A Game Warden on Otter Attacks and Being Your Referee | MeatEater Podcast
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- čas přidán 19. 11. 2023
- Steven Rinella talks with Adam Pankratz, Janis Putelis, Ryan Callaghan, Brody Henderson, Seth Morris, and Phil Taylor.
Topics discussed: When the Tough Book laptop shatters the porcelain urinal; when you’re an outfitter and a game warden moves in across the street; get your protein and your vaccine at the same time; Chester the Midwester is performing at The MeatEater Live Tour; where’s Colorado getting its wolves for relocation; the attempt to ban mountain lion and bobcat hunting in Colorado; when your dad’s a vegetarian trapper in Alaska; the snowmobile that said “law enforcement” on it; herbicide; how, “I didn’t know I needed a license,” doesn’t cut it; how Adam doesn’t want to be your referee; getting charged by critters; investigating animal conflicts; when the feds want the state to have management authority; planning hunts to avoid bear areas; otter attacks; humans displacing wildlife; how you shouldn’t fight animals without legs; commercial harvest; the illegal “private menu” that might feature bear paw soup; unknowingly committing a crime while talking to a game warden and then getting ticketed; teaching vs. ticketing; entrapment and not trying to make people into poachers; creating good interactions between the public and game wardens; when you see something, say something; 1-800-TIPMONT; turning in poachers for cash or limited draw tags; listener Peter Block's "Fish and Game" outdo song; and more.
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The way this guy, and largely game wardens in general, see law and its application and usage of discretion, is a huge example for how law enforcement at large could and should work. Fight bad guys, help people that need it, and in that grey area, try and edge towards education and actually fixing the problem and helping people. 10/10.
Only a few of them will exist at a time in law enforcement. I hope we have more.
It is just unfortunate that the great majority of those attracted to law enforcement are those with higher propensity for violence (which is good for fighting bad guys but not so much in making life easier for people who are already struggling) far more than the genuine desire to help people.
Couple that with poor screening and law enforcement education and culture, we get current policing problem popping up all around the world.
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simple but brilliantly put , my friend. i wish i could spam your statement to the world along with this video. make everyone read it , watch it. and then take a ten question quiz on it, so it sticks. this world ( our world as hunter " CONSEVATIONISTS" ) would be a better , more appreciated , communal , place.
"conservationists " sorry, type-o
absolutely get some more game wardens on the podcast. I love hearing things from their perspective
Absolutely agree
I've watched all your shows from the beginning. This is your best show yet. As much as I hate authority types your buddy makes a lot of good points. Have more Game wardens on. Great conversation.
Great guest , most articulate and knowlegable guy I can remember seeing
Great Podcast guys. Game Warden Adam, what an interesting guest and this guy knows what he`s talking about.
What a great conversation. Really enjoyed this.
Pa squirrel season opens back up Dec 11th till the 23rd. Closes for 24th and 25 and then opens back up till Feb 29th
I had the opportunity to meet a Montana Game warden near Stanford MT last fall. He was top notch. Checked us out, educated me on snow berry, seen we were from out of state and explained the area in general, all around good guy.
Very smart law enforcement and a good attitude.
Something we need more of .
End is the best, I imagine Teddy Nugent doing a rock n roll version of it, Steve, up your game. 😂
I know a guy that was out with his brother deer hunting in No.Calif. they came around the hill and saw Robo-Buck. so they walked up & started taking Selfies with Robo-Buck. about that time a Warden pulled up and got of his truck laughing, walked up & they all took a group photo..
Most all of my encounters with game Wardens have been good. A couple that were maybe having a bad day. Everyone I know that has been in trouble with the Warden and or prosecuted have a dislike for them. But that's because most just didn't learn from the first time and wonder why they keep an eye on them.
You guys need to clip the portion about the colorado initiatives and broadcast them as education on all platforms.
More enforcement on podcasts! Great episode
Listening to the podcast while at work and on the topic of commercializing wild game I coincidentally find myself stocking a Purina brand dog chew that is advertised to include wild venison and even has dried venison on the ingredient list.
A friend and I were duck hunting the delta in sac county norcal back in 97 and 3 big ass river otters tried to jump up in the boat as we were hold up in some tulles. It was kinda crazy and they were big! They scared us and we scared them, lol I’m a like what the hell kind of encounter.
Never had any trouble with the otters, but a sea lion steal a duck before we could retrieve it on the mokelumne arm of the delta. He even doubled back and slow rolled us like, "thanks fellas"
no squirrel hunting in Pa during deer season because too many bored hunters take pops at bushytails with their 300 win mag
So... I have heard it said that on opening day of deer season (rifle), PA has the third largest standing standing army in the world. Three quarters of a million hunters in the woods! Cant' swing a dead cat without hitting a dear hunter !
They don't want small game hunters out there with that many high powered rifles slinging lead.
Steve will be happy to know Pistol grips ( neutral grip) is actually not even a pull up. It's a chinup and is much easier than overhand grip pullups. With chinup( underhanded and neutral grip) you can recruit biceps, pecs and several other muscles. That grip was a handicap allowance on Steve's part!
And? Pull up? Sit up? Squat? Does it really matter? Can you go do neutral pull ups (chin ups) vs actual pull ups and count the diff. When done, do chest to bars vs pull ups. Then kipping pull ups vs strict pull ups. Then rest 3 days then do strict left hand pull ups with right hand down, then left hand pull ups with right hand down…then strict vs kipping muscle ups. What about your bodyweight, did u record that? Maybe you holding 2lb more water, oh no..,
@@glenoh88 are you the football player he competed against? Awful defensive bud haha.
@@glenoh88bud calm down, objectively the football player did it wrong. There is a proper way for every little work out and the dude did it the easier way. Stop getting butthurt over a guy pointing out that the competition wasnt even
@@yeeyeebrudderz8629 that’s the point, I’m being facetious lol. 🤦♀️
Oh come on don't encourage him. 😜
I shit you not folks. This show validates my reaction in 2017. Im in Newfoundland, and while moose hunting I was paddling back to camp in my 17 foot Grumman canoe in the dark. My headlamp barely lit the front of the canoe and it was so calm and quiet that night you could hear every water drop off of the paddle. Moose are calling near the shore all evening and are now ramping up, but it’s too dark to see or shoot. All of a sudden a blast of air was shot at me from what I assumed to be a moose nose over the bow of the canoe. I immediately thought moose, and prepared to be flipped over. Then the SOB big male otter blew a second blast of air at me while holding the sterns gunnel with his fingers. It was just a few breaths of air, but for a second I thought it’s was all over. 😂. We’ve spent lots of time with those otters since then and they are wonderful to watch.
whoooa. crazy story . good on ya for not panicking. Ive been within 40 ( ok 60 maybe) yards of a bull moose in British Columbia. no moose tag and a .308 gunsight scout in my hands. and let me tell you , just that thing staring me down and blasting his nostril's made my knees knock. to think you got a snort blast that close to you in the dark, in moose country . hmmmm i dont know ? i might have panicked, jumped in and swam to deep water. or started swinging my paddle. seeing my first moose made me go home and educate my self on moose. you didnt panic , used your head/ experience, and now your better for it. now you co-exist with the otter. hence the point of these videos. keep sharing . folks are listing
@@tinfoilhead9364 good story too brother. I froze up expecting to be tossed in the water. We’ve been charged before by several bulls. My dad barely survived a mauling by an old bull in the 90’s. We’re used to close contact with them with archery hunts, but I find the anxiety is always high around them when they’re close. The potential outcomes are too real with them. Beautiful animals though. I respect them very much. I’ll share my favourite video of moose that was filmed by Brad Fry in another comment shortly. Hopefully the link works. Cheers
@@GHM28 . awesome. id love to see the videos. im actually a southern Californian that has no moose experience. in fact I've only hunted pig - and mule deer ( i have not got a mule deer yet ) and migratory birds. a friend took me deer hunting in British Colombia. i had no idea the difference /danger between deer hunting and moose hunting until i was stared down by a late oct , rutting moose bull . anyone thats been charged by one and lived to tell about it has my respect. after i hugged a tree for what felt like a life time , and the moose walked away , adrenalin went down , i marveled to my buddy about how huge it was. my buddy laughed at me and said " that was a small immature bull , dont even think his spikes wer legal , wait till you see an adult. " lol.
Interesting about the plane view. I was fishing off our private dock, warden went around, crossed 2 other private lots to get to our private lot just to check and see if I had a license. I was even catch and release fishing. It was so odd. I’ve mostly had great experiences with wardens though. Had good conversations, gotten info, had one help me once just because he was there and we were chatting.
super well spoken dude. even steve shut his mouth for the majority of this one. Great stuff
Montana is easier on weed then commifornia is. But nothing commifornia does makes any sense does it??!!!👀👀🤔🤔😳
Never been hunting, huge fisherman and love your show and knowledge. but NJ has no culture of hunting so been hard to meet anyone who hunts. The harsh rules definitely impact the culture
Same bro
South Jersey sure has a long history of hunting culture.
Best channel.
Best deer cartridge is the 30-06
Why don’t you guys address the elephant in the room? The ODFW relocated wolves into Western Oregon specifically Southwestern Oregon. That’s a fact. They did the same in Western Washington as well that’s a fact. My buddies Caught them red handed. In a Nutsack, this is to get animal numbers down, so tags will be lower amounts until we breed hunting out of society. It’ll be a rich man’s private property game just like Europe. Once the wolves cougars bears etc. have taken the numbers to a certain level. Hunting will be so limited that they will give out hardly any tags and it will become a thing of the past. This shit started 40 years ago at least in Oregon
Otters are demonic little hellspawns. Curious to see what this warden has to say.
Just learning of all this stuff between Steve and Matt. Steve, please be careful. Watch your back.
I live in pennsylvania and while on public land I love squirrel hunters. They make all kinds of noise and drive deer to you and when the see you up in a tree holding a bow they wave and beat feet and get out of country. I don't dislike squirrel hunters
Hope they talk about the lady getting attacked by the Otter in Dillion
On the show Wardens there was an episode where some kids dumped pheasant that weren’t cleaned properly.
Pennsylvania small game opens December 11
And we got elk herebin Northern Wisconsin
Will there be a record label for the ending music at some point?
We shot a buck with a compound bow in Conifer Co, took 5 sheriff's officees called by pist people, 1 game warden and 24 hours we got him tracked and had to put a 2nd shot. Knock and run
Scram! It’s the fuzz!!
Not related to the podcast, which I really enjoy. I'm Montana raised but live in Minnesota now and have just shot a large fatty doe last day of slug, off an apple orchard on some public. To my amazement the liver had not mineral or chalky taste what so ever! In fact it had an apple taste to it!! Rest of the meat a strange but great sweetness to it. Deer here primarily eat corn so our venison tastes pretty domestic over the muley I grew up eating in NW Montana.
This is also in my opinion a social test
Again i live in pennsylvania and I had a good friend who got a weed card and because of it he was no longer allowed to buy a gun. He was oddly fine with this until I told he it went against his second ammendment rights and he cut up his weed card and got completely away from state weed. And got way better black market weed and could still buy guns
we need a meateater podcast clips channel
2:38:41 thank you excellent excellent program 👏 👍
I wonder if Colorado is trying to get the wolfs do their dirty work on the bobcat lion hounds.
Had a friend get check for led in his shot gun shells. The game wardens led checker ran out of batteries. So my buddy ended up having some batteries in his pickup and let the cop use them. He knew he had nothing to hide, the game warden went through his bucket of shotgun shells. A bucket that he has had for years and the game warden found a couple shells that had led shot. Even though he gave him the batteries that helped the game warden, he still got a ticket.
Game wardens are douche bags…those story along with thousands of others just like it prove it!!
Yep... that tells you all you need to know
Colorado can have Wisconsin wolves I think most Wiscy's would be okay with it. Wisconsin has Elk and I'm sure the wolves are eating them
Steve is right, look to Minnesota.
Just for note, you can still commercially sell wild pig (at least in Texas) as long as it's trapped and brought live to a licensed facility to be tested..
That's because they are considered an invasive species and non-native. They can be hunted without regulation.
@@CAW78 Well no, if you want to sell it commercially, there are regulations. e.g you have to trap it and bring it live to a licensed facility.
@@kanagawakenji7 I agree with what you are saying. There are regulations for selling it commercially. What I am saying is there are no regulations for harvesting them. There are no limits are seasons. That's why you can legally sell them commercially.
In BC you are not allowed to keep the gallbladder of a bear. You can keep the paws only if they remain attached to the hide
If wolves are slowly growing and expanding their range why dont we just let them? Make aure they're protected for a while and just let it happen. That way the animals get back on the landscape and you can potentially avoid at least some of the poltical backslash or in theory its not so easy to pin it on any one action, person etc.
The guy that brought the Colorado wolf topic at the beggining look pretty embarrased in that sudden update break 🤣. Very funny
As someone with a masters degree i’d never advise a kid to go to college. Its a scam. You can learn whatever you want on the internet if you try. Learn to do things with your hands that require skill and you will never regret a day of work in your life.
And you wont be in debt to a machine that thinks you are a sheep
@meateater
There will be no ice when you come to Cleveland. But if you want to come steelhead fishing be happy to take you out
Wait..... CAL IS BALD?!
I just finished stitching up a guy, asked about his tetanus status, he said he got it a year earlier when he was bit by an otter. I said “you’re the guy!” I had heard the story from everyone as it happened on my day off.
Grind beaver 50/50 with either your goose or venison. Trust me 🔥😎👊
What an amazing sight it would have been to see North America before europeans came to its shores.
Great point on catching poachers and not making poachers out of good hunters. At least not tempting them.
Prob not gonna have good enough ice to ice fish but if you do you need to fish kinzua
The commercial sale of game meat is illegal, the commercial sale of antlers should also be made illegal
The modern wildlife conservation standards when it comes to hunting has done far more for stable, healthy population of wildlife than ALL ban proposals in history combined. It’s just a fact. Without hunting and trapping in that equation, you get to a population where now it’s not balanced and you have animals dying far worse deaths from starvation, disease, etc. humans live here and have changed the landscape of the world. There’s nothing we can do about that. But we CAN control the population so that our modern concrete cities don’t drive currently healthy animals into poverty by having too many mouths for what’s left of Mother Nature to feed
Big facts with the weed excitement to the excitement to ban hunting practices. Not saying all weed smokers feel that way it’s the politicians and liberals I moved from NH to Mass and let’s just say fishing is my thing until I move or get the means to get good with a bow 😂
LOl folks from Colorado would automatically dismiss any pronunciation of their state by John Denver.
25:45 How non gun people think gun owners act. That had me cracking up
❤do you need to possess a fur bearers license?
My buddy was fishing next to his friend and a game warden was feet away from him. Lingering. The game warden gave him a ticket because he snagged a lure, broke the lure off, but it still had a long braid line attached to it. He cut it off. The lure was in a tree. So he tied on another lure and cast it out and he got a ticket for two lines in the water. Because the line that had been cut was still visible and he didnt remove it. Which from where he was at on the shore was impossible. And he swears to this. Like what? Was he supposed to leave the spot?
Hate hate hate game wardens!
That house (or whatever) in the Bridgers is god damn eye sore. 1:15:45
You Laugh at this but it is very serious in Half Moon Bay, CA They have a Actual Signs to be aware of the Otters.
New Jersey small game is open while you guys are out this way
In British Columbia you cannot possess Gall Bladder through harvest.
They need to stop messing around with this stuff. Everytime someone comes up with a new brilliant predator transplant idea...its does way more harm than good.
Is Yanni that large or is that guy next to him that small?
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“Something really important to remember is the green revolution in agriculture has helped save wildlife…” 1:49:27
Sometimes agriculture gets thrown under the bus when it comes to wildlife… nice to hear somebody who works with wildlife everyday state that Agriculture actually helps save wildlife. By providing alternative food sources to humans other than wildlife….
Lol
Oi Mate. Ya got a loicense fer dat?
Do these people who want to ban hunting on predators understand any form of common sense. I'm assuming the majority of these people are anti-hunters. If they win the vote then they need to take the responsibilty of informing all those predators which they voted for that they can't hunt.
No management is not conservation, it is ignorant and irresposible.
#Roger
Wil someone please unmute the game warden??
How can you say seventh day Adventist, without saying seventh day Adventist?
Linkettes.
There's zero chance this guy passes their stated "annual fitness qualification".
1:03:18...three branches of the government are PhRMA, Oil and banks
Game wardens…the lowest life form of law enforcement🙄
You know what's lower than that? Anonymous commenters who don't have a clue what they're talking about but comment anyway.
The modern wildlife conservation standards when it comes to hunting has done far more for stable, healthy population of wildlife than ALL ban proposals in history combined. It’s just a fact. Without hunting and trapping in that equation, you get to a population where now it’s not balanced and you have animals dying far worse deaths from starvation, disease, etc. humans live here and have changed the landscape of the world. There’s nothing we can do about that. But we CAN control the population so that our modern concrete cities don’t drive currently healthy animals into poverty by having too many mouths for what’s left of Mother Nature to feed