Palestinians: Were your ancestors Jews or Christians?
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After the first few people, when you realized that 8/10 people were not going to be honest, you should have asked, "What religion do you think your ancestors practiced BEFORE MUHAMMAD WAS BORN?"
Well after seeing this video I think they still would have said Islam. Your comment is too logical I am sorry to say.
@@solvingpolitics3172 our ancestor is Adham alaihiwasallam
A Muslim
@@solvingpolitics3172 Yep. The subsequent comments after yours back that up.
@@selaluoposisisiapapunpresi7982 I guess Muhammad did nothing (except conquest) then. Everyone in his society (and apparently as far away as in the Levant) already had the full, uncorrupted Truth (TM), so he was totally unnecessary. God works in mysterious ways, as it's a bit strange to send a prophet to people who already know everything perfectly already.
@@Rationalific you are entitled to your guess
As a Palestinian, I admit that all of them do not answer the question correctly and do not understand anything. I am a Palestinian Bedouin and originally from the Arabian Peninsula Therefore, my ancestors used to worship idols before converting to Islam, As for the others, some of them were Christian, some of them were Jewish, and the majority of them were of Christian origin
Lol thank you for having common sense, the ancient Israelites never followed or believed in Islam they aren’t Muslim they are Israelites and Jews it doesn’t matter what the Islamic opinion is on this. Judaism existed long before Islam was created period
@@user-ik2bb2vz5x my guy thinks he did something there with that "period" Lol
No one denies that Judaism came before Islam, if Judaism was not got corrupted, Islam wasn't even existed but here we are.
Do some basic research before writing, it will be real having common sense.
So you admit your roots lie in the Arabian peninsula and you still call Palestine your homeland but when Jews do the same, you also tell them to get going because they're from outside (which itself isn't entirely true)?
is the translation in the video accurate?
@@didd2810 you Should read some history about the inhabitants of the region before saying something like that
Im Afghan and my relatives told me, that we are descendants of Jews and that we originally came from Central Asia. A DNA test confirmed that I had indeed Ashkenazi Jewish ancestors.
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sorry to hear that
What a shock only the Christian answered honestly.
But what was there before Jews, Christians and Muslims, which are basically all the same? How the same? They all subjugate women. They all block individual connection to the divine. They all assume an eternal spirit needs man's worship and obedience. They are three roots of the same silly tree!
Why you shocked?
I guess many Christians wouldn't know the answer either. If your history is long enough it gets lost
@@Overlorddz 😂😂😂 you must be Muslim or just as stupid ? Which one is it?
You know you’re in a cult when questions are too scary to answer truthfully.
You would think that Russians were being asked what they think of Putin !
A cult of a billion plus people? Anyway, no one knows who anyone was 100 years ago. Anyone that tells you otherwise is a liar. Your memory as a human disappears after 2 generations.
@@madmartinline6Google Sunan Abi Dawud 66&67
They only showed dumb people’s answers. The truth is known to intelligent people worldwide. czcams.com/video/bCn6v8X0Ebk/video.htmlsi=YHLmpUoYwYGHXfi6
@@homie3461 I didn’t say they were stupid and I didn’t find it ambiguous at all. “Were your ancestors Jews or Christians” should be very obvious they’re talking about before Islam existed since those were the only two choices given.
This was so fascinating and thought provoking. Europeans generally know their pagan, polytheistic background before Christianity. All Christians know that are faith beliefs are from the Jewish faith. But the people of Palestine can’t even bring the thought to their mind.
I think this answer would be the same all over the arabic world.
Because it's like a mind wipe spell. It's so farcical to a thinking mind to believe that nonsense.
From the Romans not the Jews
@@ni2giz Jews were dispersed for centuries before Rome spread its bastardized form of Christianity
@@ni2giz that means there were Europeans who had some familiarity with the religion of Moses.
It's amazing that they either don't understand the question, or don't know when Islam began.
Walk in streets of christian majority country and ask common people where jesus was born? I bet 9/10 wont know the awnser
@@mohammadalotaibi9197 So you're confirming religion only works because of ignorance or stupidity?
They are so antisemitic that they can't even say their ancestors were Jews. I guess they are ashamed of their ancestors.
As Palestinian Christians if their ancestors were Jews 😂 let’s see how they’ll answer cause I will we will say no
Or they understand the mea ing of Islam and Muslim in a theological sense and not the modern way you understand it. So you see it as ignorance on their part where they may fully understand the question and answer according to Islamic understanding. The word Muslim in Arabic means one who submits to the will of God. The Quran calls Abraham a Muslim even though he was long before Muhammad's time precisely because he submitted to the will of God ie a Muslim in Arabic. Theologically many Muslims believe early Jews and Christians were Muslim as well because they followed the teachings of prophets sent by God and thus submitted to the will of God. So if their ancestors were Jews or Christians they may think of them as theologically Muslim.
Most of these people have no idea when Islam became a religion (around 640-50 AD).
Islam really is a dark veil that clouds people's minds
Most of you people don't understand what Islam is so you can't understand where they're coming from.
To Muslims, being a "Muslim" is surrendering to God. It's not just a name to a religion that came with the Prophet Muhammed. Abraham, Moses, Issa (Jesus), and other prophets were all "submitting to the will of God". Therefore, they are "Muslims". They surrendered to God.
Furthermore, in Islam, there is such thing as a "believer" or a "Mo'min". These are the people who believe in God's books, prophets, heaven, hell, angels, etc. - The people who believe in one God. We pray for the believers almost everyday. The "believers" can be anyone. It's not about the religion they subscribe to, but about their belief and relationship with God.
Finally, in Islam, there is emphasis on preserving ancestry. As in, children always keep their father's surname. Many people have family trees that trace back to the Prophet Muhammed.
Yes, many families were of Jewish or Christian origins. But to them, it doesn't matter -- at the time, Jews were "the Muslims" of the time, and after that, Christians became "the Muslims" of their time.
Jews stopped being "Muslims" when they didn't believe in Issa (Jesus) as they refused the will of God, and Christians stoppped being "Muslims" when they made Jesus the son of God, and thereby they refused to surrender to the will of God.
@@khalid-now But Islam is not religion or faith in the first place. It's a ideological political system. A dangerous one.
it's funny they think islam is the first religion
@@khalid-nowbro stop with these narratives, you can't steal Jew prophets and also their lands 🤣🤣
This is such a dumb premise when you say yes Musa and Abraham was a Muslim according to muslims definition of Muslims 🤣
I grew up in a Muslim family. The problem is that Muslims believe that Islam actually predates every other religion and they think that all the prophets espoused a version of Islam that was "corrupted" and then turned into other religions. That's part of why it's hard for these people to fathom that their ancestors could've followed any other religion.
Basically they have been lied to. A religion based upon blatant lies puts you in conflict with so many people. It also makes Muslims appear to be indoctrinated maniacs. When people are unable to recognise and deny obvious historical facts, it leaves everyone else shaking their head in bewilderment. The inability and unwillingness to accept people of other faiths, just places you at odds with everyone else.
Having so called religious men, running a country, is insane. It brings only misery and death.
We followed Islam, because Judaism was de facto Islam (submit to god)
@@adamelghalmi9771 Idiot
@@adamelghalmi9771 Nah, you follow Islam, because your ancestors were converted at the point of a sworm. Convert or die. That's why you follow Islam. You also have no choice. Fact
@@adamelghalmi9771 😂 judaism is not islam. Islam came from Mohammed. Judaism came from Moses.
Judaism have 10 commandements, islam doesn’t have that. So why call judaism islam if they aren’t the same at all
I am a Muslim, with a unique background. My paternal side descended from Zoroastrian Magi, who went on to marry some of the descendants of Bani-Yamin (Benjamin tribe of Israelites) in Persia. I came to know about it through my late grandfather, & later found a family tree preserved his almirah. Infact, the oral traditions of our family maintains our Zoroastrian heritage, yet I wasn't aware of my Israelite ancestry. I find it odd to imagine that some of my ancestors may have fought against Nebuchadnezzar, while others like the Magis indulged in Sorcery.
Finally, glad to hear a Muslim who can be proud of his Jewish roots as well. Many other Palestinians probably are descended from ancient Israelites as well and I wish they can learn more about the rich history of the area even during pre-islamic period.
The most honest Muslim I've ever see here respect
@@majorianus8055 They were Pagans not Jews silly idiot who held this land. GO READ THE OT its all there all the murder filth do you require the verses? there are many, vile Moses then Joshua
@@kenmasters797 But dim as you are
I'm sorry but this is bullshit.
Zoroastrian Magi?
Zoroastrian priests stopped being natively referred to as Magi in the Sassanian period when "mobed" replaced it.
Are you telling me you can trace back your ancestry over 1,500 years?
And the Benjamin tribe was dissolved over 2,500 years ago.
No one on Earth can trace their ancestry back with certainty that long. Not even tribal paternalistic Arabs.
But people from all over the world make laughable claims about descending from one of the Lost Tribes, whether they're African-American, Afghan Pashtun or White American Mormons in Utah.
It's also very common for Middle Easterners and self-proclaimed leaders to claim ancestry from royalty and other important persons. Every other Imam claims to be a Seyyed, a descendant from the prophet Muhammed even if they're a Pakistani villager that can't even read the Quran in Classical Arabic.
Every medieval Iranian dynasty claimed descent from the Sassanids.
The Sassanid era non-Persians claimed descent from the Parthians.
The Sassanids themselves claimed descent from the Achaemenids.
Etc.
I'm also a Middle Easterner and I also have people in my extended family claiming we were this and that.
Some is correct, but if it involves the freaking Iron Age and ancient times then it's certainly bullshit.
Maaan, ignorance can be very powerful. Great content. Thank you.
The power of cult. The ignorance is entirely willful, people are addicted to their own emotional thinking.
What religion where your ancestors 1400 years ago? It's an impossible question to answer, who the hell knows.
The issue is the translation of the question to arabic isn’t right, “ancestors” is translated by the translator to “grandparents” so the people answer according to their grandparents and the grandparents of their grandparents which is just like 100 or 200 years ago, only the young lady that was communicating in English was able to understand the word “ancestors”.
that doesnt matter; he explicitly asked BEFORE Islam and they still kept saying they were Muslim...he even clarified a few times that he was speaking of 600 CE.
@@destructo3915 yes I understand, they seemed to be confused by the question, but at least they didn’t make an assumption that affected anyone!
I know people who killed thousands based on assumption that their own personal ancestors were jews who lived in a specific land that they gave themselves right to steal now after thousands of years!!
@@halay9568No land was stolen. Land was conquered in open battle and the muslims were beaten and ran off like dogs.
Is there no word for ancestors in Arabic or is the translator just bad at translating?
@@halay9568I know people that killed millions because they followed the bullsht of one illiterate pdf bedouin.
"Who has family from 800 years ago"... everyone!!!!
Yes, but who knows? I have a family tree that goes back to 1500, only because my town has kept the archives and some scholars studied them and built all the family trees. I doubt people in Palestine have such documents that trace back their ancestry that far.
Moreover, it's demonstrated scientifically that when you go back enough, we all have a common ancestor. For example every European (and everyone else of European descent) shares a common ancestor with every other European. This ancestor lived in the last 1000 years. That means that the great-great-[...]-great-grandfater of all Europeans was born around the year 1000 AD. If you go back further, every single ancient European is an ancestor of every single European living today. This can definitely be applied to other regions of the world. Considering that Jews moved from Palestine to Europe and that Arabs conquered southern parts of Europe before 1000 AD, it's very much probable that every European has Jewish and Arab descent as well, and viceversa.
there was an experiment that "palestinians" participated, they took a dna test and it showed that their ancestors are jews or they are jewish themselves. @@divxxx
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The meaning of family is different. Means people you see, live with, alive. Not loosely meaning ancestors
the more you go up a family tree, the less you would actually be related to your ancestors
The ignorance and denial is just unbelievable! Years ago I asked the same question to my Moroccan neighbor, she said 'ooh ... it was so long time ago'. Actually she did not give me an answer. Thank you for this video, brilliant! ❤
We (Muslims) beleive before the advent of Prophet Muhammad those who followed the message of Jesus were muslims, so there were muslims from the time of Adam, the first person..
so long ago he can not remember :)
@dhdowlad That would be a taqiya to establish credibility of Islam by talking about prophets of the Jews as if Islam have been the religion since Adam. While the word muslim refers to people who submit to God, it has the most connection to Islam. That is being muslim in Islam means to ALSO believe in Muhammad as the messenger of Allah.
Judaism and almost all religions believe and submit themselves to God, but certainly they don't believe in Muhammad as their prophet, therefore nahh.. they WERE NEVER muslim and certainly could not believe in Islam as none of the Jewish prophets ever knew Muhammad.
Because land isn't decided by who used to live there first, or religious origin. Nobody would accept that for their own country or people. Would you accept a UN resolution to give land in your country (wherever it was decided) back to a group of people who used to live there before it was conquered by its current occupants? The same argument can be made for giving the native Americans 53% of America back, and force all Americans living in the territory given to them to move, or else be subject to the jurisdiction of the native American government. Or giving Australia back to the aborigine, or kicking all white people out of South Africa. Someone else used to live everywhere on this planet. It's never been an argument for anyone else. Only Jews. What happened to Jews during WWII was absolutely despicable... but it didn't give the UN the right to create an injustice and remove people from their land... because it was theirs. Who owned or occupied it centuries ago is the most irrelevant non-argument.
@@skydriver5709
You lose war = you lose territory
As I Jew I’m not embarrassed to say my ancestors were idol worshippers. Terah, Abraham’s father.
Abraham is a pure Muslim
Neither Jew nor Christian
He built Kaaba in Mecca
When he arrived in Philistines/ Palestine at his last stage
He started to make Al Aqsa mosque in Jerusalem
Read Genesis 17:20
Also Read Genesis 17 before and after verse 20. In fact, read the whole chapter and report back.
@@AbrarJahin-vs8yzyou’re just stupid aren’t u
What kind a jew are u? European akhenazi that don't have any DNA ftom middle east??...😂
The translation of the question is misleading. Ajadadak means your grandparents not ancestors
Exactly that’s what I thought. Like if someone asks me about أجدادك I think of my (great) grandparents and maybe their grandparents but my ancestors thousand plus years ago, that’s more a history question.
So understanding the question now...were your ancestors jews, christians, or pagans?
@@boso74 all of the three. Three different conversions in place.
You hit the nail on the right place man. One thing is common, no one wants to say that they were Jewish :)
Cuz they know they were
The ancesors of most palestinians before Islam were jewish.Thats a fact.They can deny though since it was over 1400 years ago.Thats why i consider this Israel Plestine war as a war between tribemates.@@lyoelin
Got a 23&Me dna test. I’m proudly (as far as one can be proud of one’s genes) 2% Jewish. 🤷♂️ Well, it’s something! 😄
The whole identity of their oppressors is based around being Jewish of course the oppressed people do not want to be associated with that 🤦♂️
They weren't Jews, they were Arabs, descendants of Ishmael the illigitimate son of Abraham.
AMAZING! To the Muslims this concept is unfathomable. Every Christian knows that Jesus was Jewish and therefore their ancestors were Jewish. And there is no shame in that; they may claim that they have since rejected Judaism and now follow the true path. But no Muslim can even consider the fact that prior to Islam they may have been something else. Even the translator is having an issue with this question!
Muslims are the most delusional, I always knew. They need to learn common sense!
So every Christian was descended from Jesus? No. Most Christians were from (likely polytheistic) European populations or populations who were later Christianized by European Christians.
@@Undeference You're correct. I apologize for presumptuously stating "therefore their ancestors were Jewish" when this indeed is not fact. My point is that every Christian believes/knows that prior to their ancestors being Christian they were something else.
A "muslim" is just some random letters that were put together. The true meaning of a muslim in islam -which I'd guess thats where their answers came from- is someone who submits to allah. So every person who submits to god, even before "islam" was thing, is technically a muslim to them; hence their answers. Unless you're talking ethnicity wise, which in that case, judaism is a religion not an ethnicity.
@@marshmallowpassionaticalyl6617 Right. I think that misunderstanding is clear. What stands out is how taken back each interviewee was by the suggestion that they may have come from a Jew or any non Muslim. There seems to be no perspective, insight or history in their answers or thought process.
Maybe next time you should ask them: "Were your ancestors Jews, Christians or Pagans?
that might help, but it seems they are hardwired to avoid any admittance of their imperfect past.
Qur'an 5:111 - And [remember] when I inspired to the disciples, "Believe in Me and in My messenger [i.e., Jesus]." They said, "We have believed, so bear witness that indeed we are Muslims [in submission to Allāh]."
The disciples were Muslims. There was no Crosstianity - they never worshipped a roman cross. The word "christian" was used as an insult firstly to the Messiah and then to the followers. Look into the origin of the insult word "cretin".
@@fl5537 that seems a cheap trick to appropriate the other religions. It isnt a game. The mormons do a similar thing, they convert people after death, so technically mormonism is the biggest religion in the world and everyone is mormon. What this does is make the the word muslim disconnected with islam logically as if everyone is muslim from the first man, then it has no religious meaning beyond believing in God, which is not islam, as islam is defined as belief in mohammed's message.
It’s amazing how the one Christian Lourdes in 2:57 has an answer so drastically different than the rest.
Young woman with child and her Mother: Our ancestors were Muslim and their ancestors were Muslim.
Corey: Okay, but Before Islam ?
Older woman: They were Muslim 😂
Best answer... Before islam just islam....
That's because you don't know history. The Quran
clearly mentions that Islam was there even before prophet Mohamed.
The human is born muslim, they're rather convert him to judaism or Christianity
@@samybourmad2779 exactly 💯
@@gusunnaz7644 But did the ancient Palestinians follow Islam when Romans and Greeks were ruling over them? That's the question
We must understand the tribal aspect of it, a majority of the Jews and the Christians are indigenous to the land, while Islam arrived with the Arab colonization of the land
So you are saying palestinians are exactly the same as Saudi Arabians?
Hinduism was there prior to both, now move along cupcake!
Most of Palestinians (no matter Muslim or Christian) are autochtonous from there, and were before that Jew, Christian or Idol worshipper
Today I've learned that Islam has been in existence since the beginning of time.
Yes. This what we beilve actually, Adam(as) and eve were muslims, message of islam(submission to god) handed down to their descendants, eventually it got lost due to the shaytaan(devil) twisting people minds and desires or maybe due to people being lazy with their faith.
After the message is lost, a couple decades/centuries later a new prophet (Idris [as]) with the same message but different rules(shariah) was sent, the message is lost rinse and repeat. Prophet were sent down like moses(as), Abraham(as), jesus(as) and the final prophet muhammad(saw). Currently muslims follow muhammad(saw) message, so you can see why the question is a bit difficult since we beilve islam always existed
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Yes that the true history that some people deny it
@@yacine_YI😂tawriya
Islam has been created since the time prophet Adam
I'm a bengali🇧🇩 muslim and my ancestors were Buddhist
Wow man you were so lucky
I’m a ex Christian from Ireland following the true religion buddishm only the real know :) god is within it’s the real truth go back to your roots my brother, life is a dance 😊
The Christian lady is the only one thay kept it real 💯
The others did not keep it real? What does “keep it real” mean to you?
@@mkf0being honest and truthful
@@karlscher5170 Thanks for the reply but my question was addressed to the person who actually wrote the comment. In this case, how do you know that the non-Christians were not replying honestly and/or truthfully?
@@mkf0 Assumptions, generalization and the demonization of Muslims in a nutshell.
@@karlscher5170read Genesis 17:20 before making comment, reads about Ismeal the father of Arabs before placing your idiotic comments
This video needs to be circulated more
I really enjoy your series.
With regards to the question. What most people do not understand is that the question that you asked is not clear enough.
When they answered your question they were being honest.
Muslims believe that the word of God was passed through the prophets of Islam which include Moses, Jesus and Muhammad. So when they looked confused it is because was not worded in a way that would make sense to them.
When you asked what religion your ancestors were before Muhammad they were correct by saying Muslim. It is the belief of Muslims that Moses was Muslim, and that Jesus was muslim.
If you had asked them what would people in modern times that are non-muslim, call their ancestors before Muhammad. Then they would Say Christians and Jews. If you asked them what religion were their ancestors before all the prophets of God they may say that they that there really was no organized religion, people worshiped idols.
Hope that helps. My knowledge is somewhat limited but it think that should answer your question and maybe also explain to the audience some of the nuances that may not be so clear to them.
Keep up the good work.
What it all comes down to is that we all are all brothers and sisters.
We are all the family on this planet, it's just that we sometimes have annoying siblings that can drive us nuts.
Your patience is so admirable. Communication is so much more than translation. Keep up the good work. This is great!
yes it is... He knows how to communicate with dumb people. I wouldnt have the patience to it and explain them their own history and heritage. 🤣
==From an Islamic position, Islam didn't start with Muhammed. Islam started with Adam.
==The followers of Abraham were Muslims, the followers of David were Muslims, the followers of Moses were Muslims, the followers of Jesus (not Paul) were Muslims, etc. By definition, a Muslim is one who submits to the creator. It's not that these people are being "insincere", it's that non-Muslims see Islam as the religion of Muhammed ( peace be upon him ), while Muslims see Islam as the religion of Adam and the religion of every true prophet of God.
== For your better understanding you should know the words these days like " J@w$ " and " Christians" we use to mean religion was not like that before. These words' original forms were used to mean a specific group of people for only that prophet { including the believers and non-believers of God ).
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The need to send Muhammad ( peace be upon him ) was to save Allah's creations from corrupt manuscripts like you have today and you can sense it by looking yours , you even don't bother about from who you get it or among so many B@ib0l which one is correct !!! 😪😪😪😪
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My friend, Islam isn't a race, it's the act of submitting to the creator. Allah isn't like "the God of Muslims". The word Allah literally translates to "The God", ie the God of all things that exist. If you read the Bible in Arabic, you'll see the word Allah being used for God. The language that Jesus spoke was Aramaic, and in Aramaic, the word for God is Alaha. The word Islam isn't in the bible because the bible's original language isn't Arabic. As per our paradigm, God sent messengers to all nations in their own languages. It isn't "appropriation", but rather it's an erroneous understanding of what Islam definitionally means. People who assume Islam is just another religion with their own God, etc are either misinformed or unwilling to learn. The question is problematic.
@@sasik225 your response shows how dumb you are. You can not force or make them to tell their stories to suit your stupid narratives. You are very dumb.
the translation is crap
@@sasik225genocidal zio spotted
The one Christian is much more open minded and accepting of the truth than the rest of the people interviewed nor did she denie the possibility of having Jewish ancestors and accepted the fact that the first religion (known and still lives) in that region was Judaism
Judaism and Christianity wasn't the only religion at that time. Some practice religion of their forefather Abraham, and these people were called "Hanif", and they were widely considered as being Muslim. Even long before Muhammad came, Arabs already called their god "Allah".
@@rrsharizam bs
@@bryanbradley6871 if you don't know, just say so
@@rrsharizam they called their god allah because its a semitic language that has one common root for saying god as in hebrew elohim and arabic allah. what religion are you talking about exactly? i am pretty sure before mohammad in the region there were only jews christians and polytheistic pagans
@@MeGaFaLLout then if you say there were only Christian and Jews, and pagans, what religion Muhammad was before he received revelation? I explicitly said there were "Hanif" before Islam it's not difficult to understand. It's the people who followed unnamed monotheistic religion before Amr ibn Luhay brought idols from Jerusalem and introduce paganism in Makkah.
Two answered that they trace themselves to Saudi Arabia, and one to Yemen. And no one knows the history of this land. Very nice ‘indigenous’ people right here
more indigenous than Eastern Europeans that claim ancestry yet their DNA doesnt show it😂
This is one frightening education system.. the joys of living in an Islamic state!
they have no concept of history before Islam and that is the heart of the entire problem to peace
Perhaps the question would be more clear if you asked what religion their ancestors followed before Muhammed was born and established Islam. The disconnect for them seems to be that they are unable to think beyond the historical founding of Islam.
Forgive my ignorance, when was Mohammed born?
Muhammed didn't "establish" Islam, just for your information. He was just a prophet. In Islam, it is believed that all the prophets since Adam were Muslims (the word Muslim in Arabic means: the one who submits to god) and everyone who believed in the abrahamic god before Muhammad were Muslims, all the messengers and prophets were of the same god. It's believed that there was a time where Christianity got corrupted where they started worshipping Jesus as a god but he was just a prophet. But not all christians believed that, some still believed in the uncorrupted religion, those were Muslims. One of Muhammad's mentors (the father of his first wife) was actually one of those uncorrupted Christians that's why when an angel visited Muhammed he was one of the first ppl to believe him because it was written in their bible.
There's actually nothing particularly "special" about Muhammed except that he was the last prophet. It is believed he was the last, because documentation was already well established in human society so, the truth will be recorded and will always be available for future generations to find it. So no need for prophets anymore.
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Good line of thought!
They actually hold that Islam always existed, but it was corrupted into Judaism and then Christianity which is why Mohammed had to come and correct it.
This really speaks to the education system they come from. The girl who sounded like she was from America was only one who seemed to understand the history
They literally do not live in reality. Without lies |slam dies.
That and the bald guy after
Oh my god. This is the danger of being lost in translation. First of all, Corey's translator is horrible I honestly have no idea how she became the translator she always frustrates me because of her very inconsistent and often flat wrong translation (I say this as a native Arabic speaker).
Secondly, the only girl who answered correctly, answered it because she actually heard the question from Cory himself without the stupid translator. He asked her could your ancestors have been Jews or Christians? and she answered that. Meanwhile the stupid translator asks people what translates to: "were any of your grandparents or family Jews or Christians that converted to Islam?" that's why Most people answer: "no my grandparent and their grandparents for at least a 100 years were Muslim, that's what we know" if you rewatch the video with this in mind, you'll notice that their answers actually make sense. The way they understand the question is "have your family been Christians/jews and then converted to Islam?" There was even a guy who said they were polytheist before becoming muslims and the stupid translator translated it as "No they were not polytheist, they were muslim" like what? the dude literally said they WERE polytheists. It's just a very hot mess caused by the translator mistranslating BOTH the questions AND the answers.
@@yuzan3607 interesting, what does she translate when he asks "what about before islam"?
@@ermining1 she actually translates it to "what about before Islam came to here/to Palestine?" a dude answered that "there was first Judaism and then Christianity and then Islam", another dude said "part were christians who remained christians and part were christians who became muslim", again both of their answers were mistranslated (you'd think the translator is deaf or has brain damage!). Another person was even explaining that he heard his family goes back to Quraysh (Muhammad's tribe) so they probably were Muslims even before Islam came to Palestine, and she translated it to "no, we were Muslims before Islam". And I already mentioned the person who said "before Islam we were polytheist" she translated it to: "we were never polytheist we were always Muslims". When you ask a stupid translator to translate, you WILL get stupid answers always.
I thought the Ottoman empire' way was "convert to Islam or die " .
Most of them were pagans , Christians and Jews
I feel like the question could have been phrased more effectively by starting with emphasizing that you're asking about 1400 years ago before the life of the Prophet, then ask where their ancestors lived then and what religion they practiced before islam existed. I think starting with asking if they were Jewish or Christians, or even more confusingly Jews and Christians, and not putting it into the wider context, you got a lot of unhelpful defensive answers.
Palestine was nearly entirely Assyrian Christian before Islam. And some Arab polytheists in Jordan.
yes ...i agree
@steven Actually, if we let go of the idea that scripture (any scripture) is literally true and instead we look at the wider historical context around and behind the stories of both Abraham and Moshe, look at archaeological evidence we have available, at textual evidence we have available, it seems more likely that IF Abraham and Moshe were real people and not legendary figures (which is honestly more likely) they both probably lived around 1800 BCE, just in different places, and weren't actually related. Their familial relationship was invented later to bridge the two stories into one.
I was going to say the same thing . They are not asking the question correctly. She is actually asking "What were your grandfathers before they became muslim"? Which doesn't make sense, of course they will answer muslim. Like you said . Ask what they were before 1400 years ago. Cheers
Are these people so uneducated they cant answer a simple question honestly?
I lived in Morocco for a few years and studied the history a little before going. The people there…even those well educated, believe and live as if there was no existence or history before Islam. It must be a way of thinking that permeates through the whole religion.
But Abraham is not a patriarch for Islam people?
The thing is as a Muslim, this question doesn’t make sense to us.
Our belief is that Islam as a concept (the meaning of the word being submission to the oneness of God) existed starting with Adam and Eve. The law is what has been different from time to time and some nations have left this idea of submission to idol worship or innovation or whatever, thus the need for Messengers to reaffirm monotheism amongst certain nations.
If you ask me if my ancestors were Muslim before the prophet Muhammad, there is one of two possibilities:
1. They were Muslim under Jesus (peace be upon him) or perhaps Moses (peace be upon him) before that, or Abraham, etc etc
OR
2. They strayed from the path of the messengers and began worshipping something else
But the real question is, how would I know that? If I know my ancestry as far back as the Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) and I know my ancestors accepted the message of the final messenger, I will assume they were Muslims under Jesus before him as that’s more likely seeing as they accepted the final message. But truly, I’d not know.
My default would not be to assume they rejected any messenger as that’s a negative assumption. Hence why most Muslims will say “our ancestors were Muslims”
The only people that would consistently answer this another would be people whose more recent ancestors reverted to Islam or people whose family name or village name is obviously Christian or Jewish, etc.
NO! That is ONE answer. And if you know nothing about religion, they will take that opportunity to try to influence your views and opinions.
If you know any history, YOU may be the one influencing the uneducated!
(Note from the end, it has a lot to do with what KIND of Muslim you were....!!)
Islam is a religion that can bring together Muslims of all races and colors, so that nothing becomes more important to them than Islam
@@lordlemmy5108That's incorrect! read the Koran!
When you have been lied to for generations.
Most of them don't understand the question.
DON`T TALK SHIT! THEY DON`T WANT TO UNDERSTAND THE QUESTION; 7 years in the region taught me a lot than you about the MENTAL POVERTY of islam.
This is why history is very important
What do you mean?
You mean History history written by white Zionists??
They have a very unclean perception of the reality that sometimes is funny and some others is scary. Three people answered to this question properly, all the others probably even believe that dinosaurs were Muslims.
Indeed its an islamic perception as islam existed wright from Adam through the Times.
they don't believe in Dinosaurs, to them it's a fairytale.
The way the question was asked is kind of stupid
Muslim means the one who submits to god
@@dudefrombelgium dinosaures were never believed to be first of things. Many things were before them.
What a great question!
This is so stupid question, it's like asking jews were your ancestors were pegans before abraham showed up
Abraham isn't a real person, it's a mythological character. And the answer is yes, of course, before Judaism Israelites and Judeans we were pagans like everyone else. Or more precisely we were Henotheistic like all of the ancient world.
i am kurdish from northen iraq, my family are muslims, my great great grandparents were jewish. We stil have jewish lastname. We have an ancestry test, it showed that our dna is 70% of ashkenazi heritage. Its really intressted, i dont consider my self a jews nor amuslim, 100% atheist but its intressting to read about it. Some people say kurdish jews in Iraq are one of the lost 10 tribes from Israel
You are
Very well could be, Interesting about your ancestry..thank you for posting
happens when the jews were exiled all over the world you can find traces everywhere
Kurdish jew are not part of the 10 lost tribe simply because they where never lost
I am in the US my grandfather was Ashkenazi jew ( largest population of jews today are Ashkenazi ) he came from Russian and ukraine area left before nazis got there during the ww2
“Who has family from 800 years ago?”
Everybody. Everybody has family from that long ago. Do people think their bloodline popped into existence randomly out of nowhere 100 years ago? If you’re alive, that means your parents were alive and their parents were alive and every single parent must have come from another parent who also lived…for thousands of years.
I think she means traceability
where did your family live 800 years ago?
Lol
Muslims don't worship their blood lines unlike Jews and pagans.
Obviously, but a demonstrable bloodline is hard to find.
It's funny how they perfectly understand the question, yet their Brain know it's better not to answer.
The interpreter did not use the proper word that’s why they’re all answering incorrectly.
The translator used a wrong term. And to most Muslims, Islam has always existed since the times of Adam
Most of them were pagen arabs, but we dont care what our ancestor belived in😂In the quran ALLAH says: And when it is said to them, "Follow what Allah has revealed," they say, "Rather, we will follow that which we found our fathers doing." Even though their fathers understood nothing, nor were they guided?
Fascinating to see that muslims don't want to admitt islam came after the two other religions.
Muslim consider Islam came with Adam ,the very first person and abarahim PBUH were Muslim and Before Muhammad PBHU both christian and Jews consider Muslim
@@Mirwankhilji It doens't make any sense. Before islam was invented by Mohamed, there were no muslims, that's just pure logic. Before Judaïsm came, there were no jews and before Jesus, there were no christians, that's exactly the same.
this came up in my home suggestions. i also went back to 4:40 to replay - because g00d- and kind-looking brother Hebrew brother, both. Rami also is kind, and great answer. Thumbed up.
I don't think people are lying, they genuinely believe the lies fed to them for decades and will be impossible to revert this.
No dude we believe Adam was Muslim Jews are defacto Muslim till Muhammad SAW
@@adamelghalmi9771they literally believe very different things than you. That isn’t how truth works. They’re either right or wrong, not right until 500ad
@@RatIsForRatthew dawg they believe the same things as me if they've read the Quran, so yes, my ancestors were probably not jewish, but probably pagan, maybe jewish tho. but that de facto makes them muslim
@@adamelghalmi9771 but they didn’t read the Quran. The Quran has twisted and changed many biblical stories to fit a different theology
@@adamelghalmi9771 you can’t rewrite history when they literally believe different stories than you 😂 where is your priesthood, atonement, Jewish holidays?? Your religions are contradicting. You can’t just act like it’s somehow not contradictory because Islam wasn’t founded yet
And the results are in… denial is not just a river in Egypt
Here's the correct word for this: Lying.
So they admit they are not the indegious people of Israël.
I speak Arabic, you should have added the sentence "before the rise of Islam or before the Prophet Muhammad" to the question, because they way they understood it is that you are speaking about their recent ancestry
Interesting. Thank you.
They perfectly understood the question...
@Shalom Shalom We use the same word, but don't mean the same thing.
Sister of Aaron daughter of imran would have understand the question lol
When saying Qabl al Islam - you can't interpret it any other way
Girl at 3:18 is wonderful. Wish you would interview her every time, she seems friendly and intelligent
The only Christian girl among the interviewees turns out to be the most sane and logical. What a shock!
@@didd2810 Muslims are the most delusional, I always knew. They need to learn common sense!
@@didd2810 May be a shock, but one could expect it.
It's because she's Christian.
@@EzraB123
Islamphobic.
I had a dna test, it came back as Palestinian with Samaritan, Druze, Algerian Jew, Lebanese Jew. Moroccan Jews and Ethiopian Jews as direct ancestors on my Dad's family and same with my mother with Ashkenazi (Russian, Hungarian, Polish, Belorus) and Sefardi from the Iberian. My Dad's dna shocked me. We knew about our mother. Really it should not have come as a surprise, my father's customs were very much the same as other Eastern Jews pre 1940s. I have a Christian ancestor, from my mother - Aelia, she is buried in Jerusalem. She was a Greek pagan who married into the Byzantine Christians.
The guy with the ginger beard has definitely got a Scottish christian ancestor.😂
Jews are known to be gingers. King David was a ginger
@@shainazion4073 he's a Muslim
@@shainazion4073 ashkenazi jews maybe yes but not the safardim or falasha jews. Ashkenazi are a mix of middle eastern and europeans . That's why there are jewish gingers amd not because some king was ginger
@@chrisabikhalil1774 Really? King David was a Redhead, Esau was born with Red Hair.
The only ancient scalp of hair ever found in ancient Israel was red, straight, male hair found in the Tomb of the Shroud, connected to the Jesus Tomb by DNA. A first century Jewish Tomb found by Dr. James Tabor.
As others have said, red hair is found among all races, even sub-Saharan African and East Asian peoples. That said, there is also undeniably Crusader blood in the Levant, just as there is Hun blood in Hungary.
I am shocked to see that only a few educated Palestinian know or at least accept the history.
I'm not shocked in the least bit.
This isn’t shocking at all, it is though, quite sad.
Why shocked? Most people didn't even undersand the question. Asking about ancestors of more than 1400 years ago is a non sense. It is an information that doesn't add any value.
@@Freiheiht313 while it is true that asking people about their ancestors of 1400 years go is a bit silly, these people are deluded if every single one of them insists that all their ancestors were Muslims going back for 1400 years (and, absurdly, even before).
Also, I suspect the question is being asked not so much in expectation that these people would actually know their ancestral history for 1400 years, but rather just to see if any would be willing to even entertain the (very likely) possibility that some of their ancestors weren't Muslims.
@@Proclivitytolifeno its a stupid question. They know islam is literaly built on judaism and christianity. They worship jesus ffs. If they said 'what were your family BEDORE ISLAM EXISTED' then itd be a better question, that still nobody would be able to answer because nobody knows about their family tree like that in the real world. Of course, this question was phrased as a stupid 'gotcha' moment because some of you keyboard hate warriors are looking for any ill informed excuse to further dehumanise these people.
How ridiculous that they don't know that Islam is so new
Islam is the oldest religion.
Qur'an 5:111 - And [remember] when I inspired to the disciples, "Believe in Me and in My messenger [i.e., Jesus]." They said, "We have believed, so bear witness that indeed we are Muslims [in submission to Allāh]."
Even the disciples of Jesus were Muslims.
Just shows how clueless they are about EVERYTHING.
Really appreciate what you are doing.
The ignorance of the Palestinian people is absolutely insane.
*violence
They’ve been lied to by their leaders for a very long time.
the violence of zionists is absolutely insane.
Free Palestine
@@bryson8918lmao
Your ignorance is
Jews are Muslims and Christians
Muslims definition is one who Submits to the will of God
So Jews Christians Muslims and many more
Interesting n smart inquiry.....
They don’t understand the question, it was translated poorly. She was asking about their grandparents, so they were answering truthfully
Ooooooo maybe this why they was all saying Muslim
You are a great guy Corey, thank you. We can see how ordinary people think & feel from your work & it gives us hope for peace & understanding.
Really intersting because it’s an absolutly essential question.
Thank you.
why? they are Muslim, Arab and Palestinian.. where does it matter what they're 1000 year old forefather claimed to be
What were your ancestors before what they are now? When you are Muslim, whatever you used to follow or worship before Islam is not something you wanna talk about. because it was a dark chapter in one's life.
Ginger dude definitely has European ancestors. They were either Christian, Druids, or something. .
We have a lot of ginger palestinians, lebanese and syrians. The DNA of that palestinian activist (I forgot her name), she was 100% levantine
ginger hair originated in central asia not in europe lol same with light eyes and blonde hair, none originated in europe
@@Jess-737 I've seen them too, about 20% of Lebanese can easily pass unnotice in Europe, with the Syrians that I've met a good 40% can. Palestinians about 20% too. Most middle easteners have small lips, you are confusing them with north africans who have about 20% black ancestry. In Latin America, most Middle Eastern Christians are considered white and no different from the white population.
@@carlosm.3426 your stating that as if it’s fact. In fact, scientists have not come to any consensus as to the origin point for red hair. It’s all conjecture at the moment.
@@MrPhotonjockey actually they have pinpointed red hair as coming from the original Northern Aryan tribes of Iran. They became travellers, spreading across the land into the Northern colder climates, where they faired better with their light skin and eyes.
Ha, what a brilliant a question. Bravo, well done.
I asked an Afghani the same question and he said that they worshipped some God of fire before Islam. He then asked me, and I said that we've always just worshipped our Ancestors and not other peoples God(s) for it would be like worshipping other people's ancestors instead of our own. He looked very puzzled after I answered him.
Majusi religion
No wonder he looked puzzled, your answer is very confusing, and doesn't seem to answer the question, as it names no religion .
@@intercommerce That's right, religion is made up.
@mansoorahmad2412
If the religion you follow is of your ancestors from the very beginning, then it is rightfully yours. If not, you belong to the children of that religion.
foolish argument , if you believe the religion came from God, it's not about other peoples ancestors, it's about the truth that came from God@@gumonmyshu
I've seen quite of few youtubes of Arabs doing reveals of their DNA tests with substantial amounts of Jewish DNA which they immediately ignore, while the embrace much smaller percentages of other ethnicities in their identity. I saw this especially among Lebanese Arabs.
They're insecure.
@@ammarlakis Oh, it's an ethnic group, too.
It contradicts a mindset influenced by propaganda that has the word Jew as an insult. Not in all cases, but in too many. I know many Lebanese, Egyptian, Indonesian Muslims who now live in N. America & we've had lengthy discussions. More curious, educated & open-minded people realize that we are all human, & the more we question, the better it is. @@goofygrandlouis6296
What should be understand. That those of Jewry actually arab. Not arab have some part of Jewry genetics . So when jewry genetics chek must be recognized as arab or mid east , german and some others european genetics❤❤❤❤❤❤
@@sulistyopudjo6433 Jews aren't Arabs, Jews are originally Canaanites, the ethnic group of the south Levant in the first and second Millennia BC. from the Roman conquest and in later centuries there were more conversion based additions to Judaism, from both Arab and European populations.
"They were islamic before islam existed" 😂
Cmon now...
Reminds me of a line said by 'Mathew Brady' from 'Inherit The Wind "...I dont think about things I don't think about".
Clearly one of the benefits of adhering to Islam is that it relieves the faithful from the burden of thinking!
This is an incredibly insightful video thanks! The philistines were probably of greek decent originally, there were many polythesic religions in the area (in Arabia too), Greek temples are in that part of the world so they could have been worshiping anything from a black asteroid to a greek god too.
==From an Islamic position, Islam didn't start with Muhammed. Islam started with Adam.
==The followers of Abraham were Muslims, the followers of David were Muslims, the followers of Moses were Muslims, the followers of Jesus (not Paul) were Muslims, etc. By definition, a Muslim is one who submits to the creator. It's not that these people are being "insincere", it's that non-Muslims see Islam as the religion of Muhammed ( peace be upon him ), while Muslims see Islam as the religion of Adam and the religion of every true prophet of God.
== For your better understanding you should know the words these days like " J@w$ " and " Christians" we use to mean religion was not like that before. These words' original forms were used to mean a specific group of people for only that prophet { including the believers and non-believers of God ).
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The need to send Muhammad ( peace be upon him ) was to save Allah's creations from corrupt manuscripts like you have today and you can sense it by looking yours , you even don't bother about from who you get it or among so many B@ib0l which one is correct !!!
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My friend, Islam isn't a race, it's the act of submitting to the creator. Allah isn't like "the God of Muslims". The word Allah literally translates to "The God", ie the God of all things that exist. If you read the Bible in Arabic, you'll see the word Allah being used for God. The language that Jesus spoke was Aramaic, and in Aramaic, the word for God is Alaha. The word Islam isn't in the bible because the bible's original language isn't Arabic. As per our paradigm, God sent messengers to all nations in their own languages. It isn't "appropriation", but rather it's an erroneous understanding of what Islam definitionally means. People who assume Islam is just another religion with their own God, etc are either misinformed or unwilling to learn. The question is problematic.
Yes, the phillistines were of Greek descent. However, DNA and archeological evidence shows they lived in modern day Gaza area for 200 years (around 600 BCE) but were eliminated at the time of the deportation of Jews to Babylon. There is no connection between the Philistines and the Palestinians. Actually, DNA has shown more connection between Palestinian Arabs and Palestinian Jews than Palestinian Arabs and the ancient Philistines.
@@johnfleming1476 pretty interesting I've seen some videos of Palestinians and some of them have really European features, red or blondish hair blue eyes etc that must either be of greek descent or of crusader genes
It was also part of Rome for a super long time.@@johnwilliams7999
@@johnwilliams7999the crusades
They can't even think for a moment that before Islam their ancestors were pagan...
Some were Jews, some Christian and others were pagan.
But they're answering they were Muslims before Islam... OMG.
From all those people only 3 answered in a logical way. The rest is having a very narrow thinking / had little to nothing history knowledge. Me being an Arab too I was in Arab school in Israel and they did teach us in history classes what was before Islam. Many were sleeping in those classes though. But to me it seems like they don't even mention that in Palestinian territories. Too proud to face reality?
كلي هوا عاد
Arabs didn’t live in Levant before 6-7 century, so pre Islam you have no history in this region
@@user-pi6oc4st4f today's Palestinians are mix of Arabs, Jews that got converted to Islam and Moab tribes. Arabs invading mixed with the local population that lived here. But seems like your dum dum brain doesn't understand that.
@@user-pi6oc4st4f Oh! Yes Mr Schwartz from Ukraine defo has history in this region with his little Eastern European cuisine of borscht, shchi & laktes?..STFU!🙄
@@user-pi6oc4st4f While true, we believe the ancient Bani Israel were muslims, so yes most of our ancestors were Muslim even before Prophet muhammad.
you see that head scarf. that means I cant NOT THINK
I thought the Same, head scarf don't study anyway, I was surprised she drove instead of the man, man probably was a weak arabb
Adam (the first man on earth) was Muslim. Ya’ll need to learn what Islam really means.
Absolutely not.
This is not true! Who told you something so profoundly stupid ?The religion begins with the original speaker . If Muhammad your false prophet was the first to speak on this religion than the religion began with him. Adam knew nothing of this religion nor did he ever speak on it . Even in the Christian bible Adam was not Christian because Christianity began with the original speaker Christ
The question partly lands erroneously in its Arabic translation. Ajdād (اجداد) is in fact the literal translation of ancestors, but it connotes quite more narrowly within the person’s - chiefly paternal - immediate family tree, typically not traveling beyond 4 or 5 levels. That explains the instances where the interviewer highlights “before Islam” but still the interviewee insists on the Muslimhood of her/his «ajdād». Because the question with all the stress on “before Islam” sounds like: «What was the religion of your last 4 or 5 fathers before they were Muslims?» Obviously, the answer to be expected is: «No, they were only Muslims». And the young Palestinian lady in the middle of this video who does speak fluent English, easily and instantly understands the question as it is, and plainly says: “Of course my ancestors might have been Jews, but who knows really,”
It is clear as day that before Islam the Arabs were idolaters,
At the center of religion during the Jahlia period, were the worship of trees and springs, demons and spirits, holy stones and idols, belief in gnomes and fortune tellers and the sacrifice of animals, foodstuffs and valuables. Each tribal group had its own gods, with a central god. The tribes had statues representing their idols, which they carried in their wanderings or kept in their homes.
The religion was syncretistic, meaning it combined different ideas and views into one whole, and recognized gods brought from outside.
"Allah", which in the Islamic period would be the name of the only monotheistic god, was in this period one of the various idols. He was not the only god, but he was considered the sovereign of the Kaaba, the sacred black stone in Mecca, later the holiest place for Islam. Allah is attributed fatherhood to three goddesses: "Allah" who was considered the goddess of the sun, "Aluza" and "Almanat".
The women were a financial burden on the family. In the case of the birth of too many girls in the tribe, it was customary to bury the unwanted babies alive. , they took stones from the black Kaaba and worshiped the stones, and to this day they surround the black stone, except this time they are praying to Allah
. Here is the evidence: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion_in_pre-Islamic_Arabia
The idols (daughters of Allah) are mentioned in the Qur'an in Sura 53 (Surah Al-Najm; Surah Ha-Kokhav), verses 19-20 - "Give your opinion about Allah and Al-Aza, and Mana, the other third. Do you have the male or the female?".
The goddess Manat (Manat):
Manat (Manat) is the most ancient goddess. Amr ben Lahai (Amr ben Lahi) is the one who brought the worship of this goddess to Arabia, he is considered the father of idols in Arabia. According to tradition, Manat was brought from the Levant (Al-Sham; Al-Sham). There is also another opinion, according to which it was brought from Moab.
Amr placed the goddess on a sacred stone in a place called "Kadid" (Qadid), which is between Mecca and Madinah. The two ancient tribes, Al-Awas (Al-Os) and Al-Khazraj (Al-Khazraj), believed in it. These tribes lived in al-Madinah. Despite the belief of the two tribes in idols, when the Prophet Muhammad arrived in al-Madinah after the Hijra, they were the ones who received him and supported him, and that is why they are still called al-Ansar (Al-Ansar; "the supporters"), the friends of the prophet who supported him upon his arrival in al-Madinah.
The pagan temple in Kadid became the place of pagan worship of these tribes. People would worship both Mecca and the goddess Menat in Kidid. The worship ceremonies in Kadid were held at fixed times usually after Hajj in Mecca. Gifts of silver and gold were also dedicated there to the goddess.
Those in charge of the pagan temple of Manat are called Sadna - Sadna (singular: سادن). The meaning of the term saden is "the one in charge of the temple". Those appointed were a kind of priests of the pagan temple. They also set aside for themselves a percentage of the gifts (given to the goddess) as a reward, from which they made a living.
When Mecca was conquered by the Muslims (headed by the Prophet Muhammad) in the 8th year of the Hijra, Muhammad ordered the destruction of the temple at Kadid as well as other temples in the area.
The name Menat already appears in Nabatean inscriptions from the 4th century AD. The Arabic script began to be used already in Nabatean inscriptions. Nabatean is a Semitic language which belongs to the Aramaic languages.
The origin of the name: Modern researchers have concluded that the origin of the name of the goddess Manat is from the Hebrew word "meni" which means fate / portion. [source needed]
Also, the name can come from the Arabic word "Mania" = fate, death.
From this etymological derivation the researchers concluded that Manat was the goddess of fate.
The goddess Ellath (lat.)
According to the composition of Ibn al-Kalbi (ابن الكلبي), the cult of Allah (اللت) entered the Arabian Peninsula shortly after the cult of Manat. The ritual center of Allah was in the city of Taif (طايف) which lies south of Mecca. The idols were brought from other places. Allah was represented in a white square stone that the members of the tribe of Thaqif (Thakif, one of the ancient tribes of Arabia) worshiped.
In the pagan worship as it is described in the early Muslim tradition, in the temple of the goddess Allah there was a covering for the stone of the goddess (just as the Kaaba is covered with a black silk cloth, and like the veil that covered the Ark of the Covenant in the Jewish tradition). This covering is called in Arabic Kaswa (kiswa; a kind of veil).
The entire area of the city of Taif is considered sacred because of the goddess Allah. In Arabic the word Haram ("Haram") means "holy area", similar to the city of Mecca which was considered holy due to the presence of the Kaaba in the city. The sanctity of a local house of worship ennobled the entire city. Ta'if was especially sacred in the eyes of the Thaqif tribe - they were in charge of the temple of Allah in the city.
Under the white square stone was a pit into which slaughtered sacrifices and gifts were thrown: silver and gold vessels. It is also called Beit Otsar.
The origin of the name Allah (Lat)
Several hypotheses have been put forward about the origin of the name:
Some believed that the source was ALILAT which appeared in ancient inscriptions. The researchers determined based on these inscriptions that it was the main god of the Arabs. Since it is close to the name Allah it was the main idol of the Arabs.
The origin of the name is اللAT (ILAT) - the feminine form of the word الله.
Another interpretation, according to which Allah was the name of a man from the tribe of Thakif, and that after his death Amr ben Lahai ordered to worship the white stone that the man was buried next to.
Goddess Elaza (العُزّى)
Elaza (العُزّى) was the latest goddess in the Arabian Peninsula. Her temple was in the area of Nakhala (نخلة) which is in the vicinity of Mecca. The tribe of Quraish and also some tribes in the north of the Arabian Peninsula who are called Macher (harmful) worshiped her. The Macher tribes (including the Quraish tribe) used to make a pilgrimage to the temple of Elaza to make sacrifices during the Hajj. The sanctity of the place was double at that time as both the Kaaba and the temple of Eleza were located in the same area. The area that was sanctified around the Al-Aza Temple was called Sakam (سقام). Near the temple of Elaza there were three trees that were considered sacred.
The origin of the name Elaza (العُزّى)
The root azze - azz - symbolizes glory / power.
Julius Walhausen identified[citation needed] the worship of Elaza in the Arabian Peninsula with the worship of the planet Venus[clarification needed]. Elaza is the planet Venus according to Wallhausen's conclusion. He expands on details about Venus and states that it was called by the Jews and the Syrian Syrians - Kokhbata ("the star") = the Kokhbat (a nickname for the planet Venus). And her
How is the proper way to ask the question?
@@fgtrhwu2 Perhaps something like: «Before Prophet Muhammed, what was the religion of Arabs living in nowadays Palestine and Israel?» The present question suffers not only from «ancestors» getting lost in translation, but also from the unnecessary overload of subconsciously triggering the politically sensitive Palestinians with the probable Jewishness of their background. Generally, asking any political/religious/historic questions from any typical Israeli and/or Palestinian, is sort of similar to an engagement in a psychoanalytical therapy with a headstrong patient - that same proverbial bull in the china shop.
Interesting. Isn't there an Arabic word for ancient ancestors?
@@onestrangeanimal3212 I have a relatively long reply above that might somewhat answer your question. But let me make it clear that my own languages are French and Persian. My Arabic is only a touch better than my broken English. But I assume there must be some significant lingual registers in authentic Arabic (الفصحی) to resonate as «ancestors» does in English; however, with all due respect for our beloved Arab/Palestinian fellow humans, I doubt whether one out of a hundred of them enjoys that altitude of sublime Arabic literacy.
Excellent question. Thanks a million for this video.
We didn't need this video for that, just a look at a map from Antiquity.
Most of the Mediterranean sea became Christian, once the Roman Empire swapped religion.
It remained that way, until it 1st fragmented between West and East (and as the Pope was getting stronger and stronger).
Then the hords of the muslim caliphates swept through, and massacred everyone (like they harass the Coptes today in Egypt). So basically Islam is a story of intolerance and violence.
How do they not understand that Islam only began about 1400 years ago, before that your ancestors had to be something else.
Qur'an 5:111 - And [remember] when I inspired to the disciples, "Believe in Me and in My messenger [i.e., Jesus]." They said, "We have believed, so bear witness that indeed we are Muslims [in submission to Allāh]."
Islam is the oldest religion. As you can see even the disciples of Jesus were Muslims.
@@fl5537exactly ان الدين عند الله الاسلام
Next question: do you think they spontaneously converted to islam or they were forced to?
From someone who speaks Arabic and English well, I can confirm that the idea of the question is not translated well in Arabic, so most of them understood the question wrongly.
Are they incapable of asking for clarification?
@alanharrison573 the question sounded like "are your grandparents Muslims? What about your grandparents parents?" The concept of being outside of Islam is embarrassing for Muslims and to speak of the people that came before then as being ignorant. Culturally it would be like asking someone 100 years ago why aren't your parents married? Can you tell us about other unmarried people and their bastard children. It's uncomfortable.
seen a couple of this man's videos and it seems to me that the translator gets very frustrated by his questions, I doubted she was asking the question correctly.
I haven't watched it yet but let me guess the answers... "we were Muslims" - "but before Islam?" - "no, always we were Muslim"
Muslim means the one who submit to god,so we belive Adam was the first muslim beacuse he sumbit to god😂learn before u talk😂
@@interestingyoutubechannel1 How can you submit to God if you don't follow his prophets or messengers? How would God communicate to you? If you are a Jew, you're failing to follow Jesus and Mohammed, peace be upon them both. If you are a Christian, then know Jews consider you polytheists. 😉
@@messi-mk3cq no you lie i am Muslim but bani Israel they follow torah of prophet moses and chariah of torah but islam in quran mean submission to god yes like the word nasara in quran mean the people who انصار الله or the people who are campanion of god and yahud or jew word in quran mean hado or people the one who are guided so this is like characteristics but religion of islam or last chariah came with prophet Muhammad peace be upon him the original habbitan are cannanit have there own mythology of worship baal and statue ect after that like quran tell us the story of bani Israel who god get them from egypte with prophet moses ect .. until they reash god order moses to tell to beni Israel to fight cannanit but they refuse to obey god so god punished them with 40 years of lost in desert but after prophet moses peace be upon him dead yoshua ibn non guid them and they enter the holy land yes and they split and creat kingdom of judea ... but for Palestinian i don't know where they come from so islam is last religion enter to holy land
@Paul Blart I heard that the dinosaurs were also Muslims is that true?
@@interestingyoutubechannel1 we know the first mab on earth prophet Adam peace be upon him was a muslim. As definition of muslim is submission to ALMIGHTY GOD . and believe him one and only LORD who is the creator of the universe and everything in it
good question , GG
Best question ever! Congrats!!!!
I once asked a *Palestinian woman* if the *Gaza Strip* was *really part of Palestine or* should it really *be part of Egypt:*
and she was visibly uncomfortable before she hesitated to answer *"yeah, yeah... Gaza is Palestinian too."*
The westren world has its own philosophy about God etc and refuses to hear what the Muslims have been saying for nearly 1400 years. The man who made this video is simply portraying just that... For Muslims Abraham was a Muslim , Moses was a Muslim and all the prophet were Muslims, Islam did not start with Muhammad that is what they believe in however the westren world has no ears to hear what the Muslims believes in so they raises ocnfused question and get confused answers ha ha ha ha ha.
No matter if you're Arab Palestinian, Caucasian or White. If you born there and your ancestors have been there for hundreds of years, so they have right for that land right?
Thanks!
The translator roasting the question 💀
At the beginning there were Jews and Polytheist. Then a big part of the Jews became Christian,the rest remained jewish. One part of polytheists became jewish and one part Christian.Maybe there was a little minority of remained polytheists. Later on with the raising of Islam a part of the Christians and Jews,as well as polytheists became muslim.
Jew just means tribe of Judah or south kingdom, not a religion. Monotheist and polytheist/pagan it should be.
Jew is judea where you come from like londoners why they called everyone jews likely king did it to bring the people together
No,, every one was Goddess worshippers and we still are look up on line Pagan Moots /gathering in your city you will be amazed Come on I Ashy have taken on priests in cathedral's Durham cathedral was best the priest wen blood red and staggered away A huge crowd had gathered in the Nave as i recounted christian bible stupidity
A lot of the jews were banished from their homeland under reign of emperor Titus, due to the failed revolts against the Roman Empire. Some remained, and continued to practice Judaism but had to play a low profile to not get in trouble with the Romans. Most left or were forced to leave as part of a big diaspora. Some that remained may have converted to Christianity as that eventually became the main religion of the Romans, but I think the majority of the jews who remained in the Levantine regions such as Judea/Palestine continued to be jewish. Persecution of jews was less extreme after the empire became Christian, compared to the times of Titus, but it's not to say it didn't happen and it would have been better to play a low profile.
And you lost the fact that all Muslims came from polytheists. “Allah” was the moon god of those polytheists. The entire Koran is an amalgam of the polytheist religions and the new Koran which was copied from the Christians and from the Jews. Mohammad knew he had fro include the polytheist gods in the Koran in order to get them into his invented religion
This is a wonderful topic and people should be proud of that we all are, we are all here today someone in the past fought or at least Survived to keep our familys lineage alive, that is something we can all celebrate TOGETHER
how concerning is the fact most of them don't even get the question...
תודה!
I support you ! continue these amazing videos, they are an heritage that people will watch centuries later or will even be used in history classes ! mucho love from Algeria
He is one of a kind!
Thoughts on Jews?
Well and of course all wrong, before vile Moses all this land was Polytheist Pagan Its all in bible the vile destruction by Moses on the Canaanite tribes want the verses?
@@niro6492 very intelligent people ! israel is a country of science
@@lalove4574 thanks appreciate people like you..every Algerian I have spoken to before really hates Jews..
Most people clearly misunderstood the question. They could not think of their ancestors as being older than Islam. Perhaps a more understandable way to ask this question would have been: Were your pre-islamic ancestors living in Palestine Christians or Jews?
Agree. The question was not asked properly. "Before Mohammed, what religion did your ancestors have?"
@@BFGUITAR We believe the ancient Bani Israel and the first Christians were muslims, so yes most of our ancestors were Muslim even before Prophet Muhammad
@@alshami7456 Your answer is a theological one, and that is fine. But the question is, what did those pre-Islamic people actually practice? They could be Muslim souls, but they did not yet practice Islam since it wasn't yet brought into the world. Depending on the location, it was probably either Judaism, Christianity, Zoroastrianism, or some other pagan belief. I believe that was the question Cory meant to ask, but he will have to chime in to confirm.
@@BFGUITAR ah yeah that's better
They could not honestly answer that.
Muslims are from Arabia. They know that if they said their ancestors were originally Jews, they would be admitting Jews are the indigenous people of the Land and Arabs are not.
This was interesting
How about asking Jews of what they were before Judaism !
The lack of education about their own history is just sad
Or hilarious.
Same with Khazaria
THEY KNOW ONLY ISLAM😆
@@1adamuk or scary
Don't be dumb.....they answer according to their belief.....Islam claims that Islam was always there and all humans are born Muslims but their parents converted them to other religions.....that's why someone who's converted to Islam is called a revert.
That Jibreen fellow looks like his ancestors were kidnapped from Ireland by Barbary pirates and eventually converted.
I feel like people are not answering the question honestly because they are afraid to be tricked. It is obvious that they were either Christians, polytheists, or Jews, no one can really know for sure the history of their family from 1200 ago. I do know for my case, but it's a super special case.
Had the translator sweating on this one. Lol
Amazing questions as usual, but equally amazing, scary even, is the blind and almost willful ignorance of people who respond. Because the answer is comfortable, they indulge in it.. there is not even the slightest interest in critical thinking… just compliance. Comfort in compliance.
Same goes for many episodes where the lack of curiosity in finding any sort of truth is truly stunning. We are so fucked t
I don't think it's that deep not many people know their lineage going back 1500 years
The question is problematic. From an Islamic position, Islam didn't start with Muhammed. Islam started with Adam. The followers of Abraham were Muslims, the followers of David were Muslims, the followers of Moses were Muslims, the followers of Jesus (not Paul) were Muslims, etc. By definition, a Muslim is one who submits to the creator. It's not that these people are being "insincere", it's that non-Muslims see Islam as the religion of Muhammed, while Muslims see Islam as the religion of Adam, and the religion of every true prophet of God.
@@TheRockeyAllen but isn't that part of "willfull ignorance"? meaning, you should know what your religion tells you to believe, but also what is real. one must realize that religion is pure propaganda, and so muslims are told that everyone is muslim no matter what, so that they are made to feel confident in their religion.. but that if every other religion disagrees.. then it must not be true. to be blind to this.. to look at humans pre-mohammed and call them "muslims" means that these peopel dont' study anythign except their holy book. maybe this is just how deeply religiou speople are, they don't read anything else to check/contrast what theyre fed??
@@alexioflexio8818 So, how do you think the universe came into existence? Did the universe create itself? Or was it created?
@@TheRockeyAllen i'm not sure, and while i don't think anyone has the answer, i tend to believe the scientific answer which currently is big-bang. I allow that there could be a being who has created all of this. I don't believe that in this tiny spec of a planet, that in the past few thousand years, some humans wrote some books, killed massive amounts of people to intimidate or force others to believe in these books as the absolute truth, is in fact, the truth. I see willfull blindness, and fear, which drives people to seek out absolute answers because they are comforted by "knowing". I know we don't know, and i'm happy with that uncertainty.. as scary as the thought of no afterlife may be to me.
Bro, All of their Ancestors were Christians. Islam literally was BORN from Christianity, and I don't even go to church. This is how wars are started bro.