Big Power in the Palm of Your Hand - TDA7498E 160+160 watts

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  • čas přidán 22. 08. 2024
  • Possibly the most powerful amp in our "Chinese Mini Amp Invasion - Part 2" round of tests? Let's check out the TDA7498E, rated to deliver 160x2 at 4 ohms, with a 36 volt input. Further checking shows this rating is at 10% THD and the 1% THD rating is 125x2. As we expect today with amplifier ratings, show a misleading number to attract potential buyers...but for under $20 USD, should we expect anything more?
    Watch me show off the amp, perform a sound test then put the palm-sized TDA7468E on the Amp Dyno to check it's true output at both 1kHz and 40Hz. Will it perform up to par or is it just another overrated amplifier? Gotta watch to find out!
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Komentáře • 518

  • @wal
    @wal  Před 7 lety +65

    Full disclosure: I purchased this amp, it was not provided by the manufacturer. All of the opinions in this video are my own and the content wasn't reviewed by anyone prior to posting. Affiliate link is placed below for your convenience. I receive a portion of the sales from these links, which help me bring you more unbiased content for this channel.
    TDA7498E 160+160 watts - goo.gl/dw9LbO

    • @MrBrymstond
      @MrBrymstond Před 7 lety +1

      These things are crazy for the price, but what is the amount of watts for it to be totally clean?

    • @MrBrymstond
      @MrBrymstond Před 7 lety +3

      Thanks, but you're getting at least 1% THD at these settings correct? I'm thinking 40~50 watts @ 4ohm @ 0.01 THD Clean Rating? So I can figure out which speakers to buy. My PA system is 6200 watts, but I never use all of that because I want it as clean as possible and the same idea with my guitar amps. I using 2 full stacks running at 220 watts @ 2ohm 2 heads and 2 top and bottom speaker cabs a total of 16 12 inch, 440 watts @ 2ohm stereo to get the cleanest sound (Headroom) I'll use at the most 180~200 watts and normally a total of 100 watts when I play clean and picking from that 440 watt People tell me it's overkill but when I hear them play clean, it's still distorted because they're pushing their 100 watt head or amp to 80% I only push mine at 20~40% and the amp heads last longer. All about the headroom. I played some really big venues Larkfest was 80,000 people so I do need the power regardless

    • @amb3cog
      @amb3cog Před 7 lety +1

      MrBrymstond Pretty sure these tests were done @ 1% THD. Just to give you an idea. And it all depends on your definition of clean. Some claim you can hear 1%. Other people say anything under 3% is fine. This is very limited in it's uses really. He says it doesn't have good bass. So probably terrible dynamics. Low damping factor. Zero soundstage most likely. I wouldn't expect great vocals. Maybe good for computer speakers alongside a powered sub? Plenty of clean power for that I'm sure.

    • @amb3cog
      @amb3cog Před 7 lety +2

      MrBrymstond I wrote my last comment earlier, but just posted it.
      Actually if you pause the video and look at the specs it says 0.05% THD @ 1 watt.

    • @amb3cog
      @amb3cog Před 7 lety

      MrBrymstond And I totally agree about headroom. Plus the dynamics are WAY better with more power. Your speakers really come alive with more power.

  • @dennishill9873
    @dennishill9873 Před 4 lety +20

    So, my employer pulled me to the side and asked me to stop saying “ you big dummy” when they make a mistake at work. 🤣🤣🤣. Thanks Big D

  • @mgodlasky
    @mgodlasky Před 7 lety +6

    Hey Big D, i appreciate you taking the time (and coin) to run these tests. I've got some bluetooth speakers I want to build as Xmas gifts this year, and several of the boards I'm considering are on your Chinese Invasion 2 list. I know the D'Amore/SMD AD-1 dyno ain't cheap, and it's great to see a regular audio guy that's out there testing anything and everything with it!

  • @HifiVega
    @HifiVega Před 7 lety +34

    Oh snap! You've got that new Nike meter setup.

    • @amb3cog
      @amb3cog Před 7 lety +5

      hifivega That's the Air Jordan edition too. TOTL! If you have to ask. You can't afford it.

  • @Dr.Billions
    @Dr.Billions Před 3 lety +2

    This is the kind of review/testing I like. With technical details!

  • @DrTune
    @DrTune Před 6 lety +1

    Thanks, nice to see someone doing proper tests; that's exactly what I was looking for. I appreciate it very much!

  • @nubie1100
    @nubie1100 Před 4 lety +1

    This is what I used to make my bluetooth speaker and it turned out not a bad little 4x speaker. Defo loud enough for me. Glad I done it

  • @jesperbremer9293
    @jesperbremer9293 Před 5 lety +25

    Hi BigDWiz
    Thx a lot 4 testing "China-Boards" it's very interesting, to see what you get for almost nothing. I have done a lot of testing myself and i suggest you put at least 2x22000uF 50V capacitors in parallel, very close to the amp power terminals (max 4 inch thick cable between capacitor and terminal). Then you will get some different data! These boards are very sensitive to supply's ability to handle PEAK-currents. ALSO the wire you use in your test from booster to amp, is way too thin! 320W total RMS@36V = 9A RMS! So current at the top of sinewave = 18A (4ohm load), So if the amp is 90% efficient at best, you must calculate with a minimum of 20A@36V running 4 ohms. So try to put on some 8 AWG (10mm2) wire and test again, then you will be surprised!!
    If you put a scope on the amp's power terminals, when running the test, you will see what i mean...
    Best regards Jesper from Denmark..

    • @andreaselme4127
      @andreaselme4127 Před 5 lety +1

      Are the caps to provide extra current for power peaks? Is that what the two rows of large caps on the board are for? And so would upgrading them be any good?

    • @jesperbremer9293
      @jesperbremer9293 Před 5 lety +4

      @@andreaselme4127 yes, pwm (digital) amps draw serious current peaks, thats why you always see rows of capacitors, and the bigger, the better. It needs to be very low ESR-caps, thats why there usually is several medium sized in parallel, the ripple current peaks in 300KHz to 1MHz, so low internal resistance in hf region is important.

    • @incorporeal3793
      @incorporeal3793 Před 5 lety +1

      Hey Jesper, may I pick your brain for a second about the voltage booster, as you seem to know what you're talking about....I'm using a couple of car amps for home use and running them from PSU's. I'm guessing the PSU is under-powering them at 12v, would using the booster to make it up to 14v (if I can) make any noticeable difference to the amps output?

    • @jrod1125420
      @jrod1125420 Před 5 lety +1

      @@incorporeal3793 probably not tbh, the power supply can only output so much power on the 12v rail, so even boosting it to 14v wont help alot because the main power is stil coming form the power supply. Getting a larger wattage power supply would help id bet

    • @JohnDoe-mx1sq
      @JohnDoe-mx1sq Před 5 lety

      Jesper, good info, thanks. The boost converter is only rated to 20A, it's possible that might be hitting the limit too.
      Have you ever run your TDA boards at their maximum rated voltage? I'm reading the spec sheet and it specifies 45V as max DC input voltage. It seems you could reasonably get an extra ~10% by bumping it up to 40V.
      Incorp, you can do that but you're still limited to the current output of the power supply into the DC/DC boost. You can put multiple PSU's in parallel or a really big one to get a lot of 12V current and feed a big boost board.

  • @blaube
    @blaube Před 5 lety +2

    The lack of blue tooth or audio controls isn't a negative unless the application requires it.

  • @08ds
    @08ds Před 7 lety +4

    Man, love these videos, thank you. Would have loved to see what this amp can do in BTL though. Looking forward to your video on that DC/DC boost...

  • @lupuradu
    @lupuradu Před 4 měsíci

    I've just blown this up this morning, brand new, i only got it delivered yesterday, now it's on its way back to Amazon.
    Tested it this morning just to see if there was any sound coming out, i tested it on my subwoofer by replacing the TPA3116D2 mono module i usually run on, it appeared to push my woofer less than the 3116.
    Therefore, knowing that i bought it to use it bridged for the subwoofer only, i've bridged those J1-J2-J3-J4 and thank god i've i've been cautios and i didn't hook it up to the woofer or the computer.
    It lasted 1 second long after being powered on, made a big POP, smoke, so i promptly shut off the 24v power supply.
    Curious to see what happened, i've removed the heatsink and i've found a SMD 202 resistor being slightly bulged.
    Although the bridges were soldered up accordingly to the scheme on the board, and me having hooked up just the left channel (BLT) from the NE5532 pre-amp, i've removed the bridges and decided to give it another go, no matter the result : an ever bigger POP, and 3 legs chopped off the TDA chip.
    This has to be the crappiest board i've ever got my hands on, they didn't even bother shoving in a manual telling you how to operate it, i just had to take my guess and look at how other people did it (that didn't go to well i suppose lmao).

  • @maxrockbin
    @maxrockbin Před 6 lety +3

    It'd be interesting to see higher freq. results than 1khz because that's where Class D amps tend to fail - distortion-wise.

  • @jk-76
    @jk-76 Před 7 lety +16

    A couple of these and a minidsp. I imagine a decent low buck mid-fi living room system...

    • @wal
      @wal  Před 7 lety +1

      +J& K not bad

    • @yurianhuizing2352
      @yurianhuizing2352 Před 4 lety +1

      Ordered 2 of these, use a 4channel dsp use 2 6.5 a 3inch scans peak dome and a 1inch Dayton dome. A 600watt power supply. Im going to build a active center speaker

  • @kaptnjohannesbrassmann7499

    I use 3 of them on a 24V LED Power Source for my surround speakers. Awesome!

    • @iwillbuycocainefromyou
      @iwillbuycocainefromyou Před 4 lety

      hey im trying to do a project thats something along those lines, could you share a diagram or something so i get everything right before i pull the trigger?

  • @tgirard123
    @tgirard123 Před 5 lety +1

    I wonder if the lack of bass response was do to the boost converter. I don't have any proof and I really don't understand how the converter works but I know that big beefy power supplies with large caps are used on home audio amps for just that reason (Better bass response) Buying one of these today to play with. Thanks Big Deeeeeeee!

  • @coryscustominstalls7168

    Thanks for doing these videos I have been looking at a couple myself thinking of doing a mini Bluetooth boom box with them. I was unsure of there actual performance ,now to buy a couple and we will see how they stand up long term.
    Keep up the good work!

    • @wal
      @wal  Před 7 lety

      +CorysCustomInstalls this one is the most powerful I've tested thus far, but not my favorite. I think the TPA3116/3118 models sound better

    • @coryscustominstalls7168
      @coryscustominstalls7168 Před 7 lety

      BigDWiz yea I would have to play around in sketchup, figure out what I could do for a sub channel maby a 6x9 I know RF makes a nice 2way that might fit the bill. I'm thinking this would out preform 80% of the Bluetooth speakers on the market right now although it's gonna be 10x larger... big size comes big sound I guess

  • @josephsaucedo8691
    @josephsaucedo8691 Před 2 lety

    If you would of bridged it on the back you would be able to do the 2ohm test on it. that really what it really for. its a single channels amp so it doesn't bridge channels. it just allows you to run it at lower ohms. If any one wondering what it's really for. 🧐✌️

  • @RandallDibble
    @RandallDibble Před 6 lety +4

    How about a review of some Mods/upgrades for these amps ??

  • @wisdomdigital
    @wisdomdigital Před 5 lety +1

    I love ST chips. I've built a few amplifiers with them. You can make a nice little amplifier using only a few components and a single ST IC.

  • @der_pinguin44
    @der_pinguin44 Před 7 lety

    Whoa! Early notification! Awesome!
    BigDWiz, keep up the good work. I'm learning a lot.

    • @wal
      @wal  Před 7 lety +1

      +Der Pinguin 👍

  • @soundguymatt
    @soundguymatt Před rokem

    These work really well for efficient Biamp line array pa speakers. Double 8 inch 8 ohm woofers down to 4 ohms on 1 channel for mids and a compression driver on the other channel for highs. Use a external crossover and bam they DRIVE plenty enough for concerts. There is a small 36 volt 5 amp Ac to dc power supply you can get on ebay for 10 dollars and I add a couple 10000 uf capacitors on the output of the power supply for a dynamic buffer. Cost about 40 dollars per cabinet to power excluding the xlr connectors and ac power switch. Reply if you want more details

    • @dennissinger7880
      @dennissinger7880 Před rokem

      Wuzhi audio build new tda7498e board , verry nice wondom Design.

  • @pyramydseven
    @pyramydseven Před 5 lety +1

    World's greatest channel, period.

    • @wal
      @wal  Před 5 lety +1

      Thanks for watching and commenting!

    • @pyramydseven
      @pyramydseven Před 4 lety +1

      @@wal Can I contact you for a few questions please?

  • @McCuneWindandSolar
    @McCuneWindandSolar Před 4 lety +4

    do you have a hole list of these small amps. I like to find a good one for blue tooth for my next speaker build.

  • @chrish7927
    @chrish7927 Před 6 lety +1

    Bought this amp and literally smoked it when I shorted the speaker leads for only a moment. So, be careful it has zero short circuit protection. Other than that it sounds pretty good on my Polk Atrium 8 speakers. Bought a second one so each amp can drive one speaker. Will drive both of them with a 36v 15A power supply I bought.

    • @1pcfred
      @1pcfred Před 4 lety

      What do you expect for the price? They build this cheap crap with counterfeit parts. That includes the IC.

    • @chrish7927
      @chrish7927 Před 4 lety

      @@1pcfred Yea. A lot of the chips are actually counterfeit TDA7498 not even counterfeit TDA7498E. Looks like he got something closer to a TDA7498E on his.

  • @BentonL
    @BentonL Před 7 lety +15

    Should have done a run with the input sensitivity set to max. Lot of these low cost amps have quirky settings.

    • @wal
      @wal  Před 7 lety +5

      That is fo sho

    • @BentonL
      @BentonL Před 7 lety +2

      Thanks for posting. Hopefully you did not take my comment in harsh way.

    • @wal
      @wal  Před 7 lety +8

      Not at all. I appreciate all feedback, including constructive criticism

  • @vettonator
    @vettonator Před 7 lety +1

    Thanks Bigdwiz for all the work you put into these videos. I know you stated the bass output was weak, but I'm wandering how much this could be helped by equalization. When you do these tests, could you also measure the output at bass frequencies? This would give us all a better idea of what it's capable of with some equalization.

    • @wal
      @wal  Před 7 lety +2

      +vettonator I show both 1kHz and 40Hz results near the end of the video. They are pretty close. The bass was ok, don't get me wrong, but I was expecting it to be stronger with the output power measured. It may be a limitation of the chip itself. The TI based chips do a better job (TPA3116/3118) sound much more deep and dynamic to my ears

    • @vettonator
      @vettonator Před 7 lety +1

      BigDWiz oh my bad I guess I should pay closer attention before saying something. You've got me seriously thinking about building some kind of badass little Bluetooth speaker with one of these amps.

  • @CriticoolHit
    @CriticoolHit Před 7 lety +2

    Even though it didn't hit rated. For less than 20 bucks that was still pretty impressive. I'm sure that what you trade is longevity but its a step in the right direction for the red team.

    • @wal
      @wal  Před 7 lety +1

      Fo sho, not a bad deal

  • @TheJPhutchins
    @TheJPhutchins Před 7 lety

    You are THE MAN, man! Keep up the good work

  • @GeorgeGeorge-xj2bc
    @GeorgeGeorge-xj2bc Před 4 lety

    The output wattage comes from the theory also.Power=Volt^2 / Ohm,36v ^ 2 / 8=162 watt.Very good but it is not made for a lifetime,nor operation in full power and it is good as long as it lasts.

  • @topnotchcontent
    @topnotchcontent Před rokem

    That's a good amp for a component system for sure! It must sound good with crossovers!

  • @thenotoriousrvh6091
    @thenotoriousrvh6091 Před 6 lety

    I was too distracted by the autographed shoe box to watch anything else 😂😂.

  • @BuhdFrankDaTank93
    @BuhdFrankDaTank93 Před rokem

    please revisit these mini amps for their power and efficiency. Id like to build a boombox soon and would come in handy.

  • @Tbonyandsteak
    @Tbonyandsteak Před 4 lety

    What about testing B&O icepower moduls?
    They may be more expensive, but you get quite a lot also.
    It have auxiliary power for external filters, So you will not get any grounding problems.
    you can plug it directly from 240/120 ac power. So you will not need any transformers at all.
    It is used in very expensive B&0 products.
    So cheaper model will end up more expensive than B&0 products since they need transformers
    and rectifiers and capacitors.
    And it does not needs noisy fans either..
    Simply best amp for tiny places and easy plug and play modul.

  • @justins.1283
    @justins.1283 Před 4 lety

    One of these , that voltage booster , a Bluetooth module, and an old PC power supply seems like it would make a good amp that you could use in a garage, or a small cabin without a big investment to to a built-in system.

  • @HowDareYouu
    @HowDareYouu Před 7 lety +3

    do a quick bridged mode

  • @EngelbertHumperdinckTribute

    As I recall, it isn't recommended to run this amp powered at 36V continuously (if you want it to last any amount of time)

  • @pigbenis2812
    @pigbenis2812 Před 6 lety +2

    0:47 thanks for permission.

  • @freshkryp69
    @freshkryp69 Před 7 lety +1

    This is really cool! I want a diy (solder yourself type kit), real audio grade quality mono block 150-200 @ 4ohm would be great!

  • @DatBlueHusky
    @DatBlueHusky Před 7 lety +11

    This be a great amp bridged

  • @rawux1228
    @rawux1228 Před 4 lety +1

    Try LJM knockoff amp boards from ebay like L15, L20, L50. By trying them i believe they are pretty close to rated power. L50 really heats up my earthquake dbxi12d sub. Would be nice to se actual numbers

  • @kunalzshah
    @kunalzshah Před 5 lety +2

    What kind of bass and treble can you expect from this amp?

  • @seguetaspeed
    @seguetaspeed Před 7 lety

    Hey Big DWiz! Great reviews. I've been learning a lot from your videos. My question is (and maybe I searched wrong) have you done the Earthquake Mini D1000 series? I'm curious if these can power something like a Sundown SA-8 D4.

  • @porkchopspapi5757
    @porkchopspapi5757 Před 5 lety +1

    Would you mind sharing the reason you do listening tests through those extremely cheap speakers? How will you ever know when you find a really good deal in a amp?

    • @TheTechGuyYT
      @TheTechGuyYT Před 5 lety +1

      Porkchop's Papi because of a amp sounds good on cheap speakers , it will sound great on good speakers

    • @pliedtka
      @pliedtka Před 2 lety

      Crappy amp will sound lifeless, distorted on great spkrs comparing to great amp which is transparent, has good resolution, dynamics and very low subjective distortions (not THD). Often spkrs own colorations and distortions will hide amp problems.

  • @12villages
    @12villages Před 3 lety

    You might wanna check the output terminal labels. Mine were marked incorrectly. I checked using an oscilloscope. + and - speaker output is reversed on both channels.

  • @anthonyvolkman2338
    @anthonyvolkman2338 Před 6 lety

    Excellent vid and tests of amps!

  • @axelandru9346
    @axelandru9346 Před 5 lety

    I realize there is a nike shoes box, I pause, I write comment. !!!! Nostalgia :P ... I love you and your channel !!!!

    • @wal
      @wal  Před 5 lety

      Love you back ✌️

  • @rushanfernando5207
    @rushanfernando5207 Před 7 lety +5

    Thanks for another great video ! cool amp!

    • @wal
      @wal  Před 7 lety +3

      Thank you for watching and commenting!

  • @kswis
    @kswis Před 2 lety

    Man the beautiful copper heatsink is prob bout $18 on its own. Actually really cool amp. Thanks for sharing with is. I have a few 36v batteries that'd be excellent for this little guy.

  • @marianmoldovanu4959
    @marianmoldovanu4959 Před 4 lety +1

    Thank you for this video. I'm asked, what's the true watt power.
    Thanks.

  • @adarshraksh
    @adarshraksh Před 6 lety +1

    hey there, nice review.
    Would you recommend running this on a 2 ohm load? I got the 7498 and it runs pretty hot at 4 ohms itself

    • @lio1234234
      @lio1234234 Před 5 lety

      It might do, the 7498E is far more energy efficient than the 7498, it also handles lower ohms better. Don't know about 2 ohms though.

    • @saneeshsurendran991
      @saneeshsurendran991 Před 4 lety

      I bought a 7498e ic board .35volt gave 2amp power .The sound went off and the ic is not hot after 5 minutes

  • @deonpalmer5651
    @deonpalmer5651 Před 6 lety +1

    Would be great of you did one for a Bluetooth set up portable speaker type deal.
    Great video thou

  • @doddgarger6806
    @doddgarger6806 Před 4 lety

    Could build a strong set of powered near field monitors with this
    If you could just find one with dsp you could do some interesting stuff with active monitors and be less concerned about driver matching

  • @anthonycook8737
    @anthonycook8737 Před 7 lety +1

    Could you do a dyno test of one of the tas5630 2.1 channel amps? I'd love to see if they'll really do 150x2 AND 300x1 in that tiny package!

    • @wal
      @wal  Před 7 lety

      +Anthony Cook I have like 10 of the mini amps I haven't tested yet. The one you mention sounds very intriguing

  • @45llamas
    @45llamas Před 6 lety +1

    Awesome video!!! I use to buy this chinese amps for small projects!! haha
    also didnt you check if the voltage went down? the 36 volts?
    i would like you to make the same with the KNACRO 500W Mono amplifier!! is an insteresting board but will this get close to 500w? they sell it in amazon for 26 bucks!!!

  • @whirls007
    @whirls007 Před 6 lety +3

    I'm having the hardest time finding an amp that I can run both channels into one speaker. It sounds like you said that can be done with this amp?

    • @TeslaNick2
      @TeslaNick2 Před 4 lety

      Yep, this amp will run in BTL mode with both channels wired in parallel to give 220W.

  • @DjErzaSB
    @DjErzaSB Před 4 lety

    I own the 7498 and 7498E, I am satisfied by the output they give, but I always want more so I went and found the TAS5630 chipset which will be my next build.....specs say it gives 2x300w @10%thd and something like 2x250w@ 4ohm 1% thd....If you could do a test on that chip it would be awesome....I wish i had an amp dyno like yours...

  • @Brian1.
    @Brian1. Před 7 lety

    I am not surprised as Planet Audio is made by the same manufacturer as Sound Storm Laboratory. It's a real nice looking amp though. Enjoyed as always Bid D

  • @fullwaverecked
    @fullwaverecked Před 5 lety +1

    Agreed, thanks. Can you suggest one w/bluetooth?

  • @ProkonsTechCenter
    @ProkonsTechCenter Před 7 lety

    Thanks Big D. Pretty sweet little amp

    • @wal
      @wal  Před 7 lety

      +Prokon's Tech Center thanks for watching and commenting 👌

  • @NSNG1540
    @NSNG1540 Před 7 lety +3

    nice video.. can it be used in car..
    i have focal speakers and was looking for some cheap amp..

    • @FreakyBeanie
      @FreakyBeanie Před 6 měsíci

      I know that your comment is 6 years old but I use 2 of these in my car with the voltage booster in the video. Works well.

  • @Darieee
    @Darieee Před 7 lety

    Awesome - love these reviews ! - kinda bummed it uses close to 4W on standby ...

  • @CofeeAuLait
    @CofeeAuLait Před 5 lety

    That cap is about to blow in your face.

  • @CheezyDee
    @CheezyDee Před 7 lety +3

    I've been playing with one of these amps for a few days and indeed it has some roller coaster of a crossover band. It's relatively flat from 200 Hz to around 23 kHz, there's a huge spike around 26 kHz, then drops off to zero gain at about 28 kHz. On the low end, gain drops slowly from about 200 Hz until it goes down to 100 Hz then falls like a brick. Perhaps this amp was made for dogs?

    • @vincentkoster6291
      @vincentkoster6291 Před 6 lety +1

      Cheezy Dee this, my sir, is some​ valuable information you've got there!

    • @cekpi7
      @cekpi7 Před 6 lety +3

      What do you mean it falls after 100hz? test showed almost same power at 1khz as with 40hz, you sure you didnt get board with lpf?

  • @beng4818
    @beng4818 Před 3 lety

    Sir, I bought the same amplifier with the black squares instead of those orange caps... What will be the difference?
    Also, please I need your advice where to set the voltage of my Buck Converter, at 30 volts? This is the amp that I am building for my stereo electric guitar effects (stereo reverb, delay) :
    Amplifier: TDA7498E 2*160W 12-32V
    Power Supply: 36V 10A Switching
    Buck Converter: 300W 20A 6-40V
    2x JBL CS763, 45W RMS, 135W Peak

  • @nathanaelsmith3553
    @nathanaelsmith3553 Před 5 lety

    digging the test tracks

  • @zerodefcts
    @zerodefcts Před 5 lety

    BigD!!!
    I also added some caps (6x 4400uF 50V in parallel), but was getting that WEAK BASS. I EQed at the source by ear, and brought up the low end by ~50%! Ooooooohhhhhhh.....that worked!!!! It can make bass, but it has to be brought up at the source.

  • @davidhicks9215
    @davidhicks9215 Před 5 měsíci

    Interesting! I usually listen to music at lower volumes. What's it like at the lower end of the volume knob?

  • @MegaPoppat
    @MegaPoppat Před 3 lety

    Quite late to ask, I know, but did you run any noise level tests on the fan?

  • @floydwilliams3321
    @floydwilliams3321 Před 2 lety

    That’s pretty impressive man

    • @wal
      @wal  Před 2 lety

      Thanks for watching and commenting!

  • @KamranB1
    @KamranB1 Před 5 lety

    Very nice test, thank you

  • @gino3286
    @gino3286 Před 4 lety

    Hi ! thank you so much for your very valuable testing At 7:42 that is the most telling test about power for me by far ... put some heavy bass disco music (i like Toto for instance) and feel for the pressure No pressure no emotion ... Kind regards, gino

  • @alexmtz408
    @alexmtz408 Před 6 lety

    I have this mini amp and I wired with 2 kicker dual 4 ohm subs at 1 ohm and they were moving good

  • @TexasUnderbrushing
    @TexasUnderbrushing Před 7 lety

    Hey buddy love your stuff been a subscriber for a while. I have two questions I've been on your store site but I'm looking for a old like late 90s Hifonics 500 to 750 amp? Also could you do a video explaining how Hertz work and ohm levels? I've yet to see a video where this is explained. I'm somebody that's just tinkering around I've never really learned properly thanks again buddy..

    • @indopleaser
      @indopleaser Před 7 lety +1

      Annie Rains have waiting for a good video on this topic for years as well. barevids youtube channel has a video called box rise. finally understand this after watching many times.

    • @TexasUnderbrushing
      @TexasUnderbrushing Před 7 lety

      indopleaser okay awesome really appreciate it I will check it out..

  • @nukedathlonman
    @nukedathlonman Před 7 lety

    THD is is higher then I like to see, but it would still be good for low volume applications. Looks like it had reasonable speaker control - I was not expecting that out of something so cheap. Like how the fan doesn't run all the time. Too bad the bass is a bit weak, but again, wasn't expecting miracles given it's size and cost. It might not have done rated, but as you pointed out it was pretty close. All for $18 - would be pretty good for some applications one may want to attach a small amp too.

    • @soundguymatt
      @soundguymatt Před rokem

      This amp is actually useful for high power applications as well. I use them on line array pa speakers and have had success running live bands with these amps powering cabinets in biamp configuration. Unbelievable they actually put out enough power especially at the price point.

  • @daveban1656
    @daveban1656 Před rokem

    I recently purchased and upgraded with Bluetooth and per your video you were showing to use those terminals for bridging and wish little description It was saying to short those up-4 out for the Bluetooth I’m a little confused do you have any insight to this?.Dave

  • @Bagoesbudianto
    @Bagoesbudianto Před 7 lety

    almost $20 without TC but i love that heatsink combo really nice.... for under $20 i think another power audio amp kit with dual BA5406 [btl system] is really awesome...

  • @terrycarter8929
    @terrycarter8929 Před 4 lety

    I am totally surprised that I have never seen a step up power supply to boost the incoming voltage to an amp. How long has this been out and is this something that is used in competition? Makes me wonder how much power I left on the table the last 30 years. Lol

  • @jp-um2fr
    @jp-um2fr Před 6 lety

    Great video but a shame you didn't show the approx amps using 36 V. I was surprised it was only 3 A into 8 Ohm at 24 V. I have a 28 V linear power supply that's pretty good up to 8 A so I'll assume that should do.

  • @ahyonvlogs
    @ahyonvlogs Před 4 lety

    Maybe u could have used stereo mic when recording so viewers can perceive the audio more realistic and immersive

  • @lanphanh
    @lanphanh Před 4 lety

    Yes, it's very powerful amp, but how is the sound quality, do you know? How could we make the sound quality is good? Thanks

  • @RobertDickens2002
    @RobertDickens2002 Před 3 měsíci

    I really would have liked to see you do this at 14v I would think around 30 amps

  • @BadAndUgly
    @BadAndUgly Před 5 lety

    The dinky toy counterfeit caps may be weak for the application causing the amp to underperform. Still impressive for the price!

    • @wal
      @wal  Před 5 lety

      Not bad!

  • @santowalterscaramella6323

    Is it possible to connect sound 2.1 (2 - modules) - ZK-TB22 - which separately work well, ->> by the T W S function that comes with them?
    Would they then play at the same time - the same music?
    What is the T W S codec that comes with it?
    Grateful for the attention.
    CZcams NO, - PLEASE.

  • @imbadwrench
    @imbadwrench Před 3 lety

    So this won't work at 12dc at all? I have 2ohm speakers in my car and I need something to give my new head unit a little more kick, its only rated to 4ohm.

  • @gebework2933
    @gebework2933 Před 4 lety

    Can you re-review using the 8ohm Speaker, because I've read that in the description of this tool it is recommended to use the 8ohm 32V-8A speaker I'm curious about the final result ??!! Thanks'

  • @djbertinho1984
    @djbertinho1984 Před 5 lety +1

    Hi
    I need a 120w rms for my small subwoofer 4homs.
    I have a 150w step up 12v to 30v adjustable.
    do you recommend any board?
    Regards

  • @Balduccio94
    @Balduccio94 Před 5 lety

    Hi, thanks for your work. Is there a comparison between tpa2116D2 and tda7498E at maximum voltage possible ? Regards

  • @dougonutube
    @dougonutube Před 7 lety

    A very interesting test. I'm planning to use these amps to power active speakers for guitar use. The data sheet states the highest recommended power supply voltage as 39V (absolute max. 45V). As you have the test equipment, it would be really useful if you could test the amp up to 39V, to see how it holds up. I notice that the power supply smoothing capacitors on the amp board are rated at 50v, so there should be little risk of damaging the board. How about it?
    Thanks for a very useful and informative video!
    Doug

    • @wal
      @wal  Před 7 lety

      I accidentally ran this one over 40V (41V) before I noticed my 2nd volt meter maxed out at 33. I didn't see any smoke and it continued to work afterwards. If I get a chance, I'll try it at 39V

    • @dougonutube
      @dougonutube Před 7 lety

      Thanks - would be very interesting indeed, as output power increases exponentially as voltage increases - I'm planning to run into 8ohm speakers, so I'm not looking to overload the amp or the power supply; just get the best power I can into 8 ohms. By my calculations, extrapolating from your results, I'm expecting you'll get 85W into 8ohms at 1% distortion with a 40V supply.

    • @gubx42
      @gubx42 Před 7 lety +1

      I think it is a matter of safety margin for the capacitors and maybe other components. 39V is a bit too close to 50V, especially for these knockoffs. While you may not destroy the board, you will probably shorten its lifespan.

    • @dougonutube
      @dougonutube Před 7 lety

      You make a very valid point. However my amps have now arrived (I have 5 of them!!) and I've been running them in various guitar-related applications for a couple of weeks now. They're all running on 40v (modified cheap chinese "LED" power supplies). I've tested the main smoothing capacitors (rated at 50v, 105 degrees) and I think they can be relied upon (no worse than any other "brand" capacitor made in China". I've run them up to 150v RMS per side (sine wave, into 8ohm dummy load (both sides simultaneously) and 4ohm dummy load (one side only) - 5% distortion. They run continuously (2-3 hours) at this level, although they do get a bit hot - if the heat sink fan ever failed, there'd be an issue at this continuous power. So, I think that for "low-fi" applications like instrument amplifiers, PA monitors, etc. they seem absolutely ideal!! My biggest concern is the cheap power supplies failing ;-)

    • @dougonutube
      @dougonutube Před 7 lety

      Oops! Typo in the above - I mean I've run them up to 150W RMS - sorry for the confusion. While I'm on the subject of power output, my results were: 40v 4ohm one channel - 142W at 1% (continuous), 168W at 5% (momentarily - didn't run it too long at that power level as it was getting hot!). 40v 8ohm one channel - 104W at 5%, 88W at 1%. 40v 8ohm both channels driven - 85W at 1%, 101W at 5% (continuous)

  • @erict9087
    @erict9087 Před 4 lety

    Considering putting one of these in the attic above my back patio, audio input coming from an airport express, and ceiling speakers mounted in-ceiling under back porch. Would heat in the attic be an issue? Just want it out of sight and always on. Decent enough to pump tunes through a couple Definitive Technology di 6.5str speakers? They are dual voice oil 8-ohm, so would like to wire each one parallel to achieve the 4-ohm numbers.

  • @bobbykannady1180
    @bobbykannady1180 Před 3 lety

    I don;t understand the bridge function. What do i physically need to do to bridge the pins J1,J2,J3, J4? Do i solder a wire from J1 to J2 and from J3 to J4?

  • @reganmorben9248
    @reganmorben9248 Před 5 lety

    FYI: Brad Newsome from Legends of Car Audio really took it too far. I
    questioned the ethics of him calling an Orion amp from 2005 "Old School"
    and "Rare" without malice. I explained that 1) it wasn't rare there
    are/were several listed for sale on Kijiji and Amazon) 2) Old School
    (particularly Orion) Is understood to mean 80's and 90's not just
    anything that has been replaced by a newer model. He cant just decide
    to call anything used "Old School" Particularly Orion as DEI/Orion Amps
    from 2000 up are not the same quality or reliability as the amps built
    by the original "Old School" Orion engineers. I suggested that he not
    just arbitrarily put those titles on nearly every item in his store as
    it was somewhat ethically questionable. I also explained that people
    who love "Old School" car audio love it because it was underrated or it
    over preformed. We detested the brands that inflated their ratings or
    outright lied to us about output. I pointed out to Brad that his saying
    something was of a vintage it wasn't or overstating its rarity was the
    same thing as Boss Audio saying they had a 1000w Amp that measured 10 x
    10 x 2 and had a 25 amp fuse inline of the 10G power cable and out crowd
    had a dim view of that kind of marketing. His response was to call me a
    troll hit me with insults about my sex life and other personal insults.
    I explained that questioning his ethics was not being a troll. That
    tricking customers into thinking things are older and more desirable
    than they really are and insulting people and calling them names on the
    internet are both technically "trolling". This time his response was to
    go onto his EBAY page (the most widely searchable platform on the
    internet) and in all caps wrote: " Ive been contacted a million times
    by a troll named Regan Morben..etc etc.." When you search my name it
    comes up. What an utter infant. We had a civil conversation on a
    corner of CZcams that was as low key as it can be on the internet and
    he raged out and splashed my name all over EBay (and he cannot spell).
    Please reconsider doing business with a man of this character.

    • @dj4monie
      @dj4monie Před 4 lety

      So you decided that because these two YT personalities are friends offline that you would post on OSCA channel so who exactly would care or see it? Newsflash nobody gives a flying you know what about you calling into question what somebody views as old school and what is not old school. Either way I find the old school audio challenge kind of silly. Nobody really cares about car audio anymore at least not like it in the 80's and 90's. Most people are happy with their stock systems except maybe for the lack of bass. So they get a Bazooka tube or some other add-on and are perfectly happy with that. I like Biz Wiz's channel because it's just fun seeing some of these old amps

  • @timmturner
    @timmturner Před 7 lety

    @BigDWiz You called this a knockoff, it's not a copy of anything more expensive that I know of. What are you referring to?

    • @wal
      @wal  Před 7 lety +1

      The caps and main chip may be fakes. I don't know for sure, but it seems probable the caps are fake just based on the cost of the board

  • @tarsiousmunalembohol
    @tarsiousmunalembohol Před 2 lety

    Sir the wattage results will tell what speaker wattage to hook in that amps? Mmm a noob question...

  • @4G12
    @4G12 Před 5 lety

    Hi BigDWiz, love your video, just subscribed. :-)
    I wonder how much can this amp output for an 8 ohm load for THD under 0.1%, since I'm wondering if it'll work adequately for a speaker with 40W RMS and 70W Peak rating . Thanks!

    • @lio1234234
      @lio1234234 Před 5 lety

      More than enough, if you max out that amp you would probably break that speaker. Depends on what voltage you are sending through it.

  • @jonny5ive167
    @jonny5ive167 Před rokem

    Can I use a 36v 10 amp switching dc power supply to power this? You were only pumping 1 amp into this? Sounds like i might blow this thing up.

  • @zunayedislam4029
    @zunayedislam4029 Před 3 lety

    Hope you are doing well! I have two passive bookshelf speakers and each tower consists of Woofer 6.5 Inch 4Ω (60W RMS)+Mid-Range 4.0 Inch 8Ω(40W RMS)+Tweeter 1.5 Inch 4Ω (20W RMS) that is 120W RMS+ 120W RMS Three way system with crossover. Can I use my two passive bookshelf speakers with this amplifier boards as 2.0 with ease or not. If yes could you please advise me on the appropriate volt of the transformer and the ampere?

  • @fullwaverecked
    @fullwaverecked Před 5 lety

    Very cool, I'm a car guy. Never knew the was such a thing as a amp dyno. I'm also a vintage guitar tube amp guy. If you bridged it to mono, and used a 36v transformer... is this viable, say for a pair of 4" 30 watt Eminence guitar amp speakers? Thanks!

    • @wal
      @wal  Před 5 lety

      The Amp Dyno has been around for 6-7 years. These mini chip amps are amazingly powerful and cheap enough to try and see if it’s suitable for your application

  • @McgarickWAstate
    @McgarickWAstate Před 4 lety

    I gave you a thumbs up,because of the Big Dummy clip..

  • @jeffreygarcia145
    @jeffreygarcia145 Před 3 lety

    How about you series 3 lead acid battery to make a 36v rail and get rid of that boosted rail dc to dc converter?

  • @waderyun.war00034
    @waderyun.war00034 Před 6 lety

    Do not use 36 volts it can't handle it for very long. It recommends 32 volts. I will step the voltage down to 32 on the next one I get. Fried it using 3 12 volt 12.5 amp power supplys in series. Was reading 35.5 volts when the amplifier chip blew out 4 of the pins. Sounded like bacon frying. Glad it was cheap.