THE ORIGIN OF THE V SIGN!
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- čas přidán 9. 09. 2017
- A commonly repeated legend claims that the two-fingered salute or V sign derives from a gesture made by long-bowmen at the Battle of Agincourt (1415) during the Hundred Year war.
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I never knew this sign until in UK I wanted to buy 2 beers showing this sign :D
The piece symbol is a rune and means death.
I bet you loved making the sign freely for the sake of the video ;) As an archer myself, regardless of whether you use 2 or 3 fingers (usually 3), if your index and middle finger are chopped off, there is absolutely no way you can pull back a bow with your remaining fingers (unless you're Hercules or its one of those cheap kiddy bows). So it's definitely a realistic theory, with the "bonus" that the prisoners can still use their hands enough to do manual labour
I did :) It does seem realistic but I guess we will never know for sure....
total liar.. this is a old occult hand sign that i have EXPOSED. Check my channel if you want to know the real truth and origin
V for Victory!
Nope
Only with palm away from you when doing it. Palm towards you is up yours or f**k off
@@nigeh5326 nope
This is hilarious beyond belief. Thanks for the video!
Very interesting!!!
I'm from Chile and I remember I saw a few supporters of an English football team in a match for Champions League (I will not name the Team) hahahaa but it was quite fun to me because I knew this. 😂😂
Here in North America, that sign means peace, regardless if your palm is facing towards or away from you.
thank u for the explanation.
THANK YOU! I've been trying to tell people these facts a long time ago!
I like yours the best and it doesn't surprise me.
And YES, the longbow story was passed down to me as a child - I'm in my 60's.
I was also told that it was a victory sigh.
The the one most widely taught, was that it meant that one was hot for sex. 🤣 Come and get it!
How interesting! As someone said two fingers up means PEACE here in the US. I found out while in greece recently putting your whole hand up as to stay stop means fu** off. 😁😁😁😁
:) that's funny
This is a wide misconception among practically everyone who isn't British, it seems. The sign for "peace" or "victory" is two fingers with the palm OUTWARD toward the recipient. Both meanings are recognised in the UK. It only becomes "up yours" if you do it with the back of the hand facing outward. Any British person would recognise the difference between the two different gestures.
I started the V sign in 2004
You don't "fire" a bow... you shoot or loose a bow!
Take a drink each time he flashes the hand signal.
Japanese use it to look cute especially anime. I thought Winston Churchill invented it lol but it is earlier compare to the hippies and anime.
Interesting story Scotty. In Aus the 2 finger salute has the same meaning and to symbolise peace, you would turn your hand the opposite way. It took me ages in Asia to get used to people showing the "V" in either direction as a symbol for peace. I have to confess there would be a few photos of me now with my fingers turned in either direction. You and Ally must have come across this as well. Source of amusement to begin with?
lol that's funny, I will have to binge some of your videos soon as well we are planning to go to Nepal next year :)
Scotty Does that's an exciting announcement! Nepal is just amazing!
The editing and uploads have been a little bit slow, but rather motivated at the moment
That’s interesting because another reply said there is no trace of it going back past 19th century, but if our Australia cousins have been using it then that may show that custom getting to Australia when it was part of the British Empire which means that gesture goes back to the late 17th century which would also suggest it was being use in England before that, maybe?
also supposedly where we get the word F**K cause how the spelling of the word PLUCK has changed (when you pul back and release a bowstring it's referred to as Plucking) IDK if it's true bt it' makes for a great story
Funny fact: if the palm is facing away it means Peace (or Victory).
As for myself, i prefer to show the V sign palm facing me ;p
Wow, that's terrible. I thought it meant that someone was leaving. People say "peace out" when I used to see it used. Now I just thought that people used it to look cool. Honestly I wouldn't think someone would still do that today for that reason but I just wanted to make sure that i wasn't being left out of cool people knowledge
The peace sign is palm-outward. When showing the back of your hand it becomes "up yours".
I mean Winston Churchill used that sign as a sign for victory for battles won in ww2 like when commandos destroyed a port in St. Nazaire, big enough to house the largest German battleship ever produced during the time.
Seems like a cool factoid. Can you try to find out why the USA shows the middle finger? Or why other countries do other gestures for the same thing? 😉
In Italy the use the right hand against the left inside elbow when bent inwards/upwards. Do you know that gesture?
Italian here, and usually those kind of hand sings are used for the more explicit types of insults. So for example the one you mentioned is usually used while saying "vaffanculo" which basically means "go fuck you in the ass" and the arms actually symbolize the penetration act.
And even the middle finger still represents an erection, and it's actually a very ancient gesture (more than 2.000 years!).
But I still find it to be less interesting than the sign discussed in this short video. 😅
QI busted the myth about the origins of this gesture coming from English archers a long time ago. There is no trace of the V-sign being used as an insult before the 19th century.
Greetings my friend mate I'm from United States, Mexican-American nationality. I will never ever use this V sign insult or middle finger in warm regards amigo! Always thumbs up!
❤ Actually today in America it is used to say TRUE.
Just for all of you non-Brits here, we in the UK DO recognise the peace/victory hand gesture, but this is specifically done with the palm of the hand facing OUTWARD. It only becomes the British equivalent of the American middle-finger when it is done with the back of the hand facing toward the recipient.
One gesture both Americans and Brits recognise is the thumbs-up gesture for "okay" or "good". Generally, a positive sign. During the retreat to Dunkirk, villagers were coming out and giving the retreating British soldiers small gifts of food or drink and were cheering them. Rather heart-warmed by this reception, many of the British soldiers responded with the thumbs-up gesture, as a way of thanks, not knowing that to a Belgian this is an obscene gesture, meaning something akin to "Sit on this and swivel on it!" Ho-ho, ha-ha etc.
you can also , put your left leg in, your left leg out, in out in out and shake it all about, you do the hokey pokey and you turn around and that's what its all about
@@leoncarney2228 Although of course, in the UK that is called tye Hokey Pokie.
I don't use it but I will begin to. XD
I Actually use this hand sign in Finland for really annoying car drivers.
Probably the bigger reason why the two fingers were cut off was to effectively reduce morale in the English forces of the time. After all, no bigger morale killer than seeing your fellow countryman come back and say they had their fingers chopped off and could no longer handle a bow.
That’s the peace sign in the U.S.
Peace sign palm out, fuck off Frenchman v sign showing the back of the hand
Wrong. The peace sign is supposed to be with your palm facing outwards. If you do the sign with your palm facing you, it has a different meaning.
DJ Yonkyo You must be a foreigner or a millennial. Not the Peace sign, in America 2 fingers up you turn palm out to indicate Peace.
It wasn't around until the 60's by hippies
In the Philippines the V sign means peace. So we could accidentally offend British foreigners when making a V sign to them.
Sorry mate... it was the law in those times that every English man was to practice the longbow every day... so eventually they could draw back the bow with two fingers at that time, modern archers use the same technique, so that's a miss for you there
That's more or less what I heard about the two finger salute. Seems as likely as anything else really.
Yer it is interesting :)
It happens when Netherlands Vs England. The Dutch mascot shows two v signs.
Cool. You look like pics of Ghenghis Kahn.
All I see is my name.
This is what I'm trying to let my friends know ,😂
AFAIK the two fingered insult derives from the cutting off of fingers that was done if caught hunting in the Kings Forest. It essentially means, fuck off, still got me fingers and can stick an arrow in you old chap, a sign of rebellion, being an outlaw an all that, but there's no historical evidence for this en.wikipedia.org/wiki/V_sign and it's doubtfull you could draw a 75lb + warbow with two fingers...DA.
In the US, two fingers up is the peace sign no matter which way the hand faces ✌🏼
Really? that is funny :)
you'd have to be careful in the UK then :-)
Kinda makes sense, no? You feel at peace when someone fucks off
@Paul Lo Cicero He's talking specifically about Britian, so you mentioning this is complete fucking irrelevant. What a fucking bellend.
@@JohnMacbeth Not only Britain but most of the english speaking world outside of the US and places like india, vietnam etc.
I use to see this on punk rock albums and by punk rockers in britain. I never new what it meant but one day I thought to myself... Could this mean " punk rock" haha I don't know
Actually I thought it was Winston Churchill that held his two fingers up for victory during World War II
He had to be told that to do the V for Victory palm out, because before that he was doing it palm in, basically saying f you. Mind you that still worked.
He gave Hitler the V's as in: "fuck off Hitler we're not going down without a fight"
Scotty in my country people only consider it as victory... they didn't know this meaning so thanks for the knowledge!
Am Scottish!
Interesting!
I was taught it is the victory-sign (And I heard the story you told us about) or a sign for peace (don't know where this is from though). Also, in Sweden we point our middle finger to say "fuck you". Don't think we have any other signs like that.
Different gestures, as the film Darkest Hour took pains to point out. Making the sign with the palm outward is "peace" or "victory"; doing it with the back of the hand outward is "up yours".
this is biblical compared to the middle finger. i'll be using this from now on.
In the US it's just the middle finger...so yeah..funny but all throughout your video you kept flicking off everyone watching..lol....just saying....heh
:) It depends where your from lol
Manchester man?
Thank you for giving real information. I am a Welsh Archer and my family still use our bows. There is only one thing that kinda made me want to say something. You don't "fire" a bow. You loose a bow. And there are bows wich can go up to 200 to 250 pounds. Everything else is perfect! No hate I love your videos and thank you for putting real information like I said before. Have a wonderful day. 😀
What wood do you use?
Do not use this hand gesture in orthodox countries, or you might be beaten up.
It's pronounced A-Jin-corr
**** Welsh bowman ****
English** England had the mandatory archery law.
Why didnt the english chop the frenchs arm off when the english won
Because we killed most of them. And sold the nobels for ransom
Sorry, but the story about this gesture beginning in the Hundred Years War is complete nonsense and was invented in the 1960s. I know this guy says "no one knows for sure" where this gesture came from, but then proceeds to tell a "really cool" story, which is the complete fiction of recent origin. No historian would endorse this foolish story. The best guess anyone has had about this is that it is simply a doubling of the genuinely ancient "one finger salute", which really does date back to ancient times. In other words, a way of saying "up yours twice over".
This hand gesture also originates from the fact that it makes the shape of a V. In Roman numerology the V actually is the number five. It also represents half of 10. Meaning, if you, as a spiritual being, are comprised as 10 (complete in process) you are comprised of two separate fives. (Good 5 & an evil 5 ... also 5 up & 5 upside down) So in the occult world “they” use this to their advantage. By showing you in all forms of media, the five or the V, or the peace sign, what they are actually saying is more like what you’re describing at the beginning of your video, the fuck off sign. So, if you make a V with each hand, and put them together you can make a W (double you) Because “they” are making fun of you, the people, or the other race of beings that are not in the know. Sounds very esoterically deep. Don’t know if you really want to go that far. Based on the look of your channel, I’m unsure. When you do make the W with two fingers, they should cross in the middle, and this also represents the X chromosome, “the female rival” as spoken about in the time of Daniels trouble in the Bible. Let me know if this helps you because it’s much much more then we all give it credit for. Feel free to come check out my spot on INSTAGRAM @forsheepsakes -peas & carrots mate!!
This is bullshit.
Why would you threaten to merely cut the enemy's fingers?
WTF.....
I'll say something horrible, and make you cry.
Always learn what offends people in their respective community, and use it with impunity on them because it's funny
V means victory
Which way around though? :)
Scotty Does like what Sir Winston Churchill does during WW2
Pasha Dwantara he was insulting the enemy
Uhm actually, the reason why the V-sign means victory is due to the fact that scissors is the most powerful shape in Rock Paper Scissors.
Come on, get your facts straight!
FACT: Rock crushes scissors.
Jesus, your pronunciation of Agincourt was as offensive as the gesture itself.
effing kpop