6 Ounce Gold Refine COMPLETE REFINING Pt1
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Sr. Chief, if I could go back 30 years with what you’ve taught here on your wonderfully informative channel, I’d be writing this from my own private island! Great stuff, Sr. Chief! 👍👍👊👊
Right!
I was buying gold 30 years ago 😊😊😊
I did too. But then I’d sell it, like an investment. Gold is not an investment. Gold is real money.
Don't let the Jeweler trick you into thinking he's the Chief. For all we know he might be both.
What I really appreciate is that you never waste our time.
Often, time laps.
Thanks a lot for that.
We gotta be close to a filter paper refining video soon, papers gotta be piling up
5 gallon bucket full
I just want to say thank you Sreetips your professionalism and very detailed processes. They have led me starting to recover and refine gold as well as silver. I just ran my first batch of GF material last week. 200g led to 7g button 3.5% yield! All thanks to you! I’ve been watching you for years and I can’t wait for the next video!
GF material is readily obtained for 1/2 pennies on the dollar! Way to go. Explaining to the folks you are buying it from what is actually in it can be hard as it is just as shiny as 10k gold and if it is also plated with 23k they might think you are attempting to scam them, be careful, let them watch your determination of what it is... offer to test any other jewelry they might think is too good to be sold so cheap. Carry a spare loop, it will serve you well... get lucky and have fun. Use the testing solutions and the scratch plate, watch the jaws drop!
What is GF material?
Gold Filled - a thick coating of karat gold bonded to a base metal, usually brass.
@@sreetips Thanks again sreetips!
Nice!
I'm glad your the professional with this, marvelous work.
Never gets old. Thank you.
I watch a few different forgers of raw metals, people who melt it to form bars or coins for storage. You are by far the most meticulous and interactive of them all. I try to never miss one of your videos. Keep the great content flowing.
Thank you!
I've done a few computer scrap refines so far, using nitric acid substitute in powder form, and I have a small 10gram nugget, but it represents a ton of work and fun.
Getting through the excess nitric acid issue was tough at first but the tip of adding very little at a time was perfect. Looking forward to my next scrap refinement :)
Thank you Sreetips!
This is really cool. How do you get your computer scrap? And have you been profitable so far?
@@rhf5448 friends, family and dumpster diving.
Profit? If you salvage all gold from the boards you can have enough to drop maybe like 15$ on refinement but the scrap yard will give you money for copper, heat sinks, fan motors, motherboards, and any other precious electronics. So overall, yes lots of profit but from gold? Definitely not considering the hundreds of hours I’ve put in for a 750$ chunk of gold nugget
This never gets old, another real treat in the making. 👍🏻
Gooooood evening from central Florida! Hope everyone has a great night!
and good evening to you too, from quebec, canada
Hello, you too bud, from the UK 😊
Hello my dear friend ❤️
Enjoy your day🌸
God bless you🙏🌸
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@@ArneDalbakk-ns2mwHello Arne! Have a great one my friend! 😎🌴🌴🌴
Stretips is the best no doubt! He is the heavy weight refiner Champ of the World!🏆
I had to refine a huge 1 pound nugget.. It took me forever.. I got it done tho!
My refinement process is a Geo Metro & Stretips refinement process is a Rolls Royce🏅🏅🏅
Great work as always!
God Bless you and Mrs Stretips!🙏🏆🙏🏅🏅🏅💎
LOVE the details of the process you go into (very informative). cheers ~baden~
Awesome Sreetips I look forward all week for your videos . I'm a diehard fan of yours . I've even saved every video you have done to my phone . So if Wifi ever goes out I still have something interesting to watch. 👍👍👍
Thank you!
You are pure gold!
Very relaxing to watch. No annoying music. Just listen to what he says.
I’ve watched him do this so many times on here but it never gets old just watching a orange liquid turn into something so valuable
You are very informative and easy to understand
Thank you.
Thank you for another great video sir
for the fan who asked if diamonds float in molten gold…per Google, no. Diamonds have a higher density than molten gold.
Pretty neat, thanks
Ehm no, gold has a density of 19.3 g/cm3 and diamonds 3.53 g/cm3
Diamonds are a lot lighter and will most certainly float
I would love to send you a little bit of gold that i got from a creek in central Illinois area it took me 6 hours to find less that a quarter gram lolol it isn't much but you have brought me years of entertainment and education
At least you found something.
I've been prospecting for a couple years and haven't found so much as a single flake of gold 😅
Where in Central Illinois? Decatur here.
@@Gonna_Run_Amuck. I'm in DELAVAN ILLINOIS here only about an hour away hello neighbor
Great job BRO.
Es wäre interessant zu wissen, wieviel Gold, Silber und andere kostbaren Metalle sich auf dem Boden und in der Werkstatt von Sreetips befinden. Eine kompletter Reinigung würde sicher einiges zu Tage bringen. Hoffentlich kommt mal eine Sondersendung dazu.
Really enjoy the videos, wished they had content like this when I was going through chemistry class 15 years ago lol!
I took a chemistry class in high school fifty years ago. Got a D and never took another.
@@sreetips The standards have dropped massively to say the least!
Nice work sreetips, amazing what you can do with some scrap jewelry 👍
Mr scientific again I'm going to put abouuuuuuuuut that much, Love your lingo! Hey when you remove the silver from the inquarted gold and the gold looks dull, can you bring the brightness back to that gold in that form?
Yes, with a buffer and some polishing compound.
Another great video, your ebay recomendation for a fume hood and extractor was much appreciated, all i need now is my own Mrs. Sreetips, but GF material will suffice for now.
I saw after precipitation and rinsing, after boiling in HCL, boil in water, then ammonia to further scrube any copper off. Always seems to look great with the ammonia boil
Cold Ammonia in janitorial strength works well enough to part the fractional copper remaining after all the nitric boils but will add another waste stream to the process which will not play well with the initial waste treatment usually suggested -cementing silver with copper. If doing this pour the cold ammonia rinses into a different catchment system. Since elemental silver does not dissolve well in frigid or icy cold ammonia direct treatment of that waste stream with iron is preferred. Ionic silver will readily be dissolved in even cold ammonia and since a part of the remaining silver is present as ions of nitric you will lose that portion, hence the reason to treat that waste stream separately for the cement vs ammonia parted at the very end. A little goes a long way and can be beneficial if you do not care about the fractional silver present after all the boils in HLC H2O. You will be able to see the silver oxide form as a dark grey to black coating which will vary depending on the fraction of silver present after all those rinses. This can be removed with hot Dilute HLC. It will shine your nitric parted gold inquart as you say...
I don’t use ammonia in any of my processes.
4:18am, workmen outside, must be time for Sreetips and coffee. Gud vid 💯💥
It reminds me of watching Terminator 2 when he's lowered into the furnace pot.
Wen you spilled some of that gold powder in that one video I was like ohh 😂😂 bro wen you swept that up 😂😂😂 very cool !!! I metal detect and find tons of jewelry I started watching you a while back trying to learn😂 and wat I learned is that I'm bright enough to clean up My gold I dig 😂😂😂😂
The gold in solution has got me craving some ice cold Apple Juice 😂
Love your channel and what u do to help people with gold and silver. 👍👍👌👌👍👍
Make detailed, comprehensive videos
Do remember to scrape the cement floor for precious metals. I noticed the thier was quite a bit of over splash to the floor this time. A gram of findings is worth the effort occasionally.
Thats a lot of Gold Jewelry Sreetips 🏴☠️ I like watching it be melted down. Thank you for sharing with us 🙏 God Bless
Thank you So much ❤
Thank you!
Awesome video sir thank you for sharing this with us six stars
Awesome work
1:15 Ahhh good, i aways wondered if you clean up the bits that fall out!
To, "J": You and me both! I started following this incredible guy, two years ago. If we could just go back in time? I'd have an island beside yours!
The really incredible thing is, unlike most of what you find on the WEB, SREETIPS is ROCK SOLID! It's hard Science that is repeatable! Since that first Video, I now have my own Laboratory and enjoy every day I'm out, Boiling Metals! All thanks to SREETIPS! A TRUE ROCK STAR!
wade
good idea to end the video at the precipitation and clock out for the night to let it all settle completely
What is the ratio gold to silver so the gold will go into solution after? If you said and I missed it I apologize. Love your videos
It’s about 10 parts HCl to one part nitric will dissolve the recovered gold.
Good work team
Can you explain the quarting the gold with the silver? I have no clue what’s going on have the time, but from watching you, I always thought you add the silver to make it into Karat gold or lower karat. Seeing the scrap was already karat gold would it not have Silver or enough silver in it to put the gold into solution and perceptate it out? Thanks
Inquart: adding enough sterling silver or clean copper, to create an alloy that is 1/4 pure gold, and 3/4 silver and base metals. With the gold content of the alloy this low (25% or 6k) the nitric acid can now penetrate each piece to its core, forming a honeycomb structure as it goes, to completely remove all the silver and all the base metals. Inquarting with silver and parting with hot dilute nitric is a recovery technique. Once all the silver and base metals are removed, we can then refine the gold with Aqua Regia. Recover and refining are two totally different processes.
Thanks for explaining that! 🙏
my one question would be: Since by my understanding that Nitric acid is expensive and hard to come by, why aren't you capturing the fumes off the boils and condensing them back to usable chemicals for future extractions?
Nitric is available at any chemical supply. It’s more convenient to buy it rather than trying to scavenge it from the reaction.
Would this go faster if the chunks of inquarted gold were much smaller? Like I wonder if this could be reduced to metal powder and then do the nitric washes or would that make the reaction too violent?
Yes, smaller pieces mean increased surface area. And that translates into faster processing
1:00 have you ever swept the floor around the melt station to see what if any gold is on it?
The water splashing out from the tank as I poured the molten metal in only appeared to be metal because it (the water droplets) were being illuminated by the brightness of the torch.
I was watching an unrelated video a little while back, and the person mentioned that the trick for rosebud tips on torches is to run a slightly oxygen deficient flame and it helps. Not sure what the mix is, or if it will help you or not, but it is worth a try if you haven't tried that.
I noticed Sreetips running about a 2x carburizing flame here......
Hi all, Question for Sreetips, when cooling AR you add ice cubes to cool, dilute, and precip any silver chloride. The precip of the silver chloride is caused by the cooling, dilution, or are you using tap water instead of diH2O ice cubes? Thanks in advance! LOVE the vids! I have learned so much!!!!!
I think i found my answer: Silver Chloride precips out when solution gets down to 50c due to the chlorides in the HCL which is in the AR, correct? Thanks again for the VIDS cant wait for the next!
Silver chloride is slightly soluble in Aqua Regia. More so in hot Aqua Regia. Adding cools the solution and forces the silver chloride out so we can filter it out.
@@sreetips Thanks really appreciate it!
Probably a stupid question but is the golden solution heavy like it’s solid when fully dissolved and filtered?
Yes
I saw a video recently where they used potassium MB instead of SMB. Would there be much difference in how much gold drops out of solution?
It’s the sulfur in those compounds that precipitates the gold.
Could you use your silvershot for the silver jar? Seems like burning through silverware is a waste when you have buckets of the cement sitting around.
He's probably going to refine the silverware anyway so might as well start the process when inquarting gold. At least that's the sense I've gotten from previous videos.
Using cement silver over and over to inquart is not recommended. Palladium will tend to build up and could cause problems in the silver cell.
Well said!
@@sreetips gotcha, I have always been amazed at how much silver you fly through and now I know why.
Could you spill about tools needed to melting gold that much
I use an oxy/acetylene torch with a cutting head. And a graphite rod to stir the alloy to ensure a consistent alloy.
Darn! It stopped right at my favourite part 👋😅👉🔥
Agree 😂
I can pretty much guarantee that the Stump-out supplies at the Hardware store and Home Depot are always running low when Sreetips is in town!
Im sure that adding the SMB directly to the solution is easier but, I like the SO2 gas precipitations better. It's kinda like watching a storm.
Me too
Nothing like some good old Gold on the Rocks.
That aside, I seem to recall that in one of your earlier videos you tried enquarting the gold with copper and that it seemed to be cleaner and easier than with silver, yet you're still using silver.
That because I refine silver and I don’t refine copper.
Sreetips, is there a way to calculate how much SMB to add, given the fact, you know what gold amount you will get?
Yes, but i don’t know how to figure it. I just go by how it looks and get a negative stannous test.
@@sreetips If we know the amount of gold that will be precipitated, and we weigh the amount of SMB before we start the process. Use the SMB, as you usually do, then weight the SMB when you're finished. This will give a ballpark figure to start with.
I just use number of spoons for a specific amount of gold. For example, I know I can get all the gold to drop two ounces with eight spoons of SMB. But it only takes three spoons for an ounce. Why the disparity? Don’t know, it just does.
what's the point to adding the silver to the gold mix? then burning off the silver with acid? I'm not understanding this process.
So the nitric can penetrate
Good job
What caused the reaction when you added the Hydrochloric Acid?
Residual nitric from the nitric boils.
there is so much gold and silver in Mr Sreetips garage that the foundations have actually sunk into the ground 4 inches over the last 12 months.
What metal or chemical is in the metals when u melt the silver and make green flame when inquarting the gold. Don’t mind my bad spelling it’s phonetic
Green flame is copper
@2.45 What was that little black marble? Some leftover gemstone?
Probably a ball coated with gold.
Can you put in too much SMB and it becomes an impurity in the precipitate? If so, how is it rectified?
Yes, it will become saturated with SMB. But it’s highly soluble in water so just rinse over and over to get it out.
What would happen if you left the gold in solution for a long time? Would you lose gold through evaporation?
No, the liquid would evaporate and leave the gold chloride in solid chunks. All the gold would still be there.
I'll never get tired of watching forks disappear into a bowl.
When are you going to take a trip to Australia to do a video with bigstackD casting? He gave you a shoutout a few weeks back. He has a pretty good size following
Id love to travel there and visit him.
Why did you add the silver and what carot is it now since you mixed 10k with 14k? Thanks
6k to enable the nitric to penetrate
13:42 is it still aqua regia without the sulfer?
sreetips, I love that you have a watch time,r but it needs black hands its very hard to read in your videos
I tried using a wall clock but the fumes destroy it very quickly
i enjoy your videos. sometime ill be following along with my own reation.
reaction*
The concrete dust off that backer board won’t hurt the gold, or mess up the melt?
No, it’s not soluble and I can easily filter it out.
@@sreetips nice. Great video as usual! 💪👍
Are any of the rest of the Metals recoverable? Thanks Sreetips!
Yes
Why did it look like it generated nitrogen dioxide when the hydrochloric acid was added? Does it simply mean there's some nitric acid left?
Residual nitric acid.
i like you sreetips, you take time to be organized...
Thank you
When do you chose to use your waterboard vs no waterboard when pouring shot? I haven't picked up a pattern...
It’s pretty much when the spirit moves me.
Impure silver is best waterboarded, impure gold not so much. It has to do with the molten metal surface tensions being different... The gold even in very low percentages acts as a surfactant of sorts... The silver likes to ball up but the gold relaxes the solution. The copper in the recovered silver causes the balling to be more prevalent. The heat shows this well in the inquartion melt vessel and the condition of the dirt (anything other than those two metals is dirt even pgms!) all contribute to the solute alloy's ability to "cornflake" on contact with the water. This flat splash and the fragmentation bursts are what you want to increase the surface area of the poured metal alloy. Slush ice works best but it hard to achieve in most casual labs with any ease. Floating ice is ok but not needed. If the pot of water is actively chilled with coils of refrigerant the best results can be obtained. That is way too expensive for a hobbyist unless you are an HVAC manufacturer in your day job.
Making shot works best without a waterboard and a greater height. You also heat to well above the alloy ideal temp for the air to fractionally shape to ball type shot. The depth of water needs an increase if your resultant shot is teardrop shaped in any fashion. Shot is for shooters, cornflaking is for refiners.
The reason we refiners like flat splashed is for high contact area with control of dissolution and the convenience of the alloy not rolling away while rinseing and such.
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@@CothranMike Oh Wow!.. thank you for that in-depth explanation. Very interesting!
lmao that thumb nail is great.
I cant wait.......lol good cliff hanger...
Hello Mrs and Mr Sreetips.
Thank you so much for a new gold refining clip Sir. Say hello to your wife 🌸🌸
God bless you🙏
Arne
Will do Arne.
I'd like to give this a try some day
After I do the initial nitric boil on my gold filled scrap, I can add karat gold to it when I put it into aqua reiga (latin for, will turn any God dam thing into liquid)?
I’ve never tried that
@sreetips I'm going to try it. Just a couple of pieces of scrap. 10k & 14k earrings. After you do the initial nitric boil you're just left with karat gold, so let's try it.
What fascinates me about elements like gold and mercury is that their properties like the yellow colour and being soft or liquid is due to immense relativistic effects of the inner electrons being bound so tightly to the superheavy nucleus and forced to speeds so close to speed of light it makes them heavier. Such nucleus could not even be made in an ordinary star - even heating to hundreds of millions of degrees would do nothing to it. Even atomic blast would barely touch it.
That’s mind boggling
How do you treat and dispose of you waste liquids?
Waste treatment.
you can clearly see the water is kicking out material.. maybe hold it lower or use a shroud around it, money, I know you will sweep your floor one rainy day and pickup a nice little bar .. .
I'm a simple kind of guy - I see a new sreetips vid, I click. Paul Harrell is another. Both are masters in their craft.
Thank you!
Hey, I was wondering what torch you use.
Oxy/acetylene with a cutting tip
18:40 would the solution in the beaker turn purple if you put a drop of test solution in? Would it harm anything?
I’ve never tried it
Sir greetings. How are you? Iron sulphate instead of smb, who is better?
SMB will tend to drop platinum group metals with the gold powder, if present. But it’s quick easy and cheap. Ferrous sulfate (iron sulfate) will drop the gold, all the gold, and nothing but the gold. So if there are other metals in the gold solution, for high purity, iron sulfate is the precipitant to use. However, ferrous sulfate is cumbersome, bulky (takes a pound of it dissolved in hot water to precipitate two ounces of gold) a little more time consuming that just adding SMB right into the gold solution.
@@sreetips Thank you very much. These things were new to me. An experienced teacher explained it like this.
owwwww yum!!! @ 15:11, the forbidden orange juice!!!!
What happens to the borax? Isnt it a contaminant? Is that what slag is?
Borax melts. Any contamination will tend to float on top of the molten gold. The molten borax will adhere and pull it off to the side of the melt dish. Also, borax cause the metals to flow into a central mass in the bottom of the melt dish.
What's red gas when u add nitric to inquarted gold?? Dangerous?
Nitrogen dioxide, poison to breath concentrated gas
@sreetips Does insulating underneath the melt dish keep the melt time down?
Yes
Do you find most of your scrap gold online or at like yard/garage/estate sales
People selling online know what they have, that’s why they sell it online. We buy from people who don’t want the gold for a number of reasons. Mostly because they need currency to pay some bills. People are clueless about gold and silver. They believe, incorrectly, that paper dollars are more valuable. We buy at local sales. But it won’t just fall in your lap. You’ve got to get up early and be there first. Or else the gold and silver will be long gone by other pickers who understand the true value of GOLD.
@@sreetips I tottaly agree people think that dollar is so high and mighty and that's cool I figured it was probably at some sales but I also kinda figured since they don't know what they have most people might try and over value it but mabey not as for the selling online part would make sense didn't really think about that to mutch
@@sreetips so not only do you get the fun of melting the gold n silver down but you also get the joy of the hunt for it at the best price
My wife does most of the hunting. If it wasn’t for her, I’d be punching a time clock at Home Depot or Lowe’s.
the Sreetips extended family and friends only use plastic cutlery when they are invited for diner these days.
I think my favorite form of the gold is after you inquart the gold and boil of the silver with nitric. I'd probably stop there and just store the gold in a raisin bran or corn flake box. 😂
Is it crazy for me to be curious how a ice cubes made from the gold solution would react in a breaker of water with a sodium metabisulfite solution?
That would be awesome. But I don’t know what the freeze point is on gold chloride. Probably because no one has ever tried freezing any. May submerge in liquid nitrogen. Good idea for a video!
why is it so cloudy, it usually isn't when you get to this step?
Probably some junk in the metal.
What do u do with the silver chloride u produce ive never seen u address it
I save it until I have enough to process, then I convert it to pure silver with lye and sugar.
@@sreetips why not straight melt?
Because it a giant pain and the crucible has a tendency to boil over from all the sodium carbonate that must be added. Silver chloride conversion makes three nines silver.
@sreetips can i do a conversion if its mixed with other metals and then refine it? Like in a stock pot?
I don’t think so, but I’ve never tried that.
16:00 King Midas' sample to check for kidney stones?🤭
I see what you did there, funny stuff...
7:45 the forbidden iced coffee