so spiderman wisdomly choosing to look after his own people, his friends and family was such a good character development for peter it makes the narrative say that idolizing these heroes is good but there are choices they make that are consequential. peter as a naive kid, little by little learns a bit more and hopefully becomes mature enough to handle his own problems along with the weight of the world
I don't say this to just anyone, but goddamn do I miss you guys, it's unfortunate that we don't get to see you guys together anymore but we understand you are all focusing on your own career growth but just wanted to show some love guys....I've been waiting for this review and this brightened up my weekend to get it from the three of you
I love the part where tony is telling peter off and he's just like "This is the adult talking", that scene gave me chills, tony acted like a father figure for peter in this movie, it was great.
George, no.... he will NEVER be an Avenger and will NEVER get the Iron Spider-Man suit. It is a VERY impactful decision to make. He has NO CHOICE, but to be involved in Infinity War. That's an all hands on deck kind of situation. Once in a lifetime.
I really like how they played the MJ card. I feel like they are saying, this isn't the spider-man from the comics. This is the spider-man in the marvel cinematic universe. Things are different, BUT, we are not going to forget the history. MJ is a really important character to Peter, so there will be an MJ in the cinematic universe. Just like Aunt May isn't old, Flash isn't a "jock" bully, but is still a bully. Tony Stark is playing more of the support system, and not the Fantastic Four, which is where he went for help in the comics. I'm loving it. I know it's hard for many of us hardcore, old, spidey fans to come to the conclusion this universe is different LOL. Great review guys! As far as having Karen AI. I loved it, and I think Kevin Smith said it best. In the comics, Peter/Spidey has a lot of thought bubbles and you see his thoughts. He talks to himself in his head, like we all do. But having Karen gives him someone to talk to, giving us those moment of what is in his mind. I think it works well.
Flame of Udun I think they should co-exist for a movie but pull a surprise move and have Peter Parker die, it would tragic and a huge moment in the MCU. But they should only do that in 4 or 5.
I found it hilarious how when Tony and Pepper decided to get engaged, they decided to do it as a contingency because Spidey's supposedly planned press intro as an Avenger fell through. They needed to brainstorm what to do with all the reporters outside and Tony decided to bring out the ring and Pepper was like, "Oh, we're doing that now? Hold on a sec." as part of a corporate spiel.
What's exciting is that the new MJ is gonna have a brain which was sadly lacking in prior movies. It will bring a level of interaction between holland and her in the future movies that prior ones were quite lacking..
Making it smaller in scale and personal made the movie stand out . It's refreshing to see a movie not about the world ending and just about characters and real motivation .
I really loved Zendaya's character, and if she's MJ moving forward, that'd be a great and different take from the kind of beauty queen character we've always gotten in the past.
This is by far my favorite Spider-Man movie and has the potential to be the best iteration. And to me that is ok because I'm excited for the build up rather than stakes being so high in one film. Like you guys I love that the villain wasn't EVIL, but instead he was flawed in a way that made him relatable and sympathetic. With that said I want to say that's what I loved about this movie, the fact that relatively everything from The Vulture to Ned was relatable. I guess it's because of how grounded it was, and I loved how Peter contrasted from Tony when he was offered to be an Avenger. Loved this movie. I love watching these reviews and reactions. See ya next time!
I loved this movie, my favourite thing about the Spider Man comics is Peter interacting with his friends and how he deals with his friends and being Spider Man and this what this movie did and that is why it my favourite Spider Man movie.
I think they hit the emotional part very well with Peter trapped in the remains of the building that falls apart during his final encounter with Vulture. Man, I could really feel the stress of him couldn't get out from there, for a second there I was like running out of breathe
Zendaya is MJ! WOOOOOOOO! God, that made me so happy. I've also never sat in a theater and had a TWIST happen to me. Yet this movie did it w/ Liz and her father. I legitimately gasped.
@Alpha bet Michelle Jones; but yea i like that creative decision. It allows the mceu to have its cake and eat it too. Peter had a romantic connection with a michelle in the comics and yet we also know that his most iconic partner has been mary jane so rather than retread old territory, they gave us something new while winking at something nostalgic. Mary jane and Gwen Stacey (my favorite) have had their chance to shine as Peter's main love interests on the big screen; It's now Michelle's turn while barring the iconic title of "MJ"
+xShineyxDiverx He is not trying to evade anything, she's not "THE character", she's just A character who is given the same initials as some lame "wink" towards the audience. That's like saying Joseph Gordon-Levitt's character in The Dark Knight Rises was Dick Grayson just because his first name was Robin. I have no problem with Zendaya's casting, I don't like what they did because she could've either been an original character, or the actual Mary Jane Watson character, and yet she's neither? She plays a new character who has nothing to do with Mary Jane, doesn't act like her, doesn't even have the same name, yet "her friends call her MJ"? It's beyond stupid, why the need to overcomplicate matters? This is even worse than The Mandarin debacle. The worst part is that way they undercut both their original character Michelle, as well as the actual Mary Jane Watson character.
I aint really high on this channel, but I just LOVE it when you guys are reviewing a superhero movie. Loved the movie, and I think it's one of the best movies in the MCU so far. I miss your days on Superhero news.
Definitely my favourite Spider-Man movie! Will be seeing it again to make sure I didn't miss anything. I was surprised you guys didn't touch on the appearance of Pepper. We haven't seen her in 4 years since Iron Man 3 and Civil War gave a bit of uncertainty to the relationship between her and Tony. She got a big applause at the screening I attended. Overall I didn't really have any issues with it but i'm super excited to see what they'll do with Vulture.
I think they did show spider sense in a really subtle way, sort of like Adam talked about in Civil War. The scene when Peter is eating on the fire escape leaving a voicemail for Happy. Peter drops his food and the camera moves really fast to follow the food leaving Peter out of frame. It then reveals he caught the falling food and is standing on the side of the fire escape and he looks at himself and says "woah" as if he is surprised about where he is or what he is doing. Maybe my interpretation of spider sense is wrong, but I think in this moment of the movie his body reacted intuitively and with such speed that Peter wasn't completely aware of himself. This hyper instinctive action is what I think of as spidey-sense.
the only thing that has not seen addressed yet in any reviews so far is tony stark sold the avengers tower to someone. who did he sell it to maybe oscorp since there is no oscorp building in NYC yet.
I think you guys are confusing the 5-film deal w/Spider-Man. It's not 5 solo films -it's Civil War, Homecoming, Infinity War, Avengers 4 & the Homecoming sequel. That takes Peter Parker to the beginning of Phase 4 in 2019. No way is Sony/Marvel killing off Peter 2 years from now -especially when he will only be a Junior in High School in the sequel.
Aaron Davis is the brother of Miles Morales's father, guys! Miles's mother is Puerto Rican, his father is African American! Another thing. They don't need to kill off Peter to bring in Miles. What if they did a Spider-Man movie with BOTH of them as Spider-Man? A team-up of sorts? There is an animated series where Peter and Miles meet each other and Spider-Gwen.
Great review guys. Everything was spot on. Personally I loved that there was so much tech in the suit because it helped shape the character. Here Peter is dressed in a multibillion dollar suit with what looks like even more tech options than we've seen in an onscreen Iron Man suit and he doesn't care. Yeah he thinks they're cool because what kid wouldn't but he's a simple hero. He asked for the regular web options and he didn't care for all of the fancy stuff when it came to actually using them (even though he loved the fact that they existed). He came across as the kind of hero who would use the bare minimum amount of tech to get things done and you saw that when he fought in his big fight scene. And I like the idea of the AI because 1) of course Tony would build a suit with an AI lol he couldn't help himself. 2) it was nice to have someone for the character to play off of in a scene where it would have just been him alone passing time. Or when he's all by himself with only one friend to his name. Plus in the comics he has little panels and thought bubbles and whatnot to show his train of thought, but the equivalent of that here was him talking to Karen instead of rambling to himself in the scene which would have eventually gotten weird. It was so entertaining to watch the AI become a character (especially now that there's no more Jarvis & Tony and Friday doesn't have the same spark). Lastly I feel like it made sense to have the parachute feature. Tony clearly feels responsible for Peter, particularly in the crime fighting arena, and I absolutely buy that he would add a feature like that simply because he took it upon himself to outfit a child whose power keeps him airborne and reliant on buildings and tall structures. The whole problem Peter was having was feeling like he was being treated like a child and it was because that was exactly what was happening in his relationship with Tony. Everything about the suit was childfriendly from the Training Wheels settings to the baby monitor features and the fact that the naming of these things (plus Tony's insisting that he be a small time hero) showed how Tony viewed him. A lot of these things don't match up with the comics but they're not meant to. The MCU isn't the comics and they spend a lot of time trying to make us see that.
Hector; the issue is that in "The Avengers", the computer screens on the Helicarrier make it clear it's 2012. It's reinforced in "Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D." as well. Fury says "Earth had a visitor last year" (Thor) placing _Thor_ in 2011. Except Fury's Big Week comic places _Iron Man 2_ and _The Incredible Hulk_ in the same week, making them 2011 as well. Since _Iron Man_ is six months prior to _Iron Man 2_, it would be around 2010. The issue in _Civil War_ was that the two writers believed that _Iron Man 1_ took place in 2008, the same year it came out in. So they had Vision saying "Since the eight years that Mr. Stark announced himself as Iron Man...." placing _Civil War_ in 2016. Thaddeus Ross also said "These past *four* years you've operated with unlimited power and no supervision". (placing _The Avengers_ in 2012 yet again). So for some reason, _Spider-Man: Homecoming_ writers had their movie state eight years instead of four years and it just pulls an _X-Men_ move where you mess up the whole timeline. I expect this from FOX, not Disney/Marvel.
It is SO GOOD to see THE Superhero News trinity back again. I LOVED this movie! Easily the best Spider-Man movie in 13 years. Homecoming was incredible. PLEASE.... let the Homecoming sequel be as good. Honestly, this film is not as good as the first two Sam Raimi Spider-Man films, but I liked it way more than the last 3 Spider-Man films. Still, great fucking movie!
*Aside from your awesome review* Don't you think it be perfect if the Fantastic Four joined the MCU. Mr. Fantastic could be the super genius that challenges Tony Stark. The Thing can have an epic fight scene with the Hulk. Human Torch can be that one cocky friend to Spider-Man. Invisible Girl can break so much more ground for women in the MCU. Also their villians are too perfect, Doom, Galactus , Silver Surfer kinda. They all fit perfect like a missing puzzle in a better way than the X-Men in my opinion (although it would be awesome if they joined too).
I can't decide whether my favorite scene is when Peter is stuck under the rubble or in the car with the vulture! I will say, with no shame, I totally cried a tear or two when he says "COME ON SPIDER-MAN!". I was dying to see your guy's review on it and can't wait to see more in the future! (ps I totally freaked out when he said "I gotta nephew" hope that means Miles is coming!)
I saw the movie a couple of days ago and I just realised that Aunt May finding out at the end could be their gateway into telling some of the origin story in the sequel, because he'll have to explain to May the when, how and why he's Spider-Man.
We Spiderman can move and bend his body in unnatural ways, crooks and villains mention this a lot in his early years as Spidey. I except some of the cgi movements for that purpose alone.
Her MJ isn't Mary Jane. They may grow to share similar traits, but the character is different and I like it. I don't wanna see another model, this character could have more depth and growth. I wanna see where it goes. Really enjoyed the movie. Might be my favorite spiderman flick. My favorite growing up. It's really good for a this year, day and age. I kinda liked Flash too.
this wasn't always the case but I think I prefer Spiderman to Spiderman 2. Homecoming comes 2nd. then Spiderman 2. I'd give Homecoming a 9.0 the F/X in the action especially during the plane heist scene coulda been better but overall it was great and contemporaru and was never boring they put a lot in there with plenty of room to grow in the upcoming movies
Where the heck have you guys been. Totally missed you guys. so happy to find you again. a faithful subscription once again. Love you guys, you are so fun and have such awesome knowledge of comics. Hector I am especially happy to see you.
Parker has to weigh the time needed to build his own tech against school time, family time, internship time, etc. That in comparison to living high hog and his hero giving him presents. I think going forward, like the decision made at the end, we will see more peter tech.
The real superhero news lives!!! No offense to the other guys over at the other channel, but you are and always will be the best people to review superhero content. Let's get you guys a subgroup with your own channel under RPG titled "That Superhero show" (like That 70's show). I hope you guys still do stuff for other movies as I know you like to do every now and again. But I need this show back. Help me out people!
love this movie hands down my fav Spider-Man movie. I agree with Hector, I didn't think the spidey suit needed all the Tech either, webwings cool, spidertracers yes, different webbing hell yeah. but less of other stuff.
I absolutely HATE it when people say they aren't doing spider sense, because he does.. its showcased soo lightly, but its there!! He's been spiderman for just under a year, maybe he just hasn't discovered his spider sense yet, its still a skill he has to dig out! I love that you guys actually acknowledged this point, you guys are one of the only reviews I've seen that realize it was there in civil war.. Loved the review overall as well! loved the movie overall too!
I'm getting a little teary-eyed just thinking about Peter dying (and Tom Holland leaving) so that Miles can step in and it's only been one movie yet. lol.
This Homecoming is the most emotional Spiderman or superhero movie I've ever seen from the enthusiastic excitement of Tom Holland to the frightening moment of him crying out from the rubble like a little child it had my emotions on a rollercoaster ride.
Imagine if in the third movie, Peter gets seriously injured against the Sinister Six, and then he's saved by Prowler who brings him to his sister in law, who is a nurse and Miles' mother, then Miles meets Peter and he stammers like when Peter met Tony Stark
Peter doesn't need to die to have Miles around. He can just have the mentor role, pass the torch to Miles and retire from crime fighting for a while. I don't know why people seem to think that Miles can only get the spotlight if Peter is no longer around.
Hey guys, what you think after Avengers 4 end credit scene we see Norman Osborn putting together the Dark Avengers? After seeing what Tony Stark was able to do with his team and receiving government funding and putting Stark Industries as the top provider for the government Norman Osborne gets jealous and becomes the most threatening foe the Avengers ever face. A human being. That would be so awesome to see Thor and all these powerful heroes go up against the planet's biggest threat....A Human Being. Something like the Dark Avengers run in comics.
those 5 movies INCLUDE his cameo appearances. Civil War, Infinity War and Avengers 4 are three of them. hopefully sony and Marvel renew the 'Deal' after Homecoming 2...or whatever its gunna be called
PS: the HyperRPG logo does often not stand out against your background images. Needs to be a different color at a minimum. When you see your videos in a list with other providers it is hard to see it is a HyperRPG property.
In the Avengers, Cap is 92 years old, then in a movie that comes out four years later, Civil War, he's 100 years old, meaning Cap woke up in 2008 and Winter Soldier takes place probably in 2010 or 2014, somewhere in between
When you say he's looking out for his aunt, his friends...He's looking out for the neighborhood . He is not only Amazing, He is "Your friendly neighborhood Spider-Man ", after all!
They should introduce Harry Osbourne during his Junior year and let the audience get a little taste of his presence, and then explore it more with both him AND his father Norman when Peter is a Senior.
Hector, your enthusiasm for this stuff is the best shit ever. I loved when you started rambling about how you made sure your GI Joes had the right tools for the mission, haha.
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What did you think about SPIDER-MAN: HOMECOMING? Also, did this movie shift the Marvel timeline?
I loved it especially the ride to Homecoming
i just came back from watch it . it was awesome and i wasn't a real big spider-man fan but because of tom holland he won me over. michael keaton was great as vulture. i love ned, michelle, and liz it was a awesome movie.
When you guys discussed the whole thing about a 5 movie arc for Peter Parker, didn't Marvel/Sony/Feige/whoever said it mean the 5 movies are Civil War, Homecoming, Avengers 3 & 4, Homecoming Sequel?
Hyper RPG I AM SO HAPPY SOMEONE ELSE NOTICED THE STOPLIGHT THING IN THE CAR SCENE
Hyper RPG Just saw it for a second time tonight and the main thing that sticks with me is the MJ reveal. It looks like they're going for a complete reversal of the traditional Peter/MJ relationship.
It's been a while since I've read any Spider-Man but MJ was always Peter's ultimate dream girl and the quintessential teenage crush. This time around I picked up on a few things I didn't notice on the first watch, it looks as though MJ has a secret crush on Peter. The subtle way she looks at him near the end when she asks him what he's hiding and how she tells the decathlon group all the things he's quite and then adds "not that I'm obsessed with him or anything". I'm very curious to see how they work this in the sequels.
And that is one thing I am very much looking forward to, more of this Spider-Man. I absolutely loved the feel of this movie. I felt like I was watching this generation's version of The Breakfast Club that just so happened to have Spider-Man in it.
The best scene of the movie is when he's stuck under the rubble and he's crying for help, shit hit me so hard.
Fun fact, that part was totally pulled from the comics
Yeah reminds us that he's just a teenager trying to do some good
If I was stuck in there I'd shit myself
Yeah when Hector was talking about how this movie lacked the emotion of Amazing SpiderMan 2, I thought of this scene. That was so freaking intense. Tom Holland sold it, and the director really made you feel the claustrophobia and the suffocation of the situation. So freaking good.
David Tate that just makes it even better!
Moonie iLLmatic That was the first time I actually felt bad for Peter. Tobey Maguire and Andrew Garfield couldn't even make me feel that way when they had their emotional scenes.
that scene with peter and vulture in the car was intense. The look on his face when he starts piecing it together. Loved that scene
Efrem F love the reflection of the lights on him too they used green and red for vulture and spidey colors
George I was like damn Vulture has Batman detective skills blood no.....!
That was one of the best scenes I've seen in a comic book movie. Everything about how the scene was framed was perfect and you can really feel the tension of peter the whole time. Holland and Keaton really play well off each other and is an interesting take on the whole dad intimidating his daughter's date. I hadn't been that unsettled by a comic book villain scene since the joker's "you wanna know how I got these scars" in the dark knight.
I disagree with the notion that Spider-Man Homecoming didn't have stakes and an emotional core. The emotional core is Peter Parker. Also The Vulture was frightening and Peter was completely out of his depths and it showed throughout the film.
solarge knowles We didn't say it didn't. We wish it had more of that.
This is the most emotional story of Spiderman that ever witness and I believe you guys were only emotional for those other Spiderman movies because you were kids back then... There are scenes in this Spiderman movie that delivers the most impact of genuine emotion because he seem to be a very vulnerable child that the others are not... Its like watching those old Batman episodes with the cliffhanger when a Batman and Robin is tight to a table and a huge buzz saw is about to saw them in half which as a kid watching it you're afraid for them but as an adult you just shake your head and say they will escape some how.
I think it had plenty.
@@blakartist2000 Clearly you haven't seen Spider-man 2
@@giovanniluke3882 @Giovanni Luke Yes I did in the theater and enjoyed it but I was an adult at the time and it didn't move me as emotionally as Homecoming. I'm a movie buff and have watched a lot of foreign films that are more emotional because they do more character building than Hollywood's movies so it's rare for me to be emotional for an American movie but I was for Homecoming.
okay okay OKAy it's Peter's movie, but can we talk about Tony's arc? This is a crazy growth film for him, I think. He's the father figure now that he so dreaded before, and he LOVES Peter, you can tell when Peter accuses him of not being there and he steps out of the suit. During the conflict after the ferry scene? CHILLS. "I wanted you to be better." Tony sees the potential in Peter to be just like him, operating in the suit, but wants him to embrace the responsibility that comes with powers faster than Tony learned how to. "If you're nothing without the suit" I think is this generation's "With great power..." because it's so central to Peter's character growth and kind of becomes his mantra. And reuniting with Pepper?? Amazing amazing amazing. It broke my heart that he was hurting so much in Civil War, because he was experiencing not one heartbreak but two, with Pep and with the team. And now he gets redemption by moving back in with his team, getting engaged with Pepper, and having a healthy father/son relationship with Peter?? My precious son deserves all the best things in the world, and I'm glad they're giving them to him, finally.
MeiLinEakin omg, now that I think if it... Thank you for pointing out Tony's arx
MeiLinEakin Reuniting Pepper was a Contract Issue & they should ditch it because Paltrow is a hack fraud selling Bullshit Healing Stickers and Jade Vaginal Eggs lmao
And in the end he says "sorry I took your suit", you know like how some fathers when they punish/ground their sons and they really didn't want to do it but it's for their own good. I really felt that emotion from him.
I disagree about "if you're nothing without the suit" being this generations "with great power..". Peter already learned "with great power comes great responsibility" when Ben died. He makes that clear in Civil War with the line "when you can do the things I can.. but don't, and then the bad things happen...they happen because of you."
"If you're nothing without the suit..." is just part of his journey, and was the mantra for this particular chapter in Peter's life. The 'Becoming Spider-Man' chapter. We've seen the classic origin story, but this was the origin story for becoming a better, more experienced hero.
This was the first Spidey movie to show Peter messing up. Every other movie just has him instantly become a hero, constantly saving people and making it look easy. Peter gets his ass kicked here and it makes sense. He has no real training. But with experiencing more each day, he gets better and improves.
They kinda have this great son/dad dynamic because Peter responds to him even though he's kinda way too strict. You can easily say Tony's self doubt justified because he DOES give Pete a hard time and you can easily imagine an own child who'd feel unloved receiving all of this. And yet it does NOT go that way with Peter, it kind of works, so it's easy to imagine that Tony might think, I was worried about my flaws and yet, this works. So maybe with my own son, it has a chance to work.
the part where Peter had a building fall over him and when he was screaming
"SOMEBODY HELP ME! I CAN'T BREATHE!"
it hit me that he really is a kid and he was about to cry and that was a good scene as it made me genuinely worried for him...
and the fact that no one came to help him made it much better...
about what you guys said about him refusing the avengers offer
what I realized is that, what vulture said to spidey stuck. people like stark up top do not really give a shit about people like them on the bottom.
even stark said himself, such crimes are too petty for the avengers pay grade.
so spiderman wisdomly choosing to look after his own people, his friends and family was such a good character development for peter
it makes the narrative say that idolizing these heroes is good but there are choices they make that are consequential.
peter as a naive kid, little by little learns a bit more and hopefully becomes mature enough to handle his own problems along with the weight of the world
Didn't think of it that way. Good perspective.
I don't say this to just anyone, but goddamn do I miss you guys, it's unfortunate that we don't get to see you guys together anymore but we understand you are all focusing on your own career growth but just wanted to show some love guys....I've been waiting for this review and this brightened up my weekend to get it from the three of you
Or you can watch the VODs of them on CZcams. They don't mark the video titles with Cineverse, but the placeholder pictures always say Cineverse.
They are the best together
I can't find Cineverse videos for the past few weeks :(
I love the part where tony is telling peter off and he's just like "This is the adult talking", that scene gave me chills, tony acted like a father figure for peter in this movie, it was great.
the way this video ends is why I adore Hector.
The part that i loved the most is when Peter basically refuse to be Ironman. For me that was amazing.
Alberto R. But he will in infinity war so it's not that impactful to me at least
George Just because he's not an Avenger doesn't mean he won't help them if necessary
Flame of Udun u misunderstood I'm saying he will be avenger and he will get the iron spider suit
George, no.... he will NEVER be an Avenger and will NEVER get the Iron Spider-Man suit. It is a VERY impactful decision to make.
He has NO CHOICE, but to be involved in Infinity War. That's an all hands on deck kind of situation. Once in a lifetime.
Exactly how I felt! It shows that Spidey is his own man and doesn't need all this tech and a team to be the best. Great scene.
I really like how they played the MJ card. I feel like they are saying, this isn't the spider-man from the comics. This is the spider-man in the marvel cinematic universe. Things are different, BUT, we are not going to forget the history. MJ is a really important character to Peter, so there will be an MJ in the cinematic universe. Just like Aunt May isn't old, Flash isn't a "jock" bully, but is still a bully. Tony Stark is playing more of the support system, and not the Fantastic Four, which is where he went for help in the comics. I'm loving it. I know it's hard for many of us hardcore, old, spidey fans to come to the conclusion this universe is different LOL. Great review guys!
As far as having Karen AI. I loved it, and I think Kevin Smith said it best. In the comics, Peter/Spidey has a lot of thought bubbles and you see his thoughts. He talks to himself in his head, like we all do. But having Karen gives him someone to talk to, giving us those moment of what is in his mind. I think it works well.
53 mins? Let me grab the popcorn.
who larbs these guys?
i larb you
damn, Hector just hijacked the entire convo with a rambling incoherent spew of none-sense for like 3 minutes. What a bore
lol sorry you couldn't keep up. I'll talk slow-er next time.
Nooo, I want Tom Holland to play Peter Parker for like 10 more movies, so they can make a separate Miles Morales movies or something :D
@Sara Waqar like the game?
She's MJ.... But she's not Mary Jane. Her name is Michelle Johnson or something
Alpha Bet Michelle jones but yeah
"I don't want mysterio" hMMmMm
What is up with Hector's obsession with Peter dying? Why can't Peter and Miles co-exist?
Flame of Udun I think they should co-exist for a movie but pull a surprise move and have Peter Parker die, it would tragic and a huge moment in the MCU. But they should only do that in 4 or 5.
Flame of Udun Because Peter is Miles's uncle Ben.
But why does Miles need an Uncle Ben? Isn't that then just rehashing Peter's motivations?
That's the storyline in the Spiderman comics. Peter dies, Miles becomes the new Spiderman.
MJ is also a white red head in the comics and Aunt May is older.
FYI The Winter soldier was an A class MCU villain. doesn't get mention
Mrjay absolutely still my fave
Probably because he was more of a victim than a true villain, as he was brainwashed. I agree he was incredible as a conflict, though.
Not a villain, didn't even speak, only fought and was brainwashed, he was literally just a worse version of T-1000
I love at 8:45 when Hector says not Mysterio, boy were you wrong😂😂
When Spider-Man shoots the web without looking on the ferry at the one henchman it seemed like he used his spider sense.
Michael Keaton's Vulture was everything.
I found it hilarious how when Tony and Pepper decided to get engaged, they decided to do it as a contingency because Spidey's supposedly planned press intro as an Avenger fell through.
They needed to brainstorm what to do with all the reporters outside and Tony decided to bring out the ring and Pepper was like, "Oh, we're doing that now? Hold on a sec." as part of a corporate spiel.
*Its funny looking back at it and him saying no Mysterio*
What's exciting is that the new MJ is gonna have a brain which was sadly lacking in prior movies. It will bring a level of interaction between holland and her in the future movies that prior ones were quite lacking..
I can't wait, to see my dude Michael Mando as The Scorpion, in a future Spider-Man movie.
Trinidad Botello besides better call Saul is he from anything else?
George Far Cry 3, he played the main antagonist, Vaas
George I really don't know. I only seen him, in Better Call Saul and Spider-Man Homecoming.
Go watch far cry 3 reveal trailer and you will know exactly who he is!
Making it smaller in scale and personal made the movie stand out . It's refreshing to see a movie not about the world ending and just about characters and real motivation .
I really loved Zendaya's character, and if she's MJ moving forward, that'd be a great and different take from the kind of beauty queen character we've always gotten in the past.
Be honest, who else want to see what "kill mode" could do?
Galactic Shawn 😏
Loved this movie! Being from Queens, Peter and Donald Glover's character quickly debating deli sandwiches was such a Queens thing it was incredible
This is by far my favorite Spider-Man movie and has the potential to be the best iteration. And to me that is ok because I'm excited for the build up rather than stakes being so high in one film. Like you guys I love that the villain wasn't EVIL, but instead he was flawed in a way that made him relatable and sympathetic. With that said I want to say that's what I loved about this movie, the fact that relatively everything from The Vulture to Ned was relatable. I guess it's because of how grounded it was, and I loved how Peter contrasted from Tony when he was offered to be an Avenger. Loved this movie. I love watching these reviews and reactions. See ya next time!
I loved this movie, my favourite thing about the Spider Man comics is Peter interacting with his friends and how he deals with his friends and being Spider Man and this what this movie did and that is why it my favourite Spider Man movie.
Holy fuck i actually watched all of this. it didnt even feel like 53 min.
I think they hit the emotional part very well with Peter trapped in the remains of the building that falls apart during his final encounter with Vulture. Man, I could really feel the stress of him couldn't get out from there, for a second there I was like running out of breathe
Zendaya is MJ! WOOOOOOOO! God, that made me so happy.
I've also never sat in a theater and had a TWIST happen to me. Yet this movie did it w/ Liz and her father. I legitimately gasped.
I'm excited for MJ. Bring on the tears.
She's MJ.... but not Mary Jane. Her name is Michelle Johnson or something.
@Alpha bet Michelle Jones; but yea i like that creative decision. It allows the mceu to have its cake and eat it too. Peter had a romantic connection with a michelle in the comics and yet we also know that his most iconic partner has been mary jane so rather than retread old territory, they gave us something new while winking at something nostalgic. Mary jane and Gwen Stacey (my favorite) have had their chance to shine as Peter's main love interests on the big screen; It's now Michelle's turn while barring the iconic title of "MJ"
Still their MJ. You all can try and evade whatever it is you are trying to evade, but it's their MJ. She's THE character, however you slice it. Sorry.
+xShineyxDiverx He is not trying to evade anything, she's not "THE character", she's just A character who is given the same initials as some lame "wink" towards the audience. That's like saying Joseph Gordon-Levitt's character in The Dark Knight Rises was Dick Grayson just because his first name was Robin. I have no problem with Zendaya's casting, I don't like what they did because she could've either been an original character, or the actual Mary Jane Watson character, and yet she's neither? She plays a new character who has nothing to do with Mary Jane, doesn't act like her, doesn't even have the same name, yet "her friends call her MJ"? It's beyond stupid, why the need to overcomplicate matters? This is even worse than The Mandarin debacle. The worst part is that way they undercut both their original character Michelle, as well as the actual Mary Jane Watson character.
I aint really high on this channel, but I just LOVE it when you guys are reviewing a superhero movie. Loved the movie, and I think it's one of the best movies in the MCU so far. I miss your days on Superhero news.
Definitely my favourite Spider-Man movie! Will be seeing it again to make sure I didn't miss anything. I was surprised you guys didn't touch on the appearance of Pepper. We haven't seen her in 4 years since Iron Man 3 and Civil War gave a bit of uncertainty to the relationship between her and Tony. She got a big applause at the screening I attended. Overall I didn't really have any issues with it but i'm super excited to see what they'll do with Vulture.
I love how authentic this movie feels. The characters, the dialogue, and the action all feel genuine. The stakes are handled incredibly carefully.
i clicked on the video, saw the trio, and the tingles jingles were too much. i gotta clean off my keyboard now if ya know what i mean
My ranking for spidey movies :
Spiderman 2
Spiderman
Homecoming
Amazing Spiderman 1
Spiderman 3
Amazing Spiderman 2
I love the ending with Aunt May.
I just LOVE seeing you guys TOGETHER again haha LOVE THIS and this Review its Awesome! LOVE this like always!! Miss you guys!
I love when the holy trinity gets together to review a movie.
THE TRIO!!!!!!!! I LOVE U !
I think they did show spider sense in a really subtle way, sort of like Adam talked about in Civil War. The scene when Peter is eating on the fire escape leaving a voicemail for Happy. Peter drops his food and the camera moves really fast to follow the food leaving Peter out of frame. It then reveals he caught the falling food and is standing on the side of the fire escape and he looks at himself and says "woah" as if he is surprised about where he is or what he is doing. Maybe my interpretation of spider sense is wrong, but I think in this moment of the movie his body reacted intuitively and with such speed that Peter wasn't completely aware of himself. This hyper instinctive action is what I think of as spidey-sense.
I think Michelle saying she's MJ is like the officer from the Dark Knight Rises saying his name is Robin. It's just a nod to the fans
Marcelo Hernandez Exactly! It wasn't anything serious as fans make it out to be; it was just a little Easter Egg.
Marcelo Hernandez I disagree she 100 percent gonna be his next love interest... they just changing it to where MJ wants Peter 1st not the other way
Did anyone see the way Michelle "MJ" looked at Peter Parker during the end sequence?? Clearly there's some feelings there.
the only thing that has not seen addressed yet in any reviews so far is tony stark sold the avengers tower to someone. who did he sell it to maybe oscorp since there is no oscorp building in NYC yet.
I think you guys are confusing the 5-film deal w/Spider-Man. It's not 5 solo films -it's Civil War, Homecoming, Infinity War, Avengers 4 & the Homecoming sequel. That takes Peter Parker to the beginning of Phase 4 in 2019. No way is Sony/Marvel killing off Peter 2 years from now -especially when he will only be a Junior in High School in the sequel.
"I was watching......porn"
Aaron Davis is the brother of Miles Morales's father, guys! Miles's mother is Puerto Rican, his father is African American! Another thing. They don't need to kill off Peter to bring in Miles. What if they did a Spider-Man movie with BOTH of them as Spider-Man? A team-up of sorts? There is an animated series where Peter and Miles meet each other and Spider-Gwen.
Great review guys. Everything was spot on. Personally I loved that there was so much tech in the suit because it helped shape the character. Here Peter is dressed in a multibillion dollar suit with what looks like even more tech options than we've seen in an onscreen Iron Man suit and he doesn't care. Yeah he thinks they're cool because what kid wouldn't but he's a simple hero. He asked for the regular web options and he didn't care for all of the fancy stuff when it came to actually using them (even though he loved the fact that they existed). He came across as the kind of hero who would use the bare minimum amount of tech to get things done and you saw that when he fought in his big fight scene. And I like the idea of the AI because 1) of course Tony would build a suit with an AI lol he couldn't help himself. 2) it was nice to have someone for the character to play off of in a scene where it would have just been him alone passing time. Or when he's all by himself with only one friend to his name. Plus in the comics he has little panels and thought bubbles and whatnot to show his train of thought, but the equivalent of that here was him talking to Karen instead of rambling to himself in the scene which would have eventually gotten weird. It was so entertaining to watch the AI become a character (especially now that there's no more Jarvis & Tony and Friday doesn't have the same spark). Lastly I feel like it made sense to have the parachute feature. Tony clearly feels responsible for Peter, particularly in the crime fighting arena, and I absolutely buy that he would add a feature like that simply because he took it upon himself to outfit a child whose power keeps him airborne and reliant on buildings and tall structures. The whole problem Peter was having was feeling like he was being treated like a child and it was because that was exactly what was happening in his relationship with Tony. Everything about the suit was childfriendly from the Training Wheels settings to the baby monitor features and the fact that the naming of these things (plus Tony's insisting that he be a small time hero) showed how Tony viewed him. A lot of these things don't match up with the comics but they're not meant to. The MCU isn't the comics and they spend a lot of time trying to make us see that.
Mysterio is fucking awesome
Hector; the issue is that in "The Avengers", the computer screens on the Helicarrier make it clear it's 2012. It's reinforced in "Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D." as well. Fury says "Earth had a visitor last year" (Thor) placing _Thor_ in 2011. Except Fury's Big Week comic places _Iron Man 2_ and _The Incredible Hulk_ in the same week, making them 2011 as well. Since _Iron Man_ is six months prior to _Iron Man 2_, it would be around 2010.
The issue in _Civil War_ was that the two writers believed that _Iron Man 1_ took place in 2008, the same year it came out in. So they had Vision saying "Since the eight years that Mr. Stark announced himself as Iron Man...." placing _Civil War_ in 2016. Thaddeus Ross also said "These past *four* years you've operated with unlimited power and no supervision". (placing _The Avengers_ in 2012 yet again). So for some reason, _Spider-Man: Homecoming_ writers had their movie state eight years instead of four years and it just pulls an _X-Men_ move where you mess up the whole timeline. I expect this from FOX, not Disney/Marvel.
Murali Thaya I blame Sony and the writers more so than marvel and Sidney but they r at fault as well
It is SO GOOD to see THE Superhero News trinity back again.
I LOVED this movie! Easily the best Spider-Man movie in 13 years.
Homecoming was incredible.
PLEASE.... let the Homecoming sequel be as good.
Honestly, this film is not as good as the first two Sam Raimi Spider-Man films, but I liked it way more than the last 3 Spider-Man films.
Still, great fucking movie!
The smartest fan boys in the biz.
Always like when the Holy Trinity is here
even my mom gasp on the seen and she don't even speak English
Yeay the three superfriends finally back together
My fav Spiderman movie already, so glad he's actually a kid and showcases Peter's struggles as a kid and a superhero
*Aside from your awesome review* Don't you think it be perfect if the Fantastic Four joined the MCU. Mr. Fantastic could be the super genius that challenges Tony Stark. The Thing can have an epic fight scene with the Hulk. Human Torch can be that one cocky friend to Spider-Man. Invisible Girl can break so much more ground for women in the MCU. Also their villians are too perfect, Doom, Galactus , Silver Surfer kinda. They all fit perfect like a missing puzzle in a better way than the X-Men in my opinion (although it would be awesome if they joined too).
if there planning for miles morales spider, were peter parker got killed they need the fantastic four for it
I'm at work right now! Can't wait to get home and watch this on the big screen!!
Don't know if its true but someone said Tony was moving out of Avengers tower and Oscorp was moving in.
ohctascooby2 that's a rumor not confirmed by anyone from marvel or the movie
I still remember watching your guys' reaction to Spider-Man bein in the mcu
I can't decide whether my favorite scene is when Peter is stuck under the rubble or in the car with the vulture! I will say, with no shame, I totally cried a tear or two when he says "COME ON SPIDER-MAN!". I was dying to see your guy's review on it and can't wait to see more in the future! (ps I totally freaked out when he said "I gotta nephew" hope that means Miles is coming!)
I saw the movie a couple of days ago and I just realised that Aunt May finding out at the end could be their gateway into telling some of the origin story in the sequel, because he'll have to explain to May the when, how and why he's Spider-Man.
No one does Super news/reviews like these boys! My go to for all the geeky goodness. Always leaves me with tingles in my jingles!! Keep it up!!!
We Spiderman can move and bend his body in unnatural ways, crooks and villains mention this a lot in his early years as Spidey. I except some of the cgi movements for that purpose alone.
Jason Bateman or Kevin Bacon for Uncle Ben
Her MJ isn't Mary Jane. They may grow to share similar traits, but the character is different and I like it. I don't wanna see another model, this character could have more depth and growth. I wanna see where it goes. Really enjoyed the movie. Might be my favorite spiderman flick. My favorite growing up. It's really good for a this year, day and age. I kinda liked Flash too.
Spider Man: Homecoming is BEST spider man movie EVER!!
this wasn't always the case but I think I prefer Spiderman to Spiderman 2. Homecoming comes 2nd. then Spiderman 2. I'd give Homecoming a 9.0 the F/X in the action especially during the plane heist scene coulda been better but overall it was great and contemporaru and was never boring they put a lot in there with plenty of room to grow in the upcoming movies
Where the heck have you guys been. Totally missed you guys. so happy to find you again. a faithful subscription once again. Love you guys, you are so fun and have such awesome knowledge of comics. Hector I am especially happy to see you.
I love these guys so down to earth so genuine man
God I love the three of you guys. Perfect trio!
Is no one going to mention that the principal was an ancestor of a Howling commando?
They tell the origin in passing when Ned is talking with Peter about the radio active spider on the way to school.
Augustine, is your name in the credits?
Parker has to weigh the time needed to build his own tech against school time, family time, internship time, etc.
That in comparison to living high hog and his hero giving him presents.
I think going forward, like the decision made at the end, we will see more peter tech.
The real superhero news lives!!! No offense to the other guys over at the other channel, but you are and always will be the best people to review superhero content. Let's get you guys a subgroup with your own channel under RPG titled "That Superhero show" (like That 70's show). I hope you guys still do stuff for other movies as I know you like to do every now and again. But I need this show back. Help me out people!
love this movie hands down my fav Spider-Man movie. I agree with Hector, I didn't think the spidey suit needed all the Tech either, webwings cool, spidertracers yes, different webbing hell yeah. but less of other stuff.
I absolutely HATE it when people say they aren't doing spider sense, because he does.. its showcased soo lightly, but its there!! He's been spiderman for just under a year, maybe he just hasn't discovered his spider sense yet, its still a skill he has to dig out! I love that you guys actually acknowledged this point, you guys are one of the only reviews I've seen that realize it was there in civil war..
Loved the review overall as well! loved the movie overall too!
I'm getting a little teary-eyed just thinking about Peter dying (and Tom Holland leaving) so that Miles can step in and it's only been one movie yet. lol.
This Homecoming is the most emotional Spiderman or superhero movie I've ever seen from the enthusiastic excitement of Tom Holland to the frightening moment of him crying out from the rubble like a little child it had my emotions on a rollercoaster ride.
But does Pepper still have Extremis in her? Tony sorted her out in IM3 but didn't specifically say he removed Extremis.
Imagine if in the third movie, Peter gets seriously injured against the Sinister Six, and then he's saved by Prowler who brings him to his sister in law, who is a nurse and Miles' mother, then Miles meets Peter and he stammers like when Peter met Tony Stark
Great review guys. Hector you've earned a new fan man. Saw you on the other video and now here and it's great to see a true fan who knows his shit.
Peter doesn't need to die to have Miles around. He can just have the mentor role, pass the torch to Miles and retire from crime fighting for a while. I don't know why people seem to think that Miles can only get the spotlight if Peter is no longer around.
Peter dying is how it goes in the comics.
Obviously the movie doesn't follow the comics going by the numerous changes to the characters. Miles and Peter can absolutely co-exist.
Peter is still alive in the comics last I checked
Of course, they brought him back. They wouldn't permanently kill Peter Parker. Doesn't mean Peter has to die to shoehorn in Miles.
Glad to see s fellow Ghanaian in the MCU... Abraham Attah has done himself and the country proud!
Hey guys, what you think after Avengers 4 end credit scene we see Norman Osborn putting together the Dark Avengers? After seeing what Tony Stark was able to do with his team and receiving government funding and putting Stark Industries as the top provider for the government Norman Osborne gets jealous and becomes the most threatening foe the Avengers ever face. A human being. That would be so awesome to see Thor and all these powerful heroes go up against the planet's biggest threat....A Human Being. Something like the Dark Avengers run in comics.
those 5 movies INCLUDE his cameo appearances. Civil War, Infinity War and Avengers 4 are three of them. hopefully sony and Marvel renew the 'Deal' after Homecoming 2...or whatever its gunna be called
PS: the HyperRPG logo does often not stand out against your background images. Needs to be a different color at a minimum. When you see your videos in a list with other providers it is hard to see it is a HyperRPG property.
In the Avengers, Cap is 92 years old, then in a movie that comes out four years later, Civil War, he's 100 years old, meaning Cap woke up in 2008 and Winter Soldier takes place probably in 2010 or 2014, somewhere in between
the MJ situation reminds me of what Nolan did with "John Blake" in tdkr...
When you say he's looking out for his aunt, his friends...He's looking out for the neighborhood . He is not only Amazing, He is "Your friendly neighborhood Spider-Man ", after all!
Hector!! :D I loved your Vision impression :D
"I don't want to see Mysterio"
Now everyone does 😂
a spiderman movie with willem dafoe, alfed molina and michael keaton as villains.... hmmm
MrAramis02 I would love that man
They should introduce Harry Osbourne during his Junior year and let the audience get a little taste of his presence, and then explore it more with both him AND his father Norman when Peter is a Senior.
Filip Johansson oscorp is now a possibility, the avengers tower is being sold which could be bought by oscorp.
U're right! i could totally see that happening
Filip Johansson what if it turns into the Baxter building
Hector, your enthusiasm for this stuff is the best shit ever. I loved when you started rambling about how you made sure your GI Joes had the right tools for the mission, haha.