A rant about counterfeits, I'm fed up with the justifing.😡

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  • čas přidán 16. 02. 2024

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  • @lucyszoocrew6037
    @lucyszoocrew6037 Před 5 měsíci +9

    None of us that have replicas have EVER even remotely tried to pass them off as art. We acknowledge they are replicas and some of us ALOT of us actually have BOTH. I have replicas yes. Why? Because I have severe C-PTSD with conversion which disabled my knees and hips and require crutches for walking when it hits. I use the babies to keep me calm and some days I cry a lot I'm not ashamed of that but I don't want to ruin my beautiful expensive art on those days and prefer a replica since they don't cost thousands of dollars. I understand completely where the artist are coming from I do, but I also stand by my decision. Also just because I have both doesn't mean I would bring a replica to an authentic doll show because yes that would be wrong but as having both I would still like the opportunity to see an authentic doll show because I still purchase those as well. I think there's too much blame from both sides of the issue and not near enough understanding. Block me whatever It don't bother me but I stand by my decisions

  • @tinafowee
    @tinafowee Před 5 měsíci +18

    It is absolutely wrong the way people are dog piled on though. You can't say that isn't bullying.

    • @RebornHygge
      @RebornHygge Před 5 měsíci +5

      I disagree that people with counterfeits have been “dog piled on”. I think it’s the other way around.

    • @tinafowee
      @tinafowee Před 5 měsíci +1

      @@RebornHygge clearly we haven't been seeing the same groups. Good to know that it isn't going on everywhere.

  • @curvytalia
    @curvytalia Před 5 měsíci +25

    take a breather and chill out we are talking about DOLLS here its not that serious geez omg worse things going on in the world to be concerned about

    • @tinafowee
      @tinafowee Před 5 měsíci +6

      Thank you I only paint and sell authentic but I'm so sick of the preaching, lecturing and down talking. The simple fact is that the artists pay the correct fees and do the correct paperwork in China China will not be doing the replicas. I heard an artist say rather a sculptor say that if they paid the fees for every dollar that they made and did the paperwork it would cost them too much money. There are any number of places where these dolls could be recreated where they wouldn't be copied as they are in China but the artists are choosing not to have them done there for the very reason that you mentioned cheap labor

  • @desisbohoflamingo9313
    @desisbohoflamingo9313 Před 5 měsíci +10

    My first reborn doll was in 2003 from Pumpkin patch babies by Johanna her Myles I paid 250 I believe, and back then we all were reborning before even having a rooting tool 😂 let me tell you there wasn't any insanity going on !!!! Nobody cared where the kit came from lmao everyone was having a good time! Now 5 years ago I reborned maybe 😊💯 dolls and I stopped...you know why ?! Cause what they say is a Doll community is actually a loo loo train 😂😂😂😂 I'm off that train!!! I enjoy ALL dolls I do them for myself! I'd be honored one day to afford Stephanie Ortiz dolls I love they're Style and her and Jackie are So Good Vibe folks... You should take a pointer from her #alldollsmatter #dollysistersunited ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤ So bless your heart christian lady😂

  • @myinterestgalore4664
    @myinterestgalore4664 Před 5 měsíci +10

    It's ok to stand up for your beliefs but what is not ok is the bullying name calling,telling people not to be friends with people who have replicas.I hate the sculptors are going through this as well but if you want to protect your work pay your fees &their work has to go to a manufacturer to be made so it is what it is...Just stop the bullying bs

    • @letsplaydolls1287
      @letsplaydolls1287  Před 5 měsíci +1

      Hello there, I haven't called anyone names? Bullying is not okay and I don't believe that me standing up for my beliefs is "bullying" as I'm not doing any name calling or naming anyone personally.

    • @myinterestgalore4664
      @myinterestgalore4664 Před 5 měsíci

      @letsplaydolls1287
      You definitely have the right to voice how you feel but the other's that feel like you do are taking it way to far by name calling&cursing people out.I heard you name call on a live Thursday night but not the names other's get thrown at them.Its a way to talk to people¬ at them

    • @letsplaydolls1287
      @letsplaydolls1287  Před 5 měsíci +1

      @myinterestgalore4664 I was NEVER live lol Thursday night I was even very busy no way for me to even be live so it must have been someone else. I also have not name called or cursed anyone out. I honestly don't know what your talking about as I was never live. My videos where I talk about my opinion are on my channel and I don't even mention anyone. Please stop spreading the rumor that I was Live or that I cursed at people.

    • @myinterestgalore4664
      @myinterestgalore4664 Před 5 měsíci

      @letsplaydolls1287
      I never said you cursed at nobody that's what other's have been doing.You were on Mj live calling people rotten apples but it's ok I just said the bullying needs to stop I don't hate I just don't think people need to get this type of treatment over a doll

  • @kittymalone4343
    @kittymalone4343 Před 4 měsíci +1

    I agree completely. I saw in a comment section somewhere that someone said artists should be flattered that people want to copy their sculptures. Ok, by that logic, if someone breaks into your home and steals your stuff, you should be flattered that they want your stuff. Give me a break. It’s stealing. Why are we condoning stealing? I don’t wanna hear about not having money or being less fortunate. I was broke as hell when I entered this hobby, and I saved up to purchase my first reborn. I can’t believe so many people are supporting theft from our wonderful artists. It’s disgusting. The entitlement these days is insane.

  • @august3744
    @august3744 Před 3 měsíci

    I’ll be completely honest. I’m new to reborns and only found out about how manufactured dolls are made after I got one off Amazon. Since I couldn’t afford a proper thousands dollar doll. I will still keep her because I still love her. BUT my second doll I purchased recently I got from an artist on Etsy. He was about £100 and not good quality but at least he isn’t stolen. I’m disabled and on benefits so I would NEVER be able to afford a really nice real reborn but it’s a massive dream I have. It’ll never come true so I just watch big reborn accounts to try and live my dream through videos

  • @mummylilbear6088
    @mummylilbear6088 Před měsícem

    I got scammed and ended with a fake reborn. It took months to get my money back

  • @marygrummer9189
    @marygrummer9189 Před 5 měsíci +8

    You’re hilarious! 😅. Nobody cares what you think, hon.

  • @TrinaMarino-gq9tb
    @TrinaMarino-gq9tb Před 18 dny

    Mine smells like baby powder and have the same Arts names . And look like the real ones .

  • @allmytinywondersnursery180
    @allmytinywondersnursery180 Před 5 měsíci +2

    Seena should be banned from CZcams for her instigating remarks and her bullying. I followed her from her first video and then she started bashing artists and sculptors and grading box openings even when she bought from a private collector. Saying she was throwing this and that in the trash. I guess only baby salon clothes good enough for her dolls. I unfollowed her and blocked her on all platforms. Every one that follows her are lemmings. It was already bad in this community and she just stirred it up more. But she states she only buys authentic well what is Walter?

  • @NinasLittleWhimsytoes
    @NinasLittleWhimsytoes Před 5 měsíci +2

    This DOTWE show is the only one that actually banned PEOPLE not just dolls. Yes, I agree that no one should bring a counterfeit doll to the show but to ban PEOPLE is wrong. If they bring a counterfeit doll then ban the doll but not the PERSON. Love the "sinner" but not the "sin", isn't that what you Christians are always saying? If the "sin" is the counterfeit doll and the "sinner" is the person supporting them, then go ahead, ban the doll but not the PERSON. Also, I really wish religion wasn't mentioned in doll videos. Not all of us believe the same. Lets just concentrate on the dolls. That's what we are here for.

  • @TrinaMarino-gq9tb
    @TrinaMarino-gq9tb Před 18 dny

    Don't rightly care mind your own Dame! Bessnis I have both! Love them all

  • @ourcherishedcherubs
    @ourcherishedcherubs Před 5 měsíci +7

    I don’t agree with artists sculpts being stolen it must be heartbreaking to have your work stolen 😢 but my question is how are china getting hold of the sculpts in the first place Are these artists sending their sculpts to china to be made? I live in the uk 🇬🇧 and we have a doll shop called Mary Shortle and they get their sculpts from Germany but as far as I’m aware they are not stolen sculpts Why are only some sculpts copied? It must mean that some of the artists are protecting their work and a lot are not it is a shame this division has happened 😢 I don’t know what we can do about it it’s a sad situation all round really isn’t it? Beautiful baby ❤💕♥️

    • @letsplaydolls1287
      @letsplaydolls1287  Před 5 měsíci +1

      I will do some research and asking around and get back with you on these good questions. It is heartbreaking what is happening to the doll sculptors and I lm sure they have alot of unanswered questions too. Thanks for watching 🌷

    • @tinafowee
      @tinafowee Před 5 měsíci +8

      China is not obligated to obey international treaties or agreements related to trademarks what sculptors need to do to protect their work in China is to pay the proper fees that the Chinese government calls for and fill out the proper paperwork for each sculpt. Sculptors have went on record as saying it would be very expensive for them to do that. While I understand that and I only purchase paint and sell authentic I also feel the problem can be eliminated if they just pay the fees. Also here's another idea stop outsourcing the making of the molds to china. There are any number of developed countries that can actually make molds for the dolls that they sculpt. The bottom line is they want to pay less to get them made so they run the risk of theft is they don't fill out the proper paper work and pay the fees to China.

    • @MyLittleWorldReborns
      @MyLittleWorldReborns Před 5 měsíci +3

      The problem with counterfeits is not only China unfortunately. Spain and Brazil have their own factories that manufacture a lot of counterfeit kits as well.
      At this point it doesn’t even matter where original kits are being manufactured. Counterfeiters will steal kits created in Germany and Spain as well. It’s just so horrible 😔.

    • @myinterestgalore4664
      @myinterestgalore4664 Před 5 měsíci +2

      Great question&she is very delusional with this video&I heard her on a live say that she was being hateful&she said all dolls matter is bs&she basically was calling people names.If I was in her face or any of the keyboard bullies she wouldn't have said jack

    • @letsplaydolls1287
      @letsplaydolls1287  Před 5 měsíci

      @myinterestgalore4664 Hello I have not been on a live and I havent called anyone names. Please do not spread rumors. Just because I have a difference in opinion doesn't mean that's being a "bully". Have a good weekend. 🌷

  • @MothersLovingArmsNursery
    @MothersLovingArmsNursery Před 4 měsíci +1

    Oh I love that chicken outfit. it looks so darling.

  • @patriciasrebornbabies2786
    @patriciasrebornbabies2786 Před 5 měsíci +2

    ❤❤❤

  • @allmytinywondersnursery180
    @allmytinywondersnursery180 Před 5 měsíci +4

    All I am gonna say is you don’t want to spend the money, buy a blank kit for 120.00 paint it yourself. That is how I got into painting. A bountiful baby kit on sale for 29.00. So please no excuses for buying fake dolls. And he looks adorable in that outfit

    • @cjribeiro7485
      @cjribeiro7485 Před 5 měsíci +1

      My budget can not afford so mucth money for a reborn kit .And than i talk only the kit and what comes on with it .
      So for me they are good and they hold the paint wel
      Every one there own choice if i had that money but i have not

    • @mummylilbear6088
      @mummylilbear6088 Před měsícem

      @@cjribeiro7485you don’t have to spend lots. I got a reborn cheap from someone that got a new reborn so I paid for her old one for $150 she wanted a fast sale.

  • @mummylilbear6088
    @mummylilbear6088 Před měsícem

    Aww so cute

  • @creativejoy
    @creativejoy Před 5 měsíci +6

    I have an artistic family, my grandpa drew homes for people and my mom created clay figures of unicorns, wizards, etc. She went to many Art shows where everything was hand created. Department stores started selling cheap merchandise, all mass produced and it caused artists to quit creating their beautiful oil paintings, crocheted projects, flower arrangements and woodworking projects. This will happen soon to our sculptors with these companies taking over. 😢 There are payment plans that artists provide to allow someone to own a beautiful doll. I agree 100% with what you are saying. 💐

    • @letsplaydolls1287
      @letsplaydolls1287  Před 5 měsíci +1

      Thank you for sharing your knowledge and experience. My fear is that this is happening to our doll community. Thank you for your love and support. You are so right there are authentic options for those on a budget and many people do payment plans.

  • @desisbohoflamingo9313
    @desisbohoflamingo9313 Před 5 měsíci +8

    I've been involved in the doll community before you even thought about dolls !!!! You are speaking about a doll your vocal pattern and words tell me your under doctors care maybe??? 😂😂😂

  • @RebornHuggles
    @RebornHuggles Před 5 měsíci +8

    I agree 💯% my collection is only authentic and every video I do I say the sculpt name and sculpter also the artist! Love your little guy he is beautiful! Its sad that these people are hurting our beautiful hobby our talented sculpters . Sending hugs your way❤

    • @letsplaydolls1287
      @letsplaydolls1287  Před 5 měsíci +2

      Thank you 😊 Toby is a dream to hold, he's very wonderful. This is a very sad time in our community, I've never seen it this bad where there's just flat out disrespect for the art and mocking of sculptors. Trying to stay positive is so hard. Thanks for supporting Authentic art. 🌷

    • @RebornHuggles
      @RebornHuggles Před 5 měsíci +2

      @@letsplaydolls1287 it is so sad . Such disrespect. I love your sculpts and I pray one day people start supporting instead of breaking our art work. I would love to paint a sculpted by you.

  • @anne-mayslovelyplace
    @anne-mayslovelyplace Před 5 měsíci +4

    Hi Melissa 🙋🏼‍♀️💜,
    Your Toby is so sweet and that outfit is beautiful on him for sure ❣️🥰❤️👶🏻💕
    How good that you make the connection with what's in Scripture.
    'Cause that's my whole issue in this situation too... You cannot turn bad into good, and the other way around, but the whole world tries to do that...😰 You see that every day in the news report...
    And it will destroy this world...
    Only Jesus can safe this world.🙏🏻🙌🏻
    You are not ugly at all; you try to protect beautiful artists and their artwork.💞🤗💕
    The comparison with generic medicine is absolutely no comparison, because those medications were officially released after so many years.
    You know, after all, every material situation, everything, every choice we make, is also 'spiritual' for God. You cannot seperate what you do from what you believe. That's the problem, we think we can seperate that from eachother, but we cannot. God sees our heart, our motivations, and we all have to give accountability for our choices. That's why I want to make the right choice.
    But I cannot choose for others...
    We all have to make our own choices.
    I love my Lord and Saviour, and I need Him every day for His grace and mercy. I'm not perfect either.
    But as sisters in Christ we have to encourage eachother to keep walking on the narrow path, standing up for the oppressed, and in this situation the artists are the 'oppressed', the aggrieved, I think...
    Thanks for sharing what's in your heart 💖.
    I hope and pray you will get your joy in this hobby back. Don't let anyone steal your joy away from you.
    I'll pray for you that you will find your happiness again.🙏🏻
    Wishing you many blessings 💕🙌🏻💖.
    With love 😘, Annette

    • @letsplaydolls1287
      @letsplaydolls1287  Před 5 měsíci +2

      Thank you so so much for this beautiful comment and for truly looking at my heart. I appreciate you and your channel. Hugs and blessings ❤

    • @anne-mayslovelyplace
      @anne-mayslovelyplace Před 5 měsíci +1

      @@letsplaydolls1287 Hi Melissa, Yo'ure very welcome. I do appreciate your honesty and sharing how you think about everything. Sending you big hugs🤗, Annette

  • @kittymalone4343
    @kittymalone4343 Před 4 měsíci +1

    And God does care. “Thou shalt not steal.” I’m Jewish, and the Torah explicitly says not to steal.

  • @Dollsandteenythings
    @Dollsandteenythings Před 5 měsíci +4

    He’s super cute Melissa!😊❤🎉

  • @kathleenklein4231
    @kathleenklein4231 Před 5 měsíci +1

    Listening to you is making me glad I am Jewish.

    • @kittymalone4343
      @kittymalone4343 Před 4 měsíci

      I’m Jewish too, and the Torah says not to steal.

    • @kathleenklein4231
      @kathleenklein4231 Před 4 měsíci +1

      @@kittymalone4343 As I remember we are also taught to have loving kindness toward others (chesed). Also, Hillel: "Don't judge your fellow human being until you have reached that person's place." -commentaries in the Pirkei Avot . No bullying! Isn't so fun when people start shoving scriptures down your throat?

  • @scleroangelmom
    @scleroangelmom Před 5 měsíci +5

    You are wise beyound years and I 100% agree with you!!! I only collect authentic and I am a artist and only paint authentic!!! Until I can afford a authentic Bonnie Brown myself I will continue to admire my friends and others who have beautiful authentic ones. My heart goes out to Bonnie Brown and other sculptors like her. I don't make videos but do have a instagram. Right now a lot in my life wirh my mom's health but so agree with you, love and God Bless❤️🙏🏻❤️

    • @letsplaydolls1287
      @letsplaydolls1287  Před 5 měsíci +2

      Thank you for watching, for your comment, and your love for authentic real art 🩷🌷🩷 Hugs and God bless.

    • @scleroangelmom
      @scleroangelmom Před 5 měsíci +2

      @@letsplaydolls1287 you are so welcome..oh, I have watched you a long time love your sweet babies and videos may not comment much but watch as often as I can. Again, agree with you..I do not bully as I know you don't you are so sweet just stating how you feel, big hugs❤️🙏🏻🙏🏻

  • @TrinaMarino-gq9tb
    @TrinaMarino-gq9tb Před 18 dny

    Your 100 per cent wrong about that there hand panted any way mine actually yes I did get some real sculpt off Amizon .

  • @TrinaMarino-gq9tb
    @TrinaMarino-gq9tb Před 18 dny

    You decently don't have our show the fruit of the Spirt little girl .

  • @TrinaMarino-gq9tb
    @TrinaMarino-gq9tb Před 18 dny

    Who's stilling? I payed for mine.

    • @letsplaydolls1287
      @letsplaydolls1287  Před 18 dny

      If you buy a knockoff you paid to thieves and are supporting the stealing of an individuals artwork. Counterfeit dolls should not exist. I will bring God into it because my Bible teaches that stealing is wrong so that must mean supporting theft is wrong as well. I'm not perfect and don't claim to be but I'm allowed free speech and to stand up for what I believe in and what is right. Just because we disagree doesn't mean I'm "bullying" or "hate someone"
      If your budget doesn't accommodate a Reborn there are Authentic affordable options like Ashton Drake Galleries and Paradise Galleries those two companies actually pay the sculptors and have the right to produce the dolls. 🌺 You can also type your budget into reborns.com and find authentic reborns in your price range. Sculptors work hard on their art some kits take them years to sculpt and they deserve to get paid for their time.

  • @daniel-carolynclay5320
    @daniel-carolynclay5320 Před 5 měsíci +4

    👏👏👏👏👏👏
    We!l said, my friend.
    💞💖💞 Carolyn

  • @cynthiapulis1267
    @cynthiapulis1267 Před 5 měsíci +2

    Hi dear this boy is nicely painted!! I gave his sister but painted by kimberly ! Yee I m always worried about how cold she feels I ll be scared about the silicone! Yee 😢 lately I found out that macphersons make the reborn dolls at China!! It's written on their website on pickle by Nikki Johston saying that they are waiting for new sculpt coming from China by March !!! That worried me soo much !! As we pay soo much to but a kit and they get it soo much cheap !! That's why they have damages at times and these macphersons art and craft never answers e mails complains 😢 I gave bad experience with them when I bought kodi bear kit and Rosalee kit both had damages 😢 they costed hundreds of euros to buy them plus shipping plus custums taxes 😢.China is taking over trusted expensive companies !!!😢

  • @patriciasdollydreamz6569
    @patriciasdollydreamz6569 Před 5 měsíci +4

    ❤❤❤❤

  • @andrealynn8893
    @andrealynn8893 Před 5 měsíci +1

    Ewe

  • @ashrpblond
    @ashrpblond Před 5 měsíci +6

    i agree with you 100% . i have to say i was really surprised that inlovewithreborns2011 is in that whole united sisters or whatever it is called. i hate when they say its a copy or a replica and there not the artist did not give them permission to do it..i reborn vinyl dolls i have done about 200 over 10 years and have painted a few silicones and i have tried to sculpt before but i just can't get the sculpting down at all its hard and for someone to steal them is so wrong then come on and brag that they paint them. not everyone was intended to have an expensive silicone and if you cna't afford a real one then you don't get one

    • @letsplaydolls1287
      @letsplaydolls1287  Před 5 měsíci +1

      Very well said 👏🏻 We don't always get everything we want in life and that's okay and healthy. Thank you for comment. 🌷Hugs

  • @sashasreborns3417
    @sashasreborns3417 Před 5 měsíci

    Loved it

  • @TrinaMarino-gq9tb
    @TrinaMarino-gq9tb Před 18 dny

    You got a lot of Nerve comparing God to the so called dolly would you need help!

  • @elainebassett9553
    @elainebassett9553 Před 5 měsíci +1

    O stop moaning,