How to fit MDF Architrave. The Big build episode 47
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- čas přidán 16. 08. 2022
- I am fitting the MDF Architraves at the Big Build, this is an enjoyable part of any project. I demonstrate how to cut MDF architrave and how to fit MDF architrave in this video.
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A pleasure to watch a craftsman at work Robin. My daughter bought a new build a couple of years ago and the architraves were all about 3/4 inch away from the floor! I asked the site manager why and he said they are all cut off site so the so called carpenter just pins them on as they are! I said that wasn’t good enough so they went round gluing tiny slithers of architrave in the gaps😂😂.
🙄😂😂 that’s funny, but also quite disturbing too.
Watched this ages ago…finally TODAY was the day. 6 x architrave sets fixed today. All these little tricks and tips saved me so much time…made a little block like yours..cut the architraves in pairs etc. Brilliant…and I actually enjoyed it…I used to dread this part of my DIY ❤
Well done mate, made my day that I could help you, keep up the good work!
@@ukconstruction I’ve just ordered your hinge jig cos it’s time for me to fit 6 x doors!
Always a pleasure to watch “real” skilled craftsmen !👏👍😀
I bet the decorators on your jobs loving following you!
Ed’s process of positioning the two architraves back to back was a neat idea the keep the biscuit router flat. I tend to use architraves that are 3 to 5mm thicker than the corresponding skirtings. Working on older houses the walls are not always dead straight and so it helps to have a bit of lee way when butting up the skirting boards to the architraves to leave a neat finish.
Fantastic video Robin !!!!! very enjoyable, thank you
Wonderful informative video to watch.
It’s satisfying watching these lovely well built dwellings with nice flat plaster and square openings. I do a lot of work on Victorian buildings, sometimes newly plastered; nothing is square or flat; the frames are wonky on both planes and the plaster might be bulging right next to the frame. Wouldn’t mind a vid on overcoming all those issues. Good vid.
Yep I've had to do all sorts of to get the architrave on the wall nicely when the plaster has been proud of the door lining. Adding more material to the lining or sometimes planing the back off the architrave to get over bulges and lumps.
Always a pleasure to watch an artist at work - lovely stuff, Robin.
Perfection as always! Ed’s doing awesome too, most definitely earning his Jedi stripes
Nice job, well done 👏👏👏👍
Brilliant as always. Loved the back-to-back verticals to keep the router upright for the biscuit cuts.
You give soo much in the vids .... as a builder in the states I love your perfection and methods and as an editor for commercials I love the talent behind the channel. The sound is great and the intro is strong, the b-roll edits are great and quick as it should be with the superb educational material you provide. Cheers to all. Hope the days are glorious this week and thanks again for this awesome channel.
Hi Thor, you are my kindest commenter!! Hope your well mate
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Brilliant video, perfect timing as I'm about to start archi and skirting at my self build. Looking forward to the skirting video coming next
Amazing 👏
Thanks a lot for taking us on this trip/tour, even if it slows you down. I'm sure we all appreciate it.
Excelente trabajo 👊 💯
love the biscuits robin, definately gonna do on my next project
Perfect. The Clevett standard!!!
Great job Robin, Learnt this way about 30 hrs ago, When I was an apprentice shop fitting with Kilburn and Gayford joinery in London Great to Watch good job Ed .
30 hrs?!😂😂 surprised you’re not still just sweeping up after only 4 days😜
Very informative cheers,,
Thanks Robin
Who would’ve thought a video on architrave could be that interesting 😃 as always great engaging video and picked up a couple of tips too. Great channel robin
Cheers James
The only reason why I watch these tutorials is to reaffirm my methods of carpentry. I, like a lot of trades I imagine, have self doubt. I'm told I do an amazing job but self doubt always creeps in.
You'd think after nearly 3 decades I'd be swanning around site like everything is 2nd nature, it is I guess but I'm always hoping I'm doing the right thing!
Thanks Robin for, if anything, putting my mind at ease about what I do.
So true, we never feel 100 percent sure do we!! And as you mention even after decades in the Trade the doubt... confidence... niggles!! What is wrong with us!, have a great week mate and you are good!!
Nice new saw helps Robin 🙂
Looks like a trusty Irwin (jack) saw. I’ve tried all of them and I always go back.
Love the biscuit tip
I wish I'd watched this before I did my architraves I used soft wood and sure enough they've shrunk back. Ripping them off and MDF going on following your brilliant demo.
Didn't think anyone else used biscuits for skirting-architrave joint. Great to see I'm not the only one. Vindication against the mockers!
It's brilliant on your own house but what price are you charging for skirts and arcs on a regular job
Quality as always.
The more i run my own projects and the older i get the more bothered i have become about been efficient, precise ,accurate, etc. i try my best to get the finish as good as possible, I have been doing Joiney for 15 years now and some of your little tips have come in so handy. things i haven't thought of. in this particular video pre cutting all the legs and then spinning upside down for exact length, i usually do the same but mark the miter position, i will definitely be trying yours next time. it goes all the way back to setting your studwork out to allow for a full archi, there the small details people dont allways see.
Nice one Josh!
Lovely work as usual robin, won't be too long now before I'm onto the skirtings and "facings" as we call them in Scotland!! Final stretch of a church conversion on the outskirts of Glasgow.
Bet you won't be using biscuit joints with the skirtings and facings..
Aye mate, facings all the way!!
Quality work. Never seen any 2nd fix work where the skirting and architraves are jointed with biscuit joints.
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Great video Rob , might give skirting board world a try ,must say I do prefer the 4.2 lengths as less waste on architrave at least . Really enjoy watching the big build videos and looking forward to the loft job, I should really get a life lol
Lambs tongue ! .. i call this a Lambs tongue moulding as well and 100% of people including chippys look at me like an alien.. GOOD STUFF mate
Hey Rob, Your channel, your work ethic, your work quality and your skill is just so satisfying and mesmerising, I get lost in your videos for hours. So nice to see a real tradesman pass on his skills to the new generation too.
If I was younger and coming into my trade I’d definitely want to learn my craft from you. :)
Thank you Wayne super kind words!!
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Love that you silicone the archs. Here in Australia you’d be lucky to get 3 nails. The only biscuits I’ve seen are at smoko and there’s no need for accurate mitres cause everyone is sponsored by poly filler.
😂imenglish but i worked in queensland for a few years building steel framed kit homes, your absolutely right on all counts, brought back so many memories, especially smoko lol , i remember if the plumber put his waste pipe in the wrong place in the slab, we would cut it flush and fix our stud straight over the top, everyone was on meterage rate and didnt give a shit about the next trade coming in
@@michaelhorn5633 haha, so true. It’s like being on a game show. Robin should move over here, he’d save a small fortune on nails and glue, plus all that time spent doing thing properly. He’d only need to work a 3 day week.
I do mine completely differently, I use no adhesive at all just pin the horizontal piece on the top then put each side on, I pin the corners (pre drill) . none of them have ever moved or separated, perfect joins. I can see how easy robin makes it look but that ca glue I can't seem to get the hang of it lol, either too much glue or too much activator I guess.
I liked how you called supergluing the joints as a “little frantic”! That’s exactly what I’m like. Well, apart from being very frantic that is! Haha!
Another cracking video Robin. Keep up the good work lad. 💪🏻
Just one thing though that I couldn’t help but notice is that I think you’re setting all the door lining’s to the wrong height, either that or Ed is a flipping tall 🤔 😅
He is about 6'7" and I'm small!!
Nice work fella but , rather a ideal world, come follow some of the plastering I come across, if I’ve forgotten my makita magic wand it can take 3 times as long !!
Yes mate I here you!! The standards across the trades are slipping as time goes on... that's a shame, the difference between a decent plasterer and a rough one makes so much difference to the second fixing!!
Nice video Robin.I like the tip of putting the architrave upside down to mark it. Much quicker than measuring with the tape.
I've been putting biscuits on the join from skirting to architrave for about a year now after another carpenter friend showed me. I also now biscuit the 45s of my architraves and use PVA rather than the more popular mitre mate.
Another quality video. But I'm surprised with the absence of hearing protection when routing the biscuit joints Robin. It's because of your previous vlogs on the importance of using them, that I use mine and drum into my sons why they should use them when operating hearing-damaging tools. I'm sure my awful, damaged hearing and tinnitus problems go back to the 70's during my apprenticeship and after, when PPE / health & safety were scarcely seen.
Rob sir you are diamond 💎, sir open an academy I want to learn more from you. I love your professional ideas.
This is by no means criticism but we always avoid if possible any gap filling adhesive in our experience it holds the architrave off the plasterwork to far even if you apply a small amount. Another point worth mentioning is if your walls are not coated this adhesive as any will not stick to bare plaster we have had jobs fail in days of old.
Our preferred method is to cut as we go in many referbs linings are just not accurate enough to pre assemble architraves we then use expanding foam and a paslode a minimal amount is required for a dead tight fit and no issues with adhesion a competent decorator will always caulk all edges we have always taught this .
Great channel 👍
Could you do a vid on fitting doors and architraves to existing frames please Rob. I'm finding fitting architraves to exiting frames a nightmare 🤭🤣
Great video, what external skim beads at 45 degrees do you use on the upstairs bathroom opening, and where do you get them.
Thanks for all the great content in your videos, I’m thinking about getting a diamond back artisan tool bag like yours. Do you have to bend over to get into the bottom fastener pouch? Any help would be appreciated. Thanks again.
Hi Danny, message me on Instagram and I will give you the full low down, these are fantastic tool belts and pouches!!
Hi robin In your opinion what’s been the best mitre saw you have used ? I have the festool ks120 and dewalt 706 I prefer my dewalt I had it since I started but it’s getting old now so I’d like new saw
I normally use glasses or safety's when getting that close to a router with my bare eyes, nice job though, marking out is the most critical part of any job under the sun.
I find if you use the activator on both sides it works better
Hi Robin what activator do you use mostly
Great work as always mate, is it worth putting a biscuit in the mitres of the architrave when fixing or is that over kill just something I was thinking of trying at some point ? 👍🏻
Over kill
Absolutely enjoy the channel. I would like a request if at all possible. Is there a way to mute or lower the volume during the loud parts like the router and saw? I just find myself having to lower the volume, then when you begin to talk, raise the volume again. Only if it would be easy to do on your end when uploading. I don't want to add to your already busy schedule. Thanks.
Hi Chris, I will try to pull it down more, I had reduced the levels a bit but I will increase it where possible, thanks for the feedback mate and watching!!
I really enjoyed your vlogs.I am a time served tradesman as well ,but can't seam to make enough to buy all the nice tools that you have,what am I doing wrong, is it just a location thing .I am on the isle of wight. Thanks Gareth
Hi Gareth, I hear you mate, have you listened to any of the radio show podcast that I have done with Fix Radio? There are some ideas and tips that I share about my experiences and you may find it useful, on another note, I'm coming to the Isle.of white in a couple of weeks!! What's is the best beach/walk?? Cheers Robin
@@ukconstruction it depends if you want quite or busy.Sandown ,Shanklin Bay for more tourists or west wight for quite.
“Ed” scale a bit disorienting (low door). Part of preparing a “used” house for move in. Previous owner stacked 3 cut pieces of architrave in the corner by the door. Jamb and plaster misaligned. Fixed that. Laid out architrave. Left side. Top. Left side. Why it wasn’t installed.
What did you use to make the rebate in the off cut of architrave?
Great video! What mm margins are you using for the architraves please?
About 8 to 10mm or to avoid the knuckle of the ball bearing hinges
Great video
Why not just use your folding ruler
That’s always in the back pocket
To mark the arcs 🤷🏻♂️
When you cut the pairs do you get any tear out on the face of the underside one of the pair?
Hi Bill, not with the chopsaw, it is super clean providing there is a decent sharp blade too!!
@@ukconstruction what blade do you recommend? Thanks
Do you have a particular brand of pin gun for this that you recommend?
I have been using the milwaukee 18g on the 18v platform and its been really reliable, very few jams etc, the Hikoki is gaining a decent reputation too I am yet to try that though!
Robin what boots are those? They look well worn so I guess you like them. I'm into my 4th pair of workboots and still uncomfortable after 2-3 hours.
Hi Paul, these boots where by Scruffs, not bad... lost their shape abit and the lining started to deteriorate and leave bits of plastic in the bottom, but they lasted a year so not bad!!
Dont know if I missed it but what size was the margin for fitting the architrave
@@stevehallam6495 The good eye I hope 😄
8mm by the looks. It’s important to allow clearance not only for the hinge but also for the door swing. I have seen doors hung with the architraves set so close that when the doors are opened to about 100 degrees they hit the architrave and bounce back.
💙👊😎
With Ed’s door architrave, why did he put 2 biscuits in using the clamps when one of them was up against the wall on the left? Surely the biscuit needed to go on the face of the architrave so that the skirting butts up against it when fitted
Mind you, if you have a biscuit in the bathroom door that Robin fitted and another in Ed’s door you wouldn’t be able to fit the skirting in unless the mfd flexes a bit. How do you do biscuits and skirting in a wall with doors reasonably close together if you put a biscuit in each adjacent architrave?
@@toady5843 1 set of Architraves first then fit the Skirting then fit the second set of Architraves
Probably just force of habit as they are biscuiting nearly all of the architraves within the house
I bet Ed hung the washing out. : )
No the washing line was too low!!
Robin you keep on about Ed’s height i went to school wth a certain PeterMathew aka chewbacca who stared in star wars at school he stood 6ft 9 inches age 14 years and was a member of our basketball team he was a porter in our local hospital.
Wow!! That's it cool!! He would make Ed look as short as me!! Are you in the States??
Typical of Rob as usual making a fiddly job look easy, does fitting biscuits make it harder to fit the skirting? I did wonder though regarding cutting mdf indoors, l have been led to believe that when using power tools on mdf they produce formaldehyde fumes therefore requiring a fume grade mask is this correct? Great videos Rob
Stakker Humanoid here to help.
Number 1 most important rule when cutting MDF architrave:
Measure once, cut twice.
how tall is Ed? id say around 205cm or so.
Wierdly i love those trousers where are they from?
@Englebertstrauss
@@ukconstruction thanks mate
So you're saying....that a gallon of gripfill and 68mm framing nails for isn't the way to go? I think you must be trying to turn the British construction industry on its head Robin! 🤔🙃
LOL nobody biscuits arches and skirts.
Just use a combination square for the reveals, and MDF suck’s.
What's your opinion on using 15mm skirting and 18mm architrave so the skirting is set back 3mm.
Biscuit OTT
Thats how we roll!!
On next video , donate a pound to charity for every time you say “true”
True!!
Great tips Robin. Very tidy work, I think margins being accurate around the frame is a must, ⅜ was the margin for architrave most chippy used here in Ireland. As you said in the video working off timber floors it's nice to get a clean cut on the floor. Wish I had Ed's height for the heads 🤣
Hi Robin. Loving the big build! What biscuit bit did you use in the router?
Hi Gary, this is a 1/4 inch shank, biscuit cutter from trend, others are also available, check out my Amazon page search for me there and there are various cutters