Was 'Smells Like Teen Spirit' Really a Rip-off? Experts Weigh In

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  • @SoundscapesRock
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  • @Foo-oo-oo-oolsGold89
    @Foo-oo-oo-oolsGold89 Před 2 měsíci +36

    If kurt Cobain said he ripped off The Pixies then he gave them the credit.

    • @AnonymousAccount514
      @AnonymousAccount514 Před 2 měsíci +1

      i think theyre just pissed that they didnt become as famous and rich as them...understandable

  • @ectur8
    @ectur8 Před 2 měsíci +18

    Except Kurt Cobain literally credited them himself. Nice title tho. Catchy!

  • @tomtomthebear
    @tomtomthebear Před 2 měsíci +8

    Even in Kurt’s journals it says ripping of the pixies was part of the plan 😂😂

  • @DanksSativa
    @DanksSativa Před 2 měsíci +10

    Nirvana got me into the Pixies. Kurt and Kim had a shared interview around Christmas, really good interview they were joking around, you could tell Kurt was nervous and being really goofy

  • @RickMichaels-if5eq
    @RickMichaels-if5eq Před 2 měsíci +6

    That’s the beauty of music, everyone borrows from their influences and perfects it. No one is original!🎵🎸

    • @0okamino
      @0okamino Před 2 měsíci +2

      Generally, I think that the way we might still be original, to some degree, is in how we can each assemble those influences in our own personal ways.

    • @RickMichaels-if5eq
      @RickMichaels-if5eq Před 2 měsíci +1

      Yes, I agree!👍🏽

    • @TheCuthere
      @TheCuthere Před měsícem

      Devo is, nothing like them when they appeared.

  • @x-rayvision3802
    @x-rayvision3802 Před 2 měsíci +4

    It's almost like people are influenced by things they love. It's almost like every single artist in every form of art does this.

  • @shanemartin2691
    @shanemartin2691 Před 2 měsíci +7

    Yes, I feel that Kurdt Cobain liked that contrast formula of the pixies and used it to create his own

    • @sword-and-shield
      @sword-and-shield Před 2 měsíci

      Right and like the Pixies were the first huh, probably the first you heard.

  • @petertheodoris5139
    @petertheodoris5139 Před 2 měsíci +3

    Kurt is such a cheeky honest stirrer. I would love to listen to a conversation between Kurt and Francis Black from the Pixies. Now that would be compelling!

  • @hansvandermeulen5515
    @hansvandermeulen5515 Před 2 měsíci +6

    Loud, quiet, loud etc sounds like Black Sabbath to me.

    • @TornadoOfCards
      @TornadoOfCards Před 2 měsíci +1

      Distortion on, distortion off, distortion on

  • @lesleywhibley
    @lesleywhibley Před 2 měsíci +1

    Music sounds goes to the next level that it.

  • @shanemartin2691
    @shanemartin2691 Před 2 měsíci +4

    Jim Morrison was good at that formula in his vocal delivery. He Got that from the Pixies... Not talking about the group though 😂
    Pixies and Giants!!

    • @0okamino
      @0okamino Před 2 měsíci

      You mean the kind of pixies that come out when a bottle of absinthe is opened? That sort? 😉

  • @blachubear
    @blachubear Před 2 měsíci +14

    If The Pixies influenced Nirvana, Smashing Pumpkins & Radiohead, then why The Rock & Roll Hall Of Fame keep over looking this amazing band? Just saying?

    • @wordup897
      @wordup897 Před 2 měsíci +3

      RnR hall of Fame sucks. It's a political organization.

    • @WALLYDRAG502
      @WALLYDRAG502 Před 2 měsíci +2

      Because the pixies never ever truely broke through to the mainstream.
      You wont be in the hall unless youre truely a household name.
      You have to be on the level of the most well known...
      Not necessarily the best or most creative.
      Fame is a popularity contest....
      Lol

    • @NateDiggy33
      @NateDiggy33 Před 2 měsíci +1

      Because they had zero mainstream success…duh.

    • @blachubear
      @blachubear Před 2 měsíci

      @@NateDiggy33So did The Velvet Underground but that first album, their legacy & what Lou Reed did after his career influence lots of bands & they're in The Rock & Roll Hall Of Fame. So The Pixies deserve to be in their too if they influence icons like Nirvana, Smashing Pumpkins & Radiohead. Hell even David Bowie took noticed. Now that's nothing to sneeze at if you get Bowie's attention & respect.

    • @blachubear
      @blachubear Před 2 měsíci

      @@WALLYDRAG502So did The Velvet Underground but their first album(yes the one with the banana) & what Lou Reed did to his solo career influenced lots of bands and they in The Rock & Roll Hall Of Fame. So if The Pixies influenced superstar bands like Nirvana, Smashing Pumpkins & Radiohead and the group still touring and bringing the masses, then they deserve to be in The Rock & Roll Hall Of Fame.

  • @hodawg7762
    @hodawg7762 Před 2 měsíci +2

    They got credit. Kurt and Krist advertised every band from the underground that was good and got them notoriety and massive record sales. Kurt more than once said they were a Pixies rip off.

  • @thebigbopper6000
    @thebigbopper6000 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Every band is inspired by other musicians. Kurt loved the pixies. He was good friends with Kim Deal. But the first time Kurt had a chance to meet black Francis he was too shy to talk to him and Francis took it as a snub and held a grudge against Kurt. He admitted publicly to ripping their sound.
    But it was out of love not malice.
    It's not Kurt's fault that nirvana also happened to write great songs and actually acted like a rock band and the pixies looked like a group of elementary school teachers that got together on the weekends to jam.

  • @SimonXRitchey
    @SimonXRitchey Před 2 měsíci +3

    2:59 Chris who!!?? 😂😂

    • @mxoza1040
      @mxoza1040 Před 2 měsíci

      I nearly died of laughter🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • @bigjim4577
    @bigjim4577 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Regardless of what Kurt said or did, the Pixies were amazing and it paved the way for Kim Deal (literally one of the best musicians EVER!!) on her path to greatness!! Kurt was sarcastic and said a lot of things to rile things up so he could laugh about it.

  • @giantcheesegrater
    @giantcheesegrater Před 2 měsíci +1

    That is a pic of Kelley Deal, not Kim.

  • @TheCuthere
    @TheCuthere Před měsícem

    Not only the Pixies but The Raincoats, The Vaselines, The Meat Puppets and Husker Du

  • @mlgkillerthefoxkellix5608

    What is that melody playing in 0:13? 🤙🤙🎵🎶🎧

  • @UnqualifiedReviews
    @UnqualifiedReviews Před 2 měsíci

    He was intimidated by Black Francis because of the whole Kim should do more. Once she was out of Pixies and mad The Breeders Kirt took her on tour with him opening for Nirvana.

  • @systemlfo
    @systemlfo Před 2 měsíci

    Elvis - ‘You’re the Devil in Disguise’
    Quiet verse, loud chorus
    Released 1968
    No one has a monopoly on technique or style

  • @ranman75
    @ranman75 Před 2 měsíci +4

    I think Kim should of been given more chance to sing and write songs.

    • @mikeherrera5302
      @mikeherrera5302 Před 2 měsíci +1

      They tried it, it didn’t go well

    • @Devik666
      @Devik666 Před 2 měsíci +1

      @@mikeherrera5302breeders cannon ball was alright

  • @scottbivins4051
    @scottbivins4051 Před 2 měsíci

    Uria Heep are the inventors of this formula and the best at it. July Morning anybody?

  •  Před 24 dny +1

    Pixies 🧚‍♂️ I’ll check them out ..

  • @badfairy9554
    @badfairy9554 Před měsícem

    two bands I love, I hope to see the pixies one day too.

  • @thebeingbecoming3596
    @thebeingbecoming3596 Před 2 měsíci +12

    The Pixies ripped off the sound of other bands MUCH more than Nirvana ever did. The Pixies didn't invent the quiet/loud thing, they COPIED it themselves. So accusing Kurt of ripping off their music is just stupid jealousy that Kurt was a much better songwriter, singer and much more successful and important to the history of music than these envious fucks will EVER be, despite being a great band themselves.

    • @mikeherrera5302
      @mikeherrera5302 Před 2 měsíci +3

      They didn’t even accuse em. This guy is blowing it way up

    • @sword-and-shield
      @sword-and-shield Před 2 měsíci

      Exactly, but even more important this same thing transcends all forms of art. I want to see the art created by an artist's that hasn't consumed and or been influence or inspired by any art. Can it be done? I'm sure, but lets see what the results are.

    • @musicamateur5432
      @musicamateur5432 Před 2 měsíci

      @@sword-and-shieldI guess go to any preschool. The kids will either try to draw a Disney princess or draw their day to day life. I remember in Elementary school I would just make up the most random shapes I could randomly think of

    • @martineldritch
      @martineldritch Před 2 měsíci

      @@sword-and-shield Impossible but the closest might be The Shaggs?

    • @sword-and-shield
      @sword-and-shield Před 2 měsíci

      ​@@martineldritchThe important question then becomes "How do you know, they had no exposure or influence" bout impossible huh. See even creating your own style of art independent of anything before it lets say, does not mean nothing was influenced, or "stolen" as the whiners would put it, before creating it. The closet thing to REAL stolen art, in music anyway, is cover bands and cover tunes, these hacks are just pure rip off capitalizing on art they didn't create.

  • @JK-je9md
    @JK-je9md Před 20 dny

    I kinda feel the loud quiet loud approach had been around since the early 70s but the pixies are still obviously one of the most influential bands bands of all time but I don’t feel like they originated that approach.

  • @DavidScott-hi4fz
    @DavidScott-hi4fz Před 2 měsíci

    Yep Bowie's Tin Machine was the first to rip off The Pixies. An underrated album for sure.

  • @aneurysmjunkyard
    @aneurysmjunkyard Před 2 měsíci +1

    I think Kurt of the bands he like he really tired to talk them up like melvins. Tad. Pixies. The vassalins. I have learn bands to know though Kurt. And Im happy for that❤❤❤❤

  • @AnonymousAccount514
    @AnonymousAccount514 Před 2 měsíci

    Kurt felt vindicated in his opinion about Kim taking more of a lead based on the success of Cannonball.....its true...its probably the most popular track of that era....cause EVERYONE loves it

  • @dayleebree3255
    @dayleebree3255 Před 2 měsíci

    He loved the breeders . They opened for nirvana.

  • @TravelatorH8r
    @TravelatorH8r Před 2 měsíci +1

    Of course all these Bandz got credit Kurt made sure all his favorite bands that were still around would make good money touring with them the Pixies the Buzzcocks Sonic Youth mark lanegan

  • @Eastcentralstainingco
    @Eastcentralstainingco Před 2 měsíci

    It's funny, you said "and albums like Siamese Dream and Melancholy and the Infinite Sadness" and then you play a track from Gish. At the end of the video I was still unsure what the Pixies wanted Kurt to do. It i had to choose to be in one of the two bands, it would be the Pixies for more reasons Thani can count. Mainly because they weren't hurled into fame at light speed.

  • @H3avyHaul3r
    @H3avyHaul3r Před 2 měsíci

    alot of other bands in the 80s paved the path of grunge….some of those were aussies like Lime Spiders and Huxton Creepers…look them up on CZcams…

  • @jerryperry5242
    @jerryperry5242 Před 2 měsíci

    I think Kurt was merely saying it as a half joke, but also a way to acknowledge that The Pixies are an influence on his music.

  • @Mr.Steve-O
    @Mr.Steve-O Před 2 měsíci

    Nirvana always was a blend of the Beatles, Black Sabbath and Punk rock and we ate it like a bowl of ice cream

  • @Numbchuckilljoy777
    @Numbchuckilljoy777 Před 2 měsíci

    I freaking love the breeders!!

  • @Teekay617
    @Teekay617 Před měsícem

    But Kurt was doing this sound since 88-89 anyway they were Peers. Kurt loved frank black

  • @AnonymousAccount514
    @AnonymousAccount514 Před 2 měsíci

    Radiohead blatently ripped them off also....Jonny Greenwood stated the only reason they branched into electronic music was because they already ripped off all of the Pixies riffs...so they had nothing else to play guitar wise

  • @auralepiphanies4055
    @auralepiphanies4055 Před 2 měsíci

    Because the Pixies blow nirvana out of the water....sure I like bleach and insesticide but I've listened to Pixies 1000s of times. Over and over, even though they directly lifted the gun clubs sound, they were like miles better than most any other band back then. Also the Pixies were just a little early for grunge....I'm glad it went down how it did. Back then that was our music not the worlds, certainly not mainstream thank god.

  • @aunch3
    @aunch3 Před 2 měsíci

    Idk if you can claim to own that style of music it’s fairly common the Pixies may have done well but there were many songs before that had done that

  • @vandolmatzis8146
    @vandolmatzis8146 Před 2 měsíci

    Everybody ripped off the Pixies.even Jim Morrison.

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    @recreatorband Před 2 měsíci +1

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  • @fleadoggreen9062
    @fleadoggreen9062 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Only band kurt ripped off was Boston 😊

  • @MrChristbait
    @MrChristbait Před 2 měsíci

    We all know they did,Kurt was the first to admit it!

  • @altdot4803
    @altdot4803 Před 2 měsíci

    More so Dinosaur Jr

  • @mmmtsp
    @mmmtsp Před 2 měsíci

    No, if the pixies are so amazing why do most people don't care about their music?

  • @cuddlebug8106
    @cuddlebug8106 Před 2 měsíci

    It’s just not punk rock to accuse bands of plagiarism. I mean if you’re punk rock - why would you care?

    • @rafael_raro
      @rafael_raro Před měsícem

      Frank Black seems to have a massive ego.

  • @justintrites1699
    @justintrites1699 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Nirvana was influenced by every other band that came before nirvana

  • @coryhoughton492
    @coryhoughton492 Před 2 měsíci

    It's just "pixies" not "the pixies".

  • @th1agu
    @th1agu Před 2 měsíci

    Kurt Cabain stole so many riffs from so many bands.

  • @MrBeen992
    @MrBeen992 Před 2 měsíci

    It is not a "technique" ....

  • @delcasterline4922
    @delcasterline4922 Před 2 měsíci

    Hundreds of bands paved the way for nirvana, you just have never heard of them. Pixies are equally as derivative but that is OK for punk. It's part of it. It belongs to no one.

  • @ralphhutchinson940
    @ralphhutchinson940 Před 2 měsíci

    Nirvana was a designed band of unknown underground guitarist songs writer. Kurt's ghost songwriter was so good that a paparazzi recording crew illegally recorded the guitarist every day from 1975 to 1993. The ghost guitarist discovered the name Nirvana in a Billboard Magazine and read it to the paparazzi recording crew. The Pixies have nothing to do with Nirvana songs.
    Foo Fighters use the same ghost guitarist songwriter. LIsten to the song Monkey Wrench, it is the ghost guitarist telling his situation with the recording conspiracy. Most hit songs have come from the recording conspiracy guitarist singer. Lady Gaga is a designed act of the ghost guitarist songwriter. Lewis Capaldi song Before You Go is the ghost guitarist song. He was singing his goodbyes to his paparazzi recording crew fact. Taylor Swift did not write Shake It Off the underground guitarist of Nirvana did. Six out ten songs played on the radio are illegally copyrighted from the ghost guitarist of Nirvana.
    The entire Sheryl Crow album Com'on Com'on is by the ghost guitarist. She obtained the songs through the recording conspiracy, a fact she has admitted when she said her songs have a flawed credits background.

  • @AnonymousAccount514
    @AnonymousAccount514 Před 2 měsíci

    damn...dave lovering aged like a mf'er

  • @auroralasheras4192
    @auroralasheras4192 Před 2 měsíci

    Qué estúpidas preguntas, el vídeo sin ellas seria interesante.

  • @stijnbuyst4845
    @stijnbuyst4845 Před 2 měsíci +1

    clueless piece of journalism, this. Also: it's Pixies, not THE Pixies.

  • @IndirectHydrox
    @IndirectHydrox Před 2 měsíci +1

    Judas Priest did it first…

  • @heightenedsenses9605
    @heightenedsenses9605 Před měsícem

    Kurt dodges a bullet when offered to speak to black frances, im not surprised...it would ruin his love for the band and black isn't a nice person. I heard stories that he wouldn't give fans a women an autograph.

  • @mikeherrera5302
    @mikeherrera5302 Před 2 měsíci +1

    The pixies influenced a million bands. This is silly video. Ur hyping a lot outta statements that isn’t there

  • @SPINNINGMYWHEELS777
    @SPINNINGMYWHEELS777 Před 21 dnem

    The riff is a slight re-arrangment of EVIL GROWS by the Poppy Family. Rip off numero uno.

  • @andrewcarroll7641
    @andrewcarroll7641 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Anyone crediting either of these bands (Pixies/Nirvana) with Loud/Quite/Loud ought tune into to some plumbers called Led Zeppelin... and those wankers, The Beatles. They did that too. Pretty sure 1964 came before 1986, but maybe Jennifer Lawerence had something to do with this video....

  • @Devik666
    @Devik666 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Well kurt was a better singer etc 😝😂

  • @slanderbob415
    @slanderbob415 Před 2 měsíci

    unless you write and play music you will never fully understand influenced playing.

  • @RecardoRecardo
    @RecardoRecardo Před 2 měsíci

    Pixies got better songs than nirvana though

  • @johnnyquid-xj4kk
    @johnnyquid-xj4kk Před měsícem

    Hey , you steal from the best, no?

  • @TheLarskoster
    @TheLarskoster Před 2 měsíci

    Complete nonsense... taking so much out of context.

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