oops a couple viewers missed that :o IMO it was a good thing to see you get us a shot of it :) kinda tired of seeing just website pictures. so good of you to do a quick vid for us to see it. yeah the twist throttle is a great feature - try it as it will give you just enough to get along on the trails. [practice a bit & you will see how much better it is than the on n off switch] as for the loose stuff? a little practice & a little blue loctite helps. the seat post is just a thing you set to what feels best to you. snug enough to stay in the place that feels right for you. :) that ecells has some very helpful videos about those subjects.
Great review. I'm hoping if you get the extra rear battery installed, you will do some range tests. I wonder how much it will add to the range with the additional weight.
I feel like you're not tightening things enough (both the seat and quick release). I've already done 100 miles, and it hasn't moved a bit. If you watch the guy assembling the bike on Ecells channel, you can see he tightens the QR really firmly. My seat also came a little loose, but I tightened it really well, and it hasn't moved since. Thanks a lot for the video. GREAT first impression and thoughts on the bike... subscribed. Ignore the trolls.
You should do some better throttle control.. Like another person mentioned.. That on off throttle snap is very loud. Turn your wrist with the throttle instead of just letting it go.
I ordered this bike using your code for a discount. I signed up on their website and went to look for the status of my purchase and it states it is on hold. What does that mean? Is it on backorder? When I ordered it it was in stock. When I reached out to them I got no answer.
What type of resel value do you get with the ebike market, just wondering how they hold there value, thinking about a Hiboy P6 just to get my feet wet as I have never had an ebike, in my sixties I want to get out and ride ? Cheers from Canada !
wondering if it is easy to replace twist throttle with thumb throttle. I don't like that snap and crack noise like you have in your video twisting and snapping back.
Don't snap the throttle like he seems to do.. I have never snapped the throttle like he is doing on my bike. I turn it.. Yes it's annoying. It's picking up on his microphone very loud.. very annoying
Appreciate the honest first impression video! Seems like there's some issues but nothing that can't be easily fixed. I'm trying to decide if I'd like to add this bike to my growing ebike collection....yes it's a true addiction 😅. Looking forward to your full review. 👍
@ChrisCrossed gotcha thanks, I ordered mine end of April same color as yours just the 19" and with the saddle bags for extra $100 I can't wait to get it.
I posted this comment early. It's gonna be the wired green st for me. I just live the look vs this bike. Fit and finish seems a touch better too. Well now idk. The dual battery, dual crown forks now a $500 option. Hmmmm
Spec for Spec They are both very close to each other, i tried getting a Wired to review but they wouldnt even give me a discount even if I bought it and promised to review. So for me the answer is easy...buy an Ecells. They are more transparent from what I've seen when it comes to customers.
@@ChrisCrossed I know ecells discounted the 2nd battery asap in response to wired new deal but I have to see the st when they finally get some. Also will they be going to thru axles and get the other upgrades as well? I'm assuming it's all from the same supplier overseas. I'm a month or two out on my purchase. Waiting with baited breath 😂
@@ChrisCrossed oh my god. Really thank you for this information. I have sent them texts, emails, msgs about the proper date but they never replied me back
I am pretty frustrated with my first ECells shopping experience. I purchased mine when the site was still showing a May delivery date. I've now been contacted and told it will not arrive until June and that the Gates Belt Drive that I ordered did not make it onto my order. I am considering canning the order entirely and going with another company that can hopefully hold up their end of the bargain.
Confirmation. ECells not only missed the mark on the bikes that was ordered with Gates Belt Drives, but they are no longer going to offer them at all. Personally, I am done with this company.
@@ChrisCrossed Nope. They simply decided to not do the Gates Belt Drives. So if you purchased a bike with it, you won't be getting it. Just your money back for the part or cancel the order entirely. I asked if they will be adding them again in the future and the owner said no. So my April 14th order has now gone "poof" and I am missing out on the best riding time of the year.
Sorry to hear about that. I've been frustrated too. I did try buying their bike (import to my country) and because I had to ask for their IBAN/SWIFT codes (which is bank info needed to international purchases) to pay the guy shut me down and said he wasn't in the mood of selling. With that attitude I believe they don't really care about customer service, at least if you are a foreigner. Unfortunately I can't support E-cells anymore after that
I AM GETTING ONE DELIVERED TOMORROW I HAVE NO EXPERIENCE PUTTING ONE TOGETHER. HOW HARD ANY SPECIAL TOOLS NEEDED? ANY SPECIAL ADJUSTMENTS NEED TO BE MADE TO BE SAFE AND FUNCTIONAL? THX
He did properly flag the video as a paid promotion. Most e-bike CZcamsrs do not do that, for that I give Chris props for being clear. Great initial impressions of the bike. Kinda of stunned with the similarities between this class of e-bikes. Thanks for sharing.
It's the kickstand. That's why most mountain bikes don't have a kickstand. Noise and weight. I bungie cord mine to stop the clatter. I've been looking for years for a quite kickstand.
@@e-cells2222I hear it at 4:46 could be the seat, or his mic, hard to tell. But it's like something is loose. Either way I'm glad you're at the 2k mark now. Gonna sell alot! Thanks for the reply Dave.
@@e-cells2222 gee my favoto has a quiet stand as does mt Schwinn my sister huffy & another mongoose bike had rattling stands. just some do and some dont. If mine rattled? Id fix it or get another thats not loose
E CELLS FREE BASKET ONE THING NO ONE IS TELLING YOU AT LEAST NOT ME. THE FREE FRONT BASKET IS SHIPPED SEPARATE UP TO TWO WEEKS LATER. PLUS IT'S DIFFERENT THAN THE ONE YOU PAY FOR. THE ONE YOU PAY FOR HAS A BAG THIS ONE HAS NO BAG. IS THE QUALITY OF THE BASKET THE SAME??? THE LADY I TALKED TO WASN'T SURE PASS THE WORD!! BUMMER!!
Have to love it when 1-people have only negative things to say 2-people do not take the time to properly read . Even the title is set in BOLD print at the beginning of the video 😂
Hey buddy, you obviously don’t know anything. This is a well respected CZcamsr. It’s obvious you are just a troll and I’m pretty sure you do not have any bike cause you probably don’t even have a job.
This guy is a terrible reviewer. He doesn’t even have 10k followers. He is into getting CZcams numbers, Not doing a Quality Interviews but Quick Interviews so he can get out a couple videos a week to make CZcams Happy and Increase his Compensation. CZcams does not care about Quality Interviews. They just want videos with time so they can insert ads. Companies are Paying you by giving you a Free Bike. You own it to the them to do a Quality Interview, if you know how to do one. If Not, you are stealing from those companies. DUDE, YOU NEED TO UP YOUR GAME!!!
You read the thumbnail bro? its MY first impression of the ebike. Not a full review which I clearly state in the video. I was excited to get the bike so wanted to get my impressions in the first 24 hrs of ownership, no idea what you are complaining about.
he has almost 10k, real subs, not fake subs that some other "reviewers" have. If those fakes knew how to do real reviews they wouldn't have to buy subscribers and views. Its painfully obvious, and pathetic. Just check their social blade or vid IQ, more subs than views in one day? Randomly getting 100 subs deleted from their channel (because they were fake) and having almost as many subs as tailhappy while creating content nowhere near the same quality? wow.
E cells will not like this review and will ask you to remove it. They tolerate no criticism. The owner is a liar and convicted felon who started e cells while on home confinement after serving 11 years in Jail. He sold mobile homes before. Too bad e cells copied an obsolete design . The new Wired drivetrain puts out 1000 more watts and has better acceleration, hill climb, and top speed. The thru axle is much safer than that those used on e cells. The owner is lying about paying sales tax and will wind up in Jail. California is using AI to match ip Credit Catds and sales tax returns so let’s see how long it lasts. They offered a gates drive but didn’t add the expensive transmission to make it work. Same gear at 2mph as 40mph. E cells lied and said they have supply chain issues😂😂😂 Something smells rotten at e smells. Stay away from people with low ethics, your reputation is your greatest asset,
Yep e-cells have been using that fame for quite awhile now . As a matter of fact all frames have already been done . Competition is a must and customers get the benefits of that in better deals and more for there money . The difference in e-bikes comes down to the quality of parts used , speed , power , and customer service. In round 1 between e-cells and wired i far preferred e-cells as the total cost was a huge difference , i mean HUGE . And i hate that wired forces you to buy shipping insurance to ensure you get a damage free e-bike . I hate that strategy . Just package your items you sell really well . (Example juiced bikes) super packaging . When i order anything i expect to get that item to my doorstep undamaged . If damage the company makes it good . Nearly every company does not have any silly charge of shipping insurance . On the other hand brakes are seriously important on a fast moving, heavy e-bike . To me 203mm rotors are a must and e-cells tried saving a few cents and put on a smaller rotor on the rear . 203mm front and back should always be done . When you miss match you make it obvious you are trying to shave off little here, little there . Makes you question what else did a company go cheaper on . The motors to me on both are to loud . Likely because of the metal sided gears . You realize the metal heats up much more then the nylon gear eventually messing up the nylon part . A good quality motor has high quality gears that are professionally positioned , along with proper amounts of high quality grease to prevent wear . Then overall lower that high level noise . Round 2 - goes to wired even though the much higher price when you include tax, shipping, shipping insurance . 203mm front and back , more power , 2 batteries . Through axel in front , dual suspension in the step through . E-cells needs to fix there wire placement that runs along the rear shock . 203mm in the rear . Through axel , front tire . Then i would lean back to e-cells as i prefer a torque sensor . Any ways you have to love competition . These 2 companies are setting the bar for the $2000 price point . Heck these e-bikes are a better deal then even a few $3k-4k e-bikes
Don't believe what you telling is true, but I did try buying their bike (import to my country) and because I had to ask for their IBAN/SWIFT codes (which is bank info needed for international purchases) to pay the guy shut me down and said he wasn't in the mood of selling. So, yeah they don't really care about customer service if you are a foreigner, unfortunately. Can't support e-cells anymore after that
Just a reminder for new viewers this is not a full review, just my first impressions within the first 24 hrs. Full review is coming.
oops a couple viewers missed that :o
IMO it was a good thing to see you get us a shot of it :)
kinda tired of seeing just website pictures.
so good of you to do a quick vid for us to see it.
yeah the twist throttle is a great feature - try it as it will give you just enough to get along on the trails. [practice a bit & you will see how much better it is than the on n off switch]
as for the loose stuff? a little practice & a little blue loctite helps.
the seat post is just a thing you set to what feels best to you. snug enough to stay in the place that feels right for you. :)
that ecells has some very helpful videos about those subjects.
Great review. I'm hoping if you get the extra rear battery installed, you will do some range tests. I wonder how much it will add to the range with the additional weight.
It becomes a much heavier bike with rear battery so I will stick with one for now and see how far I can get with it
I've been very happy with my ecells . have fun ..
I feel like you're not tightening things enough (both the seat and quick release). I've already done 100 miles, and it hasn't moved a bit. If you watch the guy assembling the bike on Ecells channel, you can see he tightens the QR really firmly. My seat also came a little loose, but I tightened it really well, and it hasn't moved since.
Thanks a lot for the video. GREAT first impression and thoughts on the bike... subscribed. Ignore the trolls.
Thanks wil double check everything
Great video thanks
Cable management and chain stay slap guard would be nice.
Easy fixes
You should do some better throttle control.. Like another person mentioned.. That on off throttle snap is very loud. Turn your wrist with the throttle instead of just letting it go.
I ordered this bike using your code for a discount. I signed up on their website and went to look for the status of my purchase and it states it is on hold. What does that mean? Is it on backorder? When I ordered it it was in stock. When I reached out to them I got no answer.
Keep trying them, not sure why a hold
What type of resel value do you get with the ebike market, just wondering how they hold there value, thinking about a Hiboy P6 just to get my feet wet as I have never had an ebike, in my sixties I want to get out and ride ? Cheers from Canada !
Id say on average i get 60% of the retail price
@@ChrisCrossed Thank you !
Is this the matte black frame with matte black wheels?
Yes
wondering if it is easy to replace twist throttle with thumb throttle. I don't like that snap and crack noise like you have in your video twisting and snapping back.
yes its a pretty easy swap that i have dont before on a few ebikes
Don't snap the throttle like he seems to do.. I have never snapped the throttle like he is doing on my bike. I turn it.. Yes it's annoying. It's picking up on his microphone very loud.. very annoying
Chris, did you add the chain slap guard? if so, where do i find it?
Yeah ill be doing an accessory video soo but heres what I got amzn.to/3WVCDf2
@@ChrisCrossed awesome thanks Chris
Appreciate the honest first impression video! Seems like there's some issues but nothing that can't be easily fixed. I'm trying to decide if I'd like to add this bike to my growing ebike collection....yes it's a true addiction 😅. Looking forward to your full review. 👍
Thx for watching
How long did it take for shipping since the day you ordered it?
Takes about 5 days or so once FedEx picks it up in Nevada
@ChrisCrossed no I meant since the day u made the order. They told me 70 days but I'm hoping I'll get it before lol
@@alejandrovelez8840 I ended up getting a canceled order so not typical
@ChrisCrossed gotcha thanks, I ordered mine end of April same color as yours just the 19" and with the saddle bags for extra $100 I can't wait to get it.
Question, wired 2 battery st. Or ecells st. I'm torn. What is really better? Love the green wired st. What do you all think?
I posted this comment early. It's gonna be the wired green st for me. I just live the look vs this bike. Fit and finish seems a touch better too.
Well now idk. The dual battery, dual crown forks now a $500 option. Hmmmm
Get a DUAL CROWN fork. Dual battery, TEKTRO FOUR PISTON brakes Ecells DUAL STAR option..
Spec for Spec They are both very close to each other, i tried getting a Wired to review but they wouldnt even give me a discount even if I bought it and promised to review. So for me the answer is easy...buy an Ecells. They are more transparent from what I've seen when it comes to customers.
@@ChrisCrossed I know ecells discounted the 2nd battery asap in response to wired new deal but I have to see the st when they finally get some. Also will they be going to thru axles and get the other upgrades as well? I'm assuming it's all from the same supplier overseas. I'm a month or two out on my purchase. Waiting with baited breath 😂
Why buy last years underpowered clone?
So what all do you get for the base price ?
You get the stock bike with cadence sensor, single battery, standard tires etc
Lol, That military drummer music.....❤👍
Definitely I wanted to honor the general!
Nice, David sent you a 5-star! 👍
Epic
I ordered E-Cells five star on 7th May 2024, 3 weeks ago. Still haven't received it. What is the time period to get this e-bike?
I think it’s takes about 6 weeks
@@ChrisCrossed oh my god. Really thank you for this information. I have sent them texts, emails, msgs about the proper date but they never replied me back
Did you order the 17" frame?
yep
How tall are you Chris?
@@Gary_Snook six feet
I am pretty frustrated with my first ECells shopping experience. I purchased mine when the site was still showing a May delivery date. I've now been contacted and told it will not arrive until June and that the Gates Belt Drive that I ordered did not make it onto my order. I am considering canning the order entirely and going with another company that can hopefully hold up their end of the bargain.
Confirmation. ECells not only missed the mark on the bikes that was ordered with Gates Belt Drives, but they are no longer going to offer them at all. Personally, I am done with this company.
Sorry to hear that, I’m sure they’ll make good.
@@ChrisCrossed Nope. They simply decided to not do the Gates Belt Drives. So if you purchased a bike with it, you won't be getting it. Just your money back for the part or cancel the order entirely. I asked if they will be adding them again in the future and the owner said no. So my April 14th order has now gone "poof" and I am missing out on the best riding time of the year.
Sorry to hear about that. I've been frustrated too. I did try buying their bike (import to my country) and because I had to ask for their IBAN/SWIFT codes (which is bank info needed to international purchases) to pay the guy shut me down and said he wasn't in the mood of selling. With that attitude I believe they don't really care about customer service, at least if you are a foreigner. Unfortunately I can't support E-cells anymore after that
@@JnaathraCheck out the eahora romeo pro 2. Or romeo 2. Dual motor. 45mph +. Looks super awesome
Great general overview video!
More to come!
great video man, thanks for the shoutout! Looking forward to seeing more of your videos on this bike.
Absolutely bro #ecellsbrothers
I AM GETTING ONE DELIVERED TOMORROW I HAVE NO EXPERIENCE PUTTING ONE TOGETHER. HOW HARD ANY SPECIAL TOOLS NEEDED? ANY SPECIAL ADJUSTMENTS NEED TO BE MADE TO BE SAFE AND FUNCTIONAL? THX
Ecells channel has a great assembly video, look for it
@@ChrisCrossed I DON'T KNOW HOW TO ACCESS THEIR CHANNEL DIDN'T KNOW THEY HAD ONE. TELL ME.
@@DEVILDOG1964 heres the vid czcams.com/video/sqiDe3-pqNg/video.htmlsi=viv41qywarPYapAf
@@ChrisCrossed THANK YOU GOT IT!!
SEMPER FI!
How much did you pay for the bike out the door?
its stock, so it costs $1,895 if you use code CCR100
He Dud Not Pay for the bike. He avoided your question stating the price. It was given to him by E-Cells in turn for him doing a CZcams Video Review.
He did properly flag the video as a paid promotion. Most e-bike CZcamsrs do not do that, for that I give Chris props for being clear. Great initial impressions of the bike. Kinda of stunned with the similarities between this class of e-bikes. Thanks for sharing.
@@KenPurcell thanks 🙏
I enjoyed the video, looking forward to more updates.
Thanks for watching!
It definitely needs a thru-axle for the front wheel.
Bruh, feather the gas
Sometimes you just gotta gun it!
Bruh, feather the electrons ... FIFY
The suspension, or whatever noise it makes is kinda annoying. Hard to tell what it is
It's the kickstand. That's why most mountain bikes don't have a kickstand. Noise and weight. I bungie cord mine to stop the clatter. I've been looking for years for a quite kickstand.
@@e-cells2222I hear it at 4:46 could be the seat, or his mic, hard to tell. But it's like something is loose. Either way I'm glad you're at the 2k mark now. Gonna sell alot! Thanks for the reply Dave.
@@e-cells2222 gee my favoto has a quiet stand as does mt Schwinn my sister huffy & another mongoose bike had rattling stands. just some do and some dont.
If mine rattled? Id fix it or get another thats not loose
@@e-cells2222 could be the chain slapping the frame too. Recommend getting a chain guard that wraps around the frame. Save your paint as well.
E CELLS FREE BASKET ONE THING NO ONE IS TELLING YOU AT LEAST NOT ME. THE FREE FRONT BASKET IS SHIPPED SEPARATE UP TO TWO WEEKS LATER. PLUS IT'S DIFFERENT THAN THE ONE YOU PAY FOR. THE ONE YOU PAY FOR HAS A BAG THIS ONE HAS NO BAG. IS THE QUALITY OF THE BASKET THE SAME??? THE LADY I TALKED TO WASN'T SURE PASS THE WORD!! BUMMER!!
i did get a basket seperately but doubt i will use it
Stop releasing the throttle so fast bro that click is annoying!
Snap, crackle, pop!
Dude, you should cancel this video and redo it, conducting the Review the way it should be done. And do not do the review unless you are prepared.
What are you talking about? He clearly states this isn't a review and it's just a first impressions video.
Its NOT a review, its my first impression of the bike. I will be doing a full review after a few weeks. Did you not read the thumbnail?
Have to love it when 1-people have only negative things to say 2-people do not take the time to properly read . Even the title is set in BOLD print at the beginning of the video 😂
Great vid, thanks for sharing
Hey buddy, you obviously don’t know anything. This is a well respected CZcamsr. It’s obvious you are just a troll and I’m pretty sure you do not have any bike cause you probably don’t even have a job.
This guy is a terrible reviewer. He doesn’t even have 10k followers. He is into getting CZcams numbers, Not doing a Quality Interviews but Quick Interviews so he can get out a couple videos a week to make CZcams Happy and Increase his Compensation. CZcams does not care about Quality Interviews. They just want videos with time so they can insert ads.
Companies are Paying you by giving you a Free Bike. You own it to the them to do a Quality Interview, if you know how to do one. If Not, you are stealing from those companies.
DUDE, YOU NEED TO UP YOUR GAME!!!
THEN STAY OFF WE DON'T NEED A SOURPUSS CRITIC!! ANOTHER USER!! DIME A DOZEN!!
You read the thumbnail bro? its MY first impression of the ebike. Not a full review which I clearly state in the video. I was excited to get the bike so wanted to get my impressions in the first 24 hrs of ownership, no idea what you are complaining about.
@@DEVILDOG1964 exactly, thanks for the backup
@@ChrisCrossed
Gotta get those CZcams Numbers up!!!
Your doing a disservice to your clients!!
he has almost 10k, real subs, not fake subs that some other "reviewers" have. If those fakes knew how to do real reviews they wouldn't have to buy subscribers and views. Its painfully obvious, and pathetic. Just check their social blade or vid IQ, more subs than views in one day? Randomly getting 100 subs deleted from their channel (because they were fake) and having almost as many subs as tailhappy while creating content nowhere near the same quality? wow.
E cells will not like this review and will ask you to remove it. They tolerate no criticism. The owner is a liar and convicted felon who started e cells while on home confinement after serving 11 years in Jail. He sold mobile homes before.
Too bad e cells copied an obsolete design . The new Wired drivetrain puts out 1000 more watts and has better acceleration, hill climb, and top speed. The thru axle is much safer than that those used on e cells. The owner is lying about paying sales tax and will wind up in Jail. California is using AI to match ip Credit Catds and sales tax returns so let’s see how long it lasts. They offered a gates drive but didn’t add the expensive transmission to make it work. Same gear at 2mph as 40mph. E cells lied and said they have supply chain issues😂😂😂
Something smells rotten at e smells. Stay away from people with low ethics, your reputation is your greatest asset,
Who copied what exactly? Wired copied Ecells frame. Ecells has been using that frame for 5 years. What else?
Who left the door open and let The Chicago Fly in???
Yep e-cells have been using that fame for quite awhile now . As a matter of fact all frames have already been done . Competition is a must and customers get the benefits of that in better deals and more for there money . The difference in e-bikes comes down to the quality of parts used , speed , power , and customer service. In round 1 between e-cells and wired i far preferred e-cells as the total cost was a huge difference , i mean HUGE . And i hate that wired forces you to buy shipping insurance to ensure you get a damage free e-bike . I hate that strategy . Just package your items you sell really well . (Example juiced bikes) super packaging . When i order anything i expect to get that item to my doorstep undamaged . If damage the company makes it good . Nearly every company does not have any silly charge of shipping insurance . On the other hand brakes are seriously important on a fast moving, heavy e-bike . To me 203mm rotors are a must and e-cells tried saving a few cents and put on a smaller rotor on the rear . 203mm front and back should always be done . When you miss match you make it obvious you are trying to shave off little here, little there . Makes you question what else did a company go cheaper on . The motors to me on both are to loud . Likely because of the metal sided gears . You realize the metal heats up much more then the nylon gear eventually messing up the nylon part . A good quality motor has high quality gears that are professionally positioned , along with proper amounts of high quality grease to prevent wear . Then overall lower that high level noise .
Round 2 - goes to wired even though the much higher price when you include tax, shipping, shipping insurance . 203mm front and back , more power , 2 batteries . Through axel in front , dual suspension in the step through . E-cells needs to fix there wire placement that runs along the rear shock . 203mm in the rear . Through axel , front tire . Then i would lean back to e-cells as i prefer a torque sensor . Any ways you have to love competition . These 2 companies are setting the bar for the $2000 price point . Heck these e-bikes are a better deal then even a few $3k-4k e-bikes
Ok Hater, move along
Don't believe what you telling is true, but I did try buying their bike (import to my country) and because I had to ask for their IBAN/SWIFT codes (which is bank info needed for international purchases) to pay the guy shut me down and said he wasn't in the mood of selling. So, yeah they don't really care about customer service if you are a foreigner, unfortunately. Can't support e-cells anymore after that