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- čas přidán 4. 09. 2015
- Did another track day at Cadwell and this time ended up with a CEL on the R8 and something a bit worse than that on the GT86.
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All those that say that it was down to being a bad driver, I say: He didn't need to show the incident at all, it takes a big man to admit to a mistake, and an even bigger man, to show it in a vlog. Hope all was well with the car.
That really sucks man. Hey, at least it wasn't the R8.
Theres no one who has the right to say you dont know how to drive, you clearly do, it was just a very unfortunate mistake. And I think almost everyone agrees that we feel bad for you. I hope theres no structual damage. Cheers mate.
Maybe the check engine light in the R8 was a God send?
Not sure how it could be at all lool since it caused him to get the the more dangerous and less controllable Gt86...unless maybe Chris has done something wrong and he's been punished.
+QuadHawk8 This crash would never happen on the R8 because not only the R8 has a locked H pattern shifter which prevents accidental gear changes it also has a much wider 2nd gear.
+S Miller you've got a bit of sweetcorn stuck in your teeth there
To be honest, that was a brilliant reaction and analysis of the crash. Didnt get super mad and pissed off, just like 'Awh fuck'. Just one of those things i guess, cant be helped. At least theres one positive, theres going to be a load of updates on insta and youtube on the rebuild progress lol
It's the change of car that did for you. The mechanical shift gate on the Audi appears to require a more deliberate movement left to shift down. You've made a similar movement with the 86 changing down on what was only your 2nd lap. Maybe you'd not yet recalibrated the muscle memory. It's difficult to change car mid session. Reckon you should send the repair bill to Audi 😃
+Stan Hawrylak Yeah he even says it's difficult switching to the Gt86 from the Audi. He even called it before the crash.
+Stan Hawrylak I think you nailed it exactly.
+Stan Hawrylak Yeah, I was thinking the same thing. He shifts with a gorilla grip (probably a byproduct of the Audi) and gorilla grips tend to remove the ability to read the gates on Japanese transmissions which typically require a softer touch.
not going to lie I thought the headlights looked cooler when there were smashed in.
ugh sorry to see this.... glad everyone is ok though...
Lets do 1 minute of silence for the 86.
I like this video. Cause this driver is brave to put his own failure video on line.
Wait. So was that a crash at around 80 mph? If so, the FRS/BRZ/GT86 seems like a really safe car.
+S.M.P yep top safety pic for 2014 and 2015
one of the few to pass the new small overlap test.
that was one hell of a wollop
I was expecting the whole front to be smashed, but that didn't seem to be the case.
that kind of crash are always be less dangerous. hit another car in front, or a pole, probably be much more dangerous, even in this car.
"Should have stayed at home" haha too funny! Glad you have a sense of humor with something like this.
Saw that on Facebook... Lucky it wasn't the R8!
Good to know you were not hurt. Humans always make mistakes. Good luck with the car.
I love a gated gearbox more than almost anything else in the world, that clinking sound and precision jiggles my jimmy!
hey when you're racing stuff happens and at least it happened on a track where you really minimize doing harm to anybody else. Bad day at the track but hey, we all learn from our mistakes!
I love hearing the "snicker snicker" of that beautiful R8 shifter gate.
Fair play to showing us this video, most people would hide in shame! U live and learn and move on.... Get it fixed and get back on the track 👍
Unlucky mate, good thing it was the GT86 and not the R8
In my opinion its really cool of you that you show that accident and explain the reason. It takes guts to be so honest and not end the video with the r8 scenes. Thx for that, good repairs and luck in future.
I know the track from project cars and the r8 slide after the small uphill session is there too even on a gt3 car in the game. Tricky sessions with left right corners so.... Great r8 driving and a humanistic fault in the gt86.
Check yourself before you wreck yourself
Pro backyard mechanic tip for bent up chassis parts. Grab a chain or strong ass ratchet straps, double em up and anchor it from your car to a tree. 2nd drive forward putting slight slack in the chain, then reverse semi-quickly hopefully unbending said part.
Argh -- unlucky. At least you walked away! Impressed how calm you were by the way.
Some great noises in the vid, but my favourite one is the cla-click of that R8's gearshift: lovely.
Made exactly the same mistake in my Integra Type R. On Lydden Hill Circuit coming down the hill into the right hander past the pits, 8600 RPM in 3rd go to change into 4th and got second, cue 10,000 RPM and many valves coming out of tune.. Managed to drive car back 50 miles, needed new head gasket and valve train overhaul. The lesson I learnt from that day, don't rush gear changes and try to remember it's a track day and not a race... As many people have said, we all make mistakes.
Really unlucky. Honestly just one of those things that happens. Incredibly fortunate that no one else was involved and hopefully you're not too beaten up (physically and financially!). Keep up the great videos and sharing both of your passions for cars!
Rob
Wow, that looked crazy! That's one of those moments that your brain won't ever forget, that feeling of loosing the wheels and instantly knowing where your car is pointed and the speed of which your going. I hope you recovered well from this!
Glad that you're ok. Sad for the GT86, as some people said at least, it's not the R8!
Perfect attitude, acknowledge your mistake, learn from it and deal with the aftermath later. You're completely right that we all make mistakes and that's no reason to end your participation in the sport. I too have done over 100 track days and killed a 350z when I was a rookie. Like you I made a simple mistake in a very bad place and it cost me a car. I actually wish I had video of it and commend you for post this for others to learn from, well done.
Note to self... Never follow X Bow into corner!
"Don't bring a car to a track unless you're prepared to leave it there."
Ouch. :( Props on keeping your cool. I hope you won't be hurting too badly, either.
at least you are fine dude. I once turned off all the traction control of my BRZ and I pushed the gas pedal way too early in the corner when the tires were still cold. So, I spun for a couple of rounds and hit the barrier at much lower speed than your case, that costed me to repair of the left fender and repaint of the front bumper. I hope that your chassis is fine dude.
+Pae Jariyapan damn that sucks, but yeah I guess happens to almost everyone at some point. Glad your repairs weren't too bad
Great channel bud subscribed! Ouch that shift lock I though you were about to do an epic drift damn those gears are close together by the looks of it! How do you mount your camera, and is it a GoPro? Footage looks great nice work bud, I would love to come to Cadwell soon looks like a cool track so much elevation change! Cheers ML
+MONKY LONDON MONKY LONDONNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN
+divizionx yo brooooooo
That was some proper engine overreving... Glad no one got hurt
i love that cayman ahead of the R8, looks like some serious money has gone into that thing.
+CAMO RAY Maybe 911 engine swap? Damn good pace for a cayman.
Eugene Hvorostyanov I never thought about that, definitely seems possible judging by how fast that thing flies around the track, but who knows what's inside that thing.
I hope you're alright mate. Your neck must be sore! It was a big shunt man.
+Robert Skuriat yeah it was the day after, but fine now :)
That's a bloody good synchro let you change from 5th to 2nd gear without noticing anything! Wish my gearbox was that smooth!
My commiserations.... Thankfully you weren't hurt.
"Wrap's peeling off a bit" - You have to replace it now, every cloud and that...
Cadwell park looks dangerous, kinda like the Nordschleife - if you make a mistake - pay the full price, no run off grass/gravel/tarmac. Great track for TV/video game, but harsh for RL practicing.
You need to pick a different track, one where you'll not be afraid to push yourself and the car, but at the same time one that will not punish you like that. Commiserations again!
+borsch21 Yeah it is quite a harsh track, but the only other one anywhere near me is Blyton and I've done that loads and got kind of bored of it (very flat, pretty small)
You were super chill wtf XD I would of fucking cried
Bad luck man, you are ok that's what matters.
Big respect for the way you handled that, i would have been screaming mad.
please do a timelapse of taking off the panels n stuff
+Brandon Clarke already started editing it :)
fuck yeah hey if its real fucked you can tube the front like a mlg drift kid lol
To be fair in general you can drive. Always more fun to watch bikes on the mountain though.
Bad luck mate, wish you all the best
Man you are the chillest guy ever
Your shifting was so perfect and smooth in the R8. I am sure it is tough to jump in back to back cars and get it right.
He pushed the shifter .. damn.. it centers automatically, you sorta have to just shift down w no force ..fuck.. crazy shit glad you alright
Woops. Bad luck mate. Happens to the best of us. Love watching you ragging that R8, its a beast. At least you are going out there and having fun. Hope the damage wasn't too serious, and wasn't in the R8. I guess you did have insurance right?
+Benjamin Copeland nah insurance doesn't cover you on track, unless you buy special track day insurance but I've never bothered with that (and with the amount of track days I've done, if I had it at every one it would have cost a fortune by now). So I'll just have to pay for the new parts myself but hopefully it won't be too expensive
+DedicationBlog indeed. Yeah, that is interesting to know because its hard to get decent track day insurance. I only found it with specialist insurance, where they give you a set amount of days. Do you risk driving the R8 un-insured as well then?
Unlucky! Ain't your fault... Things just happen for the hell of it..
+imm Wheezy what did happen did he jam it into 2nd instead of 4th
+Big Irish never mind he did
Ooh.... Bad idea driving to completely different motors back to back like that.... Should have called it a day after the r8 fault... It was a sign!
It happened to me at the Chicane in Spa. Way slower, of course, so it was easy to counter steer and regain control. Actually, I was in the right gear (second) but my foot slipped from the clutch pedal. Those stock pedal are quite slippery, especially the rest pedal.
+arioz1 yeah I've noticed they can be a little slippery too, especially with any mud or water on your shoes. Glad you were ok anyway
Woah man.... good thing youre alright!
Keep racing... swag
God damn that gated shifter is perfection
the things I would do with that gated gearbox lol ! But that's an active demonstration on what an unsmooth downshift looks like in rear wheel drive.
I'd have missed a gear too if I had to shift with the wrong hand ;)Good driving in the R8 V10, great too see some of these cars with proper manual boxes!
Well that blows. Good to see you are fine though. Simply bad luck on this one, a mistake at the wrong place on the track :( Hope the chassis isn't damaged as that would be pretty costly.
shit happens, it could have been worse, and i am amazed of how well you handle it. you learned something and i learned something from this as well and am sure many others did too. i wish luck with the damage inspection hopefully its not too bad.
chin up, it can happen, its just life, you are alright, no worries. Best of luck man
i love that shifter sound!
That suck man dont think your bad driver at all you are one of the best I watch on youtube period. I did the same thing when I got my manual car a few days ago luckily I was just cruising in fifth and not full throttle like you lol hope you get her fixed soon!!!
+MustangMatt haha thanks, but I know I'm no pro racing driver. I'd like to think I'm not a complete n00b though after doing so many track days in so many cars, but I'm sure a lot of people will disagree after seeing this video lol
Gutted for you, time to turn it into a proper track slag!
+Tim Mather haha track slag ftw
Switched to second gear accidentally, and locked up when he let of the clutch at that speed. I've had accidental gear changes happen to me from time to time. Man, that was rough to watch! Also, you aren't joking about the stock tires. They are so slippery.
It's lovely to see someone put their supercar to proper use on the track, but I don't know how you have the balls especially on such a narrow track like Cadwell with no run off! Looked like a nasty off in the GT86 but at least it wasn't the R8 ;-)
Sorry to see that, I hope the damage isn't too bad. It will be a shame if it's a write off.
I just learned how to heel & toe this year in a Chinese made MG, never did a track day before. But if I do, I would prefer a 5 gear shift, cause in the 5th you never have to dog-leg to 4, you just pull it back and there is no 6 in the way. And apparently there is no risk to get into 2 as well. Glad you are ok anyway.
awesome track! god the r8 felt fast... that 2nd gear shift lock happened so fast holy shit!
Chris Im sorry to see this!! I work at a Toyota Dealer in Manchester (bury) if theres anything I can help with then let me know!
D'oh! Bad times, we've all done it (wrong gear) just unlucky it happened right there. Your reaction to the GT86 (generally regarded as a good car) after driving the V10 R8 (a rather excellent car) is why I am determined to stay put with my shonky modified/ruined mx5. Once you start climbing the ladder of performance vehicles its going to suck as soon as you come down a rung or two. I'll stay near the bottom thanks!
Unlucky on the crash mate, we have all done the wrong gear change, I did it in my GTI, 4th to 2nd gear at 90mph, lucky for me it was in a FWD car, and I was in a straight line. That R8 is a weapon, lovely car.
8:47 Love the ''Crash and Carry'' sticker on the recovery truck lol
Done that before in my "Real" AE86 during a race, but didn't lose it thankfully!
Ouch glad you're ok. Good thing it was your track car and not your R8. Which is more fun on the track?
+xtravisxmanx hmm they both have their pros and cons. The R8 is fun because its just so much faster than almost everything else on the track and has so much grip in the corners as well, but the gt86 is more fun for getting little oversteer moments and pushing the car more to its limits. I think the 86 will be a bit better on track once I get some new brakes fitted, as the current brakes don't feel great
Knock on wood that nothing happens to the M235i
Glad I drive on the left hand side, it seems like shifting with your left arm makes this happen more often.
Feel for you. The money shift is always in the back of your mind when driving a manual on track.
Almost lunched the engine in my old Cayman S due to a missed shift.
Bloody hell Chris lucky you are ok mate.
Damn, sorry that happened. That hurt to see and my stomach dropped for you. Glad to see you were okay though.
Ahh man, thats awful. Glad you are okay.
hey mate, did you go to woodhall spa with an s14 and a 350z earlier this week? just wondering because I saw a gt86 just like yours
+HellaTandems I did indeed :)
I think what's happened is since you were in that R8, you got used to the gears being more far apart from one another, and then you got into your car and maybe you lost balance. I know it's a stretch because you've had that car for so long, but it happens.
Hope youre alright. That looked more painful than i thought it would have been.
At least you're safe bro
This is what would make me want a paddle-shift/dual clutch for the track tbh.
Could happen to anyone, hope it gets sorted and the GT86 rides again!😎
Great video. I have bad luck with cars, this makes me feel better
Thanks for the video. Its always good to learn from others.
Hope it gets fixed and back up running soon
Nice driving on the R8, and geez, seriously quick shifts, wow. Bummer about the GT-86. Hope your neck was and is okay and all? Got rear-ended recently (as the co-driver only tho, wasn't my car) and had neck problems for almost a month, and that was at a much lower speed…
one of the best videos I've watched in a very long time!
im actually surprised. That seemed like it was a decently hard hit, and the car didn't look too bad off afterwards
That track looks amazing, but also very unforgiving.
Damn that sucks man don't feel to hard on yourself everyone makes mistakes :)
This probably shows a danger of switching cars during a track day, and the shift-lever centering springs on a GT86 aren't very strong.
Gutted!.. Just glad you're alright.
Damn... 5th to 2nd? pretty sure that avo kit didn't help make pleasant neither
On that corner you don't need to change down. Keep it in the higher gear and keep foot down throughout until the right hander at the top...
Even changing to fourth may have been enough to spit you off especially given the new "boosted" nature of power delivery of your GT86.
It happens to everyone mane. If you've never crashed, that means you are not going fast enough. Be glad you can afford to keep going, others have ended a potentially great career because of stuff like this and lack of funds. Cheers
Eventually dropping right from fifth to second gear is the reason that caused the crash.I advise you to pull it right down when you down shift from fifth to fourth.You shouldn't have to move your hand to left.Looks pretty lucky for its speed though.Hope you're ok and your nice ride bro.