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  • @shaeda
    @shaeda Před rokem +2378

    I wish Atlus would make more games like Catherine
    Not necessarily a puzzle game but just another somewhat shorter game stylized to hell and back and explore some cool themes in cool ways
    The Golden Playhouse is such a good framing device it’s a shame Atlus doesnt capitalize on it more

    • @lewa3910
      @lewa3910 Před rokem +32

      @u know me delete your account

    • @bingo784
      @bingo784 Před rokem +38

      "Stylized to hell and back"? "Explore some cool themes in cool ways" Have you heard of this underappreciated indie-darling called Persona 5?

    • @shaeda
      @shaeda Před rokem +116

      @@bingo784 lol unfortunately I would not call any of the persona games "somewhat shorter"

    • @bingo784
      @bingo784 Před rokem +10

      @@shaeda Not with this attitude.

    • @gruntmanthesound
      @gruntmanthesound Před rokem +44

      I also was hoping for more games under the Golden Playhouse banner. Maybe stuff down the pipe later. Atlus *is* about to release a sequel to a 20+ year-old game in a week.

  • @dgokami
    @dgokami Před rokem +4341

    Atlus is like that sweet dad that wants to be supportive towards their coming out and changing kid but is stuck in awkward jokes and dad puns mode. They're trying... just not doing so well yet

    • @DosDeAsada69
      @DosDeAsada69 Před rokem +193

      Fr. They're trying but they ain't there just yet

    • @tartoflan
      @tartoflan Před rokem +204

      At least they're trying. Better than being hostile towards lgbt's

    • @alphamage2642
      @alphamage2642 Před rokem +178

      @@tartoflan True, at least they acknowledge his reaction to Rin is definitely bad.

    • @barrymckockinner9292
      @barrymckockinner9292 Před rokem +18

      Rin is gross

    • @derederekat9051
      @derederekat9051 Před rokem +4

      FFFFF; Atlus!! I need another Ogre Battle! NOW!!

  • @Airblade101
    @Airblade101 Před rokem +735

    Buns, as someone living in Japan, the "You live like this?" is actually pretty accurate to what an apartment in Japan is like. Mine is only a bit bigger with a separate kitchen because I live outside of Tokyo so it's actually affordable. An apartment somewhere in Tokyo that's about the size of that one is going to be like $800-$1,000/month.

    • @SinHurr
      @SinHurr Před rokem +21

      So about what a studio costs in my city right now, nice.

    • @LeBeau_42
      @LeBeau_42 Před rokem +23

      Bro that's less than what I pay in the UNITED STATES.
      In Arizona, for a sucky fully furnished apartment that feels like a Dollhouse I pay 1247.04$ every month.
      I would love to pay 800$ or hell, even 1000...

    • @akirasaito1551
      @akirasaito1551 Před rokem +28

      @@LeBeau_42 Tokyo is a living wage city so their rent is a lot lower than big US cities. And also, our glorious US of A is a capitalist nightmare so.

    • @jacobp.4593
      @jacobp.4593 Před rokem +6

      Bruh. I have a two bedroom apartment with a living room, batbroom, kitchen and small laundry room/storage closet all for $900 CAD a month. You're getting scammed.

    • @Airblade101
      @Airblade101 Před rokem +4

      @@jacobp.4593 I don't personally live in something that expensive, my single bedroom with a kitchen apartment is only around $350usd because I live outside of Tokyo. I lived in an apartment in Michigan that's the same as yours that was only $700/month. Apartments IN Tokyo are just expensive.

  • @sakurabiskuit
    @sakurabiskuit Před rokem +2070

    Full Body's LGBTQ+ representation basically boils down to "He's a little confused, but he's got the spirit!"

    • @javelation
      @javelation Před rokem +43

      I see an OG Fresh Prince of Bel-Air quote, I like immediately.

    • @digimonlover1632
      @digimonlover1632 Před rokem +20

      Eh. I’m much more positive about it and think it was handled well for the most part.

    • @Samsa739
      @Samsa739 Před rokem +41

      It's better than the persona series ☠️

    • @august9474
      @august9474 Před rokem +2

      @@Samsa739 so true

    • @theinfantmetroid
      @theinfantmetroid Před rokem +1

      (points) KAVEH ICON

  • @kain1799
    @kain1799 Před rokem +1017

    Honestly finally some Katherine respect I swear everyone gets really hung up on her being kinda bitchy but like honestly? They've been together for fucking ever and Vincent is just Vincent and like. Can you blame her literally at all?

    • @bannedmann4469
      @bannedmann4469 Před rokem

      Yes, no bitching. Don't like em, then leave. Women are always tryin to change men.

    • @jonathangoodwin5609
      @jonathangoodwin5609 Před rokem +45

      Yes. Yes I can. I get her reasons, but she is completely unpleasant and controlling about some things iirc.

    • @quinnmarchese6313
      @quinnmarchese6313 Před rokem +157

      i was always a K-katherine stan, good to see her get some recognition. in the og game, to me she never came off as bitchy or "karen"ish, just someone who was frustrated by the stagnation of her relationship and Vincent's lack of ambition and foresight

    • @NinjaPro57
      @NinjaPro57 Před rokem +5

      She is really unbearable for me - just awful, sorry!

    • @wackyclock
      @wackyclock Před rokem

      ouais, elle n'est pas cool

  • @hextrum8091
    @hextrum8091 Před rokem +650

    While Rin could've been handled better there was a scene that really made me like the character. It was when Vincent opened up to him and said he was always taught very rigid ideals of what it meant to be a man, how to act, and what he could like and when he could like it. Then Rin responded by saying "No one has the right to decide what's important to you" it was a very simple line but something I needed to hear at the time and something I still remember now and sold me on his route.

    • @bannedmann4469
      @bannedmann4469 Před rokem +14

      I feel like this logic needs to be applied to the representation arguments themselves.

    • @internetguy7319
      @internetguy7319 Před rokem

      @@bannedmann4469 People aren't deciding that "LGBTQ isn't important to them", people are deciding that "LGBTQ should die."
      Stark difference.

    • @bannedmann4469
      @bannedmann4469 Před rokem

      @@internetguy7319 wtf are you on about?

    • @Abyzz_Knight
      @Abyzz_Knight Před rokem +20

      @@bannedmann4469 except people aren't arguing that representation should be personally important to you. The reason representation matters is because positive media representation can be helpful in increasing self-esteem for people of marginalized groups (especially youth), it can provide validation and support, and it assists in reducing stereotypes of underrepresented groups.

    • @bannedmann4469
      @bannedmann4469 Před rokem +1

      @@Abyzz_Knight First of all, I'm in multiple of those demographics that wre deemed "oppressed". So they are arguing just that. Secondly, there are arguments inside this argument. Over who exactly is oppressed. And there are serious problems with gaining self esteem from media. Do you have any idea how stupid and dangerous that is? Do you not understand how that sets people up to fail? Cut the crap.

  • @thebaysix
    @thebaysix Před rokem +202

    29:35 I also love the "girlboss off into the sunset" ending but I can't get over how hilarious it is that Katherine is trying to give Vincent (standing 80ft away) advice while getting into a helicopter about to take off. I just keep imagining Vincent being like "whAT?" and watching Katherine's lips move and only hearing VVVVVVSSSSSSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH.

  • @Squall338
    @Squall338 Před rokem +151

    Serious question: if Rin was introduced by sitting on the MC's face....why was the reveal of their gender surprising?

    • @mellemadswoestenburg1296
      @mellemadswoestenburg1296 Před rokem +19

      I guess Rin was wearing underwear. That seems like a logical thing to wear.

    • @Vee_Sheep
      @Vee_Sheep Před rokem +70

      Rin must tuck REALLY well

    • @Rad-Dude63andathird
      @Rad-Dude63andathird Před 6 měsíci

      ​@@mellemadswoestenburg1296
      What are _your_ undies made of? Steel?

    • @optimaltt6070
      @optimaltt6070 Před 3 měsíci +5

      .....huh. That IS a good question....

  • @adamdavis1737
    @adamdavis1737 Před rokem +973

    It is always a glorious day when this channel uploads

    • @adamdavis1737
      @adamdavis1737 Před rokem +19

      @u know me let's be honest, this is an obvious scam

    • @blob643
      @blob643 Před rokem +8

      @@adamdavis1737 Let's be honest, CZcams won't do jack shit to fix this bot plague

    • @DanT12204
      @DanT12204 Před rokem +2

      Lets be honest funny lesbian goes hard

    • @adamdavis1737
      @adamdavis1737 Před rokem +3

      @@DanT12204 that's too honest

    • @SaM-fe4lp
      @SaM-fe4lp Před rokem

      Yes

  • @blackbun130
    @blackbun130 Před rokem +1083

    Funny enough, Rin was my favoured love interest BECAUSE of how mushy-gushy their chemistry is. It just makes me feel at ease with how wholesome it is compared to the stress that comes with interacting with the other two. Catherine being possessive and violent and Katherine being low-key a Karen although Full Body's exploration of her definitely made me like her a lot more than the original.

    • @inyrui
      @inyrui Před rokem +4

      I never saw Katherine as a Karen. Just a girlfriend who wanted her boyfriend to stop being a loser haha

    • @needlefoxx
      @needlefoxx Před rokem +51

      I'm obviously biased because I basically only bought that game after hearing it had a gay femboy character, but yeah same here, I loved their dynamic so much. It was so wholesome.

    • @Dzexel
      @Dzexel Před rokem +22

      @@needlefoxx Now im going buy it too for Rin route as a man of culture i simply cannot ignore this.

    • @needlefoxx
      @needlefoxx Před rokem +17

      @@Dzexel Based. Enjoy the cute femboy.

    • @SinHurr
      @SinHurr Před rokem +5

      Katharen, if you will.

  • @ApexGale
    @ApexGale Před rokem +193

    I always felt like Katherine was kinda done dirty by the older version of the game. In this game you actually *see* why these two might have ended up together and why it's actually sad that their relationship is stuck in a plateau. It's not Katherine "being a bitch," it's moreso Vincent being indecisive but too scared to have a serious talk with his girlfriend about their future together. It's something that I think is actually pretty big, because the jump from "going steady" to "living the rest of your life with this person" is rightfully scary. So showing the player why you might want that is something the game sorely needed.

  • @kap1618
    @kap1618 Před rokem +227

    I always believed Vincent hit it off with Rin so well because Vincent starts neutral and which is where you need to be for Rin's route. Also they should have just made Rin an Angel.

    • @Slavic_Snake
      @Slavic_Snake Před rokem

      no

    • @ArianeM-gk2vp
      @ArianeM-gk2vp Před rokem +25

      Yeah the whole "alien" thing was super weird. Having an angel to counter Catherine being a demon, makes much more sense than an alien...

    • @Vanity0666
      @Vanity0666 Před 8 měsíci +8

      It's evangelion rules, angel and alien are synonyms

    • @MillyKKitty
      @MillyKKitty Před 2 měsíci +2

      Rin's collar even has wings on them

  • @GrayCole96
    @GrayCole96 Před rokem +2650

    I really wish Rin had been revealed to be an angel rather than an alien. I feel like they would’ve been taken more seriously and it would’ve felt more in tune with the feel of the game imo (since devils are in the game it wouldn’t have been crazy to have angels). And it would’ve gone further to show that there is nothing wrong with being gay. Rin being an alien feels like the game is saying that being gay is “alien” or strange. Again, just my opinion

    • @Wince_Media
      @Wince_Media Před rokem +386

      Yeah an angel would have made much more sense considering that Catherine already had religious mythology in it and not... aliens

    • @aloox395
      @aloox395 Před rokem +82

      Wouldn't Katherine be the angel though? At least I think that's what they were trying originally but rin is a good addition to the game for sure.

    • @barrymckockinner9292
      @barrymckockinner9292 Před rokem +13

      Rin is gross

    • @aloox395
      @aloox395 Před rokem +117

      @@barrymckockinner9292 Rin is hot to me 😈

    • @wohdinhel
      @wohdinhel Před rokem +103

      I mean, given the context of other Atlus works, the difference between angel and alien is pretty much entirely semantic

  • @MelodicQuest
    @MelodicQuest Před rokem +310

    Fun fact: Katherine's design was actually a rejected Sae Niijima concept

    • @ThatAzureFluff
      @ThatAzureFluff Před rokem +30

      Personal 5 dlc with Makoto dressed as Katherine 👀

    • @imthethriller
      @imthethriller Před rokem +18

      That's not surprising

    • @Vanity0666
      @Vanity0666 Před 8 měsíci +1

      I have a long standing theory that the entire game only exists because of Nocturne's Puzzle Boy

    • @optimaltt6070
      @optimaltt6070 Před 3 měsíci +2

      That makes WAY too much sense.

  • @CalltoaMentor
    @CalltoaMentor Před rokem +455

    20:35 The sad part is that with Erica catching on that quickly to what Vincent had done and reacting like that, there are strong implications that he responded that way to her transition as well.

    • @MrGamelover23
      @MrGamelover23 Před rokem +45

      What's actually sad about this is that he didn't learn from the first time. This might sound transphobic, but it's not sad that he did it the first time, it's to be expected. Those of a more enlightened generation probably won't feel and react that way, but what do you expect from people back then? I know, saying it was a different time isn't an excuse usually, but we REALLY didn't know better back then.

    • @fightingmedialounge519
      @fightingmedialounge519 Před rokem +9

      @@MrGamelover23 eh, some people did

  • @Daedriclord23
    @Daedriclord23 Před rokem +402

    i felt like the whole mini freak out from Vin about Rin was well done. im in the LGBT+ community myself. he was under the impression Rin was something he wasn't. a female. And Vincent isn't exactly a good person. it was a shock for the dude. in a vacuum is it a good portrayal of the LGBT community? not really. but in the context of the story it makes a lot of sense. and the fact that you can choose to move past it and romance him is a good thing. baby steps.

    • @anactualbear5683
      @anactualbear5683 Před rokem +61

      I mean, having your belief of something or someone suddenly proven wrong is a shock no matter the circumstances. Disgust and withdrawal in that type of situation is a natural human reaction because your brain has to reevaluate what it thought it knew about the world and then reinterpret what your new opinions of a situation should be.
      Some people process that faster than others. Ultimately, the final mentally-processed acceptance should say a lot more about Vincent's character arc than any initial confusion activating his fight or flight response, since that was a more considered and voluntary choice.
      I've never played the game, so there is that, and I could be missing stuff not mentioned in this video, but that's my feeling in a similar situation at least

    • @GodwynDi
      @GodwynDi Před rokem +38

      Seriously though, with how the two of them met, how did he not notice?

    • @sonofsalt4079
      @sonofsalt4079 Před rokem +4

      No! Its bad that he, a straight man who never would have thought he would be into a dude, wouldnt be totally accepting that the "girl" hes with is actually a guy. We gays need you to accept us and give us reach arounds any time we ask a straight man for it!

    • @montanarose4622
      @montanarose4622 Před rokem +71

      @@sonofsalt4079 literally not a single gay person in the comments has said anything like that. Many have even said that it’s a realistic reaction. Your strawman in showing.

    • @apollo6274
      @apollo6274 Před rokem

      Shitty dude, shitty reaction... But fuck at lest he apologized after cuz he knew what he did was wrong and why.... I didn't get that apology more then I did get one

  • @unnamed_protagonist
    @unnamed_protagonist Před rokem +89

    I just remember one ending where Vincent ends up with no one and he fucks off to space to live his best life.

  • @garrettcarter5622
    @garrettcarter5622 Před rokem +412

    Looking at Erica's design, she really is just Makoto Nijima if she worked at Wendy's.

    • @nightwish1453
      @nightwish1453 Před rokem +33

      makes me wonder will P6 borrow more of Catherine's hair styles. Would be cool to see someone with Katherine's hair with how utterly majestic it looks

    • @sodathejunker
      @sodathejunker Před rokem +58

      Probably more truth in that than you realize. OG Catherine was a graphical engine test for what eventually became P5, and a lot of the character visual designs for P5 and Catherine were built from the same initial concept sheets (Katherine ➡️ Sae, Vincent ➡️ Joker, Catherine ➡️ Ann, Orlando ➡️ Ryuji, etc.)
      I bet a bit of Erica bled into Mokoto’s design somewhere when her and Hifumi’s designs diverged.

    • @bannedmann4469
      @bannedmann4469 Před rokem +7

      Ronald McTrans over here.

    • @braxinIV
      @braxinIV Před rokem +12

      @@sodathejunker you just blew the one brain cell I have out of my god damn skull. You’re fucking right! I didn’t see it until you connected them. Thank you.

  • @JaelinBezel
    @JaelinBezel Před rokem +68

    I can’t get over how much Erica just looks like Makoto with scarlet hair

  • @ErikVonStrix3
    @ErikVonStrix3 Před rokem +757

    18:14 holy shit atlas ACTUALLY took the Game Grumps "Qatherine with a Q" joke and made it canon!
    THEY MADE A JOKE ABOUT A THIRD CATHERINE "with a Q" 4 YEARS BEFORE FULL BODY CAME OUT!!!

    • @maikerunezumi
      @maikerunezumi Před rokem +88

      Yahtzee of Zero Punctuation also made the same joke in his original review.

    • @velocitasfortis
      @velocitasfortis Před rokem +73

      Yup, Yahtz made the joke first. The very week the original game came out.

    • @XXXXX8
      @XXXXX8 Před rokem +5

      Too bad Game Grumps has been terrible since jontron left.

    • @lessylessy
      @lessylessy Před rokem +38

      @@XXXXX8 are people still upset abou jontron leaving? It's been 16 years since he left. Move on.

    • @XXXXX8
      @XXXXX8 Před rokem +1

      @@lessylessy Yeah, because Game Grumps was awesome until jon left. I'm not gonna get over that. Also your math is off

  • @SharlaBlades
    @SharlaBlades Před rokem +763

    This felt like a mini 'For Beginners'. I liked it a lot! Plus this channel is still one of the few that has some great humor!

  • @AVClarke
    @AVClarke Před rokem +784

    I kinda liked how the Rin reveal and Vincent's immediate reaction was done. I prefer it when characters in stories are flawed people, and don't immediately give the perfect response to a situation. People in life fuck up sometimes, and if they're good people, they work to rectify their mistakes. That's what makes good storytelling, in my opinion.

    • @eoincampbell1584
      @eoincampbell1584 Před rokem +157

      I can understand that perspective, but it's such a trope in animated Japanese media that for anyone who's seen it already a bunch of times the potential nuances and intention are kinda lost, such is the trouble with cliches.
      Plus he has a long time friend who's a trans woman, so his reaction makes less sense in that context since shouldn't he be a little less completely flabbergasted by this kind of thing and also maybe not ask "are you a guy?" first thing in response to learning someone is AMAB when they present completely feminine?

    • @MadLover4690
      @MadLover4690 Před rokem +152

      @@eoincampbell1584 I feel like just because someone is friends with someone doesn't mean they are 100% understanding of all of their decisions in life. After all, they have no problem discussing sex and other things with the other guys in their friend group (ie toby, Orlando, Johnny,) but the moment erica comes up they act very awkward about her sex life and her relationship with toby. They have no problem talking about Vincent's sex life with Katherine and she was a part of the friend group as well, so there's a clear distinction there. Erica is a part of their friend group but that doesn't mean Vincent is as close or supportive as you'd think.
      Edit: also, it's shown that Vincent is clearly ignorant in a lot of things, and erica clearly went the full 9-yards and got complete sex change surgery. If that's Vincent's only exposure to someone like that, it does make sense that he wouldn't understand that a person doesn't need to fully get a surgery to transition, as there are a lot of real life people with that mindset. (After all crossdressing is a thing as well, no need to change gender for that so he could assume rin just crossdresses) Either way, he's an idiot, that's been established.

    • @animeproblem1070
      @animeproblem1070 Před rokem +27

      @@eoincampbell1584 he may know Erica but he isn't attracted to her

    • @reddawn1873
      @reddawn1873 Před rokem +5

      Personally I would prefer It like Vincent's having a nervous breakdown

    • @pennysantana247
      @pennysantana247 Před rokem +5

      @@eoincampbell1584 respectfully i disagree with everything you just said

  • @Sarixis
    @Sarixis Před rokem +210

    Thank you for bringing up how discrimination is just expressed differently in Japan rather than nonexistent. The "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" mentality is so pervasive over there when combined with how draconian some aspects of their political parties can be (we're not any better).
    Great coverage on a game I've always felt iffy about though!

  • @BlackfangDragon
    @BlackfangDragon Před rokem +124

    I’m also reminded that the aliens are also supposed to be angels, so they add that to them amongst things. Since the OG really weird handling of LGBT and angelic beings can be traced back to Satan in Devilman and those who draw inspiration from him like Kaworu Nagisa and the like.
    That said the fact that Angels = Aliens makes Demons/Gods scared shitless in their presence funnier.

  • @TheSphereHunter
    @TheSphereHunter Před rokem +154

    My eyes popping out of my head seeing this video show up in my sub box. 😂

    • @_-Lx-_
      @_-Lx-_ Před rokem +4

      Hey, Best girl 1# and Best girl 2# are in each others comment section, nice mini crossover as a fan of you both.

    • @Aaron-ky4sz
      @Aaron-ky4sz Před rokem +3

      Saw you at 41:31 💜

  • @Adorni
    @Adorni Před rokem +204

    Something that bothers me about Rin is how it _feels_ as if they’re the “obviously correct” choice. Both Catherine and Katherine are… messy, it seems like. Neither option feels like the “right” choice, when you look at them both. And that’s what makes them interesting, I think, because relationships _aren’t_ perfect. So Rin just kind of feels… out of place, to a degree.

    • @AuspexAO
      @AuspexAO Před rokem +48

      I thought they were gonna make the ostensibly female Rin "the younger woman" and have their relationship go really smooth at first. Ya know, he gets to act like an older brother and the one she looks up to. Then he was going to realize that even through it was an easy time, she wasn't at the same point of her life as he was. Maybe kind of a weird sex moment where he couldn't go through with it because they had such a good relationship with him as a mentor/advice giver. Having Rin's obstacle be "he's a male" is kind of weird. I don't think most gay or bi people see that as an "obstacle" a partner brings to the table.
      But whatever. I'm not gay or bi myself, so I just saw Rin as a cool character for my Vincent to interact with. It definitely doesn't hurt the game, but it went from a study of "the things middle aged men have issues with in relationships" to that plus "what if I'm also bi?"

    • @sleepysera
      @sleepysera Před rokem +34

      @@AuspexAO Hey, "what if I'm also bi" is something some of us middle-aged folks struggle with too, so to me, that was very on point, lol 😂

  • @therussianprincess7036
    @therussianprincess7036 Před rokem +44

    I like how for someone that doesn’t really date the one moral I can take from this game is “get a job, take a shower”. Truly the pinnacle of wisdom.

  • @HollowGolem
    @HollowGolem Před rokem +62

    25:00 "Sometimes the characters feel rather reductive. They're more of an archetype than a person, that aren't exactly the most likeable bunch." Sounds like Atlus characters, alright. Confirms my placement of this in the pantheon of SMT spinoffs.

  • @LunetteFox
    @LunetteFox Před rokem +226

    I loved Catherine's new true ending, it was quite surprising to see her go from "the whole kid thing would have to be off the table" in the original true ending to "time traveling to your past so we can have a family" in the new true end.

    • @jackthorton10
      @jackthorton10 Před rokem +44

      Some even imply at the end credits that one of children looks a awful lot like Joker from Persona 5… might explain a few things about him

    • @LunetteFox
      @LunetteFox Před rokem +42

      @@jackthorton10 I heard that theory and I love it. It would be sad to think that Catherine and Vincent would just send their son away when he had assault charges though...

    • @2phonebabykeem913
      @2phonebabykeem913 Před rokem +10

      @@LunetteFox and he became an actual criminal once he was sent away😭

    • @netherfire50
      @netherfire50 Před rokem +1

      @@jackthorton10 That would... sort of make sense. But its probably same engine stuff, and the game being P5s test playground

    • @Kingdom850
      @Kingdom850 Před rokem +21

      @@jackthorton10 It's not explicitly stated, but it's implied due to the non japanese naming of the characters and their overall designs that Catherine takes place in the US, and not Japan, where almost every other Megaten game takes place in.

  • @MelodicQuest
    @MelodicQuest Před rokem +861

    As a recently out bisexual man, I personally felt a lot of conflicting feelings when discovering my sexuality. There was a lot of self-doubt at the beginning. I can see Vincent's reaction to Rin as more of a questioning of his sexuality.

    • @seanmcfadden3712
      @seanmcfadden3712 Před rokem +127

      Ace male here. Been out for a few years now, and I can definitely agree with you there. It was definitely a bit of a shock when my Aceness clicked for me. Especially because I'm still heteromantic (or Gynoromantic, since I might be gender fluid. Still figuring out that side of me).
      By the way, congrats on being out and open about who you are. You are awesome, valid, and absolutely deserve to feel good about yourself.

    • @lunebadru5997
      @lunebadru5997 Před rokem +99

      Congratulations fellow bi. I felt that Vincent's reaction was somewhat real. The fear and realization makes sense but at least he did apologize

    • @SEELE-ONE
      @SEELE-ONE Před rokem +69

      Having met two or three guys who has similar reactions to a reveal like that one, I agree that it was a realistic reaction. That it does not align with the *expected* reaction is an entirely different matter.

    • @aidanaylward9237
      @aidanaylward9237 Před rokem +6

      Good job on being out and (hopefully) having support!

    • @nunyabidnis7111
      @nunyabidnis7111 Před rokem +48

      I think the issue is more the fact that his reaction mirrors the very frequently violent response made against trans people irl when their partner finds out. Many assaults and outright murders have been justified by this "gay panic" defense. I would say that Vincent's reaction is a realistic, if mild, depiction of that scenario. But maybe Super BB felt that such an awful trend doesn't need to be echoed in media.

  • @insomniacnerd5592
    @insomniacnerd5592 Před rokem +28

    Purple would be a nice color motif for Persona 6. It would imply a mix of styles with 4 and 5, Blue and Red. I want it now.

    • @Road_to_Dawn
      @Road_to_Dawn Před rokem +4

      Purple would be nice, my favorite color. However, 4 was yellow; 3 was the one with blue

    • @kristalaine
      @kristalaine Před rokem +3

      Wasn't the first persona game technically already purple though? That seems to be the color associated with it at least

    • @Vanity0666
      @Vanity0666 Před 8 měsíci

      It will be green, and you will enjoy it

    • @closetdemon4769
      @closetdemon4769 Před 3 měsíci

      They've already got the purple persona game, it will be green and there is nothing we can do about it

  • @mfan981
    @mfan981 Před rokem +422

    Atlus is like the boomer parent that tries to understand your non-binary partner by saying "Ah yes, he/she's a they"

    • @Slavic_Snake
      @Slavic_Snake Před rokem +14

      there is no such thing as "non-binary"

    • @uria3679
      @uria3679 Před rokem +1

      @@Slavic_Snakedid someone in your family “fight” in Vietnam and told you it’s okay to mean to people who are different than you 😒

    • @Slavic_Snake
      @Slavic_Snake Před 11 měsíci +10

      @shani2754 so a bunch of delusional people who believe in fairy tales had "non binary" people, and this somehow is an argument to win against me? lmao if that's all you got that proves me even more right.

    • @Slavic_Snake
      @Slavic_Snake Před 10 měsíci

      @@uria3679 you have anime p0rn as a profile pic... I cannot take you seriously

    • @listener709
      @listener709 Před 10 měsíci +4

      ​@@uria3679fight in Vietnam? Not disagree ING but from where the f did that come from something to share?

  • @lewa3910
    @lewa3910 Před rokem +138

    As someone who's a huge bayonetta fan, with that being my 1st AAA gaming experience back in the 2010's, Catherine's whole romance, murder & jazz vibe always gelled with me thanks to that

  • @Mickspad
    @Mickspad Před rokem +930

    I always found Vincent losing his mind over the Rin reveal to be weird. I could *maybe* buy it if it actually was the first time meeting someone like Rin, but Erica is one of his closest friends, it's not like this is out of the realm of possibility for him.

    • @frakfriki
      @frakfriki Před rokem +180

      when you put it in that context Vincent reaction is a bit more unforgivable

    • @sv32099
      @sv32099 Před rokem +149

      Yeah once I found out Erica was trans, that made Vincent's reaction seem that much more weird and out of the norm.

    • @paulman34340
      @paulman34340 Před rokem +53

      @@sv32099 Also hypocritical seeing what he was doing with Toby (Not telling him about Erica when he was crushing on her! Yeah Erica and the guys are also bad on this! And I can get Erica being not for telling him out of fear of his reaction! But stringing him along did bite her in the ass as Dumuzi that hypocrite put her in the dream curse as a sheep in response to leading Toby on like that! It is leading when she flirts with him, but hasn't told him or let him know the truth! The guys likely never said anything out of respect for her, but that respect is SHE has to tell him, but they could have said something)
      Feels like the writers FORGOT when they put that in, realized their mistake, but doubled down and tried to write around it and it was VERY noticeable! Both from newcomers who by this point caught on to Erica's Trans status & Vincent's awareness of it and Veterans like myself who already knew and had JAWS WIDE OPEN when that scene came up and how out of character Vin was! Though I try to say the stress of everything up to that point might have had an effect! I say it STORY wise, in real life I just call it bad writing

    • @sv32099
      @sv32099 Před rokem +4

      @@paulman34340 yeah explaining it in universe can become and excercise in futility

    • @silviainsertsurnamehere9620
      @silviainsertsurnamehere9620 Před rokem +147

      This is not a comparable situation at all?
      Vincent is long time friends with Erica, they know and trust each other, and are clearly ok with what they have
      Rin on the other hand, shows up literally out of nowhere, and at a really unfortunate and stressing time for Vincent
      They have a calming effect on him and soon become a third love interest, and during this whole time He is completely 100% sure Rin is just another girl, and then one day as they get to trust each other, Rin, who at no point gives any warning or indication of being trans or anything, just randomly decides to flash him?
      Now you could argue Rin *is* trans or nonbinary or just a regular male that likes to crossdress, but the point is, it doesn't matter, because it would still make Vincent question himself and wonder why the hell they didn't mention before. Imagine, you are a woman and you like guys, not a single doubt about that. Then you are dating a guy and out of nowhere turns out that guy was actually a cis girl all along and they never said anything or even hinted at it. I would be pissed.
      And even then it doesn't last long, it's clearly a reaction mostly out of shock and betrayal, and he soon realizes he was too harsh on Rin anyway. I feel like people really fail to see the context properly/put themselves in Vincent's shoes when it comes to this moment. To me it just feels realistic.

  • @moocowdivebomb90
    @moocowdivebomb90 Před rokem +4

    I’m just so damn happy you’re putting videos out again. Your humor and delivery are god tier.

  • @DLatrice325
    @DLatrice325 Před rokem +2

    didn't realize how much i missed your content. may go back and re-watch your older stuff. i cant count how many times i laughed out loud during this video, editing is god tier as usual.

  • @aresdefer
    @aresdefer Před rokem +324

    Holy cow, the bun mother has blessed us on this lords Tuesday.

    • @ms.aelanwyr.ilaicos
      @ms.aelanwyr.ilaicos Před rokem +15

      Let us give thanks, my brother in buns

    • @realityveil6151
      @realityveil6151 Před rokem +4

      We were blessed alright. Nothing for 6 months then she drops an hour-long preach session about lgbt representation in video games. talk about a downhill trajectory.

    • @aresdefer
      @aresdefer Před rokem +8

      @@realityveil6151 I’m sure you’re real fun at parties, damn.

    • @realityveil6151
      @realityveil6151 Před rokem

      @@aresdefer It's covid times, parties are over.

  • @msnat1304
    @msnat1304 Před rokem +57

    40:00 I thought I should let you know that right as you were making the speech here, my fiance went 'ok kingdom hearts' sarcastically. We both had a good laugh when you played the audio

  • @yellowtoad6803
    @yellowtoad6803 Před rokem +14

    It's been a while for me also, just wanted to say: so happy for your relationship!
    And as always detailed and funny discussion of the game, always a treat to see your videos. :)

  • @Disaster_Circus
    @Disaster_Circus Před rokem

    I love you, SBB. Your videos make me happy and I always get excited when you upload. I'll often watch a couple times, but then just turn the screen off and listen to your videos tens of times while I'm at work cause I love video games and the energy you bring to the table talking about some of my favorites really gets me through the day.

  • @RainyToaster
    @RainyToaster Před rokem +169

    Finally Buns made a video on this classic

  • @JohnathanJWells
    @JohnathanJWells Před rokem +326

    I like that Rin is very clearly presented as just a crossdressing male, while removing the deadnaming from Erica.
    Some people keep trying to argue that Rin is trans, but the game specifically points out that the only people using female pronouns are those that don't know the secret.

    • @Johnny_Shields
      @Johnny_Shields Před rokem +140

      I just watched another YT video uploaded to day, tl;dr toxic people attacking Trans for not being femboys and the other toxic side attacking femboys for not being trans. Like seriously, gender is a personal choice, leave em alone and stop deciding the gender of other people.

    • @JohnathanJWells
      @JohnathanJWells Před rokem +22

      @@Johnny_Shields If I could frame this comment I would

    • @Greatsharkbite
      @Greatsharkbite Před rokem +8

      Ill leave em alone, respect the thinking and dont think less of them but sorry i dont buy the gender is a personal choice thing.

    • @JohnathanJWells
      @JohnathanJWells Před rokem +26

      @@Greatsharkbite If you wanna be very technical, yeah you don't really get to choose whether you have dysphoria, but I suspect that's not what you meant.

    • @ghostofsilence2697
      @ghostofsilence2697 Před rokem

      @@JohnathanJWells I mean you can, it'll just take a bit of work is all

  • @LilHoneyTea
    @LilHoneyTea Před rokem +2

    I love the way this is more of a “For Beginners.” Love it! Thank you for the vid, Buns! 💜

  • @thefinalstair
    @thefinalstair Před rokem

    Yay!!!! I’ve been out of the loop so I’m super happy to see a new upload and promises of more!

  • @coma70se
    @coma70se Před rokem +128

    Me: finishes Catherine 2 days ago
    Buns: Blesses us with Catherine content
    Who says destiny isn't real?

    • @noahpauley
      @noahpauley Před rokem +2

      BRO SAME HERE

    • @butterflydreamer9649
      @butterflydreamer9649 Před rokem +2

      I finished Catherine 2 days ago and I’m going for the plat right now, it’s really funny timing

    • @SinHurr
      @SinHurr Před rokem +2

      Destiny 2 players

  • @nadiaw6218
    @nadiaw6218 Před rokem +281

    I really liked Rin. I was actually so surprised about how into his route I got. I feel like the overwhelmingly sweet and loving chemistry between him and Vincent is kinda canon for me.

    • @nadiaw6218
      @nadiaw6218 Před rokem +7

      @Grima the Fell Dragon I would. It's a good game if you can get into it. I loved the original and I was personally of Catherine with a C's team. She's my second favorite and while I'll never support cheating, theres something very magnitizing about her.

    • @redmage5251
      @redmage5251 Před rokem

      *her

    • @thedoodlehudson
      @thedoodlehudson Před rokem +11

      @@redmage5251 him. Rin is a crossdresser, not trans.

    • @redmage5251
      @redmage5251 Před rokem

      @@thedoodlehudson just because atlus is transphobic doesn't let you be

    • @thedoodlehudson
      @thedoodlehudson Před rokem +11

      @@redmage5251 There’s a trans character; Erica, who everyone refers to as a female and therefore isn’t a transphobic portrayal. Rin is a male crossdresser, who refers to himself as a male, and only characters who DON’T know refer to as a female. It’s a trope; he’s an “otokonoko”.

  • @bimbocindy
    @bimbocindy Před rokem +19

    I loved both the original and Full body even going out of my way to get the cute steelcase. I wish we had more games like Catherine, like small scale experiments that invert what a company is known for. Like personally I haven't gotten to the Persona games before since I was not the biggest fan of jrpgs but picked Catherine up in a sale and immediately fell in love with the style and beauty as well as the gameplay. It definitely gives me a reason to try Persona 5 but I have heard it can be a bit tricky to get into if you haven't played many jrpgs

  • @StudioNama
    @StudioNama Před rokem +20

    I've always BEEN Team Katherine. Guess that said a lot about me even before I figured things out myself.

  • @otakupower1048
    @otakupower1048 Před rokem +324

    It would have made more sense for Rin to have been an angel or something cause that alien shit threw me for a loop. Also you should check out 13 Sentinels its more of Vanillaware's baby but Atlus is the publisher and I think it had pretty good LGBT+ rep in it.

    • @hoshinokirbyenjoyer
      @hoshinokirbyenjoyer Před rokem +41

      @@Touma_S there is still same sex attraction between two characters in the original. the localization only changed one line that implies that a certain character is also non-binary.

    • @JohnathanJWells
      @JohnathanJWells Před rokem +31

      Rin is an angel tho
      It's just that angels in the Catherine universe are aliens

    • @otakupower1048
      @otakupower1048 Před rokem +12

      @@JohnathanJWells yea ik but without the alien stuff I think it would have just made more sense for them to be what we traditionally think of with angels, like how Catherine is a bona fide demon.

    • @geoshark12
      @geoshark12 Před rokem +22

      Welcome to atlus we put weird shit in our games because no one can stop us from doing so

    • @cristalat101
      @cristalat101 Před rokem +3

      True. Angels are meant to be androgynous as far as I know? It would have made more sense with Catherine being a demon too!

  • @itsdantaylor
    @itsdantaylor Před rokem +150

    11:18 It wasn't just infidelity, to the best of my knowledge the men are 'summoned' for basically 'wasting women's time'. Basically this demon/god is upset that these guys are not 'going forth and multiplying' with their women and instead keeping them from continuing the human race. (hence why Johnny was chosen as he was basically just leading his girlfriend on when he didn't want to commit). Which considering our overpopulation issue in some areas is a bit questionable.

    • @charlx8979
      @charlx8979 Před rokem

      I mean its a backwards rural sheep god, think of them like a religious yokel with really dumb views about sexuality

    • @vysharra
      @vysharra Před rokem +55

      Japan has a population growth issue (mostly due to their unrealistic immigration policies but regardless). It makes sense that Japanese writers would feel differently about this as their country is looking at serious deficits for their society in the future.
      Population growth levels out naturally but a society that shrinks too fast won’t be able to support their elderly, maintain a strong economy, or integrate immigrants slowly enough to maintain certain desirable cultural norms.

    • @ThePa1riot
      @ThePa1riot Před rokem +17

      Actually makes a lot more sense considering this is a Japanese game. Where they reproduce as quickly as pandas, ironically enough.

    • @kuro_mori_vt
      @kuro_mori_vt Před rokem +23

      Japan has the opposite issue of a lowering population. many japanese ppl are increasingly not interested in sex and relationships with other people, in part to their immigration policies, gender related tensions, and puritan, conservative general culture. the work culture also doesn’t exactly leave many people time for sex, so it’s a culmination of many things

    • @1810jeff
      @1810jeff Před rokem +3

      @@vysharra The West has low birthrates despite having very lax immigration laws. Opening immigration in Japan wouldn't boost the native Japanese population only replace it.

  • @COFFEEWSUGA
    @COFFEEWSUGA Před rokem +6

    "Your life won't change,"
    Catherine, the opposite of Persona 5

  • @bebop306
    @bebop306 Před rokem +1

    I love how you mention the sound effects. Little details that is honestly really overlooked.

  • @Johnny_Shields
    @Johnny_Shields Před rokem +38

    Those secret endings are funny, Katherine becomes the temptress that is playing and taunting Vincent, pretending to be with a new man to torment him even though she misses him, while the crazy bitch Catherine gives him the stable life with a family that he was scared of.
    It's like a zen riddle how the c/katherines weren't being true to themselves and were just playing a role, by switching it up they became happy.

  • @LogicProphet
    @LogicProphet Před rokem +34

    Bun's comedic timing always kills me. The whole flowers bit was gold.

  • @loveboxx6677
    @loveboxx6677 Před rokem

    This is my #1 favorite of all time thank you for taking the time to make this

  • @ThatWeirdGuyFromWork
    @ThatWeirdGuyFromWork Před rokem

    Super happy you’re back. Forgot I was subscribed and I was really happy to see this in my feed. Looking forward to more.

  • @sopranophantomista
    @sopranophantomista Před rokem +39

    Perfect KT cameos in this one. Nice to see you back on the grind, Buns! This has been a long time coming, and watching your progress on Twitter about editing this video was super insightful. Thanks for all your hard work and effort.

  • @daniel_cofresi
    @daniel_cofresi Před rokem +119

    Welcome back Super Butter Twinky 🥰 you've been missed, your unique style is always a breath of fresh air in these weird and crazy times

  • @vanessamoser8025
    @vanessamoser8025 Před rokem +1

    Love your voice, your personality, humor and content. Thank you for everything ❤️

  • @BrodyLister
    @BrodyLister Před rokem +1

    Recently discovered your channel!
    Your BotW video was my intro to your work...
    Buns, you are hilarious. Thank you for everything you do!

  • @diannemartin6923
    @diannemartin6923 Před rokem +48

    I just... I can't believe Ross and Barry's joke from Game Grmps about a 3rd Catherine being spelled with a "Q" came true.

  • @FauxRetro
    @FauxRetro Před rokem +52

    Congrats on the fantastic new video, Buns! Also: *_CAMP ROCK._*

  • @paddyfeeney7706
    @paddyfeeney7706 Před rokem

    So glad to see you back! We’ve missed you!!

  • @coffefighterz9641
    @coffefighterz9641 Před rokem +3

    I really liked this video because I don't play most games and I liked the jokes you made, also I really love that this got recommended for me because I truly felt that my routine in my life was what made me kinda miserable lately and hey I started changing that routine by seeing a video that I wouldn't normally see
    Very nice video hope CZcams keeps me notified

  • @Nasiruify
    @Nasiruify Před rokem +29

    When we needed her the most…she returned

  • @ImTopin
    @ImTopin Před rokem +42

    I can never stress how much I love this game and what kind of personal impact it's made on my perception of love and what it means to be in a relationship when I was a teenager seeing this for the first time. And it eggs at me how nobody else in my life can see it the way I do. They'd see the scantily clad woman on the cover and excuse the whole game thinking I'm only into the game for the look of it all when Catherine herself is far from one of the top reasons I love this game like I do. It's a comfort game for me too and it warms my soul every time I reminisce about it.
    This was also the first time I was ever introduced proper to a trans character in media and having learned it in a twist via the True Katherine ending was a nice surprise. Even looking back on it now, I personally feel like Erica was handled marginally well, even if some of that quality was wasted on jokes at Toby's expense.
    Full Body felt like a barb-wired fence to hop through when seeing the way people talked about it/Rin (with the twist of his identity on full display). As someone who has come to identify as demipan, Full Body helped me compartmentalize a few distinct perspectives about how relationships can work through the KCQatherines and I'm all the more grateful for the experience, even if Full Body isn't my preferred version (The pacing Really feels tilted when you're going for a specific girl while the game is trying to have it both ways; made it really disorienting playing the Rin route on my very first playthrough).
    Nevertheless, this game is so important to me and I am glad it was my first Atlus game before I ever even heard of Persona.
    If I ever end up having a daughter, I am going to name her Katherine.

  • @jacobcook6921
    @jacobcook6921 Před rokem

    Glad to see more! I’ve missed your content.

  • @nyxisbestboi
    @nyxisbestboi Před rokem +7

    Buns: "What? You didn't know about the secret Persona 4 level?"
    Me: Did you know Rin is a Velvet room resident and wrote The Poem For Everyone's Souls?

  • @sackfu7952
    @sackfu7952 Před rokem +21

    At best, Atlus get's a "You kind of tried, i think..."

  • @KirbyKips
    @KirbyKips Před rokem +94

    Personally, I always thought the added twist that Rin was also originally an alien who turned into a human to be really REALLY weird and left a bad taste in my mouth.
    Like…wasn’t this game originally about angels and demons, not aliens? Why not an Angel since Catherine was a Succubus?
    Maybe it’s just me, but the addition of those little pink aliens kind of annoyed me.

    • @Vanity0666
      @Vanity0666 Před 8 měsíci +1

      It's an evangelion thing

    • @aletanook
      @aletanook Před 2 měsíci

      I agree. The alien thing made no sense. Would've loved to see Rin and Catherine play off of each other.

  • @RickyLiveOG
    @RickyLiveOG Před rokem

    So glad you're making new content!!

  • @ashtonevans6488
    @ashtonevans6488 Před rokem

    Love you Buns!!!! So glad to see more content. No matter the frequency

  • @dr_edward_richtofen69
    @dr_edward_richtofen69 Před rokem +88

    If you want to avoid spoilers, they start around 12:00

    • @sukamadik5983
      @sukamadik5983 Před rokem +3

      Thank you 👍

    • @gremlinman9724
      @gremlinman9724 Před rokem

      aw man thanks dude i was trying to avoid story spoilers for this porn game from 3 years ago by watching an overview of the story

    • @dr_edward_richtofen69
      @dr_edward_richtofen69 Před rokem +12

      @@gremlinman9724 1) It's not a porn game. Heavy sexual themes? Absolutely. Porn? No. 2) Yea it came out 3 years ago, and even longer for the og one, but not everyone has played it soooo...

    • @Ozzianman
      @Ozzianman Před rokem +3

      @@gremlinman9724 If this was a porn game, this would have gotten an Adult Only rating and would not have been sold in stores or digitally on consoles.

  • @dr_edward_richtofen69
    @dr_edward_richtofen69 Před rokem +490

    Thank you for talking about the homo/transphobia & bigotry in Japan. You don't hear people talk about it often over here and it gets glazed over ALL the time. It was nice to hear someone address it in an adult mature way

    • @AlasKenn1
      @AlasKenn1 Před rokem +48

      Agreed, thank you Bun Mother. As for how much it's ignored, it is only ever made worse by Weebs being bigoted themselves. Big example recently, Bridget from Guilty Gear. She stated she goes by she/her pronouns and is VERY open with saying she's Trans, (to the shock of no one who knows her lore). Well, discourse has been pretty heated by the small but loud minority of people either actively searching through her lore to make the case that she's not trans, those still calling her a trap, and those really dumb guys shitting themselves sideways that how dare ArcSys bring PoLiTiCs and ThE gAy AgEnDa into my metal fighting game.

    • @omensoffate
      @omensoffate Před rokem

      It’s hilarious when the lgbtq are also bigoted. Don’t pretend you are some higher form of existence.

    • @kitkat2407
      @kitkat2407 Před rokem

      Hmmm don't know. I think japanese studios shouldn't include LGBT at all. They can only lose. No matter how you implement them someone complains. Also transphobia is a hard word in this case. You can over analyse it and find everything offensive.

    • @dr_edward_richtofen69
      @dr_edward_richtofen69 Před rokem +1

      @@omensoffate Oh so now the talking cheese is gonna preach to us

    • @JArt872
      @JArt872 Před rokem +25

      @@AlasKenn1 It's not true, I'm from Japan and that announcement was just for you western bros to eat that shit up, he still being referred as a Femboy in Japan the promotion already stated as such, not even long ago, no one gave two shits about him being a man and still liking girly things (which was inspirational) but you seem to look at the loss ending as canon, which completely defeats the purpose of his whole character. And frankly, I think it would've been so much better to have an original character that happens to be Trans than changing an already established character with an effed up backstory being tied to it, imagine that message being sent? (If you like stuff that belongs to girls and are wearing stuff that is for girls, then you are a girl even if you were forced to it at a young age)

  • @FoxPhantom21
    @FoxPhantom21 Před rokem +1

    I love how you make these jokes, makes it a whole lot entertaining, but the way you talk about these games are amazing!

  • @cheapshotninja
    @cheapshotninja Před rokem +1

    Holy crap! I'm so glad you're still around, love your content and sense of humor.

  • @trashy2086
    @trashy2086 Před rokem +3

    Waiting for this was 100% worth it. Maybe your best piece of work yet and I'm so ready to see what you do in the future Buns!

  • @thelightningking8772
    @thelightningking8772 Před rokem +27

    This video had me wheezing. Buns makes some of the best content out there

  • @justchilling7712
    @justchilling7712 Před rokem

    Rlly glad you’re back your vids are always a treat :3

  • @yamiaguirre
    @yamiaguirre Před rokem

    I missed this kind of videos so much and I loved this one! Great content!

  • @elektra1411
    @elektra1411 Před rokem +21

    I got really excited for this video, even though I know nothing of this game. Tbh when I'm feeling down I often watch one of your videos (usually botw, kh or ffxv for beginners) and they never fail to make me laugh! It's always a good day with a Buns video :')

    • @PLANTBAT
      @PLANTBAT Před rokem

      You should play Atlus games!

  • @BugsyFoga
    @BugsyFoga Před rokem +13

    Nice to have two Bun videos come out this year as oppose to just one .

  • @marissaleimone9270
    @marissaleimone9270 Před rokem

    YESSS omg I'm so glad you did a video on this!!

  • @thejonbrownshow8470
    @thejonbrownshow8470 Před rokem +8

    I wish there was endings with the guys you help save from dying in the nightmares as well, as I was kinda invested in helping out and talking to everyone during my only rin route

  • @mateogajardo2196
    @mateogajardo2196 Před rokem +12

    I woke up sick after vomiting all night just to found Buns uploaded a new video
    I'm not sure if I'm happy about spending the day in bed watching it in peace or just happy of Buns doing this kind of content again

  • @FlynnTheRedhead
    @FlynnTheRedhead Před rokem +3

    That intro was amazing! Glad to have you back Buttermother

  • @sirapple2406
    @sirapple2406 Před rokem +1

    Good to see you gushing about games again, you always had some of the best humor around.

  • @gabrielhilario1107
    @gabrielhilario1107 Před rokem

    Omg we needed a return! Thanks for the vid!

  • @martingonzalez2537
    @martingonzalez2537 Před rokem +2

    I never thought I'd live to see you post another vid again, literally made the past shitty week for me a whole lot better, fuckin love ya superbutterbuns glad to see ya back

  • @takemetoyonk
    @takemetoyonk Před rokem +44

    "a very girlgas, gatelight, bosskeep workin lady" oh no Tyler's imploding
    Also this is my favorite video from you ever. I could be wrong but I think I'm right

  • @fecal_position6412
    @fecal_position6412 Před rokem +2

    I missed you butterbuns, your voice soothes my soul

  • @punklover99
    @punklover99 Před rokem +4

    In a world of demons and nightmares an alien femboy isn't the most out there thing

  • @Apollo9898LP
    @Apollo9898LP Před rokem +44

    I am honestly only one gay person, and like I know that there are real femboys that exist who identify as men but present more or less as women. THAT SAID the way it's presented and the fact it's such a trope in Japanese media just makes the whole "representation" of Rin feel like a cop out.

    • @omensoffate
      @omensoffate Před rokem +4

      Typical. They do one thing but your group just wants more and more.

    • @Nero4Smash
      @Nero4Smash Před rokem +35

      @@omensoffate cry about it, atlus just wants to have it's cake and eat it too.

    • @Gabe413
      @Gabe413 Před rokem +22

      @@omensoffate 'they do one thing'. they could have done the one thing better if they gave a shit

    • @Apollo9898LP
      @Apollo9898LP Před rokem +9

      @@omensoffate womp womp

    • @bobob9969
      @bobob9969 Před rokem +6

      It's the framing of it imo, they make it sound like a gag or something to awkwardly laugh about.

  • @ultima1033
    @ultima1033 Před rokem +7

    THE BUNS IS BACK!!
    Edit: I see you got a certain someone to help with voice lines in this video

  • @stephenmaatstap5462
    @stephenmaatstap5462 Před rokem +3

    Congratulations on your marriage Buns, hope to see more videos from you soon.

  • @danielroman930
    @danielroman930 Před rokem

    i can't even describe how much i love you and am glad to see you back and better than ever.

  • @mattdixon2184
    @mattdixon2184 Před rokem +6

    The way I just dropped everything to come and watch this video! Welcome back Buns!

  • @michaelreuter2524
    @michaelreuter2524 Před rokem +5

    Buns uploads a video: "Watch dis."
    All of us: Comedy and quality editing - "Wooooo!"

  • @mrsauceman6825
    @mrsauceman6825 Před rokem

    Yooo kickass new vid let’s gooooo, can’t wait another half year for the next one

  • @SugiDev
    @SugiDev Před rokem

    Both your script and the production of value of this video is stellar. Just wow.