Why The Eddsworld Fan Movie FAILED
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If I were going to develop an Eddsworld fan movie, I wouldn't. I'd make an enormous Marvel-tier Newgrounds crossover adventure instead.
Ok now that's not actually a bad idea-
you're kidding right?
No he's not kidding. He is serious.
That’s amazing and definitely something I’d love to help out with
That's a really good idea!
So, fun little blub from a former EWFM crew member:
I was brought onto the fan movie during PiP’s run as director to help with re-writing the script and I cannot emphasize enough how frustrating it was trying to get anything done on it. Before we even started writing, he sent me the wrong version of the script twice before I got to see what was the most recent version of the script at the time. We only had two writing sessions, one where act one was finished and the other where we literally only got a page written in the span of two and a half hours. PiP wanted the all of the crew to be involved in the script and thought it would be a great idea to let everyone come in during the writing session, but what ended up happening was that no one was working on the script and everyone was talking over one another about topics that had nothing to do with the movie. I think there were about ten people in the call and only two people were the “writers”. I asked PiP afterwards if we could limit the amount of people in the call while we wrote so we could focus on the script and that people could comment notes on it once we were done, but he told me “No, it’s not a real problem, it’s fine.” That was also the last scripting session we ever had and that was months before the movie was shut down. He’d keep messaging “Hey, feel like writing this weekend for whoever’s gonna be available” in the general chat and then nothing would happen. I’d keep asking and be told that we’d do it “soon” and then it never came. I was actually tempted to rewrite the script myself because of how long it was taking, but, y’know, it ended so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Good video though my dood, “This ship of Theseus of a production” was not something I was expecting to hear, but it’s a pretty good way to describe the project.
i mean, that isnt a good thing to do as a producer, but about the script, how was the rewrite like before it got cancelled? I mean, it's already cancelled so i think it wouldnt hurt to know a bit about it
But of course, you can decline this if you want to, your choice if you would like to give a bit of a hint on how the script could've been!
@@ElsStudio239 there's a link to the EWFM archive in the description with every iteration of the script if you're curious
@@maxresdefault_ thanks for the info!
fishie
Hey, I've been wondering, was cutting down Act 1 to be shorter intentional? In most of the script drafts before the big rewrite it's around 20 to 30 pages long, but in the rewrite it's only around 14 pages long, was that intentional in order to make the movie flow better or was that an oversite?
The downfall of this project seems to be that none of the people at the top could resist getting distracted by the gravity of what they were undertaking, so instead of working on the movie, they set and achieved shorter, easier goals for themselves, like minisodes, podcasts, fan engagement etc.
That wouldn't have been a bad thing if the original goal was to make an Eddsworld fan series... But it wasn't.
Animator for the infamous “Best of Both Worlds” short here. This project was doomed at the start in my opinion. Younger me couldn’t see it at the time, but holy shit.
wtf was marc thinking inserting his tickle kink
@@emiliaserra1333 no idea. I have vivid memory of being in a Skype Call with him and saying “hey, this is really weird and doesn’t fit with anything in the story” and he said “it will be funny”
To be honest, when i was in the project i use to complain about the lack of activity and Marc presence being rare in the discord server.
When the project started to have new directors left and right, it was beginning to concerned me. Though i remain neutral at the time.
How ever back in 2019 PIP decided to get rid of my role as audio editor (Mainly he decided to do the editing by himself), he did wanted to give me a second chance with a new role.
I decided to leave, because i knew this project was not going so well in it direction back when. It was full of unprofessionalism.
I hope your having better opportunities as animator.
VA for Tom for both that minisode and the movie as a whole here, looking back on it I definitely see it as a kind of “beginning of the end” deal, where some of the troubles we were going through were really starting to show
@@LN_1995 You were so good in the Fan Movie and BOBW!! I loved your work as Tom, it was fantastic!!
the fact that this went in this direction is sad. there was SO MUCH potential in this! it could've been. so. good!
Well, we got eddsworld back we don't need it
Fun Fact: WAAAAAY back when this movie was in production, I was almost going to be in it as a background voice. I think I was going to voice a zombie or something lol
That’s really cool
I think the biggest flaw in this “movie” is that they never had a base, never knew where to go, they were just making the movie as they went they never looked back.
I've known Collin since I was 12 and he's really come a long way with the stuff he made, it's awesome working with him as well
9:52 "You ever watched a movie that feels both gay and homophobic at the same time" 10/10 quote
I love you, The Tomee Bear.
Thank you for all your help and the lovley shoutout to our comic!! xoxo
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funnily enough eddsworld came back with a video mocking the fandom for being degen TRASH during the film's chaotic development.
the finest meme magic in all of britain... worthy of a chef's kiss!
whats the name of the video that mocked the fandom
@@yeth797 fan service 2
At least McCoy and Martin aren't dead characters and have their own story now. They deserve it after all this time.
*quietly deletes the 20-page script for my future ewfm retrospective*
all joking aside, great video as always (and thanks for the shoutout :D)! i'd been gathering research for my own video about the 'Lovallo cut' since 2020 (a video that has been going through production hell for the past 2+ years, for a multitude of reasons), but i still learned things about the fan movie production that i didn't previously know about in this video! i'm also just relieved to see this absolute dumpster fire of a fan project end on a positive note. i'm definitely going to read Operation Lost Cause asap :)
Honestly I'm still upset regarding Marc Lovallo. I loved his game reviews, but after what came out about him basically being Dan Schnider 2.0, I was devistated as 2020 was already a super frustrating year, and that just felt like another way for 2020 to screw me over.
Personally, as the voice of commander Bai, by 2020 I had recorded all of my lines several times.
Not gonna lie, the movie's re-writing really annoyed me. I had fully intended to record new stuff but in the years since I enrolled, my situation changed a lot and I just wasn't as invested by the end.
It was all kind of a mess
Edit: Funny enough, the one clip of Bai in this video is voiced by Marc and NOT me
I'd always been wondering how many times the actors had to redo their lines, did you have to do it with each draft or just Director?
@@AAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH whenever there was a full draft of the script with major changes to my lines, I would get on a call with a director and record lines again.
It could often wait thankfully, depending on which scenes were being animated at the time
The beginning of a new chapter… here’s to new adventures and good times!! Read Operation Lost Cause!!! 💚
“This movie somehow feels gay and homophobic at the same time”
wHY AM I FUCKING LAUGHING AT THIS THAT SHOULDNT BE FUNNY-
I'm just glad the talented animators got to actually work on Eddsworld after everything that happened. At least there was one good outcome to all this. The EW movie eventually slipped out of my mind as I got older but I was genuinely excited for it when I was 11
You know its funny a lot of people dont also know this but the voice for Edd also did some questionable things with me and an ex friend of mine when we were minors although I dont have proof of this happening anymore bc why would I
It seems like most ppl who worked on this movie turned out to be creeps and I ironically had a creepy interaction with Marc as well. Take this with a grain of salt though I know it doesnt sound like this was real and didnt happen to me but it did. Anyways I really loved your video and thank you so much for covering the behind scenes of the EW movie :)
I hope you are doing better, no one deserves to go through something like that :(
Yeah the problem with them is the director was just thinking of only himself and other people what happy why he was doing on his own not thinking of rest if you want to do a fun movie something like that you cannot just ignore and kicking off all the fan people because this could result years and later failure if you actually example if you want to make a fun movie you must listen to people that you want but it will take time for that and if you succeed try and one with it it could succeed if you’re not unless if they took a long time and kick off and not kicking all the people of the fans because it would succeed your find movie so develop better and make it a proper one they should’ve done that but the problem is they’re not actually British UK English they’re just from the US that’s a problem if they were from the UK they could’ve do it properly and no I think if Edward didn’t pop up straight away because of do it easily.
Had a stroke reading that
OH MY GODDDDD THE SERVER TAKES ME BACKKKK
I think if it hadn’t been for the discord server at the time, and if I didn’t join it, I wouldn’t be where I am today! Even with its downfall n all, I loved the absolute shit outta it- (the discord server rip btw, and the characters, PLUS THE STAFF)
I personally cannot WAIT for more of the future comic, OP Lost Cause!! COLLIN AND CAT FTWWWWWWWW- I’m honestly so happy that they revived McCoy and Martin and just ALL THE CHARACTERSSSSS INNIT !!
(Also hehe 3:58 hey look ma I’m on tee vee!!1,1!)
Mintu fame arc
I CANNOT BREATHE 9:46 "some innocent english folk who jsut sit arouund and drink tea all day??" bro they do NOT drink tea
Yeah! Edd likes Cola. >=(
2018 was the year I was most invested in the fandom. I remember being hyped for the fan movie and being on the project's Discord server and all. Although, I did not know a lot of what has happened since then. I knew it was cancelled, but I didn't know of all the bad stuff that happened, nor did I know of that comic series that spawned from it. I gotta have a look at that one.
9:46 Matt has forgotten the events of him in war after he made himself forget the events prior to 25ft under the sea episode in that episode
I just noticed something! In the end part 2, when Tom discovers Tord is a wanted criminal, he kicks down the door. But next to the door during that moment is a black hoodie on a coat hanger. Nice little easter egg that I haven't seen discussed on CZcams before.
I'm pretty sure this channel mentioned it in a video
I had heard a lot of the Eddsworld Fan Movie drama...but I did NOT expect it to be this bad.
I used to know Mark before the death of Edd but afterwards I lost touch with the community after all the flack Tom had caught. Kinda crazy what happened while I wasn't paying any attention to any of this.
The key to making a show or a movie is make a script before you get voice actors, and don’t release trailers ahead of time, also even if you do finish your show or movie make sure your almsot done with it, than make a trailer and date
i remember being extremely active in the discord server, i dont remember much but i do remember it not being the greatest ran server in the world. i used to be so excited for this movie and i cant believe i forgot about all those memories until i saw this
This film's production seemed like an absolute trainwreck from start to cancellation, and the two directors outed as groomers was the final nail in the coffin. At least Collin got to take McCoy and Martin and had a victory lap of his own.
Absolutely fantastic! I appreciate you making this man!
Did You Know That On The Legacy Indiegogo Campaign There Was A Goal That Would've Gotten Us An Official Eddsworld Movie?
Makes You Wonder What Would've Been If The Indiegogo Reached That Goal
good video! honestly the leaked fanmovie version had such a weak script its a shock it even went into storyboard. im glad to see its led to a beautiful comic being developed though!
0:21 fr the tomee bear is the reason why
I remember waaaayyyy back in 2014, they released a teaser that said "My fellow Americans". I was so disappointed that they were switching the location to America, as a Brit growing up with American cartoons, Eddsworld was so refreshing to have set in the UK. I clearly wasn't alone because after asking the team on Facebook, they had to make a separate post about it. Bad decision.
(Side note: LOVE THEREALJIMS TRIBUTE)
THEY SWITCHED THE LOCATION TO *_W H A T_*
if torchwood miracle day taught me anything is that never switch the location of a british thing to the USA, fans WILL be mad even if it's not as bad as it's made out to be (and in this case it is)
@@lexezlaothey probably did it because most of the fan base are American from my knowledge and you know that whole stereotype of Americans not understanding culture shit outside of the USA so putting it in America would reach a wider audience in there mind.
@@micjimster4845 my point still generally stands
@@lexezlao I wasn't disagreeing or anything just giving a reason on why they do stuff like this.
I didn't really watch Eddsworld, and I do like watching Marc Lovallo's videos (ignoring the scandal), but even I knew the movie wasn't good (even if it wasn't properly completed)
Oh my god. 7 years for NOTHING!? wow...
dude i don't understand english, but your videos are very good, thanks for subtitles
as far as fandoms go, Im glad my 12-14 pick was Eddsworld
sure it had... this, and all the comments below
But I think that made me aware of many things to do with who I choose to surround myself with (toxic fandom hah) and really developed my sense of humor
Someone should make a real Eddsworld fan-movie when “New Eddsworld” ends
Man the Eddworlds fan community has loads of weirdos it’s crazy 💀
Fr a show like Eddsworld doesn’t deserve that shit
Wow, I can't believe you got THE Collin from PieLordPictures!
The fan movie channel was just hacked.
You really went into detail about the eddsworld fan movie and I appreciate that your content is awesome 👌
it's been years but I'm never going to forget Ed
What was Tords role in all of this? Since he wasn't present at all in the story board that was released.
So, General McCoy is officially part of the Eddsworld characters now?
That means he will be also a villain of the MCU as well, next to Evil Director and Tord.
No? When did they say that?
@@anonymouslucario285 Just now. I feel like Eddsworld and Crash Zoom should be part of Marvel studios
@@alfredoalvarez5735 McCoy is not an official character
@@anonymouslucario285 Huh? He should, since from the Eddsworld fan movie. They should consider General McCoy canon
@@alfredoalvarez5735 no, the former director owns the rights to those characters and made an original comic with them
I remember the Mark Lovallo version of the project! Oh god, that was such a long time ago,,,
I'm still gutted by what happened with him 2 years ago, and how he got exposed as Dan Schnider 2.0. He was one of my favorite CZcamsrs until that shit came to light.
I cant believe this is how i found out about marcs stuff damn i was a fan of his until right now
I was thinking of making a fan movie of Edd'sworld my first attempt was upside down second attempt is going much better but still a lot to finalize hope I can get it by the end of this year now
OMG, I GOT EXCITED WHEN CAT FORD CAME OUT, I LOVE THAT ARTIST SO MUCH, I AM A FAN OF THE HELP
I looked back at the old EW Fan movie a few times since I first heard about it and watched their stuff until I got out of the fandom entirely in 2018 (thank god for that, it was so toxic by the time I left. All I wanted to see was the art! But noooo, now you have to see pre-teens go rabid and gross about four very real British boys, one of which isn’t with us anymore) and, upon retrospection without ever touching Eddsworld content years later, felt genuinely irked by what I remembered of the project and the people working on it. Now, I guess I see why, but the other thing was that I remembered Mark’s remarks (heh) about the official E.W. shorts.
He praised the old stuff religiously until Edd passed and the project was undertaken by other artists, already suffering from his loss. He’d nit-pick really small details, if I recall (can’t actually view the old videos anymore), that weren’t at all relevant from a story-tellers perspective. He once criticised the episode Temmie Chang worked on (Saloonatics) and claimed that her cute little nod to her working on Undertale (also in The End, too) as a “dated reference”… Which kind of shows no respect to the Temmie and the other talented artists involved in making that game, which doesn’t translate well to someone undertaking an entire project who also has no idea how long movies take to make in every aspect of development.
Everything I recall him saying puts a sour taste in my mouth, and now it’s nice to at least put a reason as to why and, since the movie’s cancellation, might finally be the final nail in the coffin of the toxic fanbase of Eddsworld.
(And to everyone involved with anything E.W. related, if you’re reading this, I repent for my sins of being apart of that side of the fandom as I was a wee little lad who didn’t understand what dignity was.)
Well not all of them are British, one is from Norway if you didn’t know abt that
@@kashuchott1 Oh, I knew…
Oh knew…
(moment of recollective silence…)
I guess I just wrote British because Tord left for the rest of the show, but they still did obsess over him. They probably loved him the most, actually. Okay, so I guess I just wrote British boys as a generalisation.
So this is why the name turned into your favorite martians CZcams name in 2021
1:51 I love TheRealJims parody you did there. As always great video Tomee Bear!
Im always very happy when he uploads
thats it its time to put it in my hands i must make a eddsworld fan movie vs the red army
This vid was abselutely amazing! you should watch this right now if your a eddsword fan.
Oh yeah I helped with some of the behind the scenes and update videos for the movie.
mans spent 2 years on this.
worth it.
Lore of Why The Eddsworld Fan Movie FAILED momentum 100
Why does the thumbnail character look like he's from Epithet erased? EDIT: oh now I get it xD
Dude I just re-watched Zanta Claws 3 with subtitles and in the scene where The XMASBOT shows up the subtitles say oh a less cool version of Tord's robot which I found surprising cause the end part 2 and Zanta Claws 3 came out in a 6 year radius. So I was shocked when they said that and they were hiding this for 6 years. I watched Zanta Claws 3 from Eddsworld complete the channel so they might have done it a year ago idk.
the fandom is making a new fan movie
I was almost apart of the project. When I was 10 I signed up on the discord server and got hired lol. It may not be the same one, my memories are blurry.
It took me two years to realize that the thumbnail of the video had a green heart for edd a purple heart for Matt a blue heart for Tom and a red heart for trod but trod heart the red heart was broken
You should make a video on Ringo
7:53, 10:31 - censor bar on eyes because edgy
*9:45*
Me: ya sure about that *flashback to Moving targets*
A strange thing I noticed when comparing the latest draft of Jon's cut to the first one, in the first one whenever the news mentions General McCoy, they refer to him as "General Arthur McCoy" but in the latest draft they removed "Arthur" but instead of just removing it they dashed out all the letters, so it now reads as "General ------ McCoy"
@The Tomee Bear- Dude! I would LOVE to work with you & Collintoons! I have so many ideas to give for Eddsworld but, I don't want to pester the heck out of Matt. May I join you're guys team? 🙏🥺
The fact that the plan was gonna be a bright side to know more about some craziness, jokes and stuff that we didn't know which made me sad for not seen it :
I wish the eddsworld fan movie wasn't deleted
R.I.P EddsWorld fan movie making 2013-2020 21 or 22
I applied to volunteer on the first iteration of this. I can't remember if I was accepted or not but I remember that I got ghosted lol. I guess I dodged a bullet ?
I really want to see it finalised.
Too bad
crap
@@anonymouslucario285 yeah it really is too bad! There was a lot of effort put in from some interesting people, and itd be fun to see.
I was a fan of eddsworld back then I wasn’t in the fandom they thought I disappeared no I was working on my series and projects and editing the art style
I might come back to the fandom sometime soon
New eddworld video pog
imma try making the entire movie 2019-2020 cut from all the things included in the google drive
The Entire Animatic Exists Too (On CZcams)
Im so sad 😔 that The Eddsworld Movie is not coming out
Same 😔
@@AmyEddsworld204 Still sad!
I think it's fine but I don't know why movie is still developing but cancelled
That's good info The Tomee Bear
i think eddsworld themselve should support this project directly or atleast work on the rest of it.
edit: yeah nevermind now i think about meh might not be something "good" for eddsworld themselve even tho the fans would love it considering me but it could bring some harm
Wow these guys really suck at making a movie, at least McCoy isn't dead
im trying to do a few shorts of eddsworld but nothing like this. kinda sad
Me and my friend are making a eddsworld movie
Cool can you tell when it will be finished so I can watch it :>
R. I. P
Please Make An Eddsworld Trivia
Mistake me if I’m wrong but was Tord going to be in the movie?
He was for the first few drafts, but when Pip came in he wrote the character out of the story
@@TheTomeeBear He was planning to write him out of the story, he never got that far though
I watch videos like this because I don't want to go searching for information that's "out there". Just state the facts. As long as you don't give your opinion or spread rumors, no one will fault you for it.
So I tried to check the fan mvoie channel,but it looks like it was deleted,anyone know why?
I think they were removed for community violations? Not sure why
@@TheTomeeBear Marc Lovallo's YT channel got hacked by those crypto tesla bot streams. It also took all his sub-channels, including Fan Movie.
I found out really early in the morning and tried to fix up the channel before it got taken down but after a few hours it got flagged and was deleted.
Me and one of the other crew members managed to save every video on the channel before it was deleted. They won't be added to the archive for various reasons but they are safe and secured. :)
,,have you ever watched a movie that feels gay and homophobic at the same time" holly shit I'm dead☠
Im happy it atleats made a nice comic and super cool artwork
collin pie loud
I like pretzels
Well
Why hasn't Marc been chased off the internet yet?
Geebus, why is the EW fan community so full with drama.
Bad apples exist in every fandom. You do realize that, right?
it's not called the EW community for nothing
#revive the eddsworld movie!
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