Surface Shield vs Fluid Film: Lanolin Rust Prevention
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- čas přidán 2. 06. 2024
- Surface Shield vs Fluid Film: Lanolin Rust Prevention. This time at the Quick Speed Shop its another lanolin rust prevention shootout! I am going to demonstrate both Surface Shield by PB Blaster and Fluid Film. Both are lanolin, sheep wool oil, and if your car or truck is driven in winter elements then you know how important it is to protect your ride from the ravages of road salt in the winter. Lets compare both Surface Shield and Fluid Film and coat a new Honda Pilot in the process.
$283: 5 gal Surface Shield from Amazon
$215: 5 gal Fluid Film from Napa
kellsport.com for the application gun
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Fluid Shield is best
What about Surface Film?
Thanks for another comparison video for a product we all need in the Northeast.
Thank you for this video, I do ebnjoy these and all your video's Sir. Have a great week
We'll see how the Surface Shield holds up.
I’ve been using fluid film since 2016 on ram 2500. Awesome stuff. I’ve also used corrosion x
Can't wait to see the results.
I use PB blaster stuff all the time. Surface shield on my boats trailer in salt water and salt hasnt touched it.
I can tell you that the Surface Shield is not easy to power wash off. it should last excellent. I tried power washing my steel wheel spare so i could bring it in and have the tire changed. I had used it last December... that was June. The stuff seemed excellent. Underside of my vehicle will get a "touch up" this November and recoat the whole thing next fall. Pretty happy with it so far. edit: to add that the Surface Shield smells a lot better than the FF. I used som FF from a spray can inside the doors so i would not have to bother with the compressor and gun. The smell wasn't great for a couple weeks.
If you're re-coating once a year anyway, why spend double for SS? This was my rational when I saw the gallon price of SS vs. FF.
@@red6743 It sticks better to cross members in the front end that get blasted with road spray and splashes.. I really believe it's a better product. Ya' get what you pay for I think, so it comes down to personal preference and I live in the salt-belt so I feel it's money well spent.
I'm very interested in how Surface Shield will look next spring. But it looks by the SDS sheet that it has a very high percentage of petroleum to lanolin though, roughly 80/20. I would think that it might not be so good for rubber? Thanks for doing the video.
The bucket info says it won't hurt rubber, but we can see. The FF will also make certain rubbers get a little soft as well.
Fluid Film also shows a high petroleum percentage. this is right from the Fluid Film SDS : Refined petroleum oil, hydrotreated heavy paraffinic 50-90%
I'd like to see it tested against NHOU, that's what we use in New England for rust, it creeps into place really well!
I'm in Maine using Fluid film. I don't use nhou
What’s NHOU? please avoid acronyms for the rest of us, thanks.
@@louisperich6678New Hampshire oil undercoating
Great vid and great idea for the pump! Did you use one for the Surface Shield or is it not worth it? I was using a solo cup and pouring that into a gallon milk jug with the bottom cut off into my sprayer bottles. Worked ok, but a pump seems a lot cleaner.
I didn't use the pump because I did just pour it in the gun with a funnel. If I was doing a whole bucket I'd set up a pump.
Saw an expirament where a guy took 2 metal plates on a frame. Both were fine after 2 yrs.
This is good stuff
ive used both products and much prefer the PB surface Shield, it sticks just like fluid film and doesnt drip much, but it sprays,covers and flows alot better even when ambient temp is cold, (ive had to warm up fluid film in a presto pot to get it to spray decent when cold out) also the PB does not stink like fluid film. it is a bit more expensive, but i was able to get a good price on it when O'reilys had a 20% coupon code online. it is also available in aerosol cans
I like how it sprays too. I use FF because I can get it locally, but am impressed with the SS.
wow good call... i'll have to keep my eyes open for a code. I bought a gallon on amazon and it's gone up since.
@@g.fortin3228 right now there is a 20% code if you order over $150 - just order 3 of the 1 gallon pails.
@@volks-jager thanks :- )
Fluid film is in spray cans as well
woolwax WW HV will last indefinitely... very resistant to heavy roadwash ... over 3yrs and no need to reapply in the wheelhouse area. but it does develop a big layer of dirt on the top
But how do you really clean the underside of your Midwest vehicle before applying? Never seems to be really clean, even after spraying soap and water.
Just wash it off and spray it. These products mix with dirt and turn into a film of grundge that is impervious to salt. The best thing to do is spray a new vehicle before it sees its first winter.
Nice! I have always used Fluid Film but I'll keep Service Shield in mind.
I think it might flow inside a bit better.
@@QuickSpeedShop Yeah, I kinda figured.
I’d love to see a follow up of what held on better.
If I spray the vehicle for my friend again this year maybe.
For some reason Surface Shield is same price as Fluid Film in aerosol cans but in one gallon or 5 it is more then double the price. Look forward to the update comparison video and opinion if the Surface Shield is worth the extra money?
it is a new product so there is some gouging going on due to it not being as widely available. hopefully it will come down soon. i got my Surface Sheild from O'reily auto parts in 1 gallon pails when they had a 20% online coupon so it was $60 a gallon
I guess because ss is 50% propellant and ff do not have any.
True, I haven’t found it that much cheaper in gallon form. 5 gallons and spray cans seem to be closer in price to FF. From what I have heard and seen, surface shield appears to be competitive or better than fluid film. I’ll try it on my rusty Toyota and see if it can even slow that down a bit.. but not sure I want to buy more than a gallon..
I found the same thing. The gallon pails are very expensive! People are having massive issues with the cans not wanting to spray though.
This time around I did the right thing. I put fluid film on the underbody of my Camry. They had 1 gallon pails at rural king for $40 which was hard to beat in any form especially readily available without paying shipping.
Previously I used Krown and was very surprised how well it stayed in place during the winter of '19 to '20.
This is what kept me from purchasing the gallon and I stuck with FF. I'm not paying double for the same amount.
Forgot to ask which FF is it? AR or NAS? Thanks in advance greetings from Germany
I'm not sure which formula it is. It's the one they sell in retail stores.
You should keep in mind that the right fender well will always catch more water because of the incline of the street to get the rain away faster, so the right fender well will wash off faster that in mind I would do a comparison in a crisscross pattern RF Fluid Film but RL too. Greets from Germany
Road salt from oncoming traffic.
Depending on which side of the road, you drive on.
Your link for the gun takes me to a clothing store.
Kellsportproducts.com
Do you have to use any caution around the serpentine belt?
You don't want to get it on the belt, brakes, or exhaust.
@@QuickSpeedShop ok thanks
what type of air compressor do you recommend to use at home?
I use a 5 hp, 90 gallon unit.
I tried them both, they both stay liquid and wash off far to easily... I eventually used CRC 06026 Corrosion Inhibitor to undercoat my truck, it is an industrial wax that thoroughly dries and won't wash off anytime soon. I understand it is cosmoline based.
I needed to remove it from some areas that I accidentally oversprayed... mineral spirits liquified it but did not remove it, it dried hard again, I had to use acetone to get it off... pretty resilient stuff.
The CRC will fail you and your truck, FF and Blaster creep and self repair. No creep, no work.
@@ptrazz11 Yeah it is my experience too. Google "10 year of using cold galvanizing compound" and read a few last posts.
Surface shield doesn’t wash off… 😂
@@ptrazz11 Cosmoline (CRC hd etc) dry and crack at top of paint when paint crack.
I will try surface shield on a new suv. How much you use on a vehicle…one gallon? Do you cover the exhaust? Thanks
About 3 quarts really covers a full size vehicle well. Don't spray it on the exhaust or brakes
@@QuickSpeedShop awesome thanks for the reply. I guess I’ll have to buy the 5 gallons to do my 3 cars.
@@QuickSpeedShop do you apply it on September…closer to Winter?
I'd do it before it starts to get cool. Sept or Oct.
@@QuickSpeedShop what spray gun you recommend? I was checking the woolwax pro for $90
Surface shield is the rust King
Can you spray these products on the whole exhaust system?
No, it will melt off. It's for the body and frame to prevent rust.
Thanks for the Vid, unfortunately we cant get this stuff in Canada yet
Princess Auto sells the spray cans
Is it any different than the old Armor All?
You mean the vinyl cleaner?
@@QuickSpeedShop I seem to remember Armor All making a substance for metal too, but it’s been years not really sure. So many products out there
I don't know if they had one or not. Fluid Film has been on the market for years, Surface Shield is new in the last year or two.
Do these products contaminate brake pads?
You can't spray it on the brakes
Hey this is Nyomie can I spray my rotors with that ?
No, can't put it on the brakes. Just for sheet metal body parts.
If you live where they salt the roads make sure to buy coated rotors!
Hey buddy !!!
That Surface shield in thethe pail looks like low viscosity Fluid Film.
They are both lanolin, but the SS has some petroleum distolate which I think makes it thinner
@@QuickSpeedShop I was mistaken, Fluid Film has different blends. However, Woolwax, has a low viscosity product. I use their regular Woolwax in black and usually spot treat at every oil change or anytime I roll around under my pickup. Every winter the rockers, doors and fender wells get a fresh coating of Woolwax and Fluid Film. I’m getting ready to do 2 more cars mid October
Surface shield is available at some Harbor Freight Tools.
On sale right now, $6.99 a can
I was ready to switch to Surface Shield bc I've seen tests that shows it lasts longer....but then I saw the price vs FF. You can purchase 2-gals of FF for the same price of 1-gal of SS. I'd still re-coat either product once a season so it doesn't make sense to buy SS. Fluid Film has kept the bottom of my truck rust free so why switch?
Yeah, I know it's more money
I just sprayed it because my friend bought it. I think it probably does a better job than FF, but the extra $100 is hard to take.
Does the Surface Shield smell like the Fluid Film? I have to say, the Fluid Film smells bad for a couple weeks after you apply it?
They both have an odor, but it goes away.
did my jeep with surface shield last fall. all this summer once it got hot it's persistently dripped off into my drive after a drive. and it doesn't seem to have held up over the year . it's 11 months now. back to fluid film for me. i don't need drips all year. also the surface shield smelled bad for weeks after the application. fluid film usually dies off in days
Thanks for the advice
I sure hope this doesn't happen to me. I just sprayed my SUV with SS and have 3.5 gallons left from the bucket. I notice it does tend to thin out in the sun but I am hoping it will not drip after the major runs have come off.
I have the same VGG hat lol
The hood on that Pilot is aluminum, isn't it?
I don't know. I spray every body panel
Aluminum still corrodes, just takes longer...
mix graphite powder in to FF to turn it black , doesn't take much , and thats all they put in it and charge ya way more for it
Now available from Princess Auto
anybody compared FF Nas vs FF liquid ar ?
Is "liquidie" really a word ?
You betchya
You understood what he was saying so yes.
I used to work for IDOT in Illinois. We put down so much salt it destroys everything. I use Fluid Film but use whatever you want. I just purchased a 1973 Chevy K10 from Montana that's virtually rust free. I sprayed 5 coats of SPI Epoxy primer on the frame and underside and then just recently hit it hard with fluid film. My local body shop man told me to spray oil in the doors and rockers/cab corners and inside up over your wheel wells. Never put anything on it other than like Epoxy primer that I painted it with that won't wash off. Some products stick you don't want that. Good luck in the salt!!
I found that FF soaks into flat paint great. I paint flat paint on stuff then FF over it.
@@QuickSpeedShop Here we have a local FF representative, and they sell something called Perma Film - the stuff is dry to the touch, supposedly elastic underneath, and it works together with FF (i.e. you can paint it on stuff soaked with FF). Seems pretty tough. Bit more expensive than FF.
Liquidy-er
Surface Shield just looks like very diluted lanolin to me.
NH Undercoating is better then both of them put together........
This guy is a messy hack of an operator. I would never indiscriminately spray someones vehicle in the manner he did. Spraying under the hood in that hectic/sloppy manner said it all. Oh, a proper mixer for a drill works MUCH better at actually mixing things. They are only a few bucks. Wall plaster mixers work best, imo. Start there.
Hey, guess what gets everywhere including under the hood? Road spray and salt! I coat everything to keep it from rusting, including door jambs and under the hood. No one has complained about too much FF. They want to protect the car they paid $30-40-50k for from rust. I spray everything except the engine, exhaust, and brakes. You call it sloppy, I call it thorough!
@@QuickSpeedShopsome people! 🤦🏽♂️☝🏽