CLASSIC BATTLES: Rhinar vs Dorinthea FULL Review & Unboxing | Flesh and Blood TCG Review

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  • @Snyderco59
    @Snyderco59 Před 2 lety +7

    This review is perfect! So many current players I’ve talked to are kind of bashing this product but this isn’t made for us. It’s made for new players, the cold foil cards are basically a Costco sampler to showcase the beauty of CFs. The RF equipment is a sampler to how most current players like to have shiny ✨ show off like equipment ( not bashing, I do too). I have used mine already to teach friends about the game and it’s made explaining the steps much easier. It is a bit pricey but I would say it isn’t bad for a basic play introduction with Cold Foils and Rainbow Foils. I love the product and loved the review.

    • @box582
      @box582 Před 2 lety +5

      Overpriced. No how to play guide. Bent foils. No sleeves. Not even a life counter. This is a really bad intro to this game.

    • @Xadrian1000
      @Xadrian1000 Před 2 lety

      Sorry, but I don't think constructive critisism is the same as 'bashing'. And it's very odd for a "Beginner Product" to be that expansive. I know no other TCG where you pay 50$ for something, what's essentially a duel deck with some gimmicks. Why is there a lore booklet but no rule or how-to-play guide? What should a new player do with cold foils? Why is the package foil, but not even cardboard deckboxes in it?
      To point things like that out is no "bashing" but constructive critisism, what is important to keep the game healthy and successful. I don't want LSS become a second WotC, that doesn't care about their costumers anymore.

    • @angelvsmaster
      @angelvsmaster Před 2 lety

      @@box582
      You speak nothing but th' truth.

  • @mailman1021
    @mailman1021 Před 2 lety +4

    HAHAHAHAHA love it man. that intro was hilarious. I had to double take the channel name to make sure it was still you lol

  • @dreamweaver5803
    @dreamweaver5803 Před 2 lety +1

    Really digging your views on this. Nice to that you're objectively seeing the product for what it is and not getting upset that there aren't a bunch of major power creep cards included.

  • @Doctor_Paxmor
    @Doctor_Paxmor Před 2 lety

    The intro got me. First time seeing your videos, good work.

  • @bearinmindgroup
    @bearinmindgroup Před 7 měsíci +1

    New player here. Just bought this deck and will be arriving tomorrow. Looks great and I agree; CF and lore booklet are cool! They provide context and build the universe. I can't wait.

  • @radicaLsonZ
    @radicaLsonZ Před 2 lety +2

    I agree on the Rulebook, like in old MTG Starter/Tournament decks. I understand that in the web era is not necessary, but would have been a great retrò addon.
    How these decks would interact with the existing ones? As a casual player i'm only playing with the precons decks and i'm looking how they play together.
    cheers

  • @ThisIsDavin
    @ThisIsDavin Před 2 lety +4

    It's interesting how people seem to justify the price because it comes with cold foil cards.... But I've never paid extra for a booster that contained a cold foil 🤔

  • @Possu81
    @Possu81 Před 2 lety +5

    The biggest concern I’ve seen is that the product is way too expensive for new players and that’s exactly what is being advertised in the product. I think the product would have worked much better in the $ 10-20 price range. It's a miss what comes to pricing.

  • @Greyreal.
    @Greyreal. Před 2 lety +5

    I’m sad to see that these didn’t come with foldable cardboard deck boxes, but otherwise it’s an awesome set and really good at getting newer people familiar with the game.

  • @Toramenton
    @Toramenton Před 2 lety +2

    The Magic 2 player starter set is sub £8, I think that's a price point they need to hit with a 2 player product to reach the "I've never heard of this but it looks cool, let's try it" level. Ignoring price though I think what's in the box is solid and like you said has good reasons for being the power level it is.

  • @GoblinReserve
    @GoblinReserve Před 2 lety

    Great video buddy

  • @dhammacariyasoenarta5948

    Halo. I'm a new player for this game, I'm so excited for this set. So, is it the blitz deck which I could play it immedietly? Thanks

  • @SamuelGrahamDoesTCGs
    @SamuelGrahamDoesTCGs Před 2 lety

    Great review. I think you nailed it.

  • @SifSehwan
    @SifSehwan Před 2 lety +1

    Your review of the product is spot on. It looks like the price on these will settle at around 30-35 in Europe, which should be fine.
    I would have preferred if there were some cool to have cards like Rainbowfoil Bolters instead of Ironrot, Red Slice and Dice instead of En Garde, etc.

  • @MarkKnights
    @MarkKnights Před 2 lety +1

    I am completely new to this game. I have a friend that mentioned it in my vicinity recently and I am in the market for a new card game to play. I walked into my local game store and asked what do I need to start. He pointed me at Blitz decks and also advised that this product had come out that day. I got a Prism Blitz, a Briar Blitz, 4 boosters of the first edition reprints and this product. I will go as far to say I agree with you on the rules insert. It needs one desperately. I went to the website, watched the video and was thoroughly confused and missed some big ticket items on how to play. I have just finished a game against my friend and he cleared a lot up for me. This is a good game, and I want to invest. It is a shame that a product touting itself as "for new players" does not come with some form of the rules. But the cards are cool, the game is great. I would have been much happier getting the lore booklet as a rules booklet. The lore is cool, but as a new player would have much preferred to know how to play.

  • @darth_prentiss
    @darth_prentiss Před 2 lety

    OMG THE INTRO. CHEFS KISS. 😂🤣

  • @Easily_Irritated
    @Easily_Irritated Před 2 lety +1

    I couldnt agree more with the pricing.
    The decks themself are okeyish to learn the game, tho they couldve added a few logs to the powerlvl firepit imho.. like why are there yellow out for bloods and such.. just doent really make sense..
    I agree that its a good product for beginners overall but i find myself not believing that someone runs trough products at their LGS and picks up smthn for 50 bucks that hey never played. For 29.99 it wouldve been a different story..
    I do not agree to the CD part pf yours tho. I think they couldve just peinted all the cards normal or some in RF..
    Overall im okey with it, not gonna buy 3 for 50 bucks for the full playsrt of the new dory specialization :-)
    Great video mate, keep it up

  • @supermarioblacktiger
    @supermarioblacktiger Před 2 lety

    I like the product. I bought one. I planned on buying one from the beginning. But...
    The good
    The inclusion of foil cards, specifically cold foil was an intetesting choice to help new players see the different foilings. Some if not many new players have no idea what cold foil/rainbow foil means. Actually seeing it raises interest.
    As a stand alone product it is good for grinding out some games. Got a friend over or hanging out at an lgs? Here's everything you need to play, go have fun.
    Some of the new cards are interesting and I look forward to them being released in future sets (titanium bauble).
    New brute and warrior mentors
    The lore booklet is neat
    The bad
    It's actually pretty expensive for new players. While not official I've seen "starter" decks that include more at a lower price. 12-20 dollars got a deck, some tokens (paper and dice), a paper playmat and a cheat sheet for the rules.
    There's many "similar but worse" cards. Not the worst thing but feels more like filler as opposed to deck strategy.
    Rhinar sort of got the short end of the stick.
    They should have included tokens or something for keeping track of resources. Is it necessary? Not always but it didn't have to be anything fancy, similar to pokemon or modern magic commander decks.
    Long story short- it's a fancy looking product i don't regret buying one but there are better alternatives for starting this game (depending on your options). Get one if it calls to you.

  • @RoflWaffer
    @RoflWaffer Před 2 lety +4

    I think the price point is such a huge fumble from LSS. Two blitz decks separately would be $30, 15 each. I don't see what this product adds that warrants a $20 price increase over that. A handful of foils and a cheap little booklet don't do it for me. Everyone says the product is for new players, but I think that this price point is even less appealing for new players. You're paying $50 for mostly crappy cards that you'll have to replace anyway if you decide to invest further into the game.
    The idea of the product is good, but the fact that it's so expensive is just a shot in the foot. I think trying to justify the price is just straight copium.

  • @yellowpitch1840
    @yellowpitch1840 Před rokem

    I like the shiny ones.

  • @captnweasle
    @captnweasle Před 2 lety +1

    very good video

  • @Saltyseacat33
    @Saltyseacat33 Před 2 lety +1

    I want this product to collect but on the other hand for 30 bucks more I can get a booster box

  • @Ilphikur
    @Ilphikur Před 2 lety

    The new kind of bauble confirms your guess of dragon eggs I think!
    What is your opinion about this?

  • @MadTownHobby
    @MadTownHobby Před 2 lety

    Most stores will sell for mapp at $40.... but that lower margin may not make it worth it overall.

  • @zacharygordon2983
    @zacharygordon2983 Před 2 lety +1

    I feel like it is a great product. I feel like the price could have been justified if LSS included sleeves.

  • @K7E7I
    @K7E7I Před 2 lety +10

    Why do people think that weak / bad cards are good for teaching new players? A 4-block defense reaction is just as easy to understand as a 2-block. Same story with the Sigil of Solace and any other blue card instead of the Bauble. I agree the cards don't all have to be collectible, but I'd prefer if they provide players with decks that can actually be upgraded more easily.

    • @CoastalWizard
      @CoastalWizard Před 2 lety +5

      It's likely to try and let the product make its way to new players rather than existing players buying them all just for the good cards

    • @K7E7I
      @K7E7I Před 2 lety +2

      @@CoastalWizard If experienced players don't want (most of) the cards in this product, doesn't it feel a bit insincere to recommend this to new players?
      As a counter-example, My LGS recently got new starter decks for the Digimon TCG (which I don't play... yet). They excitedly told me that it's a great product if I'm interested in learning because (1. it comes with instructions on how to play and (2. it contains good cards that are relevant in the meta. I'm much more inclined to buy this starter deck knowing that I can upgrade it to be competitive, if I wanted to. Of course, it also really helps that it's $12.99 per deck!

    • @CoastalWizard
      @CoastalWizard Před 2 lety

      @@K7E7I I think that those decks are likely more comparable to the blitz decks released for each set (although I may be mistaken and really they aren’t hugely better. I agree, they’re not good for a player to then upgrade, but then again k think that may stop new players from feeling locked into the hero that they started with. I know that happened to me and my local scene for sure, I started on Briar and my friend on Oldhim and we haven’t changed classes since so…

    • @K7E7I
      @K7E7I Před 2 lety

      @@CoastalWizard I agree that the Digimon starters are more comparable to blitz decks (from my limited understanding). I started learning FAB with a Briar blitz deck as well! But since blitz decks are so cheap, I picked up a couple more and found that I really like Boltyn. Wouldn't you think that paying $50 for a product will make you feel more locked in with a specific hero?

    • @CoastalWizard
      @CoastalWizard Před 2 lety +1

      @@K7E7I Spending $50 will just make it worse for sure

  • @RareManga
    @RareManga Před 2 lety

    Yeaaaahhhhhhh

  • @chubberdunkus6153
    @chubberdunkus6153 Před 2 lety +4

    I feel like commoner decks are almost a better intro to players than classic battles. I’ve prefered using Joey Senart’s starter lists as they are easy to make and show an important aspect of the game: cards can have different pitch values. Classic battles having only one pitch type per card hugely detracts from what the game is. Cold foils are nice though, and I feel like for being a new player having some “bling” will be huge. I just feel like LSS could have really knocked this out of the park, instead they hit an easy strike for a single.

    • @DMArmada
      @DMArmada  Před 2 lety

      Counterargument: in order for a new player to learn the game with community-driven commoner decks, they would need some connection to the community or a "teacher" in-store to demonstrate the game and give them decks. This product can stand on its own and allow two players to learn from the ground up by themselves. I think both methods have merit and should be used in different cases!

  • @argothianswine5125
    @argothianswine5125 Před 2 lety

    For everything you get the price isn't bad. It's a neat gift to a friend who may want to jump in to the game. Anyone bitching about price should just buy the $13 starter decks and stfu already. >.> :"OMG THE PRIICE" ::game literally filled with employed 20+ yo men. lel

  • @Dotxygaming
    @Dotxygaming Před 2 lety

    woah woah EASY on that intro! The prof is gonna call the board on you

  • @perryuploads776
    @perryuploads776 Před 2 lety

    Great Video DMArmada. Can I have a suggestion? Can you please set your camera on auto focus. You look blurry and the cards all look blurry on the table. I can't watch the video without hurting my eyes :p . Thanks again!

  • @Pokephantom
    @Pokephantom Před 2 lety +2

    Yeah 50 is too much for a starter product.

  • @tomlikeabomb6706
    @tomlikeabomb6706 Před 2 lety +1

    It’s just too expensive for me to want to purchase it as a new player. I’ll probably just get some of the blitz decks.

  • @michaelc6817
    @michaelc6817 Před 2 lety

    No rule/player guide for a "New Player" product is an epic failure, however LSS designer's mindset may have been to drive the "New Player" to the website. Provide the darn rule/player guide with the box! A new player wouldn't even know what the card components of pitch, cost, intellect, power, and defense are, never mind the sequence of a turn or even the win condition.
    Also, the packaging doesn't really offer a good "between play sessions" storage solution. The box should have a bottom with an insert that lets you place the decks back in the box in a secure fashion along with the playmat and lore book. Then there should be a lid to close the box.
    The decks and cards themselves are pretty good for beginners to start with. Slightly dumbed down relative to let's say the existing Blitz decks, yet still provide exposure to the basic turn-based mechanics of the game.
    The lore pamphlet is so so. Nice, but I can see it just being tossed to the side. Seems it would have been better to provide a rule/player guide in this format and drive the players to the website for the lore, which is essentially the same as the physical lore book.
    $50.00??? Too much for sure. At that MSRP, you have to expect highly critical review of the set. The $40.00 many stores are selling for?? A bit better. I suppose LSS is thinking this should be a little more than the cost of two Blitz decks for the "extra" stuff.
    I bought one, because I buy at least one of everything with FAB cards.

  • @playtimetcg
    @playtimetcg Před 2 lety

    I almost agree with all of this, on one hand it is a good product for new players to learn the game, well designed for that purpose. My biggest confusion is the inclusion of new cards that some already entrenched players are going to want, so the product seems to have a duel identity (and I don't mean Rhinar and Dorinthea's identities)

  • @izzy8371
    @izzy8371 Před 2 lety +1

    I'll share the same comment i put elsewhere if that's alright (oo )
    Well to be honest i think that Duel Deck box could be better. I was waiting for it for weeks but now it seems they could have added better cards.
    I don't think new players will appreciate foil equipment. They look amazing but they could have added some better stuff. Also only one Majestic (if we don't count the Mentor)?
    Glistening Steelblade will be a key card for every Dorinthea version so i hoped they would add two of them.
    There are some other issues like what kind of cards they used for those decks. For Dorinthea there are some with cost 1 give plus 3 damage while you have others that give a go again along with damage.
    Another example is Raging Onslaught, for Rhinar, that can be replaced by Wounded Bull cause it has a good effect.
    I will replace some cards I have in my Dorinthea deck with those new ones ( for example Blossom of Spring will replace my Blood Drop Brocade ) but I think it's better to buy them as singles and not the box.
    So personally i didn't like it that much but it's a good touch. Maybe if two friends want to spend from 20$ each and try the game, if they are not familiar with any marketplaces to get singles, it can be good but still :|
    Also i was waiting for your review as well and always excited to see your videos and thoughts!: 3
    And I apologize if my comment was very negative :/

    • @izzy8371
      @izzy8371 Před 2 lety

      Also omg, the intro. I CAN'T XD that was a good one

  • @drunkenwarbee3505
    @drunkenwarbee3505 Před 2 lety

    16:20 I don't enjoy seeing foils. They give me headaches.

  • @hunterwright5528
    @hunterwright5528 Před 2 lety +1

    I thought they would be better the price Is high for introductory players and the cards aren’t worth the $70 dollar value the lore book 📚 isn’t even hard copy nor something you would display.

  • @Xadrian1000
    @Xadrian1000 Před 2 lety +3

    Many Flesh and Blood Players ask the question:
    Is it worth to buy Classic Battles: Rhinar vs. Dorinthea?
    Well, if you don't mind to spend 50$ for two Blitz Decks, a cheap paper playmat and an even cheaper lore booklet (which is of course not even hardcover) than yes, but if you have any resonable senses for prices and value, hell not.
    Grade:
    A (for a price of 20$)
    B (for a price of 30$)
    C (for a price of 40$)
    D (for a price of 50$)
    F (anything above)

  • @angelvsmaster
    @angelvsmaster Před 2 lety

    Ø555Ø
    See I told you guys before.
    RHINAR won't be new.
    How damn disappointment.

    • @angelvsmaster
      @angelvsmaster Před 2 lety

      Lol that price......
      They should include deck box, classic constructed gameplay (60 cards) instead of Blitz and YOUNG AND ADULT HERO.

  • @bblappalappa3598
    @bblappalappa3598 Před 2 lety +2

    Hi DM, normally I love your content, but I disliked this video. I believe internet anonymity is not always fair and felt, you as the content creator, deserved a reasoning for my dislike. At $50, half the cost of a Booster Box (at retail), the value, provided by LSS is downright insulting. As Chunberdunkus suggested, commoner is the much better value (both in financial terms as well as playability). Furthermore, and as mentioned by Izzy, Glistening Steelblade, should not have been included in a product like this. Glistening Steelblade appears to be the sole chase card, and is unique and exclusive to this two player set. LSS is establishing a very dangerous precedent by including this card and appears to be taking advantage of both the newer player and the established one. In theory, there will be people spending $150 to get 3 cards (I will not be one of them). IMO, 3 copies of Glistening should have been given as a good faith gesture to the playing community.

  • @xlnt2new
    @xlnt2new Před 2 lety

    there is no value in adding a booklet to teach the game, waste of resources, adds to the price and complexity of production, info already easily available and so on. learn to product own (;

  • @mikeb.1300
    @mikeb.1300 Před 2 lety

    They put a blue sigil of solace in the deck. Whoever made this deck list definitely doesn't play the game. I love FAB, but this one missed the target.

  • @hironagamaki9744
    @hironagamaki9744 Před 2 lety

    yeah...
    ...
    this classic battles set is a bust
    price-wise
    intro is fine