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I've only ever seen one guy do this, he is an incredibly talented rider. Looks like the hallmark of a well above average rider to me.
I don't get it. Why not just step on the left peg with your left foot and swing the right leg over? I guess if you are on some very soft soil thats an issue but in that case why not install a kickstand plate?
Well done by an experienced rider... looks like a great way for an inexperienced rider to break a leg.
...or worse: a bike
@@GrimReaper1305 even worse, both…
🤣🤣
But.. you can do exactly that without the bike moving..
Shad Giordano Exactly!
put a rock under it.
Interesting idea, but I think I'll pass. looks like a disaster waiting to happen. For those commenting about doing this because of passengers.. why not just have your passenger get on after and off before? That way you can be holding both bars, feet on ground, front brake on - so much safer. Hold they bike up and then they do left foot on left peg, stand up, step over and sit down.
if there`s a passenger you don`t need this method, there`s no luggage on the rear seat, get on your bike the normal way, that`s all
I will try this method .
Definitely better than living with sciatica.
A complicated solution to a problem that doesn't exist
Short people???
Well if we're talking a Roy Rogers horse mount, has anyone tried running up from behind, do a leapfrog over the back and into the saddle. You know like how those clever cowboys jump on a horse, hahaha! What could go wrong!
Dougie awesome!
thanks Dougie, that made my day
Hehe yep, just be sure to take off your spurs before mounting.
I do exactly that with the bike stationary on it's side stand.
I don't get all the negative comments. It's a fun thing to do and it works. These are the same folks that probably don't think wheelies and jumps are cool but in the hands of confident and skilled people they are both safe and fun. It's all relative. I'm surprised anyone who is riding a motorcycle has that attitude. It's really not that difficult. Been doing it on a bicycle my entire life. Just adda little clutch and throttle control and it's easy peasy just like Clinton demonstrated.
why do something that has more risk involved when its not needed? You catch your boot on the way over - run over a little pot hole etc...and it cold be messy. This is totally a unnecessary technique and potentially more dangerous than many other ways of mounting the bike.
Billy billy, you wrote:"why do something that has more risk involved when its not needed?" So I think you do not have to drive a motorcycle. It is to risky. Too dangerous AND: it is not needed. But most of all: be happy. No one is forcing you. This man has a agility that you don't have - or not dare to have. So what is the problem???
@@spidifilerijder While agreeing with you that the argument of @billy billy is a two edged sword, this channel consists of training videos to become a safer offroad rider. This rolling hop on isn't a viable option offroad and isn't any safer than possible alternatives. It's not that the move is useless or not cool, but rather that the target demographic isn't the offroad rider.
Thank you Mask Man. These are known as “stunt starts” and “stunt stops” - this being the simplest of many. There are plenty of CZcams videos that explain similar and more complicated maneuvers. You do these because it’s fun and to show off; not because they’re safer or easier. Hi Ho Silver . . . away!
I tried this...I am still on the pegs..waiting for the petrol to run out so i and the bike can fall down..tnx Clinton..
I do just about the same, except without the rolling start. I put my left foot on the left side footpeg, swing my right leg over the bike and get in the riding position, then start the bike and go. Looks a bit silly maybe, but it's what works for me. :)
its not silly. it's the way almost all adv rider I've meet does. Also in that way if you FAIL to swing across you'll just hop back off. But in Clinton's way if you fail, say kicking your seat, passenger's leg or peg doesnt carry you etc. bike, passenger all the load is gonna end up on ground with you on top. Not really my kind of risk tbh.
Ditto
That doesnt do much good for your side stand.
I do 20K+ miles every year on my GSA, always get up on the left peg, on the side stand, no problem. (Proof of the pudding is in the eating).
Thats what I do, easy peasy
Clinton, most of your videos I find very good and informative, but this just seems like a terrible idea better left to the stunt rider guys... In rough terrain, I can't imagine having the bike start moving when I'm not really on it and fully in control. A lot of us have modified our big ADV bikes with a larger sidestand foot for just that reason.
+greedyg76 I think that this tip is a nice one, because I road hundred km when traveling with 3 or 4 stops on gas station for fill the tank and it's not easy to get in the bike with the luggage in the passenger seat.
Maybe when I was a teenager, all you had to say was get on like a bicycle. Most of us who are riding that bike don't have your flexibility any more. I could just see me swinging my foot over and hitting the seat and dumping the bike or my leg cramping up as I tried to swing it high enough to clear the seat.
I'm assuming you're talking about the ground being too soft to support the bike on it's sidestand ? Otherwise it sounds fairly ridiculous.
Tried it, works like a charm - Thank you!
Mad skilz lol. I never thought to try that, maybe with a bicycle. You're the man, Clinton.
Hilarious ! I recommend perfecting feet up U turns before attempting this !
Hey, hold my beer and watch this.
On a 1200, no less. One wrong twitch of the fingers or wrist and you'll be glad you have the crash bars and hard bags. This definitely takes skills the average rider will never achieve. Well done.
I cant imagine how many people are going to dump their $30,000 BMW's trying this. Yippy Ki Yea !!.
GSs are made to be dumped.
I'll be one of them people soon... luckly mine isnt $30k
Yeah .., but Longrider is just saying what most GS riders are probably thinking .., ie; how are they going to do cleanly pull of this demount in front of the coffee shop LOL
+Moto Rad .., Yeah .., but Longrider is just saying what most GS riders are probably thinking .., ie; how are they going to cleanly pull of this demount in front of the crew at the coffee shop LOL
Never dumped mine - by this manoeuver - :-)
Getting on the bike loaded hasn't really been a problem. But sometimes I can barely get off the bike..
This is great! God bless you.
You made that look easy but...I ain’t doing that or I’d be searching for videos on picking up heavy adventure bikes. I’ll do the same action when it’s stationary on the side stand if you don’t mind 😁
I do that very maneuver while the bike is stationary on the side stand. Less chance of dropping is. You do look cool doing it though.
Incredible... Thank you for showing me how.
I don't know about the rest of you, but I want my bike to wake up when I do. I want to have my butt on the seat, feet on the ground. Then when I say giddy-up go, feet are up, I'm balanced, bike is balanced with NO hidden surprises! Why would I rather in any way want to be laying there next to my bike, then say to myself, at least I didn't get the seat dirty. Hell, at 73 years I can't run fast enough to catch it if it decided to continue on with out me. But thank for your time and effort to do the video.
Certainly looks cool, but why not just mount like that with the kickstand down?
Hi Justin, great point about just keeping the side stand down. that does work well on pavement or really hard ground. Often on our adventure bikes the side stand will sink into the soft ground surface as we add our weight to the bike. I am going to take your point into the next session of videos I do. I think I will show how you can find a stick to support the side stand in soft terrain and simply climb on with the stand down. Great point! thanks,
Or...hear me out on this...you bring a 4-inch diameter disk made of plywood in all that luggage you got packed for exactly that purpose.
Matthias Weiss and how do you pick up the disk once you mount?
Ah yes and anyone wondering how this is done with a loaded bike and passenger, the old train hopping technique. So once the passenger has completed what this man has and is straddled in and the clutch is fully released on the bike and the operator running along side the bike can grab the handle bar while the first person simultaneously slides back to the passengers seat, then the operator can finally hop on!
i wouldn't do that with a passenger, never.
Gaming panama you mount the bike and hold the bike up for the passenger to get on and off, the passenger should never be on before driver
How is that different from mounting while stopped, using the foot peg in the same way? In both cases you have to stand up and lift your leg over the seat.
I hear he passed away in a fiery crash off a mountainside. RIP my little John Denver of the motorcycle world.
He was on the adventure rider radio podcast Jan 31 2020. Pretty sure he isn't dead.
Why just stay on the side stand and step on the peg and ride.
Johnry Espole exactly ! Way easier and safer.
Thought the same...
Because as soon as you put 1st gear with the side stand down, the engine will stop. This is a safety feature on all bikes.
look. bike stopped on the stand, do all he said but without starting the engine or removing side stand. once you're seated, start the bike and ride...what's hard to understand
....err, why not lift side stand before engaging 1st then?
Hi,
Could you please explain parking a motorcycle on hilldown. Also on a off road road. Some times the parking stand will lean motorcycle too much (I fall once) or it will straith the bike and feels like it will fall to the oposide (right) side. The same problem is on some sloped roads. There is no video on internet.
With it on the side stand, put your right knee onto the seat, slide it forwards along the tank side and drop your right foot, and you're astride. All rather effortless.
I've tried learning to do this on my Tiger 1050, but I can't bring myself to let out the clutch standing next to the bike in 1st gear!
Gawd that looks risky! I think I’ll just parcel post whatever’s in the blue bag! Couldn’t be as expensive as dropping the bike... Roy 😅
Practice this on grass or dirt first. Best to be somewhat flexible. I tried it on Clinton's course but did not get the hang of it on a 800GS. I do the stand on the peg on the side stand mainly but can still get the leg up and over the seat and slide on. This can be tricky. Clinton is a pro and well practiced.
If it work for him that so great 👍🇬🇧
So much could go wrong - a stupid idea
how about doing this footpeg mount method with bike static?
Great idea. Where are your schools located?
Greg
Why would you get on a motorbike after the passenger?
Do you have one for sport toure bike
SUPER thanks
You can also place your left foot on the left peg and kick your right leg over the seat while the bike it's on the kick stand...... It's nice to get on while its rolling, but unsafe for new riders.........
The one interesting thing about this is that it totally applies to normal day riding for a short rider on a tall bike like a GS
And it's easier to put your knee over the bike rather that doing the high kick. As taught in bike schools for mounting high tail end sports bikes
We do have a saying: "Why do things simple when you can do them complicated.." I do the same thing with my kickstand on. In case of muddy environment I would just non-elegantly help my leg by my hands and lift it over the seat.
Hey Clinton!! How you doing?
Nice little pointer...
I refuse to ride with more weight than I can lift with one arm.
Moreover I ride with metal-free soft luggage saddlebag and
a 8 meter kite surfing backpack with attached pump. Looks
huge when inflated but it is mostly compressed air.
How do pillion get on and off on bike with top box, pannier
Why ? Why not just leave the bike on the kickstand, hoist your leg over the seat, and sit on it THEN pick it upright ?
What a great idea
Won’t be doing this. Enjoy your other videos though!
Wow, thanks!🤔
LOL. I remember being extremely impressed, watching Gaston Rainier do this, on the original Paris Dakar winning BMWs in the '70s. He stood 5 foot 2, and the handlebar was about 5 foot 2 off the ground... This man was already the world 125cc MotorX cross champion... He could handle a 1200cc BMW pretty nicely too.... One of my all time favourite photos, was Rainier with head down, looking at the display, one hand on the winder, adjusting the paper roll, with the bike on the flat-face of a dune, obviously moving at 60 mph+ because of the radius of the turn, and the back wheel was about 30 degrees out of line with the front, and it was kicking up a huge roost.... You think you're good? You're not that good....
Maybe this answer is a little late, but the reason for the back wheel thing is because of his accident on his BMW R80 GS in the beginning of the race. It damaged the bike a lot. There was this saying that you would never now whose tracks you are following, Gaston Rahier being the exception, because his bike left two trails.
@@feuerreiteroderso8655 ~ Wow! I know he could ride. I had a full page spread photo, from a magazine, with him full lock sideways, on the slip-face of a dune, and the tracks were not visibly curved so he was doing 40+ mph, probably much more, and he had right-hand on the throttle and it was WFO, and his left hand was winding up the pace notes while he looked down at them... I was about 15 at the time, and there wasn't one thing about that picture that was legendary, it was the combination.... He's flat-chat full throttle full lock sideways, on sand, and he has one hand on the bars, and he's winding up his roll-a-notes, and that's what he's looking at .... The man was God!
@@Kneedragon1962Rahiers skills are nearly unmatched. I own a BMW R100 GS Paris Dakar (the bigger sister of Rahiers bike so to say) and only started offroad riding. I often have to remind myself to always keep both hands on the handle bar, because I nearly crashed a dozens of times cause of sudden deep sand. He was an amazing rider. I plan to have myself a Enduro BMW build. If you are interested look up SWT Sports (either the website or the videos).
I can see why this would be useful in a situation such as in mud or soft dirt or sand in which you can't put the stand down. On stable surfaces where you can put the stand down, it's just extra and probably not the best idea.
I don't think think someone who can't do a u-turn with unlimited space should be teaching riding technique. Foot down is an instant fail for the bike test in my country.
so many things to go wrong - scary!!
That maneuver will definitely take some practice!
And bone splints.
This mount is easily done on bikes and GS’s. Several videos around of shorter riders doing this at every stop!!
A SAFER WAY IS , WITH KICKSTAND
DOWN AND GRIPPING BARS, STEP
WITH LEFT FOOT ON LEFT PEG AND
STAND LIENING FORWARD THROW
YOUR RIGHT LEG OVER AND SIT....
EXACTLY LIKE MOUNTING A HORSE
USING LEFT STIRRUP....THEN START
We climb the bike every day when the bike are standing still on the side stand no problem 😉
I'm going to try this on my kids $200 dirt bike
Clinton! HEY! CLINTON! Can you hear me?!! Come help me lift this darn 800# anchor offn ma ankle. Good idea, Clinton.
Yea this is more stunt than practical riding practice. Don't do it unless you are a very confident rider. Even then there isn't much point to it besides the cool factor. If you do try this please get a friend to film it. Then at least you'll get the CZcams hits for the fail and we get entertained.
Is this a joke? What is the difference getting on the bike the same way while it's on the kickstand?
If u have the stand down, i get up the bike on the other side. Just stand on the peg on the otherside of the stand and put your other feet over (so u are much higher and dont need to do much acrobatics and u can stand straight on it). The weight and angel of the bike and attachement keeps it from throwing over. On this way u release some of the pressure of the stand so it cant sink into the buttom and u can easy climb on the bike. But nice vids and a voice and could here the hole day. But i guess the mission was without the stand. (Excuse bad english). :)
Crazy, but worth a try. I think I'll try it without the load first.
Because of a bum left knee (motorcycle wreck plus sports injuries), I have difficulty getting on my touring Harley from the left side. Plus, I just don't trust the kickstand (or the surface that it is on if it is not concrete) to not give a bit and the bike end up falling over or the kickstand bending. The hard bags and backrest makes it even more difficult. For a sport bike though, it doesn't matter, so I can still get on it from the left side. For the Harley, I get on it from the right side. I grab the handlebars and depress the front brake so the front wheel is less likely to move. I then put my right foot on the right floorboard and while leaning over the bike so that my center of mass is as close to the center of mass of the bike as possible, I stand up and quickly move my left leg over the seat and backrest.
There's no way I would try the type of start illustrated in this video with an 800 lb bike. It's actually kind of similar to how we used to get on our bicycles (although without the power).
2:10 don't get it too dirty!
so you do this not only with all that heavy luggage but also with a passenger - without kicking him/her ? Bravo !
I tried this. Glad no one was watching, because my bike ended up on it's side.
I do it same but on STANDING bike, there is no reason why do this by acceleration
Is there any reason why you're not just standing on your peg at standstill and just hop on your bike like that? Then sit down, balance the bike inbetween you, kick up the stand and get off?
Ohno0es cause if you’re on dirt, the side stand could sink in the terrain. still in my opinion it’d be better to just have a large side stand foot
Probably, but doesn't anyone who ever goes remotely offroad packs a smashed tin can with them for cases like this?
I can see merit in this technique from the other video when having to start up/downhill after a drop-down, but not quite as from a stand-still like this.
I notice everyone who says this won't work, has never tried it, lol. I haven't either, but it looks like a viable technique. He's in control, not flailing around. You've got the gyro forces of the turning wheels in your favor too. Just gotta get my nerve up!
Jeff Simpkins but why risk it when you can do the exact same thing stationary and take a big variable out of the situation?
People are not saying it won't work just that there's easier and safer ways
Why start it? leave it on the side stand hop on using the left foot rest, straddle and away you go
I kicked my Tenere over last weekend with my wife on it trying to get on. It had stood almost straight up with her weight. I could never do what he does. From now on when she is on I am going to mount from the side opposite the kickstand. I am tall enough to do that. Wish I had done it last weekend. My wrist still hurts from trying to keep the bike from going over.
fukthegoog Getting on from the right side is not difficult at all. I actually find it easier to mount my GS that way and have been doing it for some time. I know its not conventional but it works for me.
I seem to not have any sound.
first time I see this done. but if it works, it works.
Where is Clinton???
Great skill...but I am not taking any risk dropping my bike for not kicking the packages.....
It's called the postman technique.
I'm good at getting loaded on a bike, thanks
Works well, unless you are 2 up and fully loaded.
The problem is that motorcycles have only two "legs" and can fall down and hurt you, while horses don't care about anything but sugar and carrots.
I overstretched by groin trying to kick high while getting on over the luggage. damn
You can do this easily without the bike moving. Stand on your peg and swing your leg over.
Excellent video, I often look for a sizable rock or slight slope for the kick stand that will help stabilize when I have a cooler or such on the back and I have to swing a leg over. I've got pretty good balance so I'm going to give yor method a shot and save the strain on the poor stand
I don't want to try this, good job I'm tall enough for my bike
I just mount my KLR like a horse, put my left foot on the left Peg stand up and slide over it.
imount+dismount from the right hand side like a moto-cop ,,when touring i got 80 lbs of gear!!
If a cop sees you do that, you'll get charged with stunting here in Ontario, Canada. But interesting move nonetheless.
I drive this motor cycle every day. And this way to start and stop is for me very familiar and normal. I do it at least 2 times a day. Only with luguage it is more difficult but very safe. By the way: never felt with that manoeuvre.
very safe? totally unnecessary way to get on or off a bike that has more inherent risks than a more conventional method. There is a reason this is not normally taught - how can this guy claim to be an qualified instructor?
If you find it totally unnecessary, don't do it. We (me in fact) I'm living in a free country. No one is forcing you... Just be happy and live and enjoy live.
So why can't u use the same system without the bike moving?.
I mean why not mount the bike with one foot on the peg?I have been riding bikes now for 40yrs and have never seen such a silly way to mount a motorcycle. You sir will be responsible for lots of.people causing damage to their bikes
Why can't you just stand on the left peg while the bike is on the stand? That's what I do. I'm careful not to put too much weight on the stand, but the stand won't break off (at least it hasn't yet).
Good stuff. At 5'6" I approve this message lol. I do drag the front brake as I modulate the clutch. The front brake helps keep you in that friction zone.
I’ll stick with a dirty seat thanks
YASSSSSSSSS
Try that in central London or any big city and you'll soon be an accident statistic.....
I’m uncertain, but that didn’t look like Trafalgar Square...