MOST CONTROVERSIAL WORLD CUP GAME EVER?
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- čas přidán 15. 08. 2023
- BasketNews Retro crew Gytis Blazevicius, Augustas Suliauskas & Donatas Urbonas rewatch, react and share behind-the-scenes stories from the 2010 FIBA World Championship Semi-Final between Turkey & Serbia.
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No well deserved silver. Serbs didn't even win bronze medal what's the deal here? ...
@@burakdemiryurek7190
After this game and World Cup, president of FIBA came in Serbia and said:" Sorry Serbia about refs"
Every time I can't believe how it is possible that you know so much about Serbian basketball.
We in Serbia saying: "Serbia is the land of basketball" and "Lithuania is the land of basketball", but I don't know... Do you have in Lithuania some University abou Basketball history ?😂
You are another proof that "Lithuania is the land of basketball" 😂
@@KraljStefan-ey3bo that's a phenomenon here in Lithuania 😄 We follow BASKETBALL, that means everything to do with basketball including all the EuroLeague teams, all the National teams and so on. But of course we do a bit of preparing for these episodes too 😉
@burakdemiryurek7190
Let me put it like this: What would happen in the gym if refs were calling the opposite? It would be "war."
And by the way, if some player stimulates injuries, it is straight away tehnical. Especially because he got all instruction from the bench. The decision was made before the game. And it was something green with "in God we trust," which helps refs to get home happy. By the way, that 3 refs never ever was recruited to any Fiba championship after that game.
I remeber that game like it was yesterday. We managed to beat heavily favourite Spain team thanks to big balls Milos Teodosic, and then this game happened. We were so devestated that we didn't even want to play the game for 3rd place. It was a really bad year generally, as we also failed to qualify for knockout stage in World cup that year, in which we also got robbed for a penalty. I have never cried that much in my life as I did in those 2 games...
That ,about football, is not true. Serbia played in football World Cup 2010.
FIBA World Cup and FIFA World Cup were both in 2010. @@KraljStefan-ey3bo
@@KraljStefan-ey3boBro, he said: "failed to qualify the KNOCKOUT stage" (stage after the groups stage) not failed to qualify World Cup.
read the coment again@@KraljStefan-ey3bo
@@KraljStefan-ey3bo read properly, he said knockout stage meaning second round!
Much love for u guys from Serbia. This was the first time i cried about sport in my life, we were robbed.
just curious, what did you think about the 2002 final vs Argentina?
Ćao brate
@@Levenspiels Clean win in 2002. Bodiroga for the 3.
There you have just one questionable decision, and here there are 4 obvious mistakes in the last minute in the favour on one team. Uncomparable.
@@Levenspiels i will just say that i am very glad that argentina won two years later (and more important competition as well) and justice won
@@Levenspiels Yugoslavia was a better team then Argentina. Gauchos were underdogs in that game, but had very good chance ti win. Also it was one call which was questionable. In this game in last minute you have 3-4 clear "mistakes".
As a Turkish Basketball Fan i can say that there were terrible calls in this game in favor of Turkey. The last basket by Tunçeri was out of bounds but referees missed that badly. But still I remember this tournament as a great run for Turkish Basketball. Especially our games vs France and Greece. Sorry for Serbian supporters. But that result made me really happy as a child.
Not only in this game....
Dude, refs didnt miss that badly, they chose not to see it. This wouldn't be a great run for Turkish BA if the whole tournament wasn't rigged.
Koyduk diye yorumladım
kako god, ova utakmica je legendarna i istorijska. ova generacija je bila srcana i hrabra i igrala se odlicna kosarka
@@AND_WHO_ hahahaha, are you still crying for 10 years? you crying baby? no, this is the greatest fucking victory in the basketball history, not a theft. keep on crying ;) by the way, look at your 1995 eurobaskeet final victory against Lithuania and your 2002 World Cup match against Argentina for the biggest thefts in history ;)
Like Čavić against Phelps, we have been robbed so many times in the world, We know that and that's how we always prepare in sports, against opponents and referees. We are Serbs and we are always alone against everyone with faith in God.Relaxed, is not the first time and certainly not the last time!
This was one of the worst officiated games I've ever seen.
No this was perfect! Because it was a set up for Turkey! So there was no real officiating
@@nikolatesla3985 count it as a redemption for 2002 WC final.
@@kujklokpwhat does that have to do with Turkey in their home country... It was Yugo vs Arg in USA... No real reason for the refs to push Yugos especially at the time they were hated by the world because of the media covarage from the 90s...
@@Shiljamannn Apparently they had a reason to push yugos because they did.
Not anymore it got dethrone by Slovenian vs Canada In FWC2023
OMG. What terrible referees mistakes in final minutes. Serbia 🇷🇸, we with you🙏
I know yall already did the quarterfinals of 2017 but i would love to see you rewatching the 2017 final, serbia vs slovenia was hands down the best international basketball game ive ever seen. The "why you put your heads down" speech by dragic was legendary. Love the format, keep it up!
Love these retro games videos, even though this one still hurts as hell :D
The tournament was held in Turkey, and that's all you need to know.
I remember watching this game in a local pub with my highschool friends. It was around halftime and we were up around 10 and there was a bad call. Immediately my friend who trained basketball said to me, " We are losing this for shure"! I looked him like he was stupid, and said to him that we are killing them. He said, "No, every time when we are close to break the game the refs bring them back. I played in these ref rigged home games, we can not winn". Damn profit 😀
You know what is the problem, as a player you can know that on the court as well. You can see and feel refs turning against you, it was one of hardest things to hold out mentally in basketball.
From that day until today, Turkey has never beaten Serbia in basketball.
I was bummed out for days after this theft. I couldn't believe something like this could happen. Especially with so many cameras covering the game and so many people around the world watching.
This game still hurts.
@@tiosavvelikan9802 tad je bilo tesko sad je lepo sto se ponovo iznova i iznova pokazuje koliko su pokrali turci smrdljivi i lepo je sto i to ostaje jedina medalja ikad u kosarci
I was in Izmir watching that Lithuania-Spain game live in the Halkapinar sports center. Then in the middle of the game great number of the fans stopped watching the live game on the court. Started watching Turkey-Greece game on TVs all arounde the arena. It was really fantastic.
love these videos, thanks for posting guys!
Thank you!
Love these retro videos!!
More to come!
bro for like 30 years they are slaughtering turkish teams(club and national) in basketball!! numerous countless times i faced this! so once just once we had the luck in 2010 semi finals!
Legend has it that during the night, a slim tall one-eyed wired-looking creature still roams the arena, supposedly looking for his lost eye.
That defeat was very hard for me, most players from that generation still consider it the hardest defeat in their career. I wasn't that mad at the referees, it's basketball, mistakes happen. In fact, even the Serbian commentator didn't see that Tunceri stepped on the line in the live broadcast, only a few days later the footage appeared. I was much more mad at Bogdan Tanjević, who couldn't just celebrate the victory, but cynically said that Duda couldn't bear defeat.
Commentator should't see but refs only job is to see it and make call. Disgrace.
Thank u guys for reacting to this, this was biggest robbery against us, Serbia,and one of the biggest robberies overall in history of basketball
No that goes to the 95 eurobasket final, where Lithuania was robbed by corrupt yugos
@@Olterior Even your Lithuanian guy from the video referenced that game and said that Lithuania wasn't robbed that game
@@Olterior What are u even talking about?Nobody robbed Lithuanians that game
Lol your team has robbed many other countries of their wins in the past, don't cry
@@zottirgen Like who,name teams we robbed and when?Nobody ever reacted to Serbia robbing someone but u have like 5 videos of this robbery done by Turkey to Serbia!!!I think that was also your last win against us,so u can only beat us by doing this
I will never forget that day. First in May we (Partizan) lost to Olympiakos in semifinals of F4. Then in September this. I took a break from following basketball for a few years after 2010.
hard memories, I cried because of injustice. I was proud of our boys, but the injustice hurt a lot.
You can’t judge this game by watching the highlights. You have to watch the whole game and look the timing of controversial decisions.
Serbia played so good this tournament. They would won Turkey by 20 easily.
In your dreams, maybe
After that game turkey never win against Serbia.When we beat turkey in qualifiaers for world this year we eliminte them.Karma je čudo
This was the most shamefully officiated game maybe ever, definitely the worst game in that aspect I've ever seen. When I see Americans whining about 1972 I always think:"Come on, just watch 2010". After this game nothing in the sporting world could surprise me anymore.
When Obra was with Fenerbahce Beko they robbed us in 2 finals against Cska and Real Madrid.Can you rewatch those 2 games also
Naaa, they don't count if it's the Turks that were robbed, dude. They'd never ever do that
@@zottirgen came for this comment.
@@ismailozozdemir6485 Still waiting for one Turk to honestly say, yeah, it happened. It happens sometimes in sports, what can we do. I am still waiting for that open minded comment.
@@hyro3292 I am Turkish, yes the last play was out of bounds, if that's called we lose the game. So yeah it was a ref mistake that made us win the game. Make no mistake, we completely destroyed Greece, Slovenia and France, completely dominated them with our basketball. But this game was decided by ref calls in our favor. however the cska-fener final was 100% worse than this, and no one in Europe would ever acknowledge it. complete, shameless robbery. I am still waiting for that open minded comment.
@@PickNPodlol that wasn't the only huge mistake.. there were 10 huge "mistakes" and bunch of others throughout the game
Thank you, guys.
Fun fact Hido Turkogly is actually from Serbia or rather his parents are from muslim majority place in Serbia, Sjenica, they changed their last name from Ramicevic to Turkogly when they moved to Turkey before he was born. He was also fluent in Serbian and was wlcomed in NBA by Divac and Stojakovic.
His parents are originally bosnian not serbian. Many people with bosniak origin lives in turkey
@@mrtaltn639 Bosnian or Bosniak (40 percent of Bosnians are Serbs)? And even the Bosniaks (45 percent of Bosnians) are literally Serbs or Croats which in one moment took over muslim religion. There were no Bosniaks before 1992.
@@mrtaltn639 why do you do this?
Sjenica is in Serbia not in Bosnia.
Stop with the lies!
@@teshikajikatoshikachi4456 I did not say it isn't in Serbia. I said his parents were from the bosnian minority living there
@@mrtaltn639they are just muslim, no need to make an imaginary people group to justify their muslimness
If you look at the results of the Turkish basketball team in recent history, you will see that good results and medals were won only and exclusively when they played in Turkey at the EB 2001 and WC 2010. They never made a respectable result outside Turkey, even though they had top players and coaches. So there are all indications that this was deliberate, under pressure and that the refereeing when playing in Turkey is subordinate to the home team. All the decisions in the last minutes, from the blocking of Keselj in the downward path of the ball, through the acting of Asik, judged and unjudged fouls and the evident exit of Tuncery from the field in that last attack, directly decided the winner of this match and the participant of the final. It's a pity for the then young Serbian national team because they were literally stolen and this is perhaps the biggest shame that FIBA and the referee organization has committed against some national team at this level in recent history.
U mad bro
@@zottirgen its like: where's the respect for the monarchy 🎶
Bullshit. It's just that Turkish players are best motivated when they play in front of home crowd. And the Serbians are the nation who are favoured by FIBA the most.
@@emrebilgilooool, yes of course! Of course this is a crap comment by you.
@@zottirgen mad for what? What how many medals Serbia took the last years. Turkey is a piece of shit in Basketball.
Man I was livid, so happy I was sick in hindsight so I watched at home and not in a public bcs I lost my mind. I was 16 and punched a pillow for like 10 straight minutes my parents wanted to send me for a psych evaluation. (I am Serbian)
Lets face it guys, it had to go the way it went. We all witness Turkey's results in recent years and they will carry the curse of this game for years
sad but true
u should ask what did Serbs do to deserve this by BB Gods. probably little corrupt things done when basketball was a game cared only by communist countries in europe. lol
What curse lol, even top 4 was a great result for us. We're not a top basketball country
If that thought relieves you... then be it.
Let's face it guys, serbia got what they deserve in 2005 eurobasket at their home for their daylight robbery against Argentina in 2002.
Awesome guys! 👍💪
Surely yugoslavia robbing argentina in the 02 final has to be more controversial than this
I'm Happy someone's open this up.
For one more time great content,guys!!Milos is one of the most allegro point guards I have ever seen...I think that he never earned the hype and respect,he deserved...Keep on,the good work...Cheers from Greece!!
Thx gys 4 this video, a great steal this game
One of the most hurting losses ever. We had great team, great momentum, won vs Spain spectacularly, and then had this game vs Turkey in our hands. Even today I'm so mad on refs... Not to see so obvious out. It. Decided the game. We deserved to win this one... Could have had silver, and we stayed empty handed with the fourth place.
so many mistake serbia get point too then nobody talks about euroleague final cska fenerbahçe match
Good work, guys! Rock on.
Hello from Serbia.
Respect for this good you tube chanal i love your's podcast's!
watch fener against cska. There was really contreversial calls at the end. And Boby Dixon comeback was amazing. Not to mention it could have been the first EL cup in Turkey.
I don't know what hurts more this robbery, or 40 years old Luis Scola in 2019, or Slovenia 2017, or Italy Olympic qualifiers and EuroBasket 2021. Actually a lot of stuff hurts.
home team getting favorable calls what a surprise
Nothing controversial about this game. Serbia was cheated without a shame in front of everyone.
Remember 02' WC final against Argentina poor kid?
You guys *HAVE* *TO* *do* *the* *Greece* *vs* *Spain* *final* *of* *2006* *FIBA* *Worldcup* .
While being a referee for 11 years, we had FIBA call us for a training camp in 2012 in which we watched the entire game and discussed the criminal refereeing of that game.
They even gave us a DVD with all the bad calls against Greece.
I mean the Greek team beat US of A and lost nearly for 30 points against Spain?
Ok Spain is the nemesis of Greece in basketball and it was their best team to date, but come on....
to perdepses me to Eurobasket 2007. to 2006 xasame giati apla ksefouskosame meta ton imiteliko me USA. to 2007 egine to klepsimo.
You have to do 2016 Euroleague Final Fenerbahce vs CSKA
This game was the bigest steal and setup of all time in FIBA World Cup. Turkey aws pushed as host so hard, that no one could beat them because refs always destroyed team that played against Turkey.
Refs decided the game clearly.
Ur watching Serbia for the second time and thank u for that 👍. But tbh, it would be cool if u reacted to some og Latvia games, theres so many genrrations to choose from, and u would have lots of insights and less known stories. Cheers
But not Serbia Latvia eurobasket 2015😅
We did watch one of Latvia's games (vs Slovenia): czcams.com/video/qAjz3MlhlGw/video.html&ab_channel=BasketNews
Respect for ya work guys
But this hurrrrrrrts, we were watching the game in the bar and, uh, uh, uhhhhh...
Don't wanna curse :)
Greetings from the banks of Danube, Serbia
Also remember Sloukas's traveling before buzzer beater in quarter final against Fenerbahçe this year.
Learn basketball
@@mariotubegr wrong answer, zero.
someone's still salty...
@@dennisrossonero like sloukas 😊
When you say emotional calls, you ignore the slap in the face of Teodosic.
Good old days 😊
Guys what you say to rewatch a europa league quarter final football game in between Braga-Fenerbahce. Highligted version would consists crazy calls against fenerbahce. That game 4 red cards for fenerbahce, 2 penalties for braga, 2 penalties werent given in fb favor. As a fb fan that is one of these kind of games for me
It honestly looks like refs have stolen the game from Serbia. Not saying that Turkey has bought the referees, but that referees have decided this game. Allowing Turkoglu basically 'hug' refs (WTF?) and all these honestly terrible calls (one super emotional) or calls not given when it should have been given. And when you take this into consideration, it does not sound crazy that this is one of the more controversial games ever in the World Cup history.
Now watch last seasons Turk Telekom- Gran Canaria and CSKA Moscow - Fenerbahce finals
The layup from Tunceri was such bad defence even no serbian player was complaining.
Great potcast you have there guys keep up hello from Serbia
Guys dont cry, we beat you all fair and square..
Thank you guys for this video, still hurts…🇷🇸
You have to make a vid about how Panathinaikos was robbed by the referees in the 2012 euroleague semifinal
I like your videos very much!
This guy with the hat is the legendary Lakers and Clippers fan.
They stole the finals with the USA from us, that generation was at its peak with a ton of confidence after beating Spain and would put up a great fight and show with the USA in the finals.
Durant was there, so nothing would change.
Many Serbs cried when they lost because they stole the cup from us. We call it pain in the tail in Turkey when we find excuses when we lose.
I remember that and i also remember that there where rumors. Turkish Airlines payed about 20mio Dollars of Turkey plays against USA in the Finals.
I still have nightmares about this game...
Serbians in the comments crying and saying it was a robbery yet during the game not a single Serbian player objected to the last play by Turkey. Even they didn't see it yet they are claiming the game was bought!
Up until 4th quarter you could tell refs were giving the benefit of a doubt to Turkey as the hosting team, but last few minutes were just awful. The fake injury, the fake foul and Krstic ejection, the no foul call on Velickovic, the no foul call on the inbound play, and the worst being the clear step on the line on the winning basket... Whether you think it was sponsored by the Turkish or not, it was a clear as day robbery by the refs in the final moments...
That guy in 13:27 is James Goldstein. He's rich and attends nearly every big time basketball event. You can see him on the Lakers courtside most of the times
2014. сам се осећао као да је некакав дан за освету, која се као сервирала хладна, хахаха како је време споро текло... имам осећај да је много више времена протекло од 2010. до 2014. него од 2014. па на вамо
The Ref was talking to Turkoglu's ear because it was too loud, and he was warning Turkoglu to not provoke the crowd because it could be dangerous for players. This kind of warning is normal against fans in Balkans. Yes, there are one or two ref. mistakes in the game, but you can find many games with that kind of mistakes...
Yes, 2 or 3 mistakes in the last minute only :D, the ball was out of bounds for turkey the last bucket and novica was fouled brutally in the last play for serbia. Dont get me started on serbia being in bonus in the first 2 or 3 min of every quarter and asik acting. 2 or 3 mistakes HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
so because Blakans is corrupt that's ok? like saying ah don't worry they're all murderers anyway but they never go to prison.... I mean dude wtf
This post is so weak. Congratulations for the weakness.
@@miskodj17 Please do talk about eurobasket 95 final where yugoslavia shot a million free throws and the daylight robbery against Argentina in 2002 WC final.
It was a great basketball game. Not much controversy.
There are some situations that were OKish calls that happens in everygame until the last minute. For the last minute, yes there are bad calls that decided the fate of the game I think. A bad night for the refs for sure. It's also funny to think hedo is cheating with the ref in front of cameras. I found it hillarious. 🤣
I can understand the Serbian fans crying, but this is sports
Very tasty content! Thank you guys!
Just after this unseen theft and the greatest shame on the FIBA, Đoković destroyed Federer with a single ritern at legendary US open game. THAN YOU for this guys!
You should do a "most controversial eurobasket game ever" and watch the Spain vs Greece Eurobasket 2007 semifinal. The refs carried Spain hard with outrageous calls.
Spain always seems to have the referees on their side
Eurobasket 2005 quarterfinal Spain vs Croatia, I think that was the most controversial, total foul comparison: 14 vs 38 😅
One of the biggest roberries in history of any sport. Intentional roberry. Its not only about last 4 mistakes.
Have you watched yugo-Argentina 2002 WC Final?
Turks never played in any final after that and never will.
Sorry but the last Block from Erdem ist 100% no Faul Sorry Guys. Dont hate
21:42 look when the clock starts ticking
k then lets talk about the most controversial euroleague final game ever? CSKA-vs Fenerbahce
This one hurt big time.
This was maybe the biggest steal in basketball history if we consider national teams playing.
LOL, you forgot how you robbed Lithuania and Argentina, kiddo?
@@kujklokp I don't think we ever robed Lithuania. Argentina is just one mistake but in crucial moment and what the fuck Serbia have with one referee mistake?
@@kapicic011 "just one mistake" lmao
i remembered this game and i was so excited.. it was a great moment.. mistakes always happened and gonna happen..the last i remembered the mistake against turkey was in eurobasket 2022 georgia game.. even FIBA accepted the mistakes.. i hope we can also gonna see your videos about euroleague referee's that made mistakes agains turkish clubs.. for example i'm really curious, what you think about damir javor in 2016 final between cska and fenerbahce.. or you can also comment about "rules free spanish teams" in euroleague..
I saw the game last year. The refs were a disgrace.
This is equivalent to a LA - SAC 2002 game
Hedo's origins come from Bosnia, I saw him talking Serbian (or a dialect, I'm not sure) with Divac and Stajakovic during Sacremento rookie years. Playmaking comments are very right, that made him a key player in NBA in his prime. He was also one of the best international clutch players. Never saw him hasitating in tough moments.
Његова породица је пореклом из околине Сјенице у Старој Рашкој,[3] а једно време су живели у месту Лажани код Прилепа.[4] По доласку у Турску, своје дотадашње презиме Рамићевић променили су у Туркоглу, што на турском језику значи „турски син”.[5] Туркоглу говори српски језик и током играња за Сакраменто кингсе постао је велики пријатељ са српским кошаркашима, Владом Дивцем и Предрагом Стојаковићем, који су га популарно звали „брат Хидо”. Симпатизер је фудбалског клуба Партизан. So his family is from Serbia and also lived some time in Macedonia.
Who won the jokić jersey
can you please do the 2012 semifinal in euroleague (csska pao)
I think this the "hand of god" situation of European Basketball scene
Looked fair to me
Spain's robbery against Croatia in 2005 was even worse
c'mon? You really said "it looks like he stepped out"?
Are you blind or what? 😂
It's so obvious in both situations in last few seconds...
Good video! Love from Serbia 🇷🇸 one of the biggest basketball forces in the world!
Eurobasket 2011 teodosic got his revenge
Can u make a video about fenerbahce pls
still angry when remember this game
Guys,
This is not the only sport or only game where shit like this has happened against Serbia. There are so many different sports and games that this has happened to us that all of us have stopped counting.
The worst scandal of the sports history of the world.
I have a fantastic question for you guys and all the viewers .
Lets say in a galaxy far far away there is a civilization like earth . but with a more advance technology than us . And some how since both worlds try to fight each other , diplomatic relations made it so the winner will be decided with a single game of basketball .world cup rules .
They also offered us since they have the technology to make any guy at an age and shape of his choosing , like make and retired guy 28 years old again with the skills ability and physicality he had at that age .
My questions so are these : First if you decide to choose a specific country team , make them in their prime again , from all times of basketbal history , which one would you choose ?
Second one , if you can make your own team by taking players from all over the world , make them young again if needed , which 12 guys would be you pick ?
And last question , who would coach them ?
You should review the Croatia vs. Spain game in 2005 Eurobasket... Now that was a robbery!
in favour of who?
Spain obviously @@clintstewart5545
this was the match when FIBA shot herself in the foot...
All i see butthurt Serbians that this game was rigged sorry guys but it wasn't the case if you watched the game before there were lots of controversial calls against both sides. The referees' were straight trash but it wasn't one sided.
Turkey win with huge help from judges but nevermind, they will never reach the final again while Serbia is playing in finals again