An Unexpected Development... - MLB The Show 24 Franchise (Year 1) Ep.5
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- čas přidán 17. 04. 2024
- Today we begin the MLB The Show 24 Franchise with the St. Louis Cardinals. The Cards are far from being one of the weakest teams in baseball, but they do have one of the most uncertain future. This is an experienced team and one of the oldest in the MLB. Every starting pitcher is at least 32 years old. The best two position players have over 10 years experience. The Cardinals will have to rebuild this organization regardless of their success in the near future. I'm excited to work on restoring this franchise to a championship standard that they have not seen in the last decade.
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I think the pace you are going at is perfect. Why anyone would want to skip past a winning season is beyond me. Throw in the fact that there are some young prospects already called up to watch as well, and it makes sense to pay attention more.
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I personally think ppl that want a quick rebuild where we skip seasons just don’t want this kinda content and that’s fine. But this is a good pace. I’m just sad that you came in with the preconceived notion that they are bad and didn’t give them a chance. Trying to win it all the first year or at least compete then seeing the fallout after would have been an interesting change of pace. But to trade the mvp front runner in the first 20 games of the season is just insane. Imagine how this team would be doing with goldy. The team was built as a veteran core to compete this year and I wish you would have honored thag
The team wasn't exactly competing in those first 20 games and to try saying this team was built to compete is kind of laughable looking at the rotation. It's highly unlikely even with adding another good rotation arm that this team could make a playoff run. I'm not saying blow it up now and unload all the veterans, it's certainly reasonable to sit on guys like Gray and Arenado for another year, but I understand why Cane would want to move Goldy early while he's hot and not risk him dropping significantly in production and overall as the season goes on.
What makes you believe that they were good? They were bad last year. Obviously they want to keep a competitive team and they traded for most of their best players so they're not going to blow it up especially when they're not going to get really good value for older players. This team is not built to compete with the Dodgers, Padres, and Braves. It makes perfect sense to trade Goldschmidt when he has the biggest possibility of diminishing as an asset because he's 39. He made a fine assessment especially considering their struggling in real life
@@jaybeer3126 completely disagree. No team would ever trade their star in the first month. No matter how bad things are going. It’s wholly unrealistic. Especially when you have a shot in a bad division to make the playoffs. Playoff revenue alone is worth keeping him, regardless of WS aspirations if we wanna talk real life. Not to mention do we thing the Dbacks were “better” than the dodgers padres and braves, maybe not but they made the series. Because they got hott at the right time. Hence why you don’t give up on the first month. If you get to June July and it’s bad sure go for it, trade the stars. But literally no team would ever do that in april
@@tylerfrancis9824 you obviously wouldn't trade your star player within the first month of the season but this is a video game where regression is crazy. You lose so much value if you wait. The team is in no man's land so it's an understandable decision.
Comparing this team to the Diamondbacks when their pitching staff isn't even in the same universe. Most of the hitters outside of the Stars are bad. You're kind of grasping at straws. The team is average at best and they don't have the necessary skills to compete on the biggest stage.
I think Lesko’s fastball pushes triple digits so maybe you could edit that
It touches 98. But he sits 93-95. You can't really represent that well in mlb the show. I'd stick with where it is
Legendary Cardinals Manger Whitey Herzog passed away this week. His 80’s teams wore the blue uniforms. His cardinals teams were built in contact, speed, and defense. Exactly what Cane is talking about. “Whitey Ball” is a cool part of baseball history.
Best baseball in the 80s and early 90s
pretty sure that they had baby blues before the 80s, it was a pretty common move in the 40s-60s I believe but I could be wrong.
I think you should power through this first year quicker.
This is always the answer. First season, especially in baseball, is a waste of time.
okay but they’re literally winning. it’s a cool development i get wanting to kick off the team building and all the main development but just enjoy the ride
Cards are a game back from winning the division, no way this year should be wasted lol
would be understandable if we were losing still
no he shouldn't, he should power through it quic oh no yeah yeah quickly no your right my bad 😅
SP Billy Murray has gone from a 65-99 potential, 49-83 overall player at the start of scouting to, at 95% scouted, an 80-96 potential, 64-80 overall player. Check on SP Steve Castilla when you look at Billy too. They were both in the East and should be 100% now. Steve was starting to fall behind Billy's ranges a little, but still looked pretty good.
the pitch release (early / late) with classic pitching has always been in the show
also even tho im a cubs fan im loving this series!
Here’s my ideal mlb franchise series pacing: 4-5 episodes of the first season because they suck, 12-14 episodes because things are looking okay, 12-14 for the next two seasons and 15-20 for the remainder of the series.
IMO, I’m happy that we’re winning but with that being said, we’re not getting any younger. I believe now is the time to trade for the best prospects that we can get. We still have a great young core but we need to sell high on our older guys.
On the topic of building high power/speed prospects up to become good players, I once had a player, Ryan Turner, with this archetype and he won MVP and multiple championships with my franchise. The kicker, he made his MLB debut at 30, but he played well until about 36 or so. Hit about .280 for his career, multiple 40hr/30sb seasons, burned bright but quick
Man, I love this game
I think the pacing so far has been fine. This is a little different compared to the A’s where they just sucked so it makes sense to push through the first season quickly. But This team could legit win the division year one and I don’t think with some of these younger guys in the lineup that should just be completely glossed over. I think keep this pace up if they keep doing well but if we start falling back then you should speed up.
I also like K/9 cause it's really easy to conceptualize but K% is the preferred strikeout stat since you could strike out 1 batter in a 1-2-3 inning vs 1 batter in an inning where you allow 2 base-runners (and face 5 total batters) where both have a K/9 of 9, but obviously going 1-2-3 for a K% of 33% is better than only striking out one of the 5 batters you faced for a K% of 20%
Love how the Show can give you a random decent season despite trading your best player away. That's baseball!
I agree but it's tough to know without context what a good percentage is. They should use adjusted + stats
The "Victory Blues" jersey (the uniforms you were asking about) came about during the 74 season for reasons I've not been able to figure out. They're closely associated with their 1982 World Series team, and they were retired in 1986
"Sonny grazes the inside edge" how long were you sitting on that? Don't lie to the people
Cane regarding it saying very late for the pitch timing. I think that's because you're not using Pitch Timing so it auto shows as very late.
Thank you. I feel like everyone is overthinking it, there is still no timing involved in classic
Oh no cane. The RBI record is 191 by Hack Wilson.
You should try a rebuild this year like you do with madden every year where it’s mostly sim heavy and watching players and keep this franchise a slower paced
I like the pace and watching you play full games it’s setting the foundation for the team
Man really appreciate the baseball announcer cadence 🤙😊
I think cane underestimated how good the cardinals could be
Think you’re crushing the pace, thanks for the content!
The RBI Record is 191 which is bananas it happened in the Dead Ball era in 1930 by Hack Wilson, Sammy Sosa holds the record since 2000 where in 2001 he had 160
Being in-form is nice, but we can't let a small stretch of games dissuade us from tearing down the team, because the team will tear itself down by way of massive regression very soon.
Love the work Cane!!
In the show (versus the CPU), the opposing batter seems to have a higher chance to hit the ball with poor pitch timing. I grind DD against rookie CPU, if you throw a good timed, middle middle 4SFB, they will still miss it. If you throw a bad timed ball they will perfect perfect much more often. If the bad pitch timing on classic really is a bug, that could be your issue, I’d figure.
I really like the episodes with a lot of gameplay
Keep these coming!!
As a massive Brandon Crawford fan, i was very happy to see him crush a Homer and win player of the game.
I wanna play franchise like you do but I don’t know how many games you sim/play or when you manually do your fast track scenarios and player development upgrades to make it more immersive loving the A’s series from last year as I binge watch
Hey Cane, I haven't seen anyone else comment this but I also found it harder pitching on classic this year. I follow your guides on settings and such. I found that on classic pitching, if you hold the pitch button the entire time of the pitchers delivery, even till it hits the catchers mitt, it seems to have a better result. Also this years CPU seems to replicate hitters, they seem to chase more pitches near the edges, but mash anything over the heart of the plate. Hope this helps!
"Gomber is looking somber"
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Duringg bryce harpers first at bat you got perfect pitch timing on the feedback so its notbalways very late.... thats all i got lol
Keep up the good work cane.
Keep this pace. Loving this series
Pulse pitching could be a happy medium, even if you get "perfect" timing with pulse it's not guaranteed to go exactly where you placed it. The pitchers control rating still plays a big part
I get the very late release everytime I play too. It must be a bug. Great job man, love the MLB series!
Longtime Cardibals fan here: not a weird move to look to play Edman at SS. He was a gold glove 2nd baseman in ‘22 and is probably a better middle infielder than an outfielder. Also, if you look to replace Arenado, Gorman actually came up as a 3rd basemen, but started playing 2nd because of Arenado.
Victor Scott won the minor league gold gloves in CF last season andddd stole like 94 bases. His speed and defense and Winn’s defense and elite arm would be awesome to see focused on for this series
Hey Cain! So the reason the pitch timing is not great on classic is because you have to hold and release the button as the pitcher does. it’s part of the reason why i’ve stayed on meter, since i’m already doing that anyways
That sounds tedious. Is that a change they did?
Just love it when it’s Sonny in Philadelphia. As it always is.
for pitching i’ve started to do pin point on legend. on classic the spot the pitch goes is just random. on pin point you atleast get to know there’s some control but it’s on the hardest level to even out pin point being easier to use
Scouting tip: The gap between max/min of potential and overall will be the difference between the potential and overall of the player
Cane making Contreras looking like an mvp candidate!!
For me I’ve noticed that stamina is a pretty good indicator of how a pitcher will do. Pitchers usually get shelled after being left out there for too long
K% is just better for telling you how many strikeouts a pitcher is really getting. Per 9 has the issue of not facing a particular number of batters per inning, so facing 3 batters and striking 1 out or facing 30 batters and striking out one nets you the same K/9, but obviously drastically different K%
the base running never ceases to amaze me
The team's turnaround since the trades is crazy. It's good to see Nolan hit a homer against the Rockies though.
Pains me as a Cubs fan to watch these but since I've loved your content for the better part of 12 years? Suffer I will haha.
If you aim for say middle in or middle away it only takes tiny miss to be in the middle of the zone so better to avoid aiming at these areas and stick to corners
You had some perfect releases with gray
Speaking of position flexiability that you wouldn't expect, Willson Contreras can play the outfield.
When you use classic pitching whatever pitch is flashing it's the one the catcher wants you to throw, which in most cases it's the best pitch..
With everything happening at the big league level, I wouldn't mind spending some time (couple of weeks to a month of in game time) focused on just the AAA level and seeing how some of these players play (and how you like playing with them)
I still really hope you take a closer look at Rick Franklin as well as possibly Bobby Rico, they looked like verrrrry interesting prospects last video. Especially Rick Franklin.
Does anyone remember Nook Logan? When cane talked about guys making a team based on there skill on the base pads that’s who I thought of. Pure speed lol
You should look at Blake Sabol on the giants. He’s a catcher and he’s the exact catcher you were describing. Really fun player
the late timing thing has been in the older games with classic pitching, i just assumed it was based on player ratings.
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I’m honestly having the opposite issue with my simming. I have far too many shutouts and every game I watch goes 5 innings without a run unless there’s an error.
I noticed that in classic there like an invisible meter if you try to double tap on it pick goes wild
There's always been a release mechanism with classic pitching. You have to time when to let the button go. It varies by throwing motion and pitch count/confidence as well
I also use classic pitching. When do you let the button go?
@@texascavaliermc It depends on their windup and confidence in the pitch. Latest you want to let it go is at the release point. I usually wait till they're coming back to from reaching back.
I like to do when it comes to position flexibility is play players out of position for for a certain amount of games, then I edit the secondary position for the player for realism purposes. In a past game I drafted a LF but was deep at a position so I developed him as a catcher , that is one of my more extreme position changes. But in mlb it does happen look at Bryce Harper he went from outfield all his career to first base for the Phillies
I do it primarily with only prospects
If you didn't know, you can hit square on Pitchers you are scouting to see the pitches they throw
The blue jerseys are dope
Chester Montano needs to come off the board asap that potential is gonna limit him to be a non factor we cannot use a third rounder on him
Powder Blue seemed to be a fad in the 70s that lots of teams picked up on whether or not they wore blue. The Twins, Braves, Cubs, Mariners, Blue Jays, Royals, Blue Jays, Phillies, White Sox, Brewers, and Cardinals all had powder blue uniforms at one point back then. Similar to how teal and purple were the colors of the 90s.
I feel like the pacing for the series is perfect right now.
you guys are crazy if you say to speed thru year one. like cane said that was kinda the plan until they started winning. they’re a game back from the division lead this is a crazy development enjoy the ride y’all. i understand wanting to get to the meat and potatoes of the series but it’s still about telling a story and this is a pretty cool chapter. we love it cane can’t wait for the next one!
I don't know for sure if this is true but I don't think injuries occur if you have the setting still set to manual. I at least didn't see any until I turned the setting off
Francisco Mejia is a free agent C who can also play 1st and OF. Also only 28 with B potential
rox also got elehuris montero who is their current 1B in the arenado deal although I don't know how good he is in the show and that's yet to be determined irl lol
Go for the division and only trade players you don’t plan to resign in the offseason, you can always blow the team up after free agency during the winter meetings
This is the type of team I like watching year one there guys on this roster young enough that’ll with winning will be part if the future team perfect pacevdint know why this team anyone would want to skip a majority of year one
With classic pitching there’s still timing u have to press x on the release
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11:54 it was a perfect pitch release. Honestly think the meter would be better at this point
Isiah Kiner-Falefa should be a target.
fyi im not sure if this is true but that shade of blue is close to the eggs of cardinals. Its weird but i think thats the reason for the uniform color/shade.
This just shows why patience is important. 162 games is a lot.
Excuse me Sterlin Thompson (we got him with the Comp pick) has looked fantastic
I know you mentioned wanting the ratings to take over… but isn’t that the point of playing on Simulation? I think you may want to consider actually playing on a different pitching style in order to have more control. Although I haven’t watched the full video yet so maybe switching to AS was the right call.
Turn off reliever warmup
I know this is gonna sound crazy. But in a year or two if Sonny gray keeps playing the way he’s playing. And Tommy edman not performing as well. You should send a trade to Miami for sandy alcantara.
You should look at Endy Rodriguez. Catcher who can play outfield, 1st, and 2nd
Team is doing better than expected but we need to sell high on some of these vets. Their value will only keep decreasing and this team isn’t winning anything of significance to justify keeping them beyond trade deadline.
Franchise G.O.A.T. 🔥
Feel like the Hall of Fame pitching is random. Using HOF difficultly with classic and threw a no hitter against the Yankees in franchise with a 66 OVR pitcher, but then get rocked with a 86 by the A’s
I still would want to move a little quicker to get to the new team building.
Meter Hall of fame pitching is the way to go
I think you still go ahead and trade the aging vets while you can get some good deals for them now, your investing in the future of the franchise.
Trade everyone. Don’t get fooled into thinking this roster is even slightly competitive causing you to stall any progress in the rebuild for a year. If the guys you are gonna trade anyway are over performing, that’s the best case scenario for you to maximize the trade value as much as you can.
The singer season record is 191 by Hack Wilson in 1930 that year he play for the Chicago Cubs
I think the trade you made might not happen most of the time in real life, but if everything happened like we expected it then life would be pretty boring
Strikeout rate is better than K/9 because K/9 says how many of your outs are strikeouts, whereas strikeout rate tells you the percentage of all batters faced that you strikeout. Someone could have a 20 K/9, but thats no good if they face 15 batters an inning
There is No way SD deals a top arm for a 37 year old expensive rental lol
Coach, we need to find a way to get joe michael, idk how we gonna do it but it needs to be done
This is not necessarily important but I think it would be cool if you matched what uniforms you wear based on what the cards actually do in real life. Like they will wear their alt road blue hats against teams that wear a red hat
Don’t fall for the C potential, remember Luis Estrella
need these camera settings asap
Does scouting only work on Sunday’s and what date does it become available? Mine is still locked 🤷♂️
Every Sunday starting with the second Sunday of regular season
I think you should still trade Gibson even with how well he has played and how well things are going. Chances are his play won't last, and he's on an expiring contract. Even if it does last through the end of the year, will it carry on next year with regression? It's highly unlikely. I'd get what you can for him while he's hot. I would keep guys like Arenado and Gray since they have multiple years, it doesn't need to be a full cast off because of the play. I just think trading Gibson makes too much sense.