Shannon Sharpe grades the first half of Lonzo Ball's rookie season | UNDISPUTED
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- Shannon Sharpe and Skip Bayless talk Los Angeles PG Lonzo Ball. Will the Lakers rookie have an impressive second half of this NBA season?
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Shannon Sharpe grades the first half of Lonzo Ball's rookie season | UNDISPUTED
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What do you think about Lonzo's rookie season so far?
Skip and Shannon: UNDISPUTED C-
He’s having a solid rookie year. He’s a rookie, he has so much time to grow
He gets an F!!! Kobe,KG and LeBron had more pressure they were straight outta High School!!!
Skip and Shannon: UNDISPUTED D+
Skip and Shannon: UNDISPUTED c-
I'll give him a BBB+
Yo Mammas Boo BBB positive
😂😂😂 stop stealing demarvelous derozan joke u fraud
That was funny.
Yo Mammas Boo does BBB means Big Baller Bust?
I'll give him a BBC tbh
I'm going to give Lonzo a C thus far, but he can be really good, even great, but only time will tell.
AMAX yeah C is fair. Slow start but was picking it up. Def needs to practice his shoot though
AMAX i still dont see it i never knocked dude as a player i think he will be a good defender good passer but i dont understand this "great" or "transcended" talk i just don't lol
Cmon man you really think he can be great?? You even watching lakers games? Yes I’m a laker fan...but I’m a realist first.
D+
C is very fair but I do not believe he will be a grade A player. I hope he can be as good as Anfernee Hardway who was another tall PG.
I’m confused on why they never mention his last 17 games where he was shooting 45% from the field and 39% from three while avg 14/7/7
Because it was a fluke
Well, it's not like they watch an entire bball game that isn't mainstream....they are clueless
Because he played more then 17 games
because he played way more games than 17
Exactly, their grading the first half NOT 17 games..
Why are they having whole segments on Lonzo instead of Sean Lee??
Emmpeccable Eats damm queen your gorgeous
Why him???
who is that?
Because nobody knows him?
Why not a segment on cookies and milk?
I never thought I'd agree with Skip over Shannon smh
Lonzo having a C+ at best right now but he will be an A type player in the future he has so many unteachable things he does you can tell his IQ is insane for his age an 10,7,7 for a rookie aint no damn D if that was any other rookie people would give him at least the a C
Super saiyan Cabby28 in 2018 your starting PG has to be a scorer as well as a good Passet
A Trap no bruh an on top of that lonzo will average at least 15-20 while giving you near double digits in rebounds an assists
Those stars would be a C for a rookie that plays 20-25 minutes. Not leading his team in minutes when he played
Super saiyan Cabby28 great comment
Super saiyan Cabby28 agreed
Why are u comparing a rookie to LeBron give the man time
everyone was comparing Lebron to MJ since he was in high school...it comes with the territory when people are calling someone a "transcendent" player
nba 2kking lebrons rookie season had way more pressure placed on it and he was infinitely better as a rookie on a worse team. You can’t say (skip says) “he has had the highest degree of difficulty” when bron literally was called the chosen one from the very being. If bron in his rookie year played like Lonzo has played it would have been called an F.
nba 2kking they basically had the same level of expectations rookie year so yeah it’s fair
Vintage Monte we were watching Lebron in his Senior Year thinking he’s gonna be special , Lonzo had way less pressure
Lonzo’s Dad is the one who is comparing him to the greats
I give him a C- based on his rebounds, assists, and inconsistencies, and because he missed six weeks so it isn't fair to grade him completely after missing a ton of games.
I give him a B because he is averaging 7 rebs and 7 ast as a rookie. Once his shot start falling I don't want to see you haters no more.
Folesadelphia, Wentzsylvania I agree
^ This. It's seriously ridiculous people will point out players and say "They impact the game in other ways besides scoring" not only is he getting 7 rebs and 7 asts, he has 1.5 steals and nearly a block a game. The shooting will improve. This is his first season. This is coming from a Celtics fan. Give the kid another year or so. He'll be fine.
I will say this: Lonzo Ball fans are probably the most statical savvy fans in the NBA. Ya'll be pulling crazy stats out the air the prove this kids greatness. Lonzo Ball fans be like: He the youngest player in the NBA to have the highest defensive efficiency rating out anybody drafted on Tuesday as the #2 or #7 pick in the last 13 seasons. He's decent though. Easily top 40 PG in the NBA
10 7 7 all the stats you need. good defense. thats a good rookie
Gabe The Great hes top 10 guy not no top 40. Kobe averaged 7 a game his first year.
John Pierre Kobe was deep on the bench tho
Ball 10.2, 7.1, 7.2
Tatum 13.5, 5.1, 1.4
Simmons 16.8, 7.8, 7.4
Mitchell 19.5, 3.6, 3.4
Fox 11.3, 2.6, 3.4
Jackson 11.3, 4.2, 1.2
Smith 14.8, 3.9, 4.9
Lonzo ain't that bad or maybe the whole class might get a D after all???
Fox wasn't a starter since the beginning of the season.
aicalj well that's true, so much pressure
"You tell me" 😂
Y’all are crazy thinking people hating! He’s the no.2 pick in the national basketball association! He’s SUPPOSED to be playing better. That’s just simple facts. Then you compare him to other one-and-done rookies and he’s still not playing how he should be. Stay calm and watch him grow if you think he WILL be Magic Johnson, but y’all need to calm it with the fake news attitudes ☺️
What's the first pick doing?
Maq IS he's forced too grow up fast in Boston. LA ain't doing nothing, ain't making the post season. So he's been playing on a higher level, better team higher stakes. Lay off Tatum
LoveMusicVideoArt False. If you're drafting players for just one year then yes your argument makes sense. But that's not what teams are drafting for. It's about the upside of a player. Being picked second doesn't mean that a player should be expected to play well out the gate. Conditioning, off the court adjustments, team role and alot of other things play into how a rookie looks out there. It takes time!
Maq IS you are so wrong um let bring up some other rookies that better than lonzo kuzma,lauri from the bulls,Smith jr you can also argue if Fox is better also bogdan and josh Jackson but those first 3 I just mentioned are better than lonzo
Maq IS if you switch players which team ends up better ?
He ain’t passing? He’s averaging 7apg! That’s more than most average PG veterans.
aicalj he is involved enough if he has the same averages as draymond green and same usuage rate he doesn't dribble the ball to sleep
C- full of injury and inconsistencies but not bad enough for a D.
MURRAY RHYMES WITH CURRY Yeah D is a bit harsh but he's been far from great. He has no midrange game and only has floaters and 3pt shot (which he shoots 30% from) in his scoring arsenal. He plays with little aggression, his off the ball movement is TERRIBLE (he just stands in the corner). And yeah when you FT% is lower than most centers that doesn't help either.
100% agree
Shannon is a Lonzo hater. The last 15 games before he got injured, he was averaging 12, 7 & 7 on 40% shooting from 3. He was improving. How can Shannon expect a 20 year old to lead the youngest team in the league to a lot of wins in the Western Conference? If it wasn’t for Lavar, Lonzo wouldn’t be getting all this hate, it ain’t fair
Jon Swavyy
He's grading the *FIRST HALF* of the season, we are currently in the *2nd Half* of the season.
Lonzo also played more than 15 games
They not talking bout the 15 games they talking about his first half of the season
Cry me a river!
Back in his espn days Skip said the triple double is the most overrated stat in all of basketball but now he gives props to Lonzo for two of them so far smh.
No he said that cause it applied to Westbrook. He stat pats. And it applies today
Lonzo Ball is having a real good year if not for his injury we might be talking about him as rookie of the Year. The way this guy throws that ball is amazing as fast as he throws it he doesn't hesitant to pass
People talk about lonzo rebounds but with the way the NBA is structured now any one can get rebounds. If it were not for his father with his numbers we wouldn't be talking about lonzo. But it's not fair to condemn him because not every players blossoms at the same rate. Look at who coached him up and we all know his daddy is more business man that coach but kudos to him.
carlos harris “anyone can get rebounds” uhhhh yeah it’s always been that way. Just sg’s and pg’s are much taller and more athletic in the current nba compared to the old nba
shiiid the lakers cant they need lonzo for those rebounds
Skip’s “MmM” everytime shannon says something absurd is funny lmfao
The whole show pls!! Not just the podcast a day later. 1080p full show, get that youtube shmoney!!
How bout breaking it down. Lonzo Defense grade A+, rebounding A+, passing A+, shooting a D. It was an F but he picked it up since mid December. Only way you give him a D or lower is cuz of bias
Daniel Munoz that's hella biased
Shannon, you are way off. He started to figure it out then got injured. You can't give him any grade other than INCOMPLETE
Venice Beach Sports Network plzz dog hes so garbage non athlete n worst shooter for a non big in the leauge
Mark Freeman he started making some 3's before he got hurt
I give him a C+ because for a 2nd pick who’s offensive game wasn’t this bad in college he’s underperforming but at the same token he’s one of the best defensive rookies rn & is also averaging 7 rebounds & 7 assists.. Only thing holding him back is his shooting
I give him a C+ nothing special bout his game just another good passer
I'm a big Lakers fan, I'll give Zo. a. C+ once the team is complete. This off season additions we can see if he has it.
Lonzo just came back to play last night against the Mavs, and he made a big, big, big difference in improving the team's overall play. You can see the obvious boost in confidence and just better team play with Lonzo in there. Who cares about his numbers right now! Lonzo and IT look like a very, very good combination together.
lavar ball is the biggest hustler we have seen in nba history! lonzo and the shoplifter are total busts.
samsa deniz huge L
As a Lakers fan...........C. I do appreciate the 7.1 RPG and 7.1 APG though. That's impressive. Maybe I'm being kinda nice but....eh idk haha. Point is he gotta be way better if ppl like Skip wants him to be transcendent...
Shannon:“Those numbers might be even worse if he wasn‘t injured.“ Before his injuries Lonzo averaged 14 ppg, 7.5Apg, 7.5Rpg, 1.5SPG, 1BPG on 40% shooting from 3 and around 44% shooting from the field.
Dude is top 10 of active pgs In the league in Rebs, stls, and asts. Let him develop and ball out. No pun intended.to
"Mmm"
"Mmmmmm"
"Tell me when its my turn"
~GOAT Bayles.
B he's averaging 10 7 7 hes lead his team in rebounding and assist and changed the culture there
Lonzo deserves a B-/B With the potential this year to be much higher. Lonzo has been really good in every aspect except his shooting this season. His defense, Rebounding and passing has been excellent
cant wait to see what they say about last night | he went 100% in shooting
Shannon's face 9:45 is PRICELESS!! 😂😂😂👉👈
Honestly I'm not even a huge Lonzo fan, just a fan of the NBA and I think Lonzo is having one of the best rookie seasons I've ever seen. He has future superstar written all over him plus he is highly marketable
He's going to be great. The only thing he needs to improve is scoring. As far as shot iq & onball/offball movement, it's exceptional
Skiiiiip cmon skiiiip
He averaging a damn near triple double?
shooting like 35%
#Dubnation that was in the beginning of the season. So far he shoots above 40% now let’s see how he does when he comes back.
J Jordan ben simmons is better
Ben Simmons is 7 feet with ball handling skills I hope so for him buth he better work on that jumper he scared for his life to take one!
sjaak verduijn at least he knows not to shoot.
the problem is, if you're a pass-first guy like a nash or stockton, in order for that to work people have to fear your shot. if they're perfectly happy to let you shoot the ball, it makes stopping your playmaking much easier.
Lonzo is the most valuable player on the lakers and makes his teammates look much better. Those aren’t empty stats I give him a C+
Once Lonzo get his shot together he’s gonna be unstoppable I wish people would get that thru their head and Shannon don’t like zo because of what Lavar said about him 😂😂
AlmightyTaka. What lavar said about Shannon?
Unstoppable? LMFAOO he has no heart yet, well wait and see, Softer then toilet paper.
In the long-term, Lonzo Ball will be the best rookie of the 2017 draft. I can't wait to see him fill out to get his dad's frame and get stronger (and possibly grow taller).
Shannon killing me 🤣🤣🤣 "SKIPPPP STOP"
Skip's wrong. Zo's got upside. But he doesn't look like a franchise cornerstone as of yet. Brandon, though. All BI needs is time, a better off hand dribble, and for the franchise to sign off on him as the point guard. The guy's special.
Leigh Arlington but he wasnt his first year
BI did NOT look like a franchise cornerstone in his first year and neither did Kobe.
Lonzo is a good rookie and will be just fine. It's just that this draft class is really talented and other rookies just adjust quicker. You need to physically watch the games to see this kids point guard and passing potential and he husltes on rebounds. For once agree with skip. 10/7/7 B- is good enough for now.
"No He Can Fill A Space." 😂😂😂 #UncleShan
He’s a solid B-... he can’t shoot but he contributes. Just bc he isn’t the best in his class doesn’t mean he can’t improve... also has an all around game better than most rookies when we KNEW he wasn’t going to be
First of all you got to realize that he's a rookie and he already got the pressure on his back because of his father overall I give him a c because he's very versatile he can get rebounds and he can pass the ball he just needs to improve his shooting he'll be all right
I'd give it a *BBB-*
Lonzo has potential but he hasn’t lived up to the hype. The funny thing is the lakers are playing better and Brandon Ingram is playing better basketball at the point guard position
I'd say C+. Lonzo had slow start but was starting to pick it up before his injury.
Give this man time
I give him an "L"
Nigel Verdell L
Yeah because his name is “L”onzo!
L for Lonzo!!!!
Nah a z
Skip killed him in that last few minutes with the 2 max players comment 😂
The one thing that hurts zo is this draft class was so deep, imagine if Donovan was on the lakers I think they would sneak in the playoffs this year
C
-Makes his team better and ok numbers
-Terrible percentages
-Defense better then my expectations
-Hurt a little bit too much
All in all a pretty good rookie year obviously could be better. Hopefully improves those percentages in the second half of the season and stays healthy.
Shannon hating on lonzo and BBB
I'd give him a C+/B- as a rookie he's having an ok season gets a lil bump in grade due to keeping his cool despite the craziness of his dad
You gatta fix the audio fox damn
GIVE THIS MAN TIME FOR THE LOVE OF GOD! 10-7-7 is pretty damn good for a rookie and his shooting was slowly progressing before he got injured. RELAX SHANNON
Give it time
Damn I never thought I would agree with skip
I’ll give Lonzo a B+. He’s gonna be a great player. 10pts 7ast 7reb as a rookie. Jason Kidd numbers as a rookie are alike.
Look at his numbers hes doin pretty good
Lonzo Ball C+ on a HUGE curve✌🏓🏒🏏🏑🎳🎱🎾🏉🏈🏐⚾️⚽️🏀⬅️BALLS
2:22 'Skip you got to be fucki.. uh uh'
Once the season is over, the next stage of his career truly begins. He needs to get various expert trainers to come and help him reconstruct his shooting form and jump-shot, strengthen his entire body, improve his cardio and energy, tighten his handles, develop hesitation moves, and work like mad on improving his athleticism and explosion. Also needs to make his arms and legs really much stronger. Also needs to improve his left hand/arm. He’s got his work cut out.
Lonzo is a pretty decent nba player Whose a streaky shooter and a great passer. But, I think everyone can agree that is ceiling is a lot lower than we originally thought
C because of his rebounds and defense.
I'd give him a C. He going to be a project for LA. It's important to note that he is just a rookie, he's going to need time to grow and develop. He has potential to be a really good player but I don't think it's going to be overnight. He's not the player he was hyped to be, not yet. But he's also not that bad either. Give him 2-3 seasons and I think he'll be good.
For everybody saying give him time to grow. They are talking about right now! 2:58 if you didn't hear it.
It goes to show you the NBA picks the most hyped player skilled or not it's about selling tickets at the end of the day
Lol “you look at shaq, you look at Jordan with the third pick in the draft” the guys mentioning all time greats and only listed 2 guys and the list stopped. 10, 7 & 7 first season is pretty solid. I thought he was gonna be a rondo type player and that’s exactly how he’s been playing, if he stays at that level he’ll have a solid nba career as a starting pg. he’s a point guard, what’s he expecting from him? 20+ ppg? That’s his game? Assists, triple doubles, play making and if you can get over 15 ppg from him than it’s a bonus. How are you gonna compare him to Jordan or shaq when those guys biggest strength were ppg and scoring. Sharpes an idiot
its not about him being 10-7-7, thats alright but its being outweighed by the fact that hes a point guard who can't put the ball in the basket. Literally the worst shooter in the nba and how does a PG have worse FT% than shaq. When your starting point guard has to be subbed out of 4th quarters because hes an offensive liability you know you have an issue.
I'll give him a B- as a rookie he's been good the people who bash him bring up his shooting and have no other argument but can't stand to talk about his other numbers
Jeremiah Scott ikr he been playing pretty well he is what I pretty much expected
Jeremiah Scott B- is a little high for me. His shooting percentage is bad and his defense isn’t amazing. For a Rookie it’s like either a C or a C-
Jeremiah Scott because his shooting percentages are just that bad. not a little bad. but record breaking bad. he's on pace to have the worst percentages in NBA history.
Elijah arvinger if you're going to try to form proper sentences to make points at least capitalize after periods
Ok here's my argument why he's not a B-. He has no midrange game and only has floaters and 3pt shot (which he shoots 30% from) in his scoring arsenal. He plays with little aggression, his off the ball movement is TERRIBLE (he just stands in the corner). And yeah when you FT% is lower than most centers that doesn't help either. He's not a D but he's definitely not a B-.
B- grade he literally held our team together and controlled our offense very well. But his shooting is a red light
FACTORY!!! We got 23 wins this season
They have a better record without him..
A: rookie of the year candidate (20-7-5ish)
B: great (15-6-4ish)
C: average (10-5-3ish)
D: barely off the bench (6-5-2ish)
F: forever benched (2-2-1ish)
He’s a C.
Skip is hella funny. He hella serious too lmao
A+
Kyle kuzma deserves a A+
Lonzo Ball a solid D
I give him a C but his numbers aren't that bad just besides points hes doing better then alot of other players some all stars dont even average 7 rebounds or 7 assists like hes a pass first guard we dont expect him to score alot he can everybody knows that he just gotta be more aggressive n im sure he will do that soon enough
10 7 7 is great stat line for a rookie
i still cant believe lighting mcqueen. blew a one lap lead ! like if it still keeps you up at night !
It was medicore season for the 2nd overall pick the one the great magic Johnson said hes the best player
Skip said, "Im gonna give him a B-" and almost started laughing at hmself... lol
Lonzo is going to shock people next year. C so far.
C+ but so much potential
I like ZO but how you shooting 48% from the free throw line like cmon it’s so easy
Albert Bier 🤣🤣🤣 The worst part is he’s the point guard.
Russell Westbrook’s rookie numbers were 8.3 PPG 4.1 assists and 3.2 rebounds. He also shot 32% from the field. Now he’s an mvp and one of the best point guards in the NBA
He gon be in the same classroom🤣🤣🤣 - Shannon Sharpe
Im a big Lonzo fan a C+/B- is the right grade
He hasn't played enough. I'll grade his game by this time next season.
Easily a B. averaging 7 assists and 7 rebounds as a rookie is crazy.
I think Lonzo will be ok. Lots of pressure on him because of his father's rants how great he is. He is under the media microscope. He sneezes wrong, it's news. My only complaint is his free throw shooting. That's something that he should be way better at.
He gets a BBB💯
4 years later shannon really needs to bring this back up.
Skip: Tell me when it’s my turn 😬😬
The ONLY Bad Thing They Can Say About Lonzo Is His Shooting Percentage Smh What Do These Other Rookies Have In Common? They All Surrounded By Better, Veteran Players So Of Course Their Numbers Are Going To Be Better.