When The Supreme Court Tried to Prevent Indian Removal | Worcester v. Georgia

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  • čas přidán 5. 04. 2018
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    In episode 30 of Supreme Court Briefs, the Supreme Court makes an important ruling, and the state of Georgia and Andrew Jackson completely ignore it.
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    Georgia
    The 1820s
    The Cherokee Nation, which held territory within Georgia’s borders, as well as in North Carolina, Alabama, and Tennessee, is threatened by the increasing amount of Americans who were trespassing and wanting to straight up take over their land. Georgia governor George Gilmer, as well as most of the Georgia legislature, made it very clear they wanted the Cherokee out of the state.
    In 1827, the Cherokee Nation formally established a constitutional government and declared themselves sovereign, meaning American laws didn’t apply to them. This, of course, angered governor Gilmer and the legislature, and they annexed all Cherokee land in the state, dismantled the Cherokee government, and redistributed much of their land to white citizens.
    Not only that, but three years later Congress passed and President Andrew Jackson signed the Indian Removal Act, which gave the President the power to negotiate treaties to remove Native Americans from their lands.
    While all of this was going on, white missionaries were working with the Cherokee Nation to help them defend their sovereignty and continue to resist the Georgia laws that was kicking them off their own land. The Georgia legislature didn’t like this so much, so they passed a law that specifically banned “white persons” from living with the Cherokee without special permission from the state.
    But several of these missionaries were rebels, you could say- they refused to leave. Two of them who refused to leave were Elizur Butler, a doctor from Connecticut, and Samuel Worcester,a minister from Vermont. Local authorities arrested Butler and Worcester for “residing within the limits of the Cherokee nation without a license” and “without having taken the oath to support and defend the constitution and laws of the state of Georgia.” They were convicted and sentenced to hard labor for 4 years as punishment.
    Worcester and Butler appealed the decision with the help of lawyers paid for by the Cherokee Nation, and their case ended up going to the Supreme Court. The Court heard arguments in February 1832. Worcester and Butler’s main argument was that the government of Georgia, by making laws that allowed it to force the Cherokee Nation to do whatever it said, was unconstitutional because only Congress could make treaties and deals with Indian tribes.
    On March 3, 1832, the Supreme Court announced it had sided with Worcester and Butler, voting 5-1 in their favor. Chief Justice John Marshall, aka “Lil’ John,” delivered the opinion. He argued the Georgia law was unconstitutional and got in the way of the federal government's authority. He said, "The Cherokee nation, then, is a distinct community occupying its own territory in which the laws of Georgia can have no force. The whole intercourse between the United States and this nation, is, by our constitution and laws, vested in the government of the United States." In other words, he recognized the Cherokee as an independent nation. Georgia couldn’t pass laws controlling Spain or France, so why could they pass laws controlling the Cherokee?
    So what did Georgia do in response to this decision? They ignored it. And Worcester and Butler stayed imprisoned. And President Andrew Jackson didn’t force Georgia to follow the Supreme Court decision, and instead said the Cherokee Nation better get out of Georgia or fall in line with their laws. Eventually Worcester and Butler were freed from prison only after they promised to stop helping the Cherokee resist the Georgia laws. In 1835, a faction of Cherokees broke away and secretly signed the Treaty of New Echota, which gave up Cherokee lands in Georgia in exchange for money. This group claimed to be representing all of the Cherokee, but they were not. In 1838, the U.S. Army forced almost all remaining Cherokees off of their lands in Georgia and marched them to Indian Territory in what is now Oklahoma.

Komentáře • 393

  • @iammrbeat
    @iammrbeat  Před 11 měsíci +1

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    • @Al2023-wx3ck
      @Al2023-wx3ck Před měsícem

      You are pathetic and your videos are a joke

  • @cheydinal5401
    @cheydinal5401 Před 6 lety +197

    I like how you gave the borders of France at the time, not France's modern borders

    • @sohopedeco
      @sohopedeco Před 3 lety +7

      But gave the borders of Spain including Portugal, which was already an independent country again.

    • @TimestampsOFFICIAL123
      @TimestampsOFFICIAL123 Před 2 lety +7

      Not even France at the time, at the time of the case France didnt even control Savoy or Wallonia or Geneva.

  • @cjimmersive6955
    @cjimmersive6955 Před rokem +58

    Whoa, a state ignored a Supreme Court decision without consequences? How often has that happened in American history?

    • @aceous99
      @aceous99 Před 10 měsíci +13

      the laws are mainly to punish the poor not the rich

    • @ProbablyBobWicks
      @ProbablyBobWicks Před 6 měsíci

      According to Andrew Jackson himself, "John Marshall has made his decision now let him enforce it." The Supreme Court doesn't have any power other than to say what is constitutional, and if nobody decides to listen to the Supreme Court, then their voice doesn't matter.

    • @user-mw9yh4cu2i
      @user-mw9yh4cu2i Před 5 měsíci +2

      Alabama is doing it right now

    • @calvincoolidge5943
      @calvincoolidge5943 Před 4 měsíci +1

      @@aceous99 what does that have to do with the question?

    • @andrewjgrimm
      @andrewjgrimm Před 3 měsíci +1

      @@calvincoolidge5943I think the question was rhetorical.

  • @zacharyparker995
    @zacharyparker995 Před 6 lety +348

    That Andrew Jackson guy, he was a real jerk.

    • @BlueHen123
      @BlueHen123 Před 5 lety +15

      Trump loves him lol

    • @abcdefg12359815
      @abcdefg12359815 Před 4 lety +11

      Thanks norm.

    • @thorunruh9244
      @thorunruh9244 Před 4 lety +7

      He had good intentions but things just fell apart for him

    • @IrishmanGFS
      @IrishmanGFS Před 4 lety +69

      @@thorunruh9244 Forcibly removing people from their land that they had lived on generations before he was even a thought is nowhere near "good intentions"

    • @jared1964
      @jared1964 Před 3 lety +15

      @@thorunruh9244 I'd like to know what these "good intentions" are ?

  • @Swampzoid
    @Swampzoid Před 4 lety +120

    I'm from Georgia. To think of all the horror and injustice that has happened here, It makes my heart heavy.

    • @smartyyoung7319
      @smartyyoung7319 Před 3 lety +1

      You are not at fault. It's your fucked up state government.

    • @Al2023-wx3ck
      @Al2023-wx3ck Před měsícem

      Ok guilt and self hat LOL

  • @liamrobert2460
    @liamrobert2460 Před 5 lety +90

    “John Marshal has made his decision, now let him enforce it”-Andrew Jackson
    Man did as he pleased

    • @vishaansingh1019
      @vishaansingh1019 Před 3 lety +5

      I remember my middle school teacher didn't properly specify on the test that this was sarcasm/a dare, so everyone in class missed the question

    • @tedgemberling2359
      @tedgemberling2359 Před rokem +2

      While I disagree with what Jackson did, I think presidents may need to start doing this again. The Supreme Court is out of control. They have now become our legislators. The Constitution and our laws mean whatever they say they mean.

    • @actanonverba3041
      @actanonverba3041 Před rokem +5

      @@tedgemberling2359 The Supreme Court is giving more authority for elected lawmakers to decide important issues, especially in their recent Dobbs decision. It’s the Roe court that was arrogating authority to themselves left and right.

    • @evielikeshugs1055
      @evielikeshugs1055 Před rokem +3

      We need alternate history hub what if john Marshall enforced it

    • @markwilliams2620
      @markwilliams2620 Před rokem

      @@actanonverba3041
      Animals without reproductive rights are livestock.

  • @mummyneo7112
    @mummyneo7112 Před 6 lety +261

    I think the court was right because the Native Americans should have rights in their territory because the US DOES NOT control Native American land. Great Video Mr Beat!

    • @iammrbeat
      @iammrbeat  Před 6 lety +29

      Darn straight! Thanks Mummy!

    • @mummyneo7112
      @mummyneo7112 Před 6 lety +13

      I hate Andrew Jackson too!

    • @OpinionesDeJACCsOpinions
      @OpinionesDeJACCsOpinions Před 5 lety +4

      States don't control their lands, but the U.S. does that's what this case actually said.

    • @BlueHen123
      @BlueHen123 Před 5 lety +3

      @@OpinionesDeJACCsOpinions More like States can't act like their own little country. They are just states that must still follow the Federal government above them. This foretold of the coming civil war about states rights

    • @OpinionesDeJACCsOpinions
      @OpinionesDeJACCsOpinions Před 5 lety +8

      @@BlueHen123
      🤣Oh you're one of those "states rights" people when it comes to the U.S. Civil War. Tell me which was the right that was being “infringed” upon?😏

  • @iammrbeat
    @iammrbeat  Před 6 lety +241

    Remember the Trail of Tears? Well, if Andrew Jackson and the Georgia legislature would have actually listened to the Supreme Court, it never would have happened.
    Who was the greatest Supreme Court justice, in your opinion?

    • @rockstarsharma53
      @rockstarsharma53 Před 6 lety +25

      Mr. Beat
      1. Antonin Scalia
      2. Hugo Black
      3. Warren Burger
      4. Earl Warren
      5. William Rehnquist
      6. Clarence Thomas
      7. Thurgood Marshall
      8. Ruth Bader Ginsburg
      9. Sandra Day O'Connor
      10. Harlan Stone

    • @flamefusion8963
      @flamefusion8963 Před 6 lety +3

      Mr. Beat Not quite sure that is necessarily true. Regardless of Jackson, campaigns for removal would have occured regardless.

    • @zacharyclark4682
      @zacharyclark4682 Před 6 lety +11

      Jackson's famous reaction to the ruling, "Justice Marshal has made his ruling, NOW LET HIM ENFORCE IT".

    • @iammrbeat
      @iammrbeat  Před 6 lety +7

      Yeah, but a strong President like Jackson did have the power to stop it.

    • @iammrbeat
      @iammrbeat  Před 6 lety +10

      That's a great quote, but unfortunately there is no proof Jackson ever said that. However, it's definitely believable he would say that.

  • @Hadrien659
    @Hadrien659 Před 6 lety +139

    I come from France, and your videos help me understanding US Law. Thx

    • @iammrbeat
      @iammrbeat  Před 6 lety +24

      I'm always excited to see comments from citizens from other countries. Glad you dig the videos and they help!

    • @larrywinkle5394
      @larrywinkle5394 Před 5 lety +2

      Welcome to the native American Indians land that was stolen. That's good you learn about American history it's very important

    • @cameraman502
      @cameraman502 Před 4 lety

      It's wrong though.

    • @georgelinker9035
      @georgelinker9035 Před 4 lety

      @@larrywinkle5394 the americans didn't steal it. France, spain portugal and england did

    • @theparadigm8149
      @theparadigm8149 Před 2 lety

      @@georgelinker9035
      What about the Cherokee Nation?
      Yup! Stolen land by Americans!
      Look, I’m still proud to be an American, but this is the reality of it!

  • @DDub04
    @DDub04 Před 4 lety +66

    "Gotta do a school project, let me search 'Worcester v. Georgia'"
    _Samuel A. Wooster_
    ...
    _'scuse me?_

    • @ShaqPlaque
      @ShaqPlaque Před rokem +2

      Wuhstah is how we say it in New England

  • @TheMoonyr
    @TheMoonyr Před 6 lety +41

    Literally just had to write an essay over this a month ago. Why couldn’t this be posted a month ago.

    • @iammrbeat
      @iammrbeat  Před 6 lety +14

      ah dang....hopefully you got a good grade?

  • @thefary3
    @thefary3 Před 6 lety +20

    As a spaniard I have to thank you for the Portuguese lebbensraum you gave us in your map. We really needed it, but some portuguese could get pissed off, be safe.

    • @iammrbeat
      @iammrbeat  Před 6 lety +5

      haha I just googled "Spain map" and that is what came up. I have a video about Macau coming up, so I feel like it might be difficult for me to get Portuguese subscribers.

    • @thefary3
      @thefary3 Před 6 lety +7

      You should compensate making a video about Catalonia, that way you can get everyone mad. Thanks for answering I'm a big fan, I started following you with the presidential elections and I'm learning a lot about the US.

  • @dancingzorbas
    @dancingzorbas Před 6 lety +79

    Sadly Jackson was too ignorant to actually force Georgia to respect the decision, but it truly was ultimately a monumental win for Native tribes. Thanks for uploading, another great video Mr. Beat!
    P.S.: Your feelings towards Andrew Jackson are mutual...

    • @iammrbeat
      @iammrbeat  Před 6 lety +15

      Well put Luke and thanks for the kind words :D

    • @paulmentzer7658
      @paulmentzer7658 Před 4 lety +9

      And how could Jackson enforce that decision? The US Army was less then 15000 men mostly in the Great Plains. The only east west connection was the Erie Canal, thus hard to move troops east to west or west to east. Most of the states supported Georgia in its desire to remove the First Americans westward (even New York State will try to do so about the same time period but a sale of land was arranged instead).
      The Militia of Georgia, Alabama, Tennessee and North Carolina out numbered the US Regular army. South Carolina was in the middle of the nullification crisis, where South Carolina said it could nullify any federal law it disliked, and Jackson was counting on the Militia of Georgia, Alabama, North Carolina and Tennessee to put down that act of rebellion.
      Unlike Lincoln 30 years later, who could count on Northern support to put down the South and rely on the existing of the New York Central, Pennsylvania and Batitmore and Ohio railroads to move troops east to west and west to east, Jackson had little support to put down a rebellion in the South outside the deep South and a much weaker infrastructure to move troops to put down a rebellion.
      Sorry, but to stop the removal of the Cherokees was not possible in 1836, furthermore Jackson was out of office when the removal took place, Van Bureau was President during the trail of tears.

    • @Nebulasecura
      @Nebulasecura Před 10 měsíci +2

      ​@@paulmentzer7658 damn bro you provided some excellent points

    • @alyx1a
      @alyx1a Před 8 měsíci +1

      @@paulmentzer7658 Jackson could have at the very least not helped support the decision

    • @cidey1855
      @cidey1855 Před 6 měsíci

      @@paulmentzer7658
      Don't try to justify what Jackson did, it was very clear he was against Native Americans and he literally went against the constitution and seperation of powers by not enforcing the decision. Also your point that he was out of the presidency when the trail of tears happens doesn't really make sense, because andrew jackson threatened native americans to leave and if not for him, it probably wouldn't have happened to the extent that it did

  • @theindigenousmaniac
    @theindigenousmaniac Před 3 lety +18

    We are still in NC thanks to our beloved ancestor tsali he sacrificed himself for us to be able to stay. While only a few of us stayed we still have connections with our other half the Cherokee in our Oklahoma.

  • @BlueHen123
    @BlueHen123 Před 5 lety +5

    Happy New Year Mr. Beat! Just want to tell you how much I love your videos. I'm a US history buff and you're videos are a great joy to me! I love that you cover it straight forward without bias and make the dry supreme court cases come to life. Cheers!

  • @sophiadrum4556
    @sophiadrum4556 Před 3 lety +9

    I love how you yelled at Andrew Jackson at the end the energy in this video is great

  • @Quinntus79
    @Quinntus79 Před 4 lety +9

    I had a history professor who introduced A. Jackson like this, “the man had balls...in his chest from dueling.”

  • @vladimirlenin2714
    @vladimirlenin2714 Před 6 lety +19

    Love your videos Mr. Beat, keep up the great work. Definitely see your channel growing very much in the future.

    • @iammrbeat
      @iammrbeat  Před 6 lety +3

      Thank you. That means a lot. :D

  • @TheLeagueOfTasteAndClassCorp

    Coming from the UK these videos are incredibly informative. Thank you Mr Beat.

    • @iammrbeat
      @iammrbeat  Před 6 lety +8

      Glad to hear! Thanks for watching. :D

  • @taylorwilson1626
    @taylorwilson1626 Před 5 lety +4

    Your videos are really helping me get through my class. Thank you.

  • @victorbreindenbach1479
    @victorbreindenbach1479 Před 3 měsíci

    I'm from Venezuela and I'm pretty sure I have watched every single one supreme-court-briefs videos they are so f***ing good man... I'm becoming a US citizen this year and I love history. Your youtube channel is one of my favorite fr truly inspirational thank you so much for your hard work it shows 🙌 YOU ARE THE MAN!

  • @robertericks
    @robertericks Před 11 měsíci +2

    Hey Mr. Beat! Please consider doing some episodes on the Marshall Trilogy as a follow up to this video.

  • @romyan5382
    @romyan5382 Před 6 lety +3

    Damn, I needed this info in March and I watched your channel a lot at that time.

  • @LexxLafever
    @LexxLafever Před rokem

    thank you so much for making this !

  • @bkdmode
    @bkdmode Před 2 lety +15

    I think that was the MAIN reason Trump idolized Jackson, Jackson ignored SCOTUS which Trump talked about doing yet never had the "courage" to do. The fact that Jackson ignored a SCOTUS ruling makes it even more puzzling that he was put on one of the most "popular" currency denominations.

    • @tedpuckett8066
      @tedpuckett8066 Před rokem +4

      Or mayb a mockery cuz AJ hated the banks?

    • @slauderek3195
      @slauderek3195 Před 11 měsíci

      Andrew Jackson was the only president in history to pay off the national debt and was known to be a very successful and beloved president for his successes

    • @SamWinchester000
      @SamWinchester000 Před 11 měsíci +2

      He was one of the most important and influential presidents ever, and he was a champion of democracy and the rights of the white man, of course an overly nationalist and patriotic white America would put him on a dollar bill. Especially in a time where Jackson, Jefferson, Lincoln and Washington had been the greatest presidents in the history of the nation up to that point. Who else would you expect on the dollar? Franklin Pierce, Rutherford B. Hayes, John Quincy Adams, Zachary Taylor? I guess not. James K. Polk might bei debatable but I guess, as he came and gone in very rapid time and his time and his control of politics were very short, he began to be glorified and resurface in the eyes of the public much later.

    • @SamWinchester000
      @SamWinchester000 Před 11 měsíci

      You have to keep in mind that those dollar bill depections of today Had been selected Like a century ago when pure patriotism dominantes the era and minorities we're irrelevant. They are terrible remnants of a not so nice time to be honest.

    • @universalplayz7496
      @universalplayz7496 Před měsícem

      The thing is this was early in scotus so ignoring a SC court decision back then vs now is day and night
      No president in their right mind regardless of what decision was made would ever blatantly ignore a Supreme Court decision in PUBLIC

  • @Alexrocksdude_
    @Alexrocksdude_ Před 6 lety +5

    Great video as always!"

  • @kameeshafreeman781
    @kameeshafreeman781 Před 2 lety

    Please make more!!

  • @wenjunetanedo5371
    @wenjunetanedo5371 Před 10 měsíci

    Thank you for sharing it was education & informative.

  • @NoNameNo.5
    @NoNameNo.5 Před 3 lety +3

    Jackson “da fuck u gon do about it!?”

  • @LucasFernandez-fk8se
    @LucasFernandez-fk8se Před 6 lety +15

    And they named a sauce after this case?

  • @jorge6207
    @jorge6207 Před 4 lety +11

    3:19 Hey. Spain overextends a bit, no? Like, over Portugal and stuff.

  • @LongshotRecordsTV
    @LongshotRecordsTV Před 5 lety +2

    Absolutely a bad idea! Bad Andy, Bad! I think that the judicial branch should have there own enforcement/compliance department. If the courts rule something and the executive, the legislature or the police just ignore the ruling there are no repercussions. But if a citizen disregards a court order we are further penalized.

  • @royb8246
    @royb8246 Před 6 lety +3

    I enjoy your videos.

    • @iammrbeat
      @iammrbeat  Před 6 lety +1

      I appreciate you watching :)

  • @Thedethijs
    @Thedethijs Před 6 lety +5

    It might be interesting to look at fletcher v peck as well! I have to write a paper about a related topic and it keeps coming up

    • @iammrbeat
      @iammrbeat  Před 6 lety

      Never even heard of that case. Thanks for suggesting it.

  • @Gallalad1
    @Gallalad1 Před 6 lety +4

    So, was this the decision where Jackson said "Justice Marshall has made his decision now let him enforce it?" Or something to that effect

    • @iammrbeat
      @iammrbeat  Před 6 lety +5

      He supposedly said that, but there is no actual proof that he ever did. However, it's certainly believable he would have said that.

    • @dugroz
      @dugroz Před 6 lety +1

      Someone in another comment found a quote where he said that in essence, but not those exact words.

  • @chrishenry3394
    @chrishenry3394 Před 4 měsíci

    Do you have a series about the amendments and amendment process to the constitution? Would be great to see one

  • @okiedokie1817
    @okiedokie1817 Před 4 lety

    thank u so much

  • @jettjamespruitt9842
    @jettjamespruitt9842 Před 6 lety +6

    Very good video Mr. Beats. Why don't you compare the democracy in Athens and the Roman Republic and see which form of governmental structure was best.

  • @Davey-TheDJ
    @Davey-TheDJ Před 4 lety +2

    My great grandma was a Cherokee Indian!

  • @nathanarnold2621
    @nathanarnold2621 Před 9 měsíci

    It’s crazy seeing this after the recent bankruptcy case from SCOTUS

  • @andrewm000
    @andrewm000 Před rokem +3

    As horrific as this is, but important to add, it happens again in Indian Territory,(IT) aka Oklahoma Territory, aka the State of Oklahoma (1907) which was given in perpetuity to the so called Indians for the Indian Removal Act of 1830.
    The sophisticated tools are the Dawes Act(1887) which eliminates Indian lands & carve the land into 160 acre lots to be sold. Then comes the Curtis Act(1898), which taking a page out of Georgia's legislation in the 1830's and eliminates the sovereignty of natives who were piled into this locale. Here is the kicker; strategically left in Indian Territory are 2 million acres of land in the center of IT which are also carved up in 160 acre lots that obstensibly were homesteaded for and by white settlers in 1889; the Oklahoma Land rush. Oklahoma had seven land rushes ending in 1895. You'll never look at the musical Oklahoma again the same way. If you are familiar with the University of Oklahoma, the teams are called the "Sooners." If you want a CHERRY on top-research why they are called the "SOONERS"...

  • @aintnoway686
    @aintnoway686 Před 6 lety +6

    Mr. Beat, I really hope you see this; but i would really like to see Miller v. United States, considering the national conversation about gun control. I hear this case tossed around A LOT on both sides (extreme and centered) so I feel like it would be a good topic

    • @iammrbeat
      @iammrbeat  Před 6 lety +1

      Yes, I will eventually get to that one for sure

    • @aintnoway686
      @aintnoway686 Před 6 lety

      Mr. Beat good to hear :) glad you're doing it

  • @keremkelleboz6959
    @keremkelleboz6959 Před 6 lety +5

    I respected Jackson before watching this video. Ignoring a Supreme Court decision is tyrannical and destructive long-term

    • @universalplayz7496
      @universalplayz7496 Před měsícem

      To be fair he did showcase separation of power
      So the judicial branch isn’t just over both the executive and legislative branch of the government
      but that’s really the only good part

  • @clairemetcalf-kh6bk
    @clairemetcalf-kh6bk Před rokem +2

    When the Supreme Court stops your laws, you know their crappy. (Also I’m from Georgia) Protect the Cherokee!

  • @Mr.Turano
    @Mr.Turano Před 5 lety +2

    It was a nightmare. I agree.
    We are a better nation for having nations peacefully within our borders,(I am aware of the continued abuses to the sovereignty of native American laws by visiting Americans especially.) The rest of us have to ensure that those who've helped and continue to help us, and they have, continue to walk with us through history. To lose the native American culture is to kill a piece of humanity itself, a self inflicted wound that would bleed forever.
    We do our best to protect animals from disappearing, we must be doubled in our effort to preserve and cultivate each other into the future, no matter what may come.

  • @JohnPaulHodge
    @JohnPaulHodge Před 4 lety +1

    Enjoy your videos. Hope everybody understands why we want his picture off of the money.

  • @user-fn5to2ef3d
    @user-fn5to2ef3d Před 6 lety +6

    Korematsu v. United States

  • @zhubajie6940
    @zhubajie6940 Před 4 lety

    When will you do A.L.A. Schechter Poultry Corp. v. United States?

  • @ch44227
    @ch44227 Před 3 lety +3

    Is there any other cases where everybody ignore the Supreme Court's ruling?

    • @tedpuckett8066
      @tedpuckett8066 Před rokem

      Latest abortion case.

    • @universalplayz7496
      @universalplayz7496 Před měsícem

      @@tedpuckett8066but the Supreme Court didn’t make any decision regarding abortion other than the fact they had no right to rule on it in the first place..

  • @RoseAbrams
    @RoseAbrams Před 2 lety

    the fact that you pronounced Worcester correctly is admirable

  • @lilianamartinez9870
    @lilianamartinez9870 Před 3 lety

    I saw the pillow cube commercial and now i want one

  • @flamefusion8963
    @flamefusion8963 Před 6 lety +36

    It is sad seeing the state of indian reservations. If we truly want what is best for native americans, we would dismantle the reservations, no longer isolating them from the rest of the country. That wish probably is just disillusionment as history has shown we were never good at solving the problem, just kicking it doen the road (usually through indian relocation).

    • @flamefusion8963
      @flamefusion8963 Před 6 lety +2

      Liberosity Definitely. Clearly there is a problem when despite getting statistically the most government aid, natives are performing the worst economically (making on average less than half the average US Citizen). These reservations and constant aid programs keep them in permanent poverty.

    • @iammrbeat
      @iammrbeat  Před 6 lety +10

      Agree as well. Maybe, though, there could be some sort of aid to help them acquire property they so they could independently build up wealth. It's needs to be easier for them to be competitive in the modern, global economy, but they don't have the same opportunities as many Americans.

    • @OpinionesDeJACCsOpinions
      @OpinionesDeJACCsOpinions Před 5 lety +5

      That was a thing called "Assimilation", which actually damaged Native American tribes even more. It was tried during the twenties (probably way earlier) to I think the sixties, which extinguished land claims as well as the tribes themselves, it just caused a lot of problems!
      I feel Native American tribes should have binding representation in the House of Representatives just like state populations. In my opinion the map of the United States should include the borders of tribal reservations to show them as equal but different to states. Tribes as said in this video don't have to follow state law and since they do have to follow federal they should be shown as equal in maps as it not only 50 states but also several tribes as well.

    • @BeaDaNurse
      @BeaDaNurse Před 4 lety +1

      Flame Fusion You are sadly mistaken. Your remedy will further strip the Nations. Not help them.

    • @jasonbrown372
      @jasonbrown372 Před 3 lety

      @@flamefusion8963 GFYS

  • @Selmarya
    @Selmarya Před 2 lety +1

    Wow, fannin county was once cherokee

  • @victorbreindenbach1479
    @victorbreindenbach1479 Před 3 měsíci

    I can't wait for a supreme court brief video on Trump Vs Colorado

  • @remybedard9940
    @remybedard9940 Před 2 lety

    1:40 That first Wuhstah hurt as a New Englander

  • @aimtiTV
    @aimtiTV Před 6 lety +1

    3:17 Poor Portugal :(

  • @randomdudeontheinternet4827

    I wish Mr. Beat was my teacher. 🤗

  • @baileyyyyyyyyyyyy
    @baileyyyyyyyyyyyy Před rokem

    im watching this in class rn

  • @TheHomerowKeys
    @TheHomerowKeys Před 2 lety +1

    This guy is so impartial. He tells you the facts of what happened...

  • @kidmohair8151
    @kidmohair8151 Před 3 lety +5

    it "clarified" the relation between Native Americans and the state and federal governments,
    U N L E S S
    there was something of value that the Native Americans had
    on their land and then the relationship immediately
    became the same as it was before Worcestor v Georgia,
    and the only Real Americans were shunted off to the next
    bit of land that white people didn't want, until they wanted it...
    the same story continues to this day:
    viz the DAPL, and XL pipeline....to mention just 2

  • @saintburnsy2468
    @saintburnsy2468 Před 3 lety +1

    As President, I will work to right the historical wrongs perpetrated upon our indigenous American neighbors. Too many treaties continue to be violated.

  • @zarragross7746
    @zarragross7746 Před 4 lety +1

    LOL im watching this in remote learning 2020 Corona

  • @kosrules1884
    @kosrules1884 Před 5 lety

    Also remember that they felt gold up in Northern Georgia which was the first gold rush in the U.S.

  • @grantgoodman8415
    @grantgoodman8415 Před 3 lety

    that ending though 😂

  • @Y.d.o.b.o.n
    @Y.d.o.b.o.n Před 6 lety +1

    Do wisconsin vs minnesota

  • @ashtoncollins868
    @ashtoncollins868 Před 2 lety

    President During this time: Andrew Jackson (:/)
    Chief Justice: John Marshall
    Argued February 20, 1832
    Decided March 3, 1832
    Case Duration: 12 Days
    Decision: 5-1 in favor of Worcester

  • @josestarks8892
    @josestarks8892 Před 5 lety +1

    This just goes to show that without the PRESIDENT enforcing the laws it meant nothing. "Marshall has made his decision, now let him enforce it." That's not how it works Jackson.

  • @lukedetering4490
    @lukedetering4490 Před 6 lety +2

    Oh Jackson. The one American president who doesn't care about legality

    • @iammrbeat
      @iammrbeat  Před 6 lety +1

      There might be another couple I can think of off the top of my head :)

    • @lukedetering4490
      @lukedetering4490 Před 6 lety

      Mr. Beat true

  • @Frygonz
    @Frygonz Před 5 měsíci

    When oh WHEN can we finally get him off the $20 bill.

  • @bobbyferg9173
    @bobbyferg9173 Před 6 lety +2

    And I thought that the President directly going against the actions of the Supreme Court was illegal.

    • @HistoryNerd808
      @HistoryNerd808 Před 6 lety +1

      Bobby Ferg I'm not sure if it is. I'm not a lawyer but it might fall under contempt of court.

    • @dugroz
      @dugroz Před 6 lety +1

      If no one is willing to enforce what the court says, words like "illegal" are pretty meaningless.

    • @bobbyferg9173
      @bobbyferg9173 Před 6 lety +1

      dugroz Yah it is pretty sad how often people will bend or just ignore laws just because they can.

    • @braincoolo9399
      @braincoolo9399 Před 5 lety +1

      @@bobbyferg9173 its Andrew jackson, Andrew fucking jackson

    • @universalplayz7496
      @universalplayz7496 Před měsícem

      Not really nowhere is it illegal for a president to do this
      But well if they did they would be impeached by the morning in the 21st century regardless of who they are
      No party wants there face to be of tyranny which is what ignoring a SC decision in the 21st century would be
      But anyways this also demsontrates separation of Power
      The SC can rule on legislation but can’t enforce it
      Otherwise that branch is too powerful and would create an imbalance

  • @aaronbradley3232
    @aaronbradley3232 Před 5 lety

    So could I start or when you get your cult going, people refer to forget what video people can refer to his most recent video as of this posting on January 9th 2019 for more on that. So citing this Supreme Court decision can we just like make our own Nation in the middle of Kansas or can I just found a nation outside of Philadelphia tonight?

  • @societysbasement5369
    @societysbasement5369 Před rokem

    I love you, man. just discovered this gem of a video... you know how I feel about this topic. let's do more to make reparations to the people who lived here on Turtle Island FIRST!

  • @GoreGutztheImpaler
    @GoreGutztheImpaler Před 4 měsíci

    The only thing I could find is this "President Andrew Jackson ignored the Court's decision in Worcester v. Georgia, but later issued a proclamation of the Supreme Court's ultimate power to decide constitutional questions and emphasizing that its decisions had to be obeyed."
    Did Andrew Jackson get punished for disobeying the supreme court? I would hope in todays politics if the President disobeyed the supreme court they would get punished.

    • @universalplayz7496
      @universalplayz7496 Před měsícem

      Since it was the early 19th century and the court wasn’t as established as it is now nothing really happened
      Ofc if any president post 20th century even thought of PUBLICALLY disobeying a Supreme Court decision and refusing to enforce it they won’t be president come morning

  • @user-fn5to2ef3d
    @user-fn5to2ef3d Před 6 lety

    Wisconsin v. Yoder

  • @FactNFiction
    @FactNFiction Před 2 lety

    It looks like in this timeline Spain annexed Portugal

  • @atozed932
    @atozed932 Před 6 lety +1

    Why did you give Portugal to Spain?

    • @bobbyferg9173
      @bobbyferg9173 Před 6 lety

      Makes the flag more complete, and perhaps Spain had actually annexed Portugal at the time but no one noticed and historians are all attempting to hide the fact and Mr.Beat is trying to get the Truth out.
      Or perhaps it was just a mistake when making the video but I like to believe the conspiracy theory.

  • @damianbrown6268
    @damianbrown6268 Před 3 lety

    Love the video, but technically Butler and Wooster can't get 4 yrs labor because it goes against Amendment 7 or 8. (Sorry I get a little confused when learning about the Bill of Right)

  • @davestrasburg408
    @davestrasburg408 Před rokem +1

    For many years, l have regretted the hateful "lndian Removal Act"; l have always loathed Andrew Jackson.

  • @absolutellienot5424
    @absolutellienot5424 Před rokem +1

    ya i’ve always hated that he’s on the twenty. like old statesmen are almost all racist but jackson was exceptional. dude just had a deep disdain for all forms of human life.

  • @maxtalkspolitics3180
    @maxtalkspolitics3180 Před 3 lety +3

    Anyway Andrew Jackson continues to be my fourth most beloved president.

  • @cristyflaherty4902
    @cristyflaherty4902 Před 2 lety +1

    Jaxson was terrible and so were those other people helping with it which is once again proving humans are kind of the worst. In an artical about the Harriet Tubman $20 bill it seems they still hate Jaxson to this day, good thing someone who deserves it is going to replace him.

  • @laurasweightlossjourney
    @laurasweightlossjourney Před 2 lety +1

    Georgia: there’s no Cherokee nation
    Also Georgia: let’s charge that white dude for being on Cherokee nation land

  • @broken2bones
    @broken2bones Před 7 měsíci

    Sad that this is still law of the land

  • @ericveneto1593
    @ericveneto1593 Před 4 lety

    Justice Marshall made his ruling, now let him enforce it.

  • @maxtalkspolitics3180
    @maxtalkspolitics3180 Před 3 lety

    I think that all Americans should live within in the same Country have the same Rights and follow the same laws

  • @antonevelone1439
    @antonevelone1439 Před rokem

    To answer your question, let me as you, do you think Russia is morally right in standing against the United States?

  • @ConnorLonergan
    @ConnorLonergan Před 5 lety

    Hmmm if what you say is true that this court ruling makes tribal territory Independent nations (and no verdict had overturned it) could a future president declare the tribal lands currently recognized as independent nations?

    • @ulyssessphoenix2745
      @ulyssessphoenix2745 Před 2 lety

      Honestly that would be a good court case to bring.

    • @tedpuckett8066
      @tedpuckett8066 Před rokem

      They wud call it "custom"?

    • @universalplayz7496
      @universalplayz7496 Před měsícem

      I think those tribal nations have to declare independence first?

    • @ConnorLonergan
      @ConnorLonergan Před měsícem

      @@universalplayz7496 Kind of. I mean If a president was to issue such a policy the Tribal Nations are by and large going to back it as it would be to their advantage

  • @justfrankjustdank2538
    @justfrankjustdank2538 Před 2 lety +1

    "do you think the indian removal act was a good idea? answer in the comments below"

    • @justfrankjustdank2538
      @justfrankjustdank2538 Před 2 lety

      @@user-hd2rr4io1q you have done what no commenter in history has done, you have solved the indian removal act and proved it was in fact a bad idea

  • @MikhailTabigay
    @MikhailTabigay Před 6 lety

    What should we do to compensate the cherokees?

    • @jupiterkansas
      @jupiterkansas Před 6 lety

      maybe ask them?

    • @MikhailTabigay
      @MikhailTabigay Před 6 lety

      Jupiter Kansas yeah, maybe tax payers money will help as well you know?

    • @HistoryNerd808
      @HistoryNerd808 Před 6 lety +5

      I tend to believe that compensation by people who weren't alive to people who weren't alive is kind of dumb. I think the best solution is not to open old wounds but to move on as a more equal society which we are now.

    • @universalplayz7496
      @universalplayz7496 Před měsícem

      @@HistoryNerd808I mean those descendants are still facing reprucussions from this
      Those who took the land freely live it
      And those who were forced out don’t in general

    • @HistoryNerd808
      @HistoryNerd808 Před měsícem

      @@universalplayz7496 Sure but none of us were alive. Also, I'm generally more in favor of seeing people as individuals. I see it as similar to the debate over slavery reparations to African-Americans, albeit that has the added wrinkle of Black immigrants who aren't descended from slaves they would be giving money to. Also, you realize that comment is from 6 years ago, right?

  • @Quintinohthree
    @Quintinohthree Před 6 lety

    3:18 You sure you've got the right map of France there? Because that looks a bit like a map of France and Wallonia united. Some people may want the map of France to look like that but I'm fairly certain it never has looked like that.

    • @iammrbeat
      @iammrbeat  Před 6 lety +4

      Here is what I did. I Googled "maps of France in the public domain" and that was one of the first ones to show up.

  • @scottfeemster7694
    @scottfeemster7694 Před 3 lety

    The simple fact is ever since Europeans set foot on this soil they started taking land from the Indians. This was not the beginning or the end.

  • @faristaj2326
    @faristaj2326 Před 6 lety +4

    Oh America..

  • @fredred8371
    @fredred8371 Před 6 lety +2

    I love Andrew Jackson

  • @LeonNikkidude
    @LeonNikkidude Před 5 lety

    The Cherokees really proved the govt.Its so sad!

  • @pillsburydoughboy1693

    If only he listened

  • @mr.dr.genius6997
    @mr.dr.genius6997 Před 6 lety +1

    4:56 Why didn't Johnson vote?

    • @Gallalad1
      @Gallalad1 Před 6 lety

      I was asking myself that question

    • @iammrbeat
      @iammrbeat  Před 6 lety +4

      I couldn't find out why, but this actually used to be more common than you think.

    • @Gallalad1
      @Gallalad1 Před 6 lety

      Mr. Beat that would be a great bonus to do, talking about judges not siding

    • @iammrbeat
      @iammrbeat  Před 6 lety +1

      I'd have to go to the archives, as that info doesn't appear to be published online.

    • @Gallalad1
      @Gallalad1 Před 6 lety +1

      Mr. Beat it would be interesting regardless

  • @sebastianvelasquez5700
    @sebastianvelasquez5700 Před 5 lety +1

    He sounds like Ben Wyatt

  • @elijahfordsidioticvarietys8770

    (Tried to stop)

  • @bryonwatkins1432
    @bryonwatkins1432 Před 3 lety

    NO, it was not a good idea!!!! It was NOT the land of the United States!!!!