How to correctly wire up a Range 🔌plug and outlet 🤔
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- čas přidán 20. 08. 2022
- How to prevent scratches on vinyl flooring while moving the Range out, to wire up the wall outlet. I wanted to check 🤔 the Range 🔌cord set that was wired up by the appliance company. Only to find out , it was all wrong! Ground and neutral have to be separated on a 4 wire circuit. Watch this video to see how it's all done.
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This guy is very good, I do most my work on my own with my sons, to teach them. But I would hire this guy anytime.
Thanks so much for watching and the compliment. ❤️ I appreciate you 👍
I never comment on CZcams videos but this showed me everything I needed to know. Everything was explained, the camera was moved when needed for visual demonstration…this was all perfect. I couldn’t have asked for a better video. Thank you 🙏🏼
Thank you for watching and commenting . I'm glad I could help. And thank you for the compliment 👍🏻👍🏻
Thank you for this video. You did great explaining details and warnings.
It's nice to see that there are still people that care about doing things right and customer safety! Thanks for a informative video!
Thanks for watching Edward 👍🏻👍🏻 I appreciate the compliment.
Great job Ron,
I like how you go the extra mile to get the job done the proper and right way!!!
Personally I'm glad the appliance guys screwed up so I now know what to look for when I work on my new cabin in Alaska. Great video.
Just an old hippie chick that likes to DIY. I watched 2 other videos about installing electric ranges but Ron Doyle's video is far and above the others, in fact it is excellent!!! Thank you so much! I 👍and subscribed. Look forward to more helpful hints from him on other DIY projects. Thanks again!
Good job and good timing... we have a new range and the install coming in 4 days. Ive learned a lot watching this video,! Thank you!!
Very well done presentation. The camera work was excellent. The explanation was perfect. I really appreciate you sharing your equipment choices as well as your reasoning behind it. This was so well done. Thank you! I would hire this man in a heartbeat.
I'm looking to switch from a gas to electric stove and I'll tell you the first thing I'm looking at is how it's ground under the back plate. That was a little shocking to see. Great video! And the camera placement was perfect, I felt like I was right down there with you.
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I hope you do not mind my comment. A very well done and accurate video! For your viewers, many do not know what to do when they move into a house. 3 or 4 prong cord or receptacle? Do not trust that if there is a 3 prong plug that it is correct. You must check to see if there are 3 conductors and a ground or just 3 conductors. If your house was build after mid to late 80’s, it most likely will have ground. It was required in 1984 NEC. Do not change the receptacle to match the cord if it is 3 prong and house is 4 prong. Change the cord and how it attaches as shown in this video to 4 prong. 3 prong is an exception allowed for older houses only. Respectfully, Kevin
Thanks Kevin 👍🏻👍🏻. I very much appreciate your comment and input. Please chime in anytime my friend.
Great catch on the cord wiring great to see someone thinking all the time. 👌🏾👏🏾
thanks for the excellent video. because of your video I checked the cord set wiring and sure enough it was all wrong. Not only was the ground/neutral jumper not removed, but they wired the cord connectors on top of the stove connectors rather than on the terminal block below where the manual showed they should go. Good work.
Man Ive done few of those with that #6 Romex...Its sucks..Good job
Thank you, I am a homeowner who you help doing my installation. Great video!
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It very helpful I learnt how to install the bracket to hold the cord. Thanks
Well done, very helpful!
Great Info. Thank you.
Really good. Complete presentation❤
good job my brother
Nice job. Thanks
Cool 😎 👍
Thanks
Excellent so many little tips all worth their weight in gold
Thank you so much for watching and the compliment ❤️ I greatly appreciate it 👍 👍Math Man.
Great and detailed video. Keep on the good work. Thank you!!
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In my state a home owner can do their own electric. I'm having an new dual fuel range installed. After the contractor doing the gas line emptied my wallet I thought I could move the old 40 amp circuit over 16 inches and convert the breaker to 30 amp. The main issue I had was the #6 in the box. That's a pain to work with. Your first class instructions solved my problems. Your remark about the wire coil and cord alignment awareness solved all my inexperience issues. Thank you very much!
Thanks for watching and commenting 👍🏻 I'm glad the video helped you out.
Good job
Thanks. Taking the drawer out to situate the cord is a good idea. I was pushing the range back and trying to get the cord to fall properly so the range would be against the wall with no cord getting in the way.
Your certainly welcome. Thank you for watching. And the comment ❤️ I appreciate you 👍😊
awesome job
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Makes the job quicker to use a cable clamp. Then you don't have to work under the stove. Clamp it to the cable, slip it in and install the star nut inside the junction box (on the stove), then screw down your conductors as you did making sure to remove the ground strap on the neutral as you did.
Great comment Douglas 👍🏻. I have done that in the past and now thinking, I should have mentioned the use of a cable clamp as a good alternative if the factory clamp was missing. Thanks for keeping me on my toes.
Thank you for the video. Very helpful and great tips. I learn a lot by watching your videos and the tips. I appreciate you showing which parts and materials do you use. Thank you!!. Just quick question, do you normally use stranded or solid wire for the 30A (electrical dryer)? Keep on the good work!!
Thanks for watching and commenting 👍🏻 I really appreciate it 😊
In a residential setting, I use 10-3 NM+ ground. It's a solid copper wire.
Thanks again 👍🏻 for the compliment 🤠
Any way you could do a couple videos of how you do outside Receptacles and lights with different trims of siding like vinyl, hardy board, board and batton. I work with several different companies and seems like they all like doing it different ways 😅.
Thank you for watching and commenting Zack 👍 I've been wanting to do that. Waiting for the right opportunity to do so is my problem, high winds, rain and construction noise etc...
Its better to have a little wire showing than to have the casing to high into the receptical. If the casing is to high it can melt and start a fire.
Thanks for watching and commenting. Your right. If the wire's insulation jacket is pinched under a screw terminal can be very bad. This causes resistance and resistance causes heat and heat causes the jacket to melt past it's flash point thus causing fires.
If an inspector is doing his job 🤔 they may catch this and fail the inspection.
But...what we really want to see (and no video I've found yet shows it) how to run the wire from the breaker box to behind the stove if the house was finished with gas only and a 110 behind the range, and not cut-up or destroy a bunch of sheetrock.
Thanks for watching and commenting. If the opportunity arises, I'll film it. Thanks for the video suggestion , I appreciate you 👍🏻
I was looking for the same 😢
Was looking for the same too
Hey Ron, was that 6 AWG or 8 AWG? Been doing this over 40 years... I really enjoy watching and learning from other Master Electricians around our country. As always, we'll done!
Hey Roy, I appreciate you watching and commenting 😊. I use 8-3 NM for ranges up to 90' of wire run and step up the wire to 6-3 NM if it's over 90' of wire run.
I have what looks like an older 3 wires hooked into a 4 prong oven receptacle. Is it OK to change the 4 prong to a 3 prong? 240v
Thanks for watching Angel. If your house is wired for a range with three wire, you'll need to change the range wire to a three prong cord/plug set to match. Just make sure the neutral and ground are bonded together at the range with a bonding strap which is supplied with all new Ranges. If you're appliance guy through this bonding strap away 🤔 One can be made from a bare no.10 copper piece of wire. I hope that helps you.
Great information! I do have a question. I'm getting a dual fuel Cafe range and am confused by the electrical requirements. Installation instructions are saying 30amp circuit in one spot and 40amp in another. Calling GE isn't very helpful. Wattage of the oven is 4,000 watts. Which breaker do I install? Thanks!
Thanks for watching and commenting Rebecca. That does sound confusing 🤔. I know and have seen manufacturer's do this before. If your range is under 100' away from the main panel's location 30amp is adequate on a 10 gauge wire size. But whenever I see the manufacturer specify a higher amperage such as your instructed, I always wire to the side of caution. So I would install an 8 gauge for a 40 amp breaker. That way your covered. I hope that helps you.
@@workingmanrondoyle3287 Thank you for your help! I'll definitely do the 40amp with 8ga. Have a wonderful Christmas!
The stove i have now came with the house and directly wired, is it really a bad idea to just hard wire the new one, i dont see the need to put an outlet and then have to hard wire the shove to a plug as well
Hey Todd. A standard Range that is designed to be moved, needs (disconnecting means). A cord and plug connection is considered just that ! Now that you watched the video 🤔 I would hope you would consider correct it. Thanks for watching and commenting 👍🏻
I'm trying to do this but I'm only seeing black and gray with a coper wire.
Thanks for watching and commenting. It sounds like you have two conductors with a ground. If your in an older home Pre-1980's and this is the feed to the range? You can wire a new range to this by using a matching cord set. The ground and neural are bonded together in this application.
But on the other hand, if you moved into a newer home 1990's and you brought your older range with you? You'll need to update the cord set to a four prong where the ground and neural are separated. The Electric codes have changed in year past making this a requirement. I hope that answers your questions and I haven't confused you.
What size of the wire for stove.. and what size of amp
Hey James, thanks for watching and commenting. I use an all copper NM- Romex 8-3 wire for standard ranges up to about 80' in length on a 50 amp double pole breaker. If the length is longer than 80'+ I like to step up to a heavier 6-3 NM Romex to reduce any voltage drop.
Can you not lay the stove on its side to have easier access?
Thank you for watching and commenting. I suppose 🤔 you could but it's two extra moves to get it back in position.
Horizontal not vertical screw alignment on finished receptacle plates oh that’s gonna get a few comments 🤣🤦🏾
Oh may goodness 🤔 Ya caught me 😂🤣
kinda like a new toilet paper roll being put on backwards!! Some people just wanna watch the world burn!! Lol
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Neutral bonded to ground on the appliance is a major code violation. Is this range a Listed device?
Your absolutely right. Thanks for watching and commenting. Yes, it is a list and labeled U.L. appliance. Mostly all the appliances and fixtures I install are listed and labeled. So far I ran into two that were not and I refuse to install them. Both of these items were something the customer bought online 😥 and most of the websites don't even mention it. Really sad this junk gets through customs and border patrol check points.
I wonder if there was any mention of the bonded neutral configuration in the installation manual. If so, that’s forgivable, except for the default configuration being a bonded neutral, vs being in the ungrounded state by default.
@@aerofart thanks for replying. Now that you mention it 🤔I wished I showed that on camera. The wiring schematic is printed and posted for 3 and 4 pin range cord installation to the back side of that range. It would have been a good idea to point this out to the audience lol...
@@workingmanrondoyle3287 Can you explain for a regular person on a 4-wire installation why "neutral bonded to ground on the appliance is a major code violation." But yet it is OK to do the neutral bonded to ground on the 3-wire installation by using the ground strap.
I just had a Samsung stove professionally installed. It is a 4-wire installation. The instructions state to "Cut and discard the ground strap. Do not discard any screws." So do you just remove the grounding strap, exactly as you did in the video, or cut it so that the upper portion is still connected to the upper and lower white wires? The professional who installed it did not remove the grounding strap, but connected the green wire to the bottom of the strap, as opposed to what was initially seen on your stove with both the (lower) white and green connected to the same screw.
Also, is there supposed to be a strain relief or not? The Samsung installation states, "For Conduit Installation Only." The professional installation for my stove did not put a strain relief, but there is no conduit, just the cord, which goes through the large hole.
@@sub3marathonman788 Thanks for watching and commenting 👍🏻. As to your question 🤔 about this issue of bonding-vs-not bonding the neural to ground. The Nec. revised the code quite a few years ago about this, deeming it was much safer to add a neutral to kitchen ranges then share the ground on the appliance. This was becoming more of a public safety concern due to the electronics that were added to the modern day Range. Older style ranges from the 1960's to the 1980's only had 2-hots and a ground. So that's why most older homes had only 3 wire feeders. The only thing that needed a neutral was the oven light which shared the ground as a neural. This would cause the potential for a person touching the appliance to get shocked. Most of the oven timers were non-electric (mechanical) until the late 1980's Thur today's models.
Sad but true 🤔Appliance technicians aren't electricians and most are paid on an hourly bases by there employer. Not enough adequate training on this topic. So going off of what you said, your range was not wired right. The ground strap can be cut or removed. Same difference, your separating the neutral from the ground. Mostly all range and dryer cords come with cord strain relief clamps. And yes they should be used to prevent wires being chafed on the ranges sheet metal ! Most appliance delivery people won't install them due to the time it takes to do it the right way. I hope that answers your questions.
You know there are no google results and no youtube results for how to fix an electric range top that is sagging in the center. Very common problem. Everything else works just the center has sagged from years of weight being placed on the burners. Some type of non flammable center support or independent isolated support for each burner. Funny all the info on the web yet no answer to this query. Yes I know I could be a patriot and buy a new chinese made stove with range but I would be a fool to think it would not go the same wsy.
Thanks for watching and commenting. Now that you mention it 🤔
I have noticed a few ranges do this.
Appliance crew 🤦🏻♂️ ground loops 👎
I wish you the best. Please know that your audio in this video really stinks. You've fallen prey to basic room reverb which makes you sound incompetent. If you're going to do a bunch of these videos, please get a personal/lapel mic and use it. Thanks and you're welcome.
Thanks for watching and commenting. I know all about the horrible sound. Hoping this year to upgrade to some new equipment.
You may criticize the sound quality, but there’s no way that alone can make this man sound incompetent. There are so many videos on YT with bad camera work and done in single takes, made by DIYers who are relying on common sense and then offering their advice and experience to the unaware who are flocking to YT hoping to find a video to help them do whatever task. This man’s competence and professionalism are immediately obvious, and the quality of his filming and camerawork is well above-average. I’ll gladly trade the poor sound quality for the several observations he made that will make my own installation easier and correct.