Are cast-iron vises secretly terrible?
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- Cast-iron vises are convenient and popular, but there might be some much better options.
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As someone that has been an auto mechanic and comes from a long line of them I can say he's right. It's worse than being raised by wolves.
I died at that line 😂😂😂
Raised by hyenas maybe?
@@CitizenAyellowblue I have a friend raised by hyenas. There were 3 of them and one was very sassy. The other 2 kinda stupid :)
And have you noticed that when mechanics meet - outside of work like in a social setting - the conversation only centres on..........yes, cars and nuts and bolts.!!
@@mohabatkhanmalak1161 Can confirm! It does make it really easy to pick a topic to talk about though. ; ]
“You cannot make a cast iron plane, I would’ve done it by now”😂 made me laugh out loud bud. Thanks Rex.
Hold my coat. Don't drink my beer. [Rolls up sleeves] ;)
And you suspect that it wasn't for lack of trying.
I maybe have considered doing some aluminum casting though!
I've watched vids of metal casting at home, soo...... I triple dog dare you!🤔
@@CelestialLites Just was gonna say this. He can, he just isn't a blacksmith or a metal caster.
You... have a memory of CDs that don't match mine. The improvement in audio quality over cassettes and albums was significant and easily noticeable. It brought in track selectability which was missing from tapes (though present in 8 tracks and records). The digital signal didn't degrade like tapes, and the CD player didn't eat your CD, unceremoniously unspooling the sectors. In a pre-internet age, CDs represented a major level up for music lovers.
I still have my portable Sony CD player and a Sony home stereo system that was purchased 27 years ago. it consists of a record player, double cassette deck, tuner/radio, and a 100 disc CD player. They all still work perfectly with maintenance every 2 years, but I will say that it still is a pain to have to flip a record over to play the other side, and the same with the cassettes. The CDs were a major upgrade for me since they could hold way more music than a record, or a cassette. The records I have, only hold an average of 5 songs per side. The cassettes could hold 6 to 8 songs per side depending on the length of the song, but the CDs could hold 20 or more songs. The MP3 players hold a lot more, but I still have to run them through my stereo using an audio jack connector. There are no USB ports on a system that old, but I keep it around because the sound output is for me, excellent compared to many of the modern tinny-sounding home systems.
Yep. The first years of CD, it was certainly true that they were a premium product sold at premium prices, but when they started to really take off in the 90s it just wasn’t true any more. And the unreliability is certainly not true either, other than a few very early releases from 82-3 with production defects. I can drop a cd on concrete and even swirl it around some and it’ll probably still play. Don’t try that with vinyl.
As an audiophile for almost 40 years, I have to disagree (with You, but partly with Rex, too). As always, it depends. Depends on the quality of your equipment. I have very high end stuff for all formats. If one uses a really top-notch cassette deck as a Nakamichi Dragon or a Tandberg 3014 (that's the one I've got), it sounds better than most CD players. Of course, it cost $ 3000.- in 1981. If one has a real good CD player, say from Linn or Naim or so, that is better than any cassette deck. But a top cassette deck does not let a tape degrade (only the general degradation over time, but I have cassettes which are 40 years old and still sound fine). Reel-to-reel tapes can survive at least over 60 years, if one handles them correctly. But the cream-of-the art are vinl records. They last a 100 years. Even commercially pressed CDs begin to degrade after 30 years, if they were burnt on a CD-writer, often much earlier.
And NO CD player can ever reach the sound quality of a good turntable - as long as you spend the necessary $ 2000 * on it (as my Linn LP 12, which is unfortunately a bit more expensive. I haven't got it's very least stage, which would be $ 20000,. but my $ 12000-version beats each and every CD player, even those of the $ 50000.-+ range.). And a good reel-to-reel tape machine can be even better. The problem about them is that they are a) huge (weight 60 kgs and more), b) have to be maintenanced regularly and c) were awfully expensive in those days (around $ 50-80'000). But you can pick them up rather "cheap" now for less than $ 12'000.-
Of course, this is the opinion of an incurable HiFi-addict...
@@muxmurki1497 Sure sure - of course. And just the same as any other audiofool (or rather audiotard) - allergic to reality , tests and facts.
Not. It is actually not even possible to have a better sound quality than a CD - that has been proven nearly 100 years ago - long before the spread of digital audio, electronics as we know them and even transistors.
So yah loudmouth moron - just shut up with your lies.
@@muxmurki1497 The problems are that most people wouldn't have the top-end equipment. The experience of the vast majority of the population was that CDs were king, vinyl were duke, and cassettes were the brutish-but-effective earl that served his purpose, but wasn't invited to the fancy parties.
In my experience, growing up in the late 80s and early 90s, every time you played your tape, you were taking its life in your hands. Albums were something that my uncle's music was on (fortunately, that was some of my favorite music, so I spent quite a long time listening to the turntable). CDs were game changers that brought a step increase in quality and convenience... as long as you were stationary. When non-skip technology became a thing, they became the only choice.
People like me didn't switch to CD's just because of marketing. Vinyl was horrible to use, and we couldn't be happier to get rid of it. You had to spray the record to get the dust off every time, there were scratches and pops no matter how much you took care of it, and the needles wore out. CD's gave perfect sound. I can't think of any technology I was more eager to switch from, except for VHS.
You didn't have to flip it, You could have a song as long as 74 minutes. When it came time to go to MP3, you could rip it perfectly. I've recorded some vinyl to MP3s and you want to spend some time filtering the pops out.
CDs have technical specs that are orders of magnitude better than vinyl!
@@TomBuskey MP3s are compressed with a lossy format, but they sound good enough most of the time. MP3s are portable; I buy CDs when possible and rip them to play in my car or over headphones at work. MP3s are cheaper to produce and purchase than physical media; this makes sites like Bandcamp possible. So I do agree that MP3s are "better" than CDs or records in those two ways.
Agree 100%. And next wave, which is seeing the demise of cds is streaming. Also good enough for most people’s listening. Hello spotify.
I went through that shift too. I still have a 1984 Musics for Nations Metallica CD. CDs were great. They had better sound quality, and didn't scratch. The most important is that vinyl records wore out every time you played them. Sometimes those extra pops became part of the music you listened to. There is a scratch in Iron Maidens "The Loneliness of the Long Distance Runner" that is literally part of the song to me now.
But the record ("CD") companies ruined them by overpricing them in the 90's and the loudness wars later.
Sorry rex but the whole "CD wasn't that good" point is pretty wrong. The main selling point was the huge increase in data density. Back then, the guy in charge wanted to have enough space on a CD to hold some classical symphony completly (I believe it was 72 minutes of music) without needing to switch tapes or change sides. Also what others already mentioned too was that Vinyl would be damaged over time from playing it, while a CD does not. CDs only get bad with bad handling(just as vinyl) and over time (which is roughly 30 years. the first CD ever burned still works) And since the use case between CD and Vinyl was the same, CD just had more advantages compared to vinyl without introducing other disadvantages.
Yeah its the worst comparison I've ever heard.
Not to mention that as a DJ, you could carry a huge library of music in a "book" style carry case the size of a single Encyclopedia Britannica volume and almost literally never run out of songs to play.
I DJed a few house parties for about 8~10 hours and was never forced to play the same track twice, unless requested to.
"CD were worse than vinyl because you couldn't play CDs in the car."
WTF?
Also in decades of handling CDs I've damaged maybe two.
I have never heard of a pressed CD just "going bad", every CD I have ever bought since they were introduced, unless I damaged it by storing it improperly or dropping it, still works perfectly. We have a box of AOL CDs sitting in the garage that won't go away no matter how hard we try.
@@Hawk013 the thing is, when the CD was invented they predicted it will stay intact for about 25 years. and last thing I know about this is that after 30 years they tried to read from the first CD they burned and it worked. so their prediction was a bit to wrong. but in a good way^^
I'm very old and have made most of my living as a woodworker. I really like using manual tools. Much of that is because I have a great work bench. I think it was made right after WW2. The manufacturer's tag is still on it, German. Made of beech, traditional wooden vices with metal guides and screws. 2 square steel bench dogs. The long tail vice has a series of holes for the dog, the rest of the length of the bench has holes for the other dog. I added holes in the tail vice, end leg to support wide, long, panels to work on their edges. There is a recessed tray along the back edge and a drawer. An almost ideal bench for furniture making. My production shop is almost all CNC so I can make an actual living.
LOL comparing Vinyl to CDs:
"CD players are not portable and don't work in cars."
Turntables did? 🤣😉
I read that too. What the heck was a walkman cassette or disc didnt they jog with them tied to their hips hey plz
dont expect me to know my jogging days ended when my phys. Ed. Days did 50 yrs ago
But turntables no way with them bias ply tires heck I've watched my stylus on my Phillip's 212 take off when the party took off.love your insite
@@larryh.4629 The first discman did skip a lot. Rex also skipped the bit where vinyl records get damaged every time you play them where as CD's do not. digital encoding means that as long as a CD remain readable the quality of the sound will remain unchanged. And early CD's actually had very good sound quality, later CD's not as much due to a phenomena called the loudness war.
@@larryh.4629 Early CD players, even portable ones, would skip at the slightest movement. This was eventually remedied by a buffer; a bit of solid state flash memory (essentially the same thing as a USB stick) in the device. This would read the data on the CD ahead of time and store a sort segment of it, if the player was nudged and the CD skipped, the player would read the flash memory instead until the skipping stopped.
A phonograph turntable was actually offered as a factory-installed option on some American cars. If I remember correctly, this was in the early 1960s. The option was never very popular and was not offered for long. One reason was that the needle tended to skip when the car hit a bump or made a sharp turn. This was annoying, and it could scratch the record. Also, it wasn’t long before cassette tape players for cars hit the market. Audio cassettes had their own set of problems, but that’s a subject for another day.
@@MrAwawe cool had no idea but enjoyed the insight that fix must have already been implemented by the time my cassette equipment was puking out and hard to replace grateful for that I've kept all my old stuff vinyl cassette and cd some are duplicates in another medium but they are mine jimmie Hendrix experience,cream , black oak Arkansas, j.j.cale Robin trower. Harry chapin. Nuge. Acdc.jerry jeff walker loved them all. Music is the frosting on the cake no matter how you listen to it I remember transistor radios and Dylan no regrets. Take care . L.H.
Here in Scandinavia (Norway, to be precise), you'd be hard pressed to find a workbench that deviated from the basic pattern of "shoulder vise plus tail vise". I was somewhat surprised to learn of the great variation in workbench design, because to me, the aforementioned type was the only one I knew. I was a sweet summer child..
For benches with two vices, that is. If there’s only one, it’s almost certainly a tail vice. (Google “sløydbenk”)
So, is the discussion group called The Ad-vise Squad??
(I'll show myself out...)
As long as you're a bona-fide Dad, such things are quite acceptable, otherwise, sorry, yes you will need to leave.
Man... seeing that Elvis Costello "Get Happy!" LP really made my day. Such a great record.
CD had stupid better audio quality
still do. no hiss, pop, wow, or flutter
Ya great get a nice collection of vinyl then flip the format to 8 track get set up oops cassettes the ticket what ya got a grand tied up not counting the players well guess what CD is here and so we go again aaah vinyls coming back sorta but I kept mine wonder what's next I'm sure it has already arrived but I'm an old buzzard and tech has passed me by.didnt miss much just the cash tech cost. I'm in no hurry for another innovation thanks but I'm out.
True, but at the cost of a reduced dynamic range. And the MP3s reduced that even more...And now records are making a comeback.
I doubt I could tell the difference between a proper LP player and a CD player.
@@jongustavsson5874 if you know the term LP. You are probably like me and due for a hearing check I doubt I could either by the way I went to school with a guy with same name dont live in iowa do ya?
@@jongustavsson5874 I can, but it's not significant enough for me to want to insist on one medium over another. I've had a number of friends, on the other hand, who refused to ever go digital because it was that important to them.
I'd love to see that series expanded to work holding, not just vises. I'm really new and don't need a lot now, but while I'm learning I'm planning what I'll need. Work holding is my biggest issue right now, and to see what you could come up with, especially with your focus on budget/DIY. Keep up the excellent content Rex!
Hahaha.... "I would have made one by now if it were possible." Bless you, Rex, seriously.
6:35 I remember my first CD player. It was a portable one, and I mostly could only use it at home because it skipped if you didn't hold the player perfectly still. Hold it at any angle you want, but if you moved it the CD would skip. That said, having helped friends clean melted vinyls out of the back of their cars, that had only been in there half a day, I'd say CDs had more going for them than just being smaller.
I never had to replace any vinyl, but the choice was easy anyway. CD's could be played a lot more before the quality became bad. My 30 year old CDs work fine. Can't say that for 30 year old vinyl that has actually been played. Also, the hassle with needles etc who were NOT cheap at all (diamond tips!) was something I gladly missed.
CDs also had some additional playback advantages. You could shuffle tracks, skip tracks with exact precision, repeat tracks, encode track information on the disc, and more. A CD could hold 74 minutes (later 80 and in some cases 90+ minutes later) without quality degradation while vinyl's runtime was inversely proportional to audio quality - a standard 33rpm record might give you 23 minutes a side and significantly less than that at 45. Format limitations can spur creativity, but CDs allowed for much longer continuous pieces than vinyl at a quality much greater than cassette.
Don't get me wrong, I love vinyl and play it and collect it to this day, but to say that CDs weren't that good, even early on, handwaves away a lot of what are and were real advantages of the new tech.
@@tinypyramid yeah it's not a perfect analogy. But I have been told that on a good setup with high quality printing, with mastering that is higher quality than 44.1khz 16bit digital, vinyl can have higher sound quality. It usually isn't, esp since vinyl is mostly done for the collectability and t h e a e s t h e t i c these days (listen to how "warm" it sounds, and those popping artifacts add "character"! "what do you mean you have to wash your vinyl and clean the turntable? what do you mean by 'anti-static' brush? what do you mean I can't just stack them vertically?" lol), and the masters given to the vinyl printers I hear are often just the CD mixdown, but in theory it can be superior to CD and in a few rare cases it is.
@@tinypyramid It took a while to get CDs to sound better than vinyl, in part because sound engineers had spent decades developing the specific techniques to get good sound on vinyl, and at first they tried to just do the same things with CDs and it didn't work. After a few years, techniques for dealing with the specific audio properties of CDs were developed and the sound quality got much better.
They could also contain files! It was cool to buy a CD, then put it in the computer and see that the band had added a few video clips. It was fun to play vinyls at the wrong speed tho. 44 rpm at 33, or vice-versa.
Racking: not a bug but a feature xD
Edit Re: CD they had a superior sound quality with a wider frequency range and sufficient bit depth to sample and reproduce analogue sound. Your 'Is newer actually worse?' argument could be made about .wav vs .mp3. But for me the take home message is this: there is not better or worse per se, just pros and cons you have to weigh up when deciding what your use case demands.
Love the idea of vise squad, looking forward to it :D
Right! It's also not often true that CDs degrade over time. High quality discs last an incredibly long time, whereas vinyl wears out a little more with every play.
You're right, there was less distortion on CD quality sound. It was more crisp and clear and dynamic. I clearly remember being blow away by CDs when I got my first Denon home CD player.
@@mangomonad Sort of... Factory pressed CDs will usually last forever, so long as the label isn't damaged, but they can delaminate if submerged in water or something similar. Blank, burnable disks on the other hand can delaminate just from humidity in the air, and even when stored in a controlled environment can suffer data loss after about 20 years. Every storage format has it's pros and cons, but over all, the CD/DVD is a pretty robust format.
Love your work, Rex! That “previous experience as a teacher” you mention in a previous video really shines through. Thanks for teaching us budget-limited mortals the joys and benefits of hand tool woodworking! And thanks for the shoutout to my hero and The Guru of Hand Tools, Paul Sellers... a true master craftsman, if ever one there was.
although CDs are obsolete now, back in the day it was a huge improvement over LPs and cassettes, i was there rex, i was there 3000 years ago.
Like how the cassette was amazing over the 8 track. I hated the loud clunking sound trying to skip to songs, never knowing where you’d end up with those buttons. I would just keep pressing those big clunking buttons until I got somewhere close.
My moms Thunderbird had a 8 track radio. Thank god for the cassette/8 track adapter!
My Lord Elrond!
I can't wait for this series! This is awesome!
Hey Rex
Don't forget the Humble Drill Press Vice.
Absolutely indispensable then you need to stack small bits and drill precisely.
Rex, loving your videos, the more I watch the more I like how unique your content is and your focus on functional woodworking vise (ahem) absolute perfection. Please keep it up. I watch a lot of mr sellers and matt estlea, and find your videos a refreshing and different take on the craft.
That's just the way to go, old stuff is interesting, really looking forward to the vices your gonna make
Yes! I'm excited about the vises! Cant Wait! You just keep getting better and better Rex!
Part of the reason your Patreon members will be so great will be because of you. The way you conduct yourself in your videos is great, you're very encouraging and you try to frame things in a way that allows anyone to get involved or have a go. The sort of people who will be willing to be your Patrons are the sort of people who are going to like that kind of behaviour.
You have a great Patreon community because that community is built as a reflection of your behaviour in the videos you produce. Something you should be very proud of.
I have an idea for a project. What if you built something small like a jewelry box and then using the same techniques build day a blanket chest.
I don't think the projects matter so much as being able to see its all about the techniques.
What do you think? I also think such a project would go wonderful with your woodworking for humans seris.
Great video, great series. I've watched some of your stuff in the past, but this one convinced me to subscribe. Thanks!
Incredible series idea! Stoked to see it evolve as I am new to the channel!
Another great program. As a stringed instrument bowmaker, I end up having to make lots of my own tools, because they don't exist otherwise.
One suggestion: if you often need a spacer for one end of the vise when clamping, it's handy to have a variable thickness one. That's easily made with as many rectangular leaves as necessary of hardwood, about 1/8" thick, pierced and held together with a bolt running through them. It's then child's play to push the required number of leaves into the gap and tighten without wracking.
Looking forward to the new series, can't wait to see what you come up with!
Hey Rex, I loved this video, really clever and funny, with a lot of information, I acan't wait for the next episode. Keep the great work.
I was so ready to buy a cast iron vice for my new bench I'm building, and now you've put this idea in my head! I can feel myself slipping down the vice rabbit hole!
The question is :how deep will you fall? Knowing rex i'd guess pretty deep.
Your cast iron vice has a massive opening. Change the outside jaw to a wide (50mm or so depends on the dogs. ) thick plank with dog holes in it. That actually applies to both vices. It let's you put dogs in and clamp boards against dogs in the table. A super simple alteration to the vice
Looking forward to this series. Sounds awesome!
I really like the comment about the discussion board, i recently joined, and have been part of lost of board on the internet and this is by far the friendliest and most helpful one I have participated in yet.
Looking forward to this series!
This sounds like such an exciting series! Can’t wait 😊
I love this idea, Rex. I'm excited to see the series!
And I don't know if you're making plans for them, but if you do, I'll buy the whole set. Your leg vise is one of the few I didn't buy yet.
Thanks Rex, that was entertaining! I really appreciate your output. All the best
I like where you're going with this Rex. thumbs up
Excellent content, Mr. Kruger! I am sold!
Awesome. Super excited for this series. Vises are fascinating!
Thank you for offering such well contructed opinions, they give me courage to buy or make stuff to fit my needs, and not just believe what someone trying to sell something says. Looking forward the series!
Looking forward to the series!
That is a really nice idea for a series. I will look forward to it.
Here in germany we stil use traditional beechwood workbenches with wooden face and tail vises simular to the drawings you showed in you Video... in my aye this is the perfect workbench layout... cheers from Germany
Cheers from USA! Can you lay your hands on a zinkenschlage?
Looking forward to your vice squad videos. I have several different styles of vice hardware that I have not had the time to utilize ( really afraid to mess them up!)
So thank you in advance for the instructions and the courage to install them.
Will
LOVE UR VIDS! I have been watching some of your vids as I do woodwork in school and ur vids helped me know how to use things like planes!
In Sweden it's practically impossible to get a cast iron vise, the Scandinavian workbench never got replaced. But today it is few that know how to make a wood screw or the corresponding female threads. This is partly because good wood doesn't decay as easily as iron screws, so the need for new wooden screws are marginal.
I love your naming ideas.
Shouting out patrons, that's awesome. youre running a great channel
You’re the man Rex, thanks for all the research you do for us!
can see this guy having his own tv show he's that good
Probably your best video yet. Great Job.
As always, Rex, thanks for an informative and thought provoking video.
I’m halfway through building a workbench and was just working out how I was going to install my 1930s Record QR vise. I’m the third owner of this vise from new and I’ve never considered a need to replace it. Your video has got me thinking really hard about a leg vice.
My workspace is really, really small. I know exactly how much real estate my Record will take up. The leg vice really, really calls to me. I wish I had space to try both.
I’m going to build in a leg vise on the basis that I know the strengths of the iron face vise.
Thanks, and keep up the great work!
YES REX!!!! I've been watching the internet for a second hand bench vice for years now and I'm sick of waiting. You may just yet solve all my problems!
Woodworking vises are a bit rare to come across to buy. There are definitely bargain solutions to making them.
I loved the editing on this episode. Looking forward to Vice Squad!
I kind of want to paint a picture about some of these metal tools:
Imagine you are some punk 14-year-old kid who remembers watching snippets of This Old House or The New Yankee Workshop with his dad. All of the crazy tools they use are intimidating, but you find creating things out of wood to be pretty interesting. Could you ever make something like that? It must take years of experience, thousands of dollars in tools! Over time with a birthday gift or two, you get a small set of tools (plus whatever dad had lying around): a drill, some screwdrivers, a hammer, a couple of saws (including the worst jigsaw in existence), and some sandpaper. You are just starting out and you're nervous about messing up and wasting time and money, but you manage to make a cool wooden sword and a pickleball paddle with these tools. This is amazing! You've just created something out of wood! That feeling inspires you. You grow up and start making "more grownup" items, like a replacement step for the porch and a few blackboards (with a crazy miter box plastic mess for the border!). Each time you learn a little bit more. You watch a youtube video here and there for guidance and you see some crazy things. What's this vise? What are those hand planes? There are like 50 million different types of saws? It's all very overwhelming. But after a couple minutes of research, here is a vise, made out of cast iron, and a hand plane to match, ready for purchase and installation, sometimes for much less cost than their wooden counterparts (not always, but sometimes). After purchasing just these two bits of equipment, suddenly a whole new world is opened to you. Hand tools, man! You're carving objects into existence! Creation aided by a little learning, and a lot of hands-on experience (with little errors along the way of course)! You then start looking into the history. Other types of vises for different types of work, holdfasts, bench dogs: This is the way to make an enthusiast.
Now tell me, if you had to make your own tools at the beginning, starting with a vise, a hand plane, a mallet, whatever, would you be gripped as a punk 14-year-old?
I submit that I wouldn't be a woodworking enthusiast today without some starter equipment that was ready to go. A lowered barrier to entry gave me an amazing hobby without slamming me against a near-impossible barrier to entry. That's what this cast-iron equipment means to the hobby. Of course there are better alternatives which I plan on building, but I wouldn't even be here considering those better alternatives without first having a cast-iron vise to help me into woodworking.
It's like people getting into music more since now they can play a CD off a small walkman on headphones. Do a little bit of research: "oh, so you might get a little more depth of sound out of vinyl? Sounds interesting, let me explore that." That person wouldn't be getting into vinyl now without first having CDs.
I'm very much looking forward to this series. Being in the UK I've seen a LOT of different vices via National Trust locations and suchlike. I'm always keen to see how things used to be done and if it's better than what's commercially available in any way. As indeed you've found.
Wow, thanks for the shout-out at the end there, Rex! Your videos really inspired me and now I can't wait to get down into the basement whenever I got a chance!
This video got me questioning my choice of cast-iron face and end vises though...I have had this issue with racking for sure. Oh well.
going to start building a roman low work bench soon. I have it planned out taking some of the work holding ideas from your jointers bench. I am also trying to figure out how to make a shave horse attachment. thank you for making wood work easy to get started in.
My bench was one of my first big projects. Ive been woodworking for 2 and a half years. And I did it with no fasteners, and hand tools. Laminated 2×6 split top (kinda) with an end vice and a leg vise. Ive been offered $2500 for one. Lol
Theta must be tempting. Think of the tools and timber you can get for $2500 .
This was an especially great episode and I am very excited about the “vise squad” series!
Fantastic video as always! Thanks, Rex.
I am very excited to start seeing the new video series
Love my old Pattern Maker's vice. You can set it for an angled piece really easily and you can tilt it.
Lucky dude. That’s your retirement nest egg, too.
Those metal woodwork vices are best mounted in a matched pair along the side of a really sturdy bench.
Same goes for metal work vices as well.
Interesting...
@Flat Bastard Engineering Channel Yes it does. Really, really useful for holding long pieces of metal like a six foot length of scaffolding. or long lengths of angle iron.
@@donaldasayersclearly, you have been making it work all along!
I’m looking forward to this series 👍🏻👍🏻
I'm glad you're making a series on this! As a newbie with a bench that came with my house and a series of clamps, I've done a bunch of strange workholding. I bought Christopher Schwarz's workbench book, went through all the workbench chores... And decided the joiner's bench looks WAY easier to make than anything in that book xD. While lumber is still pricey, i think I'm going to make that low Roman bench of yours. It looks incredibly simple to make with VERY little lumber, perfect for a new woodworker.
Looking forward to more Vise Squad!
This will be a fun series.
You can never have too many vices. Or vises.
How do you spell the plural form of vise?
@@oliverdelica2289 I stand by my spelling. And by my play on words.
@@oliverdelica2289 "Vise" is the plural. The singular is "vouse".
Putting the leg vise at an angle like that is brilliant!
Love the history lessons you provide!
this is going to be an awesome series
I’m only a teenager, so I am relatively new to woodworking. I’ve done for like 2 years. A lot of my family LOVE cars, but I’m not with them. I love doing woodworking instead. Anyway, I didn’t have enough money to buy a vice, so I made one. I made it with two 3/4 bolts and made it mostly of red oak( it’s what I had). 2 weeks after, the first vice you made came out. I was disappointed at first but I realized it was good. I modeled it after Moxon vices. It has been working really well for me and it fits with my cheap old bench. Just wanted to say that, have a nice day bro
Brilliant, Vice Squad.. Rex you are the man.
This will be awesome Rex!!!
Great video. Love to see the vice series. We all need (have) our vices. I am still using the trusty mechanic's vice. Your vice series sounds overly ambitious, foolhardy, and the best damned thing I could watch on a video screen. Hopefully you get a boost in Patreons from the series. I would love to know what other vice options are out there and I will stay tuned.
Rex, the Viceroy of Vice Squad, ready to clamp down on... Well, I'm looking forward to seeing that 😉
Rex kinda has to be King, no?
I'm excited for this new series of vises.
Sweet Im looking forward to the woodworking vise series. Thank you.
As a german carpenter, i never knew about these strange cast-iron vises. me and my whole family are used to "Ulmia" Nr.2 or Nr.4 Carpenter benches with integrated vises.
Lars, best greetings from the USA! Are you able to obtain a zinkenschlage?
Another awesome video Rex!
Here’s an idea I thought of for future video topics:
Simple projects using a limited amount of tools, similar to the three tool stool.
One project I thought of was a simple lidded box using only a saw, chisel and maybe a hammer and nails.
An organizer caddy with similar tools...
Or maybe incorporate screws and the hand brace...leading to a hinged and latched chest...
Just some thoughts on topics to continue the simplicity that attracted me to your videos.
Thanks!
I'm looking forward to this series.
Looking forward to the vice videos! I salvaged a Morgan cast iron vice from the scrap yard 25 years ago, I just got around to building a dedicated wood working bench to bolt it too. I am an auto mechanic by trade. I'm looking forward to enjoying wood working as a hobby.
I regret that I have but one Like to give to this.
I inherited a cast iron Columbian 3CD vise (not quick release) and the hardware for a screw vise from a dear friend. I FINALLY attached the cast iron vise to my industrial-solid-core-door workbench top and it has measurably improved my life. Your leg vise is a candidate for my screw hardware (likewise cast iron and probably European). Why did it take me so long to find your channel??
Great video, Rex! Which reminds me I need to build a shoulder vice and also need to go and check out the forums :D
I’m pretty sure with a few buckets of sand, a really hot fire and a load of scrap iron you could make a cast iron plane in your back yard.
Come on Rex, you should get on that.
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Yeah -yeah! Fire! Fire! Heh-heh Fire!
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Throw in a surface grinder, a shaper, a granite reference block and one of those five axis waterjet cutters they have over at fireball tools, and you'd be all set.
Fabricating the same design out of welded together pieces of steel is entirely possible, but I gather that Rex would prefer to work in wood.
I’d watch that video
Great video, thankyou for sharing. I can’t wait for Vice Squad.
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entergagement!
As someone who's day job is being being a machinist, this hits different.
right when i need to make myself a vise for my workbenche, what a coincidence!
you bet i'll be watching those vise vids, i need more ideas to make my own design
Wonderful, enjoyed the story. And I think your new series about vices of old would be great, looking forward to watching them. By the way, that backdrop with all the pipes running behind and above you makes the shop look like a sci-fi Startrek setting.......lol
Great idea for a series. The Swedish Sojberg style that Rob Cosman uses has some points of interest. When I eventually get around to building a bench (currently scheduled for 11 minutes to never 🙄) I will possibly go for just a crochet and holdfasts, with a Moxon available as a bench on bench to do dovetails and detailed work.
Rex, I’m surprised you didn’t mention using wedges in connection with these work-holding methods. They help with holding differently-shaped pieces and pieces that are not quite the same size as, say, the distance between holdfasts or bench dogs.
The vice series is a great idea. I'll look forward to it.
this is one of your best videos yet
Looking REALLY forward to this series, it's almost like the historical reenactment stuff, but more practical? Other series on whatever you care to research would also be really cool! Measuring/layout equipment, jigs, planes/saws/drills, joinery, etc! It would be really neat to learn crazy old woodworking/cabinet making techniques
Your channel is even better now, 11/10
Really looking forward to your new series. I too love my leg vise and wish I had used wider angled stock like you did. The other difference that I use often is I bored dog holes in the top of the chop and parallel dog holes in the bench. Oh! I have to say the Kebiki has truly been a game changer, trying to decide if a morticing version is in my future attempts. Thanks Rex.
Great video. The advantage of a cd was the ability to choose your track and precisely go to a specific time in the track with the press of a button.
What a terrific idea....can't wait
Good Call. Fireball tools killed it with his "vice test" video. I think this vice series will have tons of views.