What was the first 600pp play?

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  • čas přidán 21. 01. 2020
  • Sometimes simple questions don't have simple answers, and in this case there's a few technicalities at play. I also made this video at 3am again so sorry for the oopsies. Also something, something, viewing history through different lenses can tell us different things, blah, blah.
    #osu! #osuhistory
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Komentáře • 120

  • @thotsi
    @thotsi Před 4 lety +230

    5th school of thought: the first 600 and 700 pp plays were on pendulum - watercolour :]

    • @account-pd4fi
      @account-pd4fi Před 4 lety +1

      can you please explain, 2018 player here

    • @SenpaiDeoxys
      @SenpaiDeoxys Před 4 lety +1

      hly the ogs remember

    • @kaminaari5999
      @kaminaari5999 Před 4 lety +13

      @@account-pd4fi Basically there was that map, that was ranked during the change between ppv1 and ppv2 and got bugged, so it started pulling out insanely high pp plays

    • @account-pd4fi
      @account-pd4fi Před 3 lety +2

      @@thotsi sorry for being late, thanks a lot for response!

  • @guskiezi
    @guskiezi Před 4 lety +56

    Damn. You talking about 2015 like a distant era made me feel old. I remember when i started playing in january 2015 days before rrtyui done his 1 sliderbreak run on image material.

    • @brenduck
      @brenduck Před 4 lety +2

      i used to check the big "final boss" maps every day, and i remember waking up and seeing that S rank and freaking the fuck out

  • @EtienneYT
    @EtienneYT Před 4 lety +92

    This question also depends on how you value the pp system now and whether or not you agree with the changes made to it in the first place, because the pp system is going to be very convoluted until there's actual efforts to constantly updating it, thus a first pp goal play is probably never going to properly answered. The concept of qualified maps giving pp originally and then not once the map was unranked was silly too, so if the map eventually ended up being ranked, then index's should more or less count.
    Idk, there's too many factors/flaws with the way Osu handles the ranked section of things so they make it impossible to answer these types of questions lmao.

  • @yesman4974
    @yesman4974 Před 4 lety +50

    _index 607pp no doubt. It's technically the first 600pp play

    • @nitfen
      @nitfen Před 4 lety

      а сейчас с его пальцем пиздец и ему больше не играть(

    • @donasmy2750
      @donasmy2750 Před 4 lety

      Nitfen что с его пальцем ?

    • @nitfen
      @nitfen Před 4 lety

      @@donasmy2750 уже ничего

  • @liliancore_
    @liliancore_ Před 4 lety +45

    4:33 as soon as you brought up the first 8* FC i was preparing for "OHH DAT FC" and i fucking cheered
    also, i forgot what was the deal with xilver ice angel? wasn't that one of the first 600s

    • @kyoshideath7841
      @kyoshideath7841 Před 4 lety

      iirc it was also one of the first 600 and it got nerfed to 590 or so shortly after being set, but I'm not sure at all...

  • @NatiiixLP
    @NatiiixLP Před 4 lety +44

    As a 2013 player, it pains me to hear 2015 being considered ancient history.

    • @jomkae9677
      @jomkae9677 Před 4 lety +4

      so you are a veteran.

    • @RemixSpace
      @RemixSpace Před 4 lety

      same lol

    • @takaga2236
      @takaga2236 Před 4 lety +5

      as a 2015 player it pains me that im becoming an "old" player

    • @fraghop4123
      @fraghop4123 Před 4 lety +10

      @@takaga2236 as a 2019 player, it pains me to hear im a osu zoomer

    • @ciru.
      @ciru. Před 4 lety

      @@takaga2236 idk about that

  • @mateomontali3876
    @mateomontali3876 Před 4 lety +1

    Dude Nice vídeo i actually like it the reflexión of what was the first 600

  • @JennyDarukat
    @JennyDarukat Před 4 lety +15

    Hey I remember that

  • @deciduousgames8350
    @deciduousgames8350 Před 4 lety +2

    _index’s play on The Last Journey Home. It deserves more respect.

  • @account-pd4fi
    @account-pd4fi Před 4 lety +2

    that would be amazing if you or someone else made a full pp record history video from before the time pp was even a thing. i would enjoy yo know what players could back then, and what was the "meta" back then if it existed

    • @BowieProYT
      @BowieProYT Před 4 lety

      So like tp records?

    • @kaminaari5999
      @kaminaari5999 Před 4 lety

      When I started playing in late-2015 the meta were monstrata's triangle jumps.

  • @owojimmyyuchen8093
    @owojimmyyuchen8093 Před 4 lety +20

    What was the first 100PP play🤔

    • @yv1421
      @yv1421 Před 4 lety +43

      Probably a play by cyclone

    • @owojimmyyuchen8093
      @owojimmyyuchen8093 Před 4 lety

      bryce I see,thx

    • @fl6yy
      @fl6yy Před 4 lety +3

      owo Jimmyyuchen at the time of such plays, pp didnt exist, the oldest pp milestone to date is cookiezis play on some dragonforce map

  • @weabowoshi
    @weabowoshi Před rokem

    still a goated video

  • @justanobody1726
    @justanobody1726 Před 4 lety

    i think it should always be seen with the system as it was then so i think index got it first since it showed on his profile back then regardless of it becomming unqualified later

  • @hikaenism
    @hikaenism Před 4 lety +2

    index 609,end

  • @mynion24100
    @mynion24100 Před 4 lety +5

    The real question is, what was the first pp farm map? (For me a "pp farm map" is a map made with the purpose of giving easy pp like any harumachi clover)

    • @fastao4219
      @fastao4219 Před 4 lety

      I don't know the true 'first pp map' but i know that from early pp mapping, it would lilkely be Daidai Genome

    • @MasterAnimit
      @MasterAnimit Před 4 lety

      Lust's Daidai Genome if we considered this as "made to break PP system"
      Luerxa's Koigokoro if we considered this as "accidentaly fits to PP system and shows his pros and coins"

    • @purrplaysLE
      @purrplaysLE Před 4 lety

      Master Animit You mean Lust’s Daidai Genome?

    • @MasterAnimit
      @MasterAnimit Před 3 lety

      @@purrplaysLE Yes, my apologize

  • @alibitter6361
    @alibitter6361 Před 4 lety +2

    DAT FCEE!

  • @sillyjobbernowl
    @sillyjobbernowl Před 4 lety +3

    As sad as it is to say I totally forgot _Index was a guy. Hit me with them feels.

  • @tecphin6466
    @tecphin6466 Před 3 lety

    What was the first ppv2 score?
    What was the first score by a player?

  • @dpspheonix6473
    @dpspheonix6473 Před 2 lety

    It was the Tsukina DTHD by Index in 2008

  • @LeaveItAsBlank
    @LeaveItAsBlank Před 4 lety +37

    What was 2k pp player was back then?

    • @thotsi
      @thotsi Před 4 lety +3

      like 20k ish

    • @shitplayer
      @shitplayer Před 4 lety +2

      Azer's blue zenith Kappa

    • @kxxlzr
      @kxxlzr Před 3 lety

      @@thotsi jesus. i have 3.4k pp rn and im rank 109k

    • @thotsi
      @thotsi Před 3 lety +1

      @@kxxlzr yeah, but try getting to 3.4k pp off of only the maps available in 2015! :)

    • @kxxlzr
      @kxxlzr Před 3 lety

      @@thotsi your right! I actually never thought of that lol (no sarcasm)

  • @Akkuto
    @Akkuto Před 4 lety +16

    Rank is broken I've been decaying for 3 years and I've only gotten better. Last Journey home was first 600 change my mind

    • @Codeslamer7
      @Codeslamer7 Před 4 lety +11

      pp is quite a mess, but it isn't just that. For 3 years, everyone else has been getting better too, and there are endless more players now vs then

    • @coluurs5660
      @coluurs5660 Před 4 lety +3

      - Akkuto - yeah you’re decaying because people are improving faster than you

    • @erogemaster225
      @erogemaster225 Před 4 lety +1

      @@coluurs5660 improvement doesn't havy anything to do with pp

    • @coluurs5660
      @coluurs5660 Před 4 lety

      erogemaster 225 maybe not someone who is 40k and 35k, but someone who is 40k and 20k, obviously the 20k is better. Unless ofc the 40k doesn’t play ranked maps. Someone with a 400pp play is better than someone with 350pp top play. Pp doesn’t show skill until the gap widens cuz the 40k will never get the same top play as the 20k unless he improves

    • @Akkuto
      @Akkuto Před 4 lety

      Coluurs decay has to do with pp because I don't want to farm I lose ranks

  • @semi8883
    @semi8883 Před 4 lety

    evb set the first 600pp score on Ai no Sukima +HDDT
    5th option

  • @stars10000
    @stars10000 Před 4 lety

    I dont want to know, but here I am.

  • @Nyakozame
    @Nyakozame Před 4 lety

    There should be a ranking where it shows top pp score in a single play.

  • @karlbjorn1831
    @karlbjorn1831 Před 4 lety

    ajer breks the rooles

  • @goomp9715
    @goomp9715 Před 4 lety

    Xilver is love

  • @bluel1ghtning411
    @bluel1ghtning411 Před 3 lety

    I haven't even watched the video yet but I can already give you a 100% correct answer. The first 600pp play was on Ov Sacrament by Astrella. (I'm totatlly just kiding xD I'm just a guy from Beat Saber who knows nothing about osu! lol xD And it's very obvius in Beat Saber what the first 600pp play was) But I still wanna watch this video and learn, because it seems really interesting :D

  • @fiftyshadesofpika7108
    @fiftyshadesofpika7108 Před 4 lety +4

    Rip cookiezi's masterpiece play

  • @cashmoneyjk
    @cashmoneyjk Před 4 lety

    When 600pp was rare

  • @WangleLine
    @WangleLine Před rokem

    3:37 peepsh play

  • @depthking6857
    @depthking6857 Před 4 lety +3

    Any chance someone can link me hvick225's pfp at 1:25?

    • @neehgurg2111
      @neehgurg2111 Před 4 lety

      shut up weeb

    • @depthking6857
      @depthking6857 Před 4 lety +1

      @@neehgurg2111 calling me a weeb is about as far from an insult as you can possibly get, so thanks man ^^

    • @ugur3527
      @ugur3527 Před 4 lety

      Here you go:
      e-shuushuu.net/images/2015-01-20-704191.jpeg

  • @Cybrtronlazr
    @Cybrtronlazr Před 4 lety

    Well there is a new pp rebalance that's coming soon, probably by mid 2020, but if not, definitely in this year.

  • @ilect1690
    @ilect1690 Před 3 lety

    imagine if cookiezi's 800pp freedom dive HDHR got buffed to 900pp? would that suddenly make it the first 800pp and the first 900pp play technically?

    • @user-xk3hq8rk1s
      @user-xk3hq8rk1s Před 3 lety

      Its actually 908 now

    • @Arjun-hp2sp
      @Arjun-hp2sp Před 2 lety

      it is the first 900pp play by 727 days (not joke) cause 727 days between freedom dive and karthy honesty which was the actual first 900

    • @toasteddice
      @toasteddice Před rokem

      The play wasn't 900 at first the first 900 (karthys honesty) was the first 900 since it was the play that was 900pp before any other it doesn't matter whether older plays get buffed to that amount

  • @santaisreal
    @santaisreal Před 2 lety +1

    Why does it matter that the second play was nerfed after WWW set it? Are all 3 of these plays still 600 now? If not, then it shouldn't matter. What's the first 600 according to the current pp system?

    • @dazess5810
      @dazess5810 Před 2 lety +1

      Cookiezi's 2013 preban freedom dive nm 99.97% fc is worth 614 pp now if you count deleted scores.
      For existing scores, it is hvick225's Nyanya 98.70% hddt fc in 2014. It was buffed to 607pp in recent reworks.

    • @rainingforever-
      @rainingforever- Před 11 měsíci

      This is the literal worst take possible

  • @EndingNote111
    @EndingNote111 Před 4 lety

    index dragonforce hr

  • @seventwentyseven
    @seventwentyseven Před 2 lety

    fredom div

  • @kuro9519
    @kuro9519 Před 4 lety

    FL besto mod owo

  • @mrsalty6118
    @mrsalty6118 Před 4 lety

    how about the literal FIRST pp play, like i get why people argue about it but dude... the 609 was the first one regardless of changes and even if vaxei’s 1kpp got nerfed it would still have been the first

  • @ChairSmasher
    @ChairSmasher Před 4 lety +2

    Second!!! >:D

  • @YumiNeeosu
    @YumiNeeosu Před 4 lety

    Plz do what was the first 700 PP

  • @imsocreamy383
    @imsocreamy383 Před 4 lety +2

    Who was the 1st play to win a tournament while banned

  • @Wutever
    @Wutever Před 4 lety +2

    Wait so in 2015 before the focus became lazer did they just constantly nerf shit whenever someone got good st something? Except aim cause they nerfed ice angel high cs in general and touchscreen just from what i know directly in response to single plays all of which are impressive plays by todays standard.

    • @stun2235
      @stun2235 Před 4 lety

      What do you mean "so in 2015" lol this is still happening today (HD Rebalance, Speed rebalance, Angle balance and coming length rebalance)

    • @Wutever
      @Wutever Před 4 lety

      @@stun2235 much less frequently though from what it sounds.

    • @stun2235
      @stun2235 Před 4 lety

      @@Wutever yee but the pp system was still new back then, they still occur today but less frequently as you say

    • @Grevgy
      @Grevgy Před 4 lety

      Yes

  • @odsunrize
    @odsunrize Před 4 lety +1

    Woi

  • @chuck_norris
    @chuck_norris Před 4 lety

    Automod did it.

  • @whip6962
    @whip6962 Před 4 lety +1

    Skin at 1:59?

  • @ahad3986
    @ahad3986 Před 4 lety

    My first 600 play ur asking I haven't got 300 pp yet lol

  • @account-pd4fi
    @account-pd4fi Před 4 lety

    my opinion, first 600pp play is the one that is oldest *ranked* 600pp play in *current* pp system. for example after next pp rebalance (soon hopefully) things might change so much that blue zenith HR won't be first 700pp score, instead it would be something else, and i think that's really interesting.

  • @vitalyq1677
    @vitalyq1677 Před 4 lety +4

    I am from 2077 and contently pp record is 1554 pp