When an Actor Is Too Passionate - Edward Norton

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  • čas přidán 16. 05. 2024
  • Edward Norton is a little too passionate. When he burst onto the scene in the 90s with Primal Fear, American History X and Fight Club, you think he'd have very successful career. But things really slowed down since The Incredible Hulk and when you look at the behind the scenes stories you start to see why. Norton walks the fine line between being overly passionate and controlling.
    We'll be looking through Edward Norton's career when he was at his most passionate and controlling. From creating a different cut of a film that made the director denounce Norton in a 35 page ad, to getting kicked out of the MCU for not being very “collaborative”. It's said that Norton often comes to set with rewrites to whatever film he's in, but almost always his changes improve the film.
    Chapters:
    00:00 - Intro
    00:57 - Rise to Fame
    02:31 - American History X
    04:51 - More Controlling Stories
    07:10 - The Incredible Hulk
    09:45 - After Hulk Slowdown
    Edward Norton. Primal Fear. American History X. Fight Club. Brad Pitt. The Incredible Hulk. Bruce Banner. MCU. Red Dragon. Marlon Brando. The Score. Rounders. Tony Kaye. Controlling Actor. On set issues. 90s actor. Frida. The Italian Job. Kevin Feige. Pride and Glory. Oscar nominated. Motherless Brooklyn. Birdman. Wes Anderson. Moonrise Kingdom. The Grand Budapest Hotel. Glass Onion Knives Out.
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  • @downhill2629
    @downhill2629 Před 3 měsíci +1148

    To me, the fact that he has done five movies with Wes Anderson proves that he isn't a control freak, Anderson is one of the most meticulous directors in the world, and every actor he works with talks about the warm and family-feel of his sets. No grouch like Norton supposedly is would work with him again and again.

    • @duckieg420_4
      @duckieg420_4 Před 3 měsíci +136

      It also sounds like Norton can feel out an amateur/weak person and try to wrest control from them and better highlight the ideas brought forth by the producers. So in a way, if you know how you want your actors performing, the sets and moods are perfect and how you want them, etc. you can control Norton because there’s already a Head in charge

    • @leighfoulkes7297
      @leighfoulkes7297 Před 3 měsíci +66

      More like, Wes Anderson is just a great artist that a control freak like Norton feels right at home and in need to assert himself.

    • @m4ttyp4nts
      @m4ttyp4nts Před 3 měsíci +84

      I've heard Bill Murray praise Wes Anderson for always having a clear vision of his films and what needs to be accomplished each day. I'm guessing that in an environment like that, with a true auteur in control, there's no vacuum for Edward Norton to expand into; he can just be an actor.

    • @EphemeralProductions
      @EphemeralProductions Před 3 měsíci +12

      I couldn’t tell he’s meticulous. All of his movies are BIZARRE. I’ve never seen a Wes Anderson film I’ve either understood or liked.

    • @BRILTHY
      @BRILTHY Před 3 měsíci +12

      Wes Anderson is most likely just as meticulous and probably plans out his screenplays in great detail, making the actors jobs a bit easier.

  • @Bingo_the_Pug
    @Bingo_the_Pug Před 2 měsíci +421

    Honestly he dodged a bullet by not continuing as Bruce Banner/Hulk. I can’t imagine him performing in that She-Hulk show like a dancing monkey under Disney’s control

    • @LykeArgy
      @LykeArgy Před 2 měsíci +15

      We dodged another great preformance =( if he was there maybe he'd make sure after Avengers 1 that the rest were actually good ... but oh well

    • @TaxinGigs
      @TaxinGigs Před 2 měsíci +35

      Avengers movies will age like milk. Over saturation of CGI

    • @thegaminggods1937
      @thegaminggods1937 Před 2 měsíci +3

      Agreed so hard, he would leak it and marvel would try to sue him

    • @jeffersonhassan4558
      @jeffersonhassan4558 Před 2 měsíci

      Oh look,the soyboys have arrived

    • @footballtomorrow9343
      @footballtomorrow9343 Před měsícem +1

      given his composure and heightened self-confidence, he would have probably pressed the sceptre down on the ground given once they asked him about doing those horrid dance movies. actors like him should always be appreciated, their respective behaviors encouraged and advocated for, since they not only demonstrate their dignity and passion for acting and content production, but their vehement detest for abhorrent content as well

  • @ThirdEyeScribe
    @ThirdEyeScribe Před 3 měsíci +766

    I had the privilege of meeting Edward Norton and his (then) fiancée at the hotel I worked back in 2012. I got into the elevator and he was standing behind me, his fiancée next to me. I hadn’t seen him yet and his fiancée was eating from a big bag of Smart Popcorn and I joked about how addictive it was. She and Norton laughed and he made a comment. I then turned around I said “you sound just like Edward Nor…” saw it was him then finished “…ton!”. He just gave me that slick smile of his and said “that’s because I am Edward Norton”. We joked around for a couple mins, even talking more outside while his fiancée finished paying the hotel bills. I mentioned how much I loved him in ‘Death to Smoochy’ and especially in ‘The 25th Hour’ and he was shocked because “most people bring up ‘Fight Club’. I asked him how it was working with Spike Lee as he’s one of my favorite directors, etc. He was super cool the whole time, really seemed to enjoy the conversation. I wasn’t like a gushing fanboy or anything like that. I’ve met tons of celebrities through my work and sooo many can be demanding and hectic but Norton was the complete opposite.

    • @DHGxMcFlurry
      @DHGxMcFlurry Před 3 měsíci +53

      That's definitely cool. Some people need to separate how someone acts on set, especially when they can tell the product won't turn out well..And how they act in just normal day to day life with other people

    • @quesovadotas3050
      @quesovadotas3050 Před 3 měsíci +47

      And then everyone clapped

    • @richardbruton1224
      @richardbruton1224 Před 3 měsíci +1

      @@DHGxMcFlurry Doesn't mean they can act like a dick on set. Imagine if your coworker was like that because his day was going badly.

    • @j.peters1222
      @j.peters1222 Před 2 měsíci +20

      Glad you had a positive experience with him. People forget sometimes that actors are human just like the rest of us.

    • @KingC89
      @KingC89 Před 2 měsíci +11

      Then everybody stood up and clapped.

  • @SpencerJ289
    @SpencerJ289 Před 3 měsíci +538

    I’ve always enjoyed Edward Norton. He’s one of those actors that draws you to the screen, and gives it his all every time. I never knew he was so difficult to work with. Kinda sounds more so like he’s just super passionate

    • @14192jn
      @14192jn Před 3 měsíci +8

      That's not just passion, though. That's also ego, self-importance and a feeling of entitlement. For someone to turn up to a project they are lucky to even get in the first place and to turn up and be like "if I'm in this then it goes MY way". Sad, too. Great actor but who would want to be on set with that?

    • @JBlandie
      @JBlandie Před 3 měsíci +10

      ​@@14192jn it's the other way around. You're lucky to have Ed Norton on a project.

    • @14192jn
      @14192jn Před 3 měsíci +6

      @@JBlandie both can be true at the same time.

    • @JBlandie
      @JBlandie Před 3 měsíci +11

      @@14192jn recall from the video that the projects where Norton stepped in and made his voice heard in an assertive manner the end result was a much improved product that received rave reviews. The only thing standing in the way of this track record of improvement is the ego of other actors and the assigned director. Those are the people with the egos, not the person who is selflessly adding content to the writing and not even requesting a co-directorial credit when he improves the cut.
      If the video elucidates the facts about a high value add to a production, I would be blessed to have Edward Norton work on a project with me that he chose to participate in

    • @14192jn
      @14192jn Před 3 měsíci +3

      @JBlandie Nah, they might have worked out well but at then end of the day it is a negative trait to turn up to work and demand the job is done your way because you know better than everyone. That's 100% ego, you're only defending it cause you're bias because you like him as an actor and you're showing celebrity worship.

  • @vb_blokeboi7251
    @vb_blokeboi7251 Před 3 měsíci +435

    Man American History X is one of the best films of all time. I had no idea it was actually Norton's cut and Kaye lost his mind over it. He should be thanking him and Furlong. They both turned in incredibly moving performances and the cut is what makes that film so good; the past in black and white and the present in colour is so prescient and it defines the message of the film. Without some of those familial flashbacks you lose so much character development too.

    • @FilmStack
      @FilmStack  Před 3 měsíci +47

      Agreed! Yeah apparently Kaye’s cost was very loosely put together, didn’t have much structure. More of an art film kind of vibe, where as Norton’s cut made it have an easier to follow along story

    • @reptongeek
      @reptongeek Před 3 měsíci +13

      I actually read an article around the time of the films release and Tony Kaye was dicking around with New Line Cinema quite a bit. I can't remember the details as it was a long time ago

    • @bobbressi5414
      @bobbressi5414 Před 3 měsíci +13

      Kaye seems like the unstable one.

    • @anneominous7172
      @anneominous7172 Před 3 měsíci +6

      A brilliant performance from Norton, no mistake - but it absolutely would have been a better, more powerful film with its original ending.

    • @nl3064
      @nl3064 Před 3 měsíci +5

      @vb_blokeboi7251 ...something tells me you haven't watched enough movies to make that claim. American History X is literally one of those basic cable showings that people think is good when they haven't actually seen anything.

  • @Joecbg100
    @Joecbg100 Před 3 měsíci +259

    I can't hate someone like him even if it's a thin line between control and passion. He's still an incredible actor.

  • @crashburn3292
    @crashburn3292 Před 3 měsíci +205

    Norton's come out performance in Primal Fear has to rank among the all-time best in motion pictures. It blows me away every time I watch that movie.

    • @6tiple6ix6afia
      @6tiple6ix6afia Před 3 měsíci +6

      It's funny because that movie js considered to be rather lackluster, and yet I agree, Norton is acting circles around multiple established legends in the industry.

    • @jesseowenvillamor6348
      @jesseowenvillamor6348 Před 3 měsíci

      ​@@6tiple6ix6afia It's a very good movie.

    • @aWomanFreed
      @aWomanFreed Před 2 měsíci +9

      He carried that film….his performance made the plot twist possible/believable.

    • @Borkeman06
      @Borkeman06 Před 2 měsíci

      Cool twist in that movie I remember seeing it in cinema

    • @toolatetothestory
      @toolatetothestory Před 2 měsíci

      He absolute owned that movie. It's just his.
      And Richard Gere is by no means a bad actor, but Edward just stole the show.

  • @justinyates5558
    @justinyates5558 Před 3 měsíci +137

    Honestly my favorite movie he was in was the Illusionist, which got overlooked because of the Prestige. I hope he gets more work as a script writer because that seems to be where he thrives with the writing AND performance.

    • @FilmStack
      @FilmStack  Před 3 měsíci +9

      Yeah such an unfortunate coincidence that those two movies released so close to each other. Came at a time where he needed a hit the most. I wouldn’t be surprised if he’s working on another film of his right now. He has the funds to produce one and he seems to really care about the art of film more than the monetary aspect of it

    • @6tiple6ix6afia
      @6tiple6ix6afia Před 3 měsíci +3

      That is super disingenuous. You have every right to love that movie, but it would not have been well received no matter what happened with The Prestige. If it sucked, or never came out, even if Christian Bale looked at the camera and said "BY THE WAY GO SEE THE ILLUSIONIST!" the movie would have remained average, if not below average.

    • @jesseowenvillamor6348
      @jesseowenvillamor6348 Před 3 měsíci +6

      ​@@6tiple6ix6afia Nah. The Illusionist is a very good movie.

    • @toolatetothestory
      @toolatetothestory Před 2 měsíci +3

      Both Prestige and Illusionist were great movies, love them both.

    • @ciri_riannon235
      @ciri_riannon235 Před měsícem +3

      Same, I love that movie. The score is amazing, Edward Norton, Paul Giamatti and Rufus Sewell are phenomenal in it.

  • @SairajRKamath
    @SairajRKamath Před 3 měsíci +166

    Norton's Hulk movie is a masterpiece compared to the nerfed Hulk we have right now.

    • @KasumiKenshirou
      @KasumiKenshirou Před 3 měsíci +25

      💯 Norton was definitely the better Hulk.

    • @whatzittooya98
      @whatzittooya98 Před 3 měsíci +5

      facts, he was so good as bruce banner and his Hulk is still the best one we've seen

    • @6tiple6ix6afia
      @6tiple6ix6afia Před 3 měsíci +6

      Gotta love revisionist film history. That movie fucking SUUUUUCKS and it was one of Norton's ONLY bland outings.

    • @matthewtrauger3683
      @matthewtrauger3683 Před 3 měsíci +1

      ​@whatzittooya98 the Bruce Banner from the TV show is better than Norton's bland Hulk. How many Hulk comics have you actually read? My guess would be zero

    • @jesseowenvillamor6348
      @jesseowenvillamor6348 Před 3 měsíci +10

      ​@@6tiple6ix6afiaNah. The Incredible Hulk is a very good movie.

  • @patanouketgersiflet9486
    @patanouketgersiflet9486 Před 3 měsíci +102

    It's a pity having glossed over The 25th hour, cause man is this movie an absolute gem, and Norton stellar in it. His best performance in my book.

    • @mongolianqwerty123
      @mongolianqwerty123 Před 3 měsíci +4

      Absolutely. The cast is stacked! Barry Pepper, Philip Seymour Hoffman, Brian Cox and Anna Paquin all do great work in it. 25th Hour is quietly one of the best films of the 2000's

    • @ninjanibba4259
      @ninjanibba4259 Před 3 měsíci +2

      That movie was the 2nd movie I saw with him, before that it was Incredible Hulk
      Even back 12-14, I saw how great as an actor he was

    • @patanouketgersiflet9486
      @patanouketgersiflet9486 Před 3 měsíci +3

      @@mongolianqwerty123 Stellar cast indeed. Plus Lee's directing is top notch, the story is gripping and the sountrack rocks. Absolutely agree, one of the best movies of that decade, hands down.
      For some reason, Sidney Lumet's Before the devil knows you're dead is quite reminiscent of The 25th hour, if you enjoyed that one, you could very well end up liking Lumet's last movie.

    • @milanaisms
      @milanaisms Před 3 měsíci +3

      I rarely see anyone mention Before The Devil Knows You’re Sleep; it’s a brilliant movie and Ethan Hawke’s performance is superb (of course Phillip Seymour-Hoffman too)

    • @blu3622
      @blu3622 Před 3 měsíci +3

      Agreed. The 25th Hour was one of those movies that resonated with me and truly captured how it felt in a post 9/11 NYC.

  • @Neuro13
    @Neuro13 Před 3 měsíci +21

    In my opinion Norton should just move on to directing his own films, that way he can have full control over his own projects.

  • @AA-lq5pu
    @AA-lq5pu Před 2 měsíci +18

    I remember the first time I saw Edward Norton in a role. I was visibly shaken to my core. No one had had that type of effect on me before.

  • @korbindallas8224
    @korbindallas8224 Před 3 měsíci +37

    Ending every single sentence with that same note is really tough to listen to for longer than a few minutes

    • @jimbarrett5462
      @jimbarrett5462 Před 3 měsíci +10

      @korbindallas8224 - THANK YOU! I was scrolling through these comments looking for anyone else that felt the same way. There is no self awareness or control whatsoever in their inflection. It’s constant gas, no brakes.

    • @thatguymatt5816
      @thatguymatt5816 Před 2 měsíci +11

      Oh god, now that you said it I can’t stop hearing it. It’s killing me

    • @AlyssMa7rin
      @AlyssMa7rin Před 2 měsíci +5

      I didn't even notice until you brought it up.

    • @dmstewart66
      @dmstewart66 Před 2 měsíci +1

      lol hey, at least his sentences are in key

  • @6tiple6ix6afia
    @6tiple6ix6afia Před 3 měsíci +25

    American History X was the first Norton film I ever watched, and I actually was convinced that he was a legitimate tough badass. If you know anything about Edward Norton's personality in real life, you begin to understand why making you believe he is a tough guy is a perfect example of hlw insanely talented he is as an actor.

  • @chokingmessiah
    @chokingmessiah Před 2 měsíci +52

    Norton "just okay" in Rounders? His performance is one of the reasons I continually return to that film.

    • @swaymcthunder1219
      @swaymcthunder1219 Před 2 měsíci +17

      Some people cant tell the difference between playing an annoying character and bad acting. Norton was great in rounders. That just ok annoyed me as well.

    • @TaxinGigs
      @TaxinGigs Před 2 měsíci +7

      Yeah Norton was fantastic in Rounders.

    • @entheo302
      @entheo302 Před 2 měsíci

      Yeah it’s not even an amazing film, but his acting in it makes me come back to it time and time again

    • @apodipl4596
      @apodipl4596 Před měsícem +2

      I really hated Norton's character "worm" in the Rounders. Which just shows how great actor he is. He was the best actor in the movie and the movie had Turturo and Malkovich who are both brilliant (+Matt Damon) +Martin Landau

    • @TaxinGigs
      @TaxinGigs Před měsícem

      @@apodipl4596 100 percent correct. You just want to punch him in his ribs like 7 different times in that movie. He performed exceptionally.

  • @milesteg8183
    @milesteg8183 Před měsícem +3

    His best role is in Kingdom of Heaven as King Baldwin. Never see his face but his dialogue is exquisite.

    • @ludiaraxi2881
      @ludiaraxi2881 Před měsícem +1

      So so so true. He nailed that role. 💯🔥

  • @daboos6353
    @daboos6353 Před 2 měsíci +26

    He's not a control freak, he's a super smart guy who knows how to improve what he's working on. He's been on a bunch of great films that he hasn't changed because they were already great.

    • @acutecloudd7970
      @acutecloudd7970 Před 27 dny +2

      You can admire someone and also admit they have faults. Love edward norton but his fans are celeb worshipers

  • @turkeyman631
    @turkeyman631 Před 2 měsíci +8

    When someone continually done what he has done and continually gets it right, I'd call it more of being meticulous and caring than controlling.

  • @equanimity92
    @equanimity92 Před 3 měsíci +39

    3:50 hearing that American History X was almost directed by Humpty Dumpty is probably my favourite sentence/fact of all time 😂😂😂

  • @SelfishFew
    @SelfishFew Před 2 měsíci +10

    Never confuse being an asshole with "passion".

  • @bluechalk6275
    @bluechalk6275 Před 3 měsíci +47

    Tony Kaye seems a bit...intense

    • @jegr3398
      @jegr3398 Před 3 měsíci +5

      Yeah he needs to relax. What a complete lunatic.

    • @j.peters1222
      @j.peters1222 Před 2 měsíci +1

      Yeah...He needs to chill the f*ck out lol

    • @P1CKL3_RICK
      @P1CKL3_RICK Před 2 měsíci +2

      he just got outdone and was utterly seething over it lol, guess that's what happens when you're a sore loser

  • @AlkonKomm
    @AlkonKomm Před 3 měsíci +59

    Norton is a great actor with a very consistent performance that starred in a lot of mid movies. how about Sam Rockwell next? freaking love that guy

    • @FilmStack
      @FilmStack  Před 3 měsíci +18

      Oh that’s be a good idea! Probably one of the most underrated modern actors

    • @Thechairman04
      @Thechairman04 Před 3 měsíci +1

      FIght Club, Primal Fear, 25th Hour, Rounders and Birdman are decidedly not mid movies that I would put up against most actors top 5.

    • @perryjones7771
      @perryjones7771 Před 3 měsíci +2

      @@FilmStackhim and Allison Janney and Toni Collette.

  • @0749Rockystar
    @0749Rockystar Před 3 měsíci +18

    Edward Nortons Hulk is the best version. I remember watching The Avengers in theaters and saying out loud "Who the fuck is that guy?". When Mark Ruffalo showed up.

    • @andyyl6942
      @andyyl6942 Před 2 měsíci +2

      Lol I feel that honestly but Mark is a good actor and he's been in some of my favorite movies, most notably he plays a large part in "Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless mind" I would've loved to see Norton's hulk meet the rest of the avengers though.

  • @carllyngholm5568
    @carllyngholm5568 Před 3 měsíci +26

    I thought Norton killed that part in "Rounders", it was substantially better than "just ok" imo...

    • @alextj7940
      @alextj7940 Před 3 měsíci +3

      I was looking for a comment like this, edward norton played the character worm so perfectly

    • @blu3622
      @blu3622 Před 3 měsíci +1

      Seriously, I felt compelled to comment on that as well. Edward Norton and John Malkovich were both great in Rounders.

    • @swaymcthunder1219
      @swaymcthunder1219 Před 2 měsíci

      @@alextj7940 I was looking for this comment as well, it actually aggravated me quite a bit. I hate when people find a character annoying, and then blame it on the actor saying he/ she wasnt very good. His character wasnt meant to be liked, and i thought he was fantastic as well.

  • @mikeoppart
    @mikeoppart Před měsícem +4

    Don't forget his uncredited role in Kingdom of Heaven which is an amazing performance that made the film memorable.

    • @ludiaraxi2881
      @ludiaraxi2881 Před měsícem +1

      SAY IT LOUDER FOR THE PEOPLE IN THE BACK! 🗣️🔥🔥🔥💯💯☝️☝️

  • @jessenunez7205
    @jessenunez7205 Před 2 měsíci +7

    Norton is just passionate imo. The fact he changed the Hulk script and it’s one of my favorite movies of all time shows the potential he could’ve brought the MCU. He cares about a good story, not what sells and makes money. Money is important but the man values integrity which is far more admirable than riches

  • @ElvisRose_
    @ElvisRose_ Před 2 měsíci +5

    Keeping The Faith is such an underrated cleverly written witty romantic comedy and one that I regularly watch when I need a good laugh. Edward Norton is a fabulous actor. Primal Fear is still one of the best acting performances in a film debut for any actor I've ever seen. I don't know anyone who doesn't love Edward Norton.

  • @shinigamiauthor
    @shinigamiauthor Před 29 dny +1

    I love Nortons work. Even movies I otherwise would find uninteresting, he elevates every single one of them

  • @WarioSaysSo
    @WarioSaysSo Před 2 měsíci +6

    Edward Norton is a great actor, a very passionated actor for his works he takes on. All his roles are iconic.
    I will never-ever change my mind on him being better Bruce Banner/The Hulk then what whiny Mark Ruffalo ever could be. I know there was some conflicts that made him walk away, but what I have seen Norton was the one who was right on the money (!). He knew the character & comics and wanted to make the movie focus more on Dr. Bruce Banners struggles and inner demons in that movie. How Banner was chased by the Army all the time and how his struggle for a cure always failed. How his love life with Betty Ross was shattered and how they both suffered from this. The Hulk should then in a follow-up be more the dominant one seen on screen and now more accepting his fate and role as the Incredible Hulk, at the same time new mutant enemies like the Leader, Absorbing Man etc. enters the sceen to be battled.

  • @91MoonKnight
    @91MoonKnight Před 3 měsíci +16

    I like Edward Norton as Banner and the Hulk. The Incredible Hulk movie has a version of the Hulk which is better than the version of the Hulk and Banner we're getting recently.

  • @leighfoulkes7297
    @leighfoulkes7297 Před 3 měsíci +6

    Edward Norton was such a great addiction to the world of Wes Anderson, fits perfectly in it. Definitely one of my favorite actors in late 20th to 21st century.

  • @levi6801
    @levi6801 Před 3 měsíci +15

    One of the greatest actors of all time!

  • @GobelZachuration11
    @GobelZachuration11 Před 2 měsíci +3

    I've always wondered why I felt so connected to the guy and now it makes sense... I miss the days when it seemed he was in everything or that any movie I liked he was in it...but... that's kinda what makes his work special is that he prefers the passion projects. I understand not wanting to be a part of something if you cant have your hands in the control of it... it's a blessing and a curse. So much for collaborations and ensembles...
    And you have to respect the fact he isnt a part of the MCU..maybe he wishes he could have been a part of film history but he Probably would have lost himself in the shuffle...lost who he truly is being surrounded by such powerhouses in the marvel movies. Hell I even wish Terrence Howard didnt leave marvel ...I much preferred him as war machine.
    And we will always have the big what if...if Norton would have stayed the hulk...him and Robert Downey jr. Together on screen would have been fucking great.
    But this video really made me like the guy even more knowing that passion can complicate things yet he has other areas in life to direct that passion. We need more norton's in this world and I hope to see him in future projects

  • @rosscampbell1173
    @rosscampbell1173 Před 2 měsíci +3

    They glossed over his lineage. He’s the grandson of James Rouse, who wasn’t just a developer but created the town of Columbia Maryland, to make the ideal American town, and it’s 15% more expensive than the surrounding area. He invented the term “urban renewal”.

  • @AlkisenSuper
    @AlkisenSuper Před 3 měsíci +11

    His performance in Rounders was "just okay"? Did we watch the same movie?

  • @chrisberg5964
    @chrisberg5964 Před 3 měsíci +31

    Did you just say Robert de Nire wasn't handsome? 😂

    • @FiveSigma72
      @FiveSigma72 Před 3 měsíci +4

      He's not someone you immediately think of as handsome in a leading man sense, even back in the day when he had a completely different face. He would never have had a career based solely on his looks, like a lot of actors have had. Clint Eastwood for example....zero acting range whatsoever, played the exact same part spanning decades and genres, but y'know, he was good at it and that's fine. I totally get why they would say that.

    • @bagel1612
      @bagel1612 Před 3 měsíci +3

      Noooaooooooo Robert de niro is my ultimate crush ❤😂

    • @lavasharkflowers
      @lavasharkflowers Před 2 měsíci +1

      Dude that's exactly what I thought 😂

  • @brandonryder5873
    @brandonryder5873 Před 3 měsíci +3

    I really like Kingdom of Heaven but had no idea Norton played the king. No wonder it's a good character.

  • @DesertDawg-oq5fg
    @DesertDawg-oq5fg Před 2 měsíci +3

    Fun fact: Edward Norton’s acting partner at Yale was Paul Giamati (whose father was the President of Yale)

  • @bettyblu8115
    @bettyblu8115 Před měsícem +1

    The character Norton played so well in Birdman is a strong indicator of both his sense of humour and self-deprecation. I though Motherless Brooklyn was a great adaptation, a brilliant film and very underappreciated.

  • @Grandmaster-Kush
    @Grandmaster-Kush Před 3 měsíci +12

    He's really great in so many diverse roles didn't know he was the adult embodiment of the kid that always sticks after class to ask about homework haha

  • @uzetaab
    @uzetaab Před 3 měsíci +3

    Another great video, thanks!

  • @jdcaprio2000
    @jdcaprio2000 Před 3 měsíci +2

    You can tell by Edward Norton's different kind of role he had which has proven how talented and brilliant actor he is,unlike some of other actors out there who have similar and stereotypes kind of role which is predictable.
    So imagine while he's working behind the scenes.

  • @skystryker2037
    @skystryker2037 Před 7 dny +1

    Calling him a “control-freak” is one perspective, but another way to look at it is that he was more concerned about making sure the movie is actually good, whereas the writers had hurt egos because they were afraid of losing their credit 🤷‍♂️

  • @mrjagrown
    @mrjagrown Před 3 měsíci +4

    What's interesting is that I've never once thought of who directed American history x, and I love that movie.

  • @artoisr2
    @artoisr2 Před 3 měsíci +7

    Wonder why he isn't on Kingdom of Heaven's credits as King Baldwin. He was the best character in that gem of a movie by far.

    • @Adlore
      @Adlore Před 3 měsíci

      He's fantastic in it. Might have something with never seeing the face

    • @minecrafttroller1000
      @minecrafttroller1000 Před 3 měsíci

      He said he didn’t want to be in the credits to add a bit of mystery and to give more credit to the other actors in the film if I remember correctly. If you watch any video essays on the movie nearly all of them say the reason behind it

    • @ludiaraxi2881
      @ludiaraxi2881 Před měsícem

      Frfr. I was shocked when i learned he played the role of King Baldwin. I loved his performance sm

  • @iantburrell
    @iantburrell Před měsícem +1

    Imo, Motherless Brooklyn is WILDLY underrated. To some degree, I can understand the complaints about its length, but I was so absorbed the entire time. There was clearly a vision in mind, and I think Norton executed it so well. Not to mention that we got a masterpiece of a song out of it all by Thom Yorke, "Daily Battles." One of the very few songs written for a film nowadays that I've played since watching the film.

  • @Suedetussy
    @Suedetussy Před 2 měsíci +2

    Even if he was very passionate and often enough has improved a movie with his changes, i think everyone should stick to their role. I see it as overstepping other people’s boundaries.
    If he knows better than the director or script writer, then he should start out as a director or writer instead of as an actor.

    • @channel45853
      @channel45853 Před měsícem +1

      exactly

    • @jenniferb.awesome
      @jenniferb.awesome Před měsícem +1

      That's exactly how I feel too. Everyone is saying he's just "passionate" but it seems more like ego. To walk on to a set as an actor and instantly think he will just start taking over other people's jobs and demanding they do things his way seems more like arrogance than passion.

  • @TheSavageBountyHunter
    @TheSavageBountyHunter Před 2 měsíci +2

    Control freak or not .
    He is my favorite actor ❤
    Also.. his hulk is the best

  • @NoNameNo.5
    @NoNameNo.5 Před 2 měsíci +3

    Death to Smoochy is an underrated unsung masterpiece….robin Williams is hilarious

  • @eatdrinkwineguy
    @eatdrinkwineguy Před 3 měsíci +2

    He’s such a great actor. I’ll watch anything he is in and I think there are only 2 o 3 movies I haven’t seen of his. Everyone approaches their art differently. Sometime it works, sometimes it doesn’t. I think it’s totally fair if actors or directors don’t want to work with him. So be it.

  • @seancroft7939
    @seancroft7939 Před 3 měsíci +1

    I didn't go to film school but American History X feels like a perfect film in regards to pacing, and editing. It goes back and forth in time it goes from color to Black and White (but it's not distracting distracting). Showing an incomplete seen interjected throughout the film until it is shown in completion.And the payoff. Both horrific and disturbing but that build up makes sure the importance of the scene is not disregarded. The Hulk was fast-paced.. it's not trying to waste time anywhere showing an origin that's already been shown or.. and I appreciate that it pays homage to Bill Bixby, and Lou Ferrigno. And I think he's the only one that did! He seems like somebody that would be cocky and hard to work with but he also seems very competent. He was great in Red Dragon. He had an edge to him.. primal fear blew me away! It's too bad it's the movie goers loss at the end of the day.

  • @redmustangredmustang
    @redmustangredmustang Před 3 měsíci +3

    The thing is when you are too difficult to work with, you know the saying perception is reality. If you are unworkable with others, studios are going to stay away from you. They don't want that mess causing production delays which means time is money. So you get blackballed. Getting blackballed takes years go ask Brendan Fraiser who that went. It years for him to get back into the starting roll and when he finally did, it paid off. For Edward it might take years for him to get back into a main role.

  • @VividhKothari-rd5ll
    @VividhKothari-rd5ll Před 2 měsíci

    That’s incredible! It got me thinking about that movie, ‘Birdman.’ You know, the one where he played a role pretty similar to his real-life self? Makes me wonder what went down during filming.
    Must be hard for the crew to tell when he is in character and when's not, lol
    EDIT: I wrote this before watching the last part of the video where you did mention Birdman.

  • @alexplorer
    @alexplorer Před 3 měsíci +2

    Lots of parallels between him and Bill Murray. I recently read someone relate a behind-the-scenes story of Murray being a nightmare and exasperating a co-star, but the director basically said, "Yeah, it's going to be rough, but this always happens, and the project always comes out better." Similarly, Murray wouldn't collaborate if he thought the project wasn't up to his standards (hence, no Ghostbusters III; he reportedly shredded a script sent to him and mailed it back in that form). Both Murray and Norton are big Wes Anderson regulars as well. Unlike others in that circle (e.g., Willem Dafoe, Angelica Huston, Jeff Goldblum) who don't work on every film, Murray was in 9 consecutive projects with Wes (i.e., all except his first film and most recent film); Norton has been in the last 5 consecutive projects. It's possible to be both unprofessional and exceed in your profession at the same time, although if probably helps if you're only working with people who know how to channel your talent and yield to the right ideas. Wes seems to be able to do that. Personally, I enjoy Murray and Norton's work, but I wouldn't want to be on a project with either.

  • @notthegreatestdetective
    @notthegreatestdetective Před 3 měsíci +4

    i'm afraid to say anything even remotely unflattering as to avoid ruffling any feathers, don't want to fight or argue with anyone, not saying i haven't enjoyed some of the films he's been in at one point or another, just, i wouldn't want to work with him myself were i an actor or director etc., passion might seem great but it can be alot to handle for someone like me

    • @FiveSigma72
      @FiveSigma72 Před 3 měsíci

      I dunno I hear ya, but part of me would kind of feel good knowing there was someone with immense talent and drive doing their best to make a success out of a project, once he's committed to it. Would be different if it were "my baby", so to speak...someone coming in and making changes etc would feel awful no doubt, but at least with Mr Norton I get the feeling it would not be about ego, but the best outcome for the movie. I think ideally you would want him involved from the ground up, honing a script in a collaborative way, fully understanding what he brings to the table.

    • @notthegreatestdetective
      @notthegreatestdetective Před 3 měsíci

      i get that, i see what you're saying, i guess i just fear he isn't doing it without ego involved, or without disrespecting those he works with, even for the sake of the project, its like how Mike Meyers supposedly is really good at ideas but can be difficult to work with@@FiveSigma72

  • @calebfoster7148
    @calebfoster7148 Před 3 měsíci +4

    He fit the character of Hulk way better than Ruffalo does. Thank goodness Disney decided to assassinate Hulk's characters so that he can fit Mark Ruffalo better

    • @petermj1098
      @petermj1098 Před 3 měsíci +2

      Eh Norton would have made a better Reed Richards imo. He looks more like Reed Richards and he is a passionate and obsessed with filmmaking like Reed is a passionate and obsessed Richards is with science.

  • @MyOwnPersonalFantasy
    @MyOwnPersonalFantasy Před měsícem +3

    Robert De Niro not being a handsome man? Holy shit. Hollywood is brutal. Lol😂

  • @ChohanKnight
    @ChohanKnight Před 3 měsíci +15

    Norton's passion is sadly his own curse

  • @brad6576
    @brad6576 Před 2 měsíci +2

    I always thought that Ed Norton and John Cusack should play brothers in a movie.

  • @lowlowseesee
    @lowlowseesee Před 3 měsíci

    The activism visual towards the end Lolol American history terror juxtaposition well done

  • @DrCheeks
    @DrCheeks Před měsícem +2

    Apparently Kaye’s version of the film was edited like a music video and was not coherent. Also, watching some of his actions and speech, he seems really unstable

  • @halloweenlady4073
    @halloweenlady4073 Před 3 měsíci +4

    Seems like for the most part the more control he gets the better the movie is. They might be the ones with the ego issues.

  • @uzetaab
    @uzetaab Před 3 měsíci

    I have a question that might make a good topic for one of your videos. Where did iconic music start? People often refer to movies from the 70s and 80s, like Superman, Star Wars, Jaws and Indiana Jones. The only older iconic sound that comes to mind is the "Rrrttt, Rrrttt, Rrrttt" from the knife scene in Psycho. Were Full Orchestras a thing before these movies? Who started it? Who Perfected it? Is John Williams the greatest movie composer ever?

  • @alphadog1961
    @alphadog1961 Před 2 měsíci

    One of my Favourite Actors.His movies are usually as good as they are because of his acting.

  • @Kruppt808
    @Kruppt808 Před 3 měsíci +2

    Two of my favorite actors of all time, Edward Norton and Michael Pitt. Is it a coincidence they both can be...... difficult to work with?
    :P

  • @user-ic7cx4ox2m
    @user-ic7cx4ox2m Před 3 měsíci

    I’ve always loved Edward Norton. I wish he was in more films.

  • @GustavoSilva-ny8jc
    @GustavoSilva-ny8jc Před 3 měsíci +2

    4:59 WHAAAAAAT????? That's outrageous

  • @bobthebear1246
    @bobthebear1246 Před měsícem

    He's still an amazing actor, definitely the best male actor of my generation without a doubt. As much as I loved Cuba Gooding Jr. I really thought that Edward Norton deserved that Best Supporting Actor Oscar more.

  • @blainmoney6948
    @blainmoney6948 Před 28 dny

    Besides Gary Oldman Edward Norton is my favorite actor. Whatever behavior he has behind the scenes translates well. Hes a hell of an actor

  • @chrisdavidson3015
    @chrisdavidson3015 Před 2 měsíci

    Edward norton grew up in the same area in maryland that I did/do and graduated from a rival high school of mine (wilde lake vs atholton 😠😂) And a road that i always take to go to the mall in columbia is named after his relative (rouse parkway). My closest connection to celebrity lol

  • @ProductBasement
    @ProductBasement Před 2 měsíci +3

    I might have cared about the Avengers movies if he kept playing the Hulk

  • @TC-dx3vv
    @TC-dx3vv Před 2 měsíci +1

    I liked him in "Rounders" and thought he was good and compelling as Worm. Also I would like to see him and Ryan Eggold co-starring in something sometime. There is an age gap there - maybe uncle and nephew or mentor and mentee etc. Eggold (especially in "The Blacklist") reminded me a lot of young Norton.

  • @davidsweeney7837
    @davidsweeney7837 Před měsícem

    I love ed Norton, great actor overdue recognition. Plus I’m a Wes Anderson nerd too

  • @leticiapalomino5319
    @leticiapalomino5319 Před 3 měsíci +4

    I love him.

  • @matttyrer1445
    @matttyrer1445 Před 7 dny

    None of us are perfect, well done to finish on his positives.

  • @zovalentine7305
    @zovalentine7305 Před 3 měsíci +3

    ❤ Edward Norton ❤
    🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟

  • @user-dh2iz7ew7t
    @user-dh2iz7ew7t Před 2 měsíci +1

    I would love to meet Edward Norton one day

  • @SirGrit
    @SirGrit Před 3 měsíci +1

    Questioning his madness while ignoring his methods, about sums up his career.

  • @Jasonmakesvideo
    @Jasonmakesvideo Před 2 měsíci

    my favorite actor and a fellow baltimoron

  • @j.peters1222
    @j.peters1222 Před 2 měsíci

    I like Edward Norton as an actor. You know that no matter what project he is in, he will put in a great performance.

  • @edwardduarte7393
    @edwardduarte7393 Před 3 měsíci +2

    Ed and I have the same birthday. Yeah!! Frida was made cause Ed was behind it. American History X is a masterpiece. Primal Fear ending? Wow.

  • @VerveQuest72
    @VerveQuest72 Před 3 měsíci +2

    When your main critics are Kaye, Feige, Nolte, and Voigt, id think that says alot

  • @aWomanFreed
    @aWomanFreed Před 2 měsíci

    He was awesome in Birdman, along with all his other roles

  • @shackaboum
    @shackaboum Před 3 měsíci

    edward norton is great at playing assholes. It's a joy to watch him so I trust his judgement. remember that a director and a actor have very different approaches to tge project, merely due to the fact that they have to keep track of completely different things. To even have an actor who cares so much abt delivering a realistic performance that he suggests changes is a blessing. And usually, as a director, you should listen since he has observed the character way more than you did.

  • @redtrinitygirl
    @redtrinitygirl Před 3 měsíci +1

    I love him as a actor!!

  • @keepitprivate91
    @keepitprivate91 Před 3 měsíci

    Always was a huge fan of his version of the Hulk/Banner

  • @joseluki
    @joseluki Před 2 měsíci +1

    There is a reason why you do not see him much anymore. Because directors are not for leaving an actor hijack their film.

  • @enmunap
    @enmunap Před 3 měsíci +3

    He looks good though 😭

  • @sebastianalegria3401
    @sebastianalegria3401 Před 2 měsíci +1

    If we talk about difficult actors, Edward isn't the one, we have also the case of Marlon Brando, who was known for being a difficult actor on set. In fact, he never remembered his lines, so they had to write them on a board behind the camera, while Brando was acting, besides Marlon is the Maradona of acting, who raised several actors between them the own Edward. So, that's why he is who he is.

  • @Mrkti
    @Mrkti Před 3 měsíci +3

    This felt a lot like you want to praise him, despite him being horrible to be around, at least professionally.

  • @waillachab284
    @waillachab284 Před 3 měsíci +1

    One of the best actors ever

  • @powerbar1981
    @powerbar1981 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Sometimes it is hard to believe that Norton got kicked out from MCU despite he made the Hulk Movie a masterpiece that exactly the same as previous Hulk original movie life but added a comics hulk angry image more reach to what I used to fantasize it during my younger age in 90s. Can't blame him for being passionate with his works as an actor who tries to delivering the best like American X.
    Sadly to see Hulk later after being removed from MCU turning into just made fun by She-Hulk sister who show she is far stronger and far better controlling anger in just less episode than Hulk struggles to control anger since 1962 debuted.

  • @ridho_act
    @ridho_act Před měsícem

    I would love to see what would he changes in modern marvel movies

  • @jessickalush3305
    @jessickalush3305 Před 2 měsíci +1

    "Not actually 8 here"🤣

  • @MrTrueCaller619
    @MrTrueCaller619 Před měsícem +1

    Hollywood is way too toxic for a guy like Ed Norton

  • @TomWyker
    @TomWyker Před 3 měsíci

    Always thought of him as my generations Rober DeNiro

  • @TheAstrologyPodcast
    @TheAstrologyPodcast Před 3 měsíci

    Whatever tendencies he may have had, if he was the reason the final cut of American History X turned out like it did, then anything else that happened can be forgiven.

  • @Gobble_de_Goop
    @Gobble_de_Goop Před 2 měsíci

    Death to Smoochy is an underrated Edward Norton classic!!!

  • @thewhitewolf58
    @thewhitewolf58 Před 3 měsíci +3

    Hollywood diva: IM SO FUCKING GLAD THAT I QUIT BECAUSE YOU CAN'T FIRE ME IF I CAN'T BE HIRED IN THE FIRST PLACE!!!

  • @GustavoSilva-ny8jc
    @GustavoSilva-ny8jc Před 3 měsíci

    0:43 Oh wow, some Sam Jackson and Tarantino moment. I wish i could see him try to pull that of with Q.