Shannon Sharpe & Chad Johnson debate Steelers HC Mike Tomlin's job security | Nightcap
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- Shannon Sharpe and Chad "Ochocinco" Johnson react to former Pittsburgh Steelers OL Willie Colon saying head coach Mike Tomlin is on the hot seat. Unc & Ocho discuss Tomlin's legacy and whether the Steelers should go in a new direction if they fail to make the playoffs.
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“The only Willie Colon I know is the Spanish singer”😂😂😂
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Ocho a real one for that 😂
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He's my uncle!
3rd string QBS winning and getting to the playoffs EVERY YEAR and I'm a Ravens fan dude is incredible
Thank you bro
Broncos fan here 💯 agree. Man makes a proper meal without the full complement of ingredients and Steeler fans are complaining! They better be careful they don’t get what they asking for they’ll regret it! Plus Steeler org gets brownie points for getting 2 quarterbacks for cheap. Steelers fans are spoilt!
overated no one cares
@@wolfsznit’s a shame because I just know you are a Steelers fan, it seems like it’s only our fans who doesn’t appreciate the man
@@mauricecotman7306 pretty much
The Steelers are on the hot seat, because when Tomlin decides he's had enough, they're gonna struggle to replace him.
We go see if you’re right or not😎
I mean he was a nobody when the Steelers got him so was coach Mr chin lol
If he can get creative coordinators on both sides of the ball I believe he’ll be fine
@@Steelix371 he definitely wasn’t a nobody 🤣🤣
I think the Steelers can replace winning 1 Super Bowl In what’s close to a 20 year coaching tenure just fine.
Willie Colon was a starter on the 2008 Super Bowl team and started every game he’s played 100/100. His words mater a little
Tomlin will never be on the hot seat he'll leave on his own terms I put everything on that 💯🖤💛💪🏾
His been there for a long time, he aint going no where!!
Yep coach noll and bill cowher both left on their own terms.
#steelers nation second that opinion 🎉
Protection of racial quotas.
Steelers aren't in the business of changing head coaches every 5 minutes. Since 1969 they've had 3 head coaches: Chuck Noll, Bill Cowherd, and Mike Tomlin. Name another team that can say that!
Steelers fan here. I'm laughing my ass off listening to Ocho talk about not knowing who WIllie Colon is and calling him a nobody. Love it. I mean, he was a decent lineman, but it wasn't like hew as a superstar. He wasn't a scrub by any means though.
Steeler fan here, when you gotta google someones name you kinda are a nobody.
@@enigma13fflike you
@@renaldojasonlike you
Willie was a dawg
Willie has a ring, OCHO doesn’t
“I know Willie Parker” 😂😂😂😂😂
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Shout out to Ocho for knowing the Spanish singer Willie Colon!!! Baya!!!
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Only difference between mike t and others is even wit bad qb production he's never had a losing season
Exactly he doesn’t have the highs of a Kyle Shanahan as of late but he has none of the extreme lows
Are you trying to win superbowls or have a winning season? Bro has done nothing since Bill Cowhers players retired.
@@SKVLiN3😂😂😂 yall still on that false as narrative because now it’s Omar the gm get the players but back then it was the coach yall just like to give credit to the people yall like & act like the ones u don’t have no input into the positive outcomes
@@manolopmbwhat's the expectation of the steelers? Honest question
@@shadow_td do the Steelers have a team that can go win a super bowl? Do you think any other coach can get that team last year to the playoffs with all the bullshit that went down?
Mike T leaves when Mike T wants! He is a leader of men and a damn good one at that. He’s the reason the Steelers have stayed afloat as they try to navigate without an Elite QB. Most teams would be bottom feeders and Mike is just staying above 500. Until he gets a guy. This year he got 2 guys, upgraded Oline and a great defense. Watch him shine this year and make sure this convo never gets brought up again! #Herewego
He’s like John Thompson was at Georgetown: it’s his job until he decides he no longer wants it. Unlike Belichick and Robert Kraft, Tomlin and the Rooneys are like family.
If he wins games he “supposed to win” but loses games he “shouldn’t lose” wouldn’t that mean he wins those games too lol
Exactly what I was thinking lol
I think in hindsight like if they can beat the bengals under no NORMAL circumstances should they lose to teams like the patriots, raiders, panthers, saints i think is what the point is
That also means you mediocre...and since when have the steelers including coach Tomlin have been satisfied with mediocre
He don’t win games he’s supposed to they lose their first playoff game every year , he’s overrated
bro that ahit fucked me up too lol
If ocho is defending the Steelers then you know someone said some dumbass shit😂
If there was an hall of fame for making excuses, ocho would be 1st ballot.
You can't win playoff games with below average QBs. Not too many coaches can do what he has done with no QB.
@@michaelrandle7296thing is Tomlin let it happen. Kenny was never that guy to begin with. Mitchell was trash, Mason was never given a chance since the Myles Garrett incident. Tomlin let bad qb play and diva receivers happen
@@AlejandroSanchez-pl6jwbro weak argument and mason was fuckin trash he had a whole year and then 2 games after and was still garbage he had a chance
@@michaelrandle7296yea they kept Ben too long and they didn’t have his replacement
For real, this channel would be so much better if Ocho was replaced with someone else
As a Steelers fan myself? I Love Coach T! 👌🏼 but there’s definitely a large demographic of Stillers fans who’ve been calling for his job for 5-6 years now… I don’t FW those folks tho! 😆 there’s nobody who can replace Tomlin! And everyone would LOVE to bring him in! We always pick on the bottom end of the draft and still get a winning record! We’re not ever gonna tank and draft top 10 NEVER!!! We have some ignorant and salty fans NGL!
That's right. bring a brother down who made it to the playoffs with a 10 - 7 record and never had a losing season. He is the best long-term coach in the NFL right now, bar none.
Stop the cap Andy Reid,harbaugh in the league you know lol
@@mackenzieyoung5306 yea😂 reid i think was like tomlin getting to rhe playoffs but losing but now? Reids about to make history and for some its basically done and confirmed
@@mackenzieyoung5306 Harbaugh and Tomlin are the same coach, NFL version Doc Rivers, living off old rings
@@mackenzieyoung5306 tomlin better then harbaugh
@mackenzieyoung5306 Who is there QB though? Then who is Steelers QB
Bro why ocho flaming willie like this 😂😂😂
Tomlin has not had a lot of Play Off success recently because he has literally been dragging Teams that have no business being in the post season into it. You can't exactly bitch that they lose against actual Play Off Teams in the Play Offs. Steelers Fans need to just relax and be thankful for what we have.
Thank you it’s hard to say this over and over it’s getting annoying
And Big Ben was dog shit in the playoffs
Getting tebowed… killer b’s nothing came of it… under achieved as much as possible.
They lost those games with Mitch trubisky
If Tomlin gets fired, he will have no problem getting another job. The inability to get higher draft picks eventually reduces a teams abilities. He does not "pass the buck". And, he does things on the field or in the locker room, not the press. If he has the talent, he will win. A little success and the same critics will start raving about his coaching ability.
"A Spanish singer" 😂😂😂😂😂
I don’t think anyone questions Mike T’s ability. He’s elite and one of the best coaches since he was named the Steelers HC, but it’s objective fact that he hasn’t won a playoff game since 2015. Even the lowly Browns have a more recent playoff win than him. And we Get it he’s never had a losing season but when you’re the Pittsburgh Steelers we all know the standard is not above .500, it’s Super Bowl expectations. I love Chad but he just refuses to be objective, what does it matter if you don’t know the man? Nobody can hold an opinion if their name isn’t known? First they say oh you didn’t play so what you say don’t matter, then they flip it and say oh you played but you wasn’t that good so you’re opinion don’t count. Stop the BS
They are in the playoffs consistently. With no QB. He Tomlin isn’t there they are a 5-12 team.
Much respect for Mike Tomlin. I know nothing about the situation in Pittsburg. However, Mike Tomlin is a proven winner and I am confident will continue a winning tradition.
Steelers don't get rid of coaches like the rest of the NFL, as they only has had 3 in the franchise history. Mike Tomlin will definitely leave on his own accord. #facts
Noll
Cowher
Tomlin
That’s it. Remarkable stability and all three have won Super Bowls and had consistent winning seasons.
Coach Tomlin will never be on the hot seat, he's never had a losing season. 😂
Exactly because if Pittsburgh would have just did what the falcons did going third straight years 7-10 the city would have exploded & the talk would be damn we can even get to .500 🤣
Ridiculous, and I’m a ravens fan. That man Tomlin is absolutely amazing. I understand in recent years it’s been rough but he’s built a strong enough culture with his guys where he can take a subpar roster and make the playoffs. As long as that man is at the helm, the Steelers are in the conversation. Sure they might get bounced first round but context is key. Bens last few years he had no O line and Matt Canada. Then they draft a big wimp in Kenny Pickett, while the rest of their team was ready to compete. Tomlin tried to do rught by pickett but unfortunately that kid did not have what it took to be a leader of a team. Watch what happens this year, as much as it pains me to say it, they’re gonna be really good. Arthur Smith fits what they want to do on offense, and that defense is absolutely stacked. They also have not 1 but 2 viable QB options and can do a multitude of different things with the both of them. And they’re both playing for dirt cheap. Give coach Tomlin and the Steelers front office their flowers while they’re here, Steelers fans.
Chad Thank You For the laughs bro !!!😂😂😂😂 ...Oh and im a Steelers Fan!! 😂
Willie Colon
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Tomlin isn’t on the hot seat, and will leave on his terms.
This is coming from a real Steelers fan born one ! IT’s generational with me I have no other team in any sports just a die hard fan so let me start by saying I understand we 0-4 in the playoffs since 2017 but let’s be honest tomlin come out every year and give us a chance to compete !!! This is the first time in a long time we have mad crazy move during free agency and a good change at qb I can’t see my self bashing tomlin because we had Mitch at qb for one of the lost and don’t forget Najee fumbled in Indy it’s more on the players for me ! Even before Ben did alot of bs during the end of his career and the team was re building while still being competitive and real fans know how rebuild is some teams take years ! And go year after year with no hope I honestly hope him and Russell win a superbowl this year and he just retire and we get some dumb coach who knows nothing and then they will see how spoiled we been for years
Ravens fan here, Chad is right. Steelers need Tomlin , not sure if it is the other way around
Mike Tomlin is a winner where ever goes! He dealt with Antonio Brown!
If Coach T has never had a losing season how is he gonna get a top Quarterback in the draft Coach T is playing the cards he dealt n hasn’t been set in 17 years
We drafted roman wilson from Michigan. Ran a 4.39 and tbh I feel like hes a day one starter. Also signed van Jefferson who's had a 1000 receiving yard season before in the NFL and and qwez Watkins who also has 4.3 speed and is at a good size and also has had a 1000 yard season. I like our receiver room tbh
A coach is responsible for the team playing well … We do that on a consistent basis. Honestly that’s not even a question yes we may lose to team we shouldn’t but that bcus our QB play is lackluster and once our team decides to wake up we’re in a ball game. We also win ones people think we shouldn’t
Well I think the criticism is due to a almost flat line tenure here lately from Tomlin and the Steelers. Fans want more than one and done in the playoffs.
IM SURPISED THAT OCHO KNOWS WHO WILLIE COLON IS!! hahaha he is a Latino culture legend
I think if the exact same thing happens again this year (playoffs but eliminated right away) then you can start looking at the coaching staff and ask "why is this not working"
Problem with the Steelers is they're in no-man's-land:
• no QB
• not good enough to be a SB contender
• but too good to get top picks in the draft (because of Tomlin pulling W's out of nowhere)
they haven't had a qb... if they did fire him he will go to a great situation because he will be the best coach available
he's been doing a great job considering the qb room
Look at the Chicago bears they complain and complain about Lovie Smith. So they let him go. Look at Chicago now.They regret letting Lovie Smith go. Football is about long term plans. Some of your greatest dynasties will rise to the highest peak of the mountain. And they will have a long term in the valleys.Before they get back up again. That's why the game is so good.
Lovie at Illinois with that gray beard was epic though!!
Steelers fan here. Ochocinco is a realist always liked him on and off the field!
I know Willie Parker lmao
This debate is laughable. Mike T ain’t going anywhere. Lmao who cares what Willie Colon says .
Pittsburgh has two quarterbacks and a boat load of wide receivers and tight ends.........
Everyone likes to bring up how Tomlin never had a sub-.500 regular season record but talk to me about that 3-8 playoff record in the past 12-13 years. People have no problem killing QBs over their performances in the playoffs (Lamar, Dak, Cousins, Rodgers) or coming after certain coaches for poor decision making in the playoffs (Shanahan, Harbaugh, Mccarthy) but somehow Tomlin always gets a pass for this. Reminder that Tomlin had a HOF QB for nearly ever year he's been in Pittsburgh, he was involved in selecting Kenny Pickett to replace Big Ben and he had AB, Juju and Martayvis Bryant as his WR trio for a minute too.
Just for the record: Mike Mccarthy had around a 60% win rate in the regular season and about a 55% win rate in the post-season while in Green Bay and everyone killed him for not being able to win another ring. Tomlin has a similar regular season win rate and around a 45% win rate in the post-season and the last time he made it to a Super Bowl he lost to *checks notes* Mike Mccarthy...
Everybody loves never going below .500 but eurosteps that playoff record. The goal is not to stay above .500 it’s to win a Super Bowl.
As a Steelers fan, I agree. I think he's a good coach, obviously. It's impossible to say he's bad. But the fact that he's had Ben for nearly his entire tenure and the team can never seem to get over the hump in the playoffs is pretty bad.
@@nigamnation Again, if you say he's not bad then you're also agreeing that Mike Mccarthy isn't that bad either since he has a better record than Tomlin does. Brandon Staley also never had a losing record in the regular season and people jumped on his head every chance they could.
If a 9-8 record and getting bounced in the Wild Card round is fine with Steelers fans then idk what else to say lol.
@@N7Null I didn't say it was fine. I still think getting rid of a coach that "isn't bad" is still viable to potentially achieve a higher ceiling.
@@nigamnation I'd agree if this was like his 2nd year but he's going on nearly 2 decades. What's the definition of insanity again? 🤔
I agree with ocho about the receiver thing with Pittsburgh, but to be fair Pittsburgh is known for just being stupid good at developing receivers drafted in later rounds.
Ocho, you should know the former Steeler Willie Colon. He was the guy your Bengals faced from 2006 to 2010 when the Steelers were smacking y'all out of the way to go win a Super Bowl while you were trying to sneak up on Ray Lewis in Ravens games just to damn near give yourself a concussion.
Leave my MFn coach alone! Go Steelers 💛🖤💛🖤💛
Tomlin Has A Recliner. He Can Sit And Stretch Back Or Sit Up In His Recliner As A Please. Tomlin Will Leave When He's Ready Damn Sure Not Getting Fired! Retire Or Get Bought Out , But Fired, Hell Nawh!!!
I’m a huge Steelers fan and I swear I’ve grown to resent a huge part of the fans because they’re so spoiled and have zero idea how special Tomlin is. There’s only a small number of teams in the NFL that wouldn’t give Tomlin a blank check to coach their team. My response is always, what’s a better coach out there that’s available and guaranteed to replace him and bring a ring? To do better? And it’s just silence and no response every time. The good news is, there is no real hot seat. The people that could fire him do not want him gone. It’s just angry fans. Usually guys in their mid 40’s and 50’s that just complain about everything, so it doesn’t actually matter. He’s going nowhere.
As a Steelers fan since I was born in 2000 the Steelers will shut everyone up this year. Tomlin winning every year isn’t good enough for spoiled haters.
Still had a winning record 10-7 without a QB and in a very thought division. So no not yet
Tomlin will get a three-year extension before the start of training camp. The Steelers are ready for a deep playoff run right now.
Especially since they improved their quarterback room🫵🏿
Why is Sean Payton not on the hot seat?
Other teams with QB issues don't have winning records in spite of those issues normally.
Bro the issue is even when we had a QB we were still mediocre sometimes people don’t understand that
@NedyahFox Everyone whines and cries but the alternative is far worse. Besides this is only Omars second draft and this is rebuild not a retool since Colbert's sorry ass finally stepped down. Omar and Weidle finally got us offensive line since Colbert took DeCastro in the first round. In case you haven't noticed no steeler coach gets fired they just retire and the Rooney family doesn't listen to fandom.
@@41Steeler I’m not saying fire tomlin I’m just saying tell him win soon or ur gone simple as that
@NedyahFox you do realize folks said the same thing about Bill Cowher? Only difference there was no social media. I've been fan since the Chuck Noll days and will ride with Pittsburgh through all the ups and downs because there's only a few teams with the same amount of hardware and they're going through more than us. Omar has them going in the right direction. To me Colbert not embracing newer aspects of talent evaluation held us back and not having a clear succession plan for Ben's departure messed us up. But Tomlin found ways to get this team win games in spite of a lot. I wish the kept Flores as the defensive coordinator though.
Love ocho !!! They hate on Mike T and every damn player wants to play for this man! We got Roman Wilson in the draft
Chad is the star of nightcap. I don’t know who Willie Colon is either.
The other coaches that deal with qb issues are not making the playoffs and at least having a shot every year he still puts them in a position every single year to do something these other coaches with qb problems are going to 5-12 4-13 6-11 he it’s still putting a competitive team out there with a qb problem that should speak on his coaching some
OMG! Steelers fans know Colon, Super Bowl 43 starting OL.
they are mad that he wont tank for a season so they can finally draft another good qb lmaooo
They just got a great QB. Russ was a “STEEL” (see how I did that?). 😂
In my Willie voice… Chad tryna play me he no me 😂😂😂😂
Look Tomlin ain’t perfect but replacing him is just not worth it based on the results he’s given you and the rosters he’s had. Has he made bad OC hires consistently? Yes. But have the FO also made a lot of mistakes that he’s bailed them out for by keeping the team afloat? Yes. Every Steelers player, even the crazy ones like AB, still love and respect Tomlin because he is a bonafide leader of men, and you don’t just find that anywhere
Tomlin is a leader. I just think he enjoys being the smartest guy in the room too much. I think the coordinators for a spell have been Tomlin yes men.
That must be why all the players wild out under him and why Ben has come out and said the Steelers might need to be torn down and rebuilt because the way the players behave isn't the Black and Gold way.
@@N7Null 1. The players that have bugged out under him have also bugged out other places(D. Johnson is in Carolina now so we’ll see how he does) so it’s the player that’s the problem in those situations not Tomlin and the Steelers have been known for drafting “eccentric” personalities for 2 decades now so blame the entire FO too
2. Ben has said he still respects Tomlin despite the criticisms and he also put some of that on the players for not holding themselves accountable either
@@marcusjackson8084 You didn't see Juju doing his Tiktok dances when he went to KC or now that he's in New England. The lack of leadership and accountability is why players like Juju, AB and George Pickens could act the way they did. Tomlin is hands off when it comes to managing his player personalities and Shannon said the Steelers ownership is hands off when it comes to firing their coaches. Attitude reflects leadership. When the leadership in the org is acting like parents away on vacation, they shouldn't be surprised when they come back to find out their kids have been throwing house parties.
With our current wr room I would have kept Diontae but hopefully they make a trade🤞🏼
Sharpe been on shaq-Dwight level hating recently and idk why
"You're name don't hold no weight." Then, "no disrespect"? 😂😂 wild disrespectful.
I'm one Steelers fan who thought it's been long overdue to move on. Any other franchise would have been moved on. Tomlin isn't a bad coach but why do people think he's owed a lifetime appointment when almost every great coach has been fired before. What makes Tomlin so different?
Also Willie Colon was solid in Pittsburgh and for The Jets. He lasted a lot longer than Willie Parker lol
As they say "it's better to work with the Devil you know than the one you don't know".
@SteelerSteve So basically you're saying Tomlin is the only coach in the league who deserves a lifetime HC job with The Steelers? Legendary coaches have been fired. Tomlin is no different
Big mistake to fire Mike Tomlin
Unless tomlin does somthing illegal he isn't getting fired. That job is his until he retires or steps away. Just like the only other two head coaches
Colon is a regular on The Carton Show - an FS1 morning show. So he has a platform as well. And since that’s a network Shannon knows well, it would be best to know about these players in the media game when critiquing their comments.
Ocho just talks for the sake of talking sometimes and thinks he's making a point if he says it with enough conviction. Terry Bradshaw said Tomlin wasn't a great coach like 7 years ago and Ben has criticized the lack of leadership on the team since he left. Willie is also a Super Bowl champion but you already know Ocho doesn't care (read as: "know") about that.
@@N7Null Agreed. A quick search on Willie Colon would show he’s on the Carton Show. Love Nightcap but just a bit more research please
Let’s call up Cam newton
Omar Khan has a working relationship before he was the GM. Kevin Colbert should have been on the hotseat years ago. Omar almost got away from because Dan Rooney is loyal to a fault and should have let Kevin go.
The only Willie I know is Willie falcon
Willie go set down somewhere!Child please!!!!! Chad never lies...
Thank you Ocho!!
As a Steelers fan I love Coach T!!.. I think this is his last season in Pittsburgh..
The more and more I watch these, I don’t think I’ve ever seen anyone with more excuses for all these different situations than 85 and I love him coo 😭 saving relationships ig tho
Not playoff wins in 8 years. Mccarthy won a playoff game more recently than Tomlin and people have been calling for his head every year.
Let Tomlin go watch his phone blow up especially the cowboys would be calling people are crazy;
the main problem is the fact that he able to get water from stone. his ability to end .500 or better is what puts them in these situations on mediocre QB players, would it hurt to go like 3-14 one year
If Tomlin is on the hot seat then half the coaches need to be
Well they are
There was a massive turn over. Tomlin has a Super Bowl Ring. Rothlisburger retired and the had no offensive line with the retirement of Decastro and Pouncy.. They have addressed these issues through the draft and free agency. Steelers are gonna be fine and so will Tomlin.
When you got a Bengal sticking up for a Steeler speaks more than a Steeler talking 💩 on a Steeler…
The Steelers are the opposite of Carolina and David Tepper
Yeah, he drops some games that he shouldn't, but he also picks up some wins when he shouldn't.
This is just off season chatter bc by this standard where’s the John harbaugh video from sharpe. What post season success has he had since the 9ers Super Bowl
Tomlin is fine. I don't see Pittsburgh getting rid of him.
Love and appreciate the Steelers for not seeing race I’m not even a Steelers fan like that but the fans are supportive and straight up 😂😂but I think if this season doesn’t go well. He needs to be done
Willie is correct.
If the goal is to be good in the regular season Tomlin shouldn’t be on the hot seat. If the goal is to actually win a superbowl he should be heading out the door after this season if he fails to win a playoff game. 1 Super Bowl win ,with a team who’s core was built by his predecessor, in what’s been almost a 20 year head coaching tenure isn’t enough, especially for a team who’s supposed to be a “cornerstone” franchise.
I remember Willie....however...as Ocho said....he doesn't hold any weight.
Exactly what my Falcons did.,. after 2 or 3 good years of Kirk, we'll have MPjr
We have this conversation every single year, he’s not going anywhere
The Steelers as a WHOLE are on the hot seat! You cannot continue to lose to bad teams.
He had Ben for a lot of years and only won one ring in how many years? 17 damn years bro
Shannon, I want to hear you talk about how awful a GM Elway was and he was the sole reason why Denver was so bad for so long during his front office tenure. That would be what Willie just did to Coach T
He doesn’t speak to ill of whites. He knows better.
Ben was on the tail end?😂
Let’s just get the facts straight Mike Tomlin, and the Steelers have been mediocre at best for quite a long time right now, at some point you will have to make changes if things don’t turn around.
Mike Tomlin is a good coach but he doesn’t do the Steelers any favors anymore. They just constantly go 0.500 every year just to lose in the first round. The team staying mid every year keeps them from getting better draft picks. He hasn’t won a super bowl in 15 years. It’s time for both parties to move on.
I don't even know remember a Willie Colon.
However, Mike has not had the same team, and a long time. Since AB LEFT. I KNOW WE DONT WANT TO ADMIT IT, BUT ITS TRUE.
I won't even mention QB. We have had.
But to address the Elephant 🐘 in the room. Mike has done more with less, since 2020. Let's be real.
The elephant in the room is he hasn't won a playoff game since Obama was President. And in 2020 the Steelers were a 12 win team and got rinsed by the Browns of all teams in the playoffs. And even if you want to talk about the team he had with the triple Bs, that team only made one conference championship where they got pummelled by the Patriots.
@unc54 I got time today.
1. You are right. We haven't won a playoff game, that where it matters the most.
2. That 2020 team was fraudulent at best and had several holes in it. Their run game was a short passing game. By week 8, most team had them figured out, and by week 13, they were a mess. That was the last year Big Ben was Big Ben.
3. With the triple B you've got me their. We should have at least 2 super bowls with that roster alone. However, ego were their Demise.
In back to my point. We have seen this man do more with less in the last 4 years, than any other head coach. If you gave him the Cowboys, eagles, bills, browns, Ravens, or any other top 10 teams. He is winning a super bowl.