the targeting system is ingenious. designer 1 "its a bird, we need a shotgun" designer 2. "okay, three heavy tungsten darts." designer 1 "we also need velocity" designer 2 "okay, three tungsten darts moving at mach 3" designer 1 "we also need a choke so the darts don't spread out too much, we only have three." designer 2 "how about having a launcher with two different frequency lasers draw a cone made up of grids, at very high frame rate. with each dart looking forwards at the lightshow and steering towards the grids centre. move the cone, and the darts will see and adjust." designer 1 "...." and thus the first hypervelocity tungsten dart shotgun with laser choke, good out too 4 miles, adjusting against moving targets, was born. and some people thought it was just a MANPAD.
Developed in the cold war era, presumably with the intention of being used against cold war threats... which I guess is the Russians, what are the odds.
Starstreak was produced in 1986. Why it took military so long to accept it into service this is another question, but missiles is production since 1986. So yes, it is "Cold war missile"
@@horacecunningham7832 An Earlier Ka 52 was blown in half by Starstreak with total loss of crew. The one you are talking about is a Ka-52 that lost a tail fin (not the tail). Probably from a near miss by a Stinger.
@@horacecunningham7832 As the MI 28 has a tail rotor and can´t fly without a tail (the ka 52 can) no, that one did definitely not make it home. Which is good.
@@jeckjeck3119 in my understanding Russia is not on a fully fledged war. Their air assets are reserved for the time when it will be a direct confrontation with NATO. I think Russia doesn't need much air superiority while they can simply dominate in artillery.
So do the arms manufacturers and their shareholders. Please, by all means, continue the war, and keep the bulk orders coming. Investing in your defense, 6,000 miles away fighting a nuclear-armed adversary, is a much better investment than healthcare, education, or fixing the potholes. 9 out of 10 Congresscritters agree! We would also greatly appreciate your support for arming Taiwan against incursion from the Chinese.
@@kma3647 Ukraine is defeating and demilitarizing neo-fascist ruSSia, taking one of the two axis powers out of the game before WW3 even starts. And all it's costing is some out-dated kit that was being replaced anyway. It's a bargin.
Originally developed and made by British company Shorts who were later sold to Thales, the darts look back towards the laser source for guidance not forward to an illuminated target.
Who is stopping you from that? Maybe you expect others to do stuff, I don’t think many people are going to do that while man from Ukraine are delivering pizza in countries across Europe. Since you want to support Ukraine there is still hope for victory.
@@ralphlorenz4260 c’mon I may be a dumb American but even I know Northern Ireland is full of Englishmen. Still, you have a point. thanks for the reply.
They now want war to shift the focus from plan-demic crimes to another issue. That's what the world needs to understand! People are being manipulated into hating each other, so that they can fight each other, and the killers of plan-demic to escape.
@@samiam5557The missiles have already been bought years ago, if we don’t donate them to Ukraine they would just sit in a warehouse until they retire, so this is a way better use for them.
The solution is to NOT go and fight for governments, not to accept masks, injections, or any other nonsense, and when more people wake up, you even refuse to pay them taxes - which are nothing more than protection fees given to the mafia but under a masked form! You just don't care about them or the media, which is an extension of them! (seek news in alternative media).
Perhaps they can get all the Kit you Yanks left when you ran away in Afghanistan?. At least the Russian fight unlike Yanks who cower whilst waiting for Air support to do the work. Remember in the Gulf War the US refused to send in troops to deal with Scud missiles, so the SAS did it(It was too dangerous for USA).
Shorts Missile Systems was a British company based in Belfast, Northern Ireland, a country, region or province (multiple descriptions) that is part of the United Kingdom of Great Britain (England, Scotland and Wales) and Northern Ireland. It's like saying North America is the United States. It's not. North America also includes Canada. Thank you for pronouncing Thales correctly.
I don’t think the Starstreak’s “going into reproduction”; it’s just production. Unless the missiles are breeding, or being photocopied. Words matter, WSJ.
The Swedish RBS70 also uses laser beam riding. At 9km it has a 50% greater range though at Mach 1.7 it has half the speed. It’s wrong to assume these missiles use purely manual tracking. Powerful thermal vision cameras and imaging algorithms track the target and guide the laser. These are too sophisticated to jam. Unfortunately neither starstreak or RBS70 has the ability to outrange Russias 12km Vikhr helicopter launched missiles. Tragically the west neglected its Short Range Air defences and has nothing much to give Ukraine.
StarStreak Is currently at mk2 with mk3 awaiting production (mk.3 reaches much further). For longer ranges you can put a Martlet missile inside the StarStreak platform giving a additional mile defence at the sacrifice of speed. UK has given both to Ukraine. UK uses CAAM missiles for further range that go upto 100km with a separate radar platform or 16km without the platform and can be fired from SAM sites or A2A. It's not about supply... it's about politics and safety... Every NATO country will not give Ukraine equipment that can be used to attack Russia directly or contains secret equipment that Russia does not already have technical information on.
@@babalonkie The whole war is about attacking Russia directly...whether in Ukraine or in Russia. It is about supply and demand and nothing to do with politics...Ukraine already has these missiles, so it is no problem for them. The Uk started ramping up the missile manufacture many months ago...so they are not in short supply any more...they were months ago. The original supply was for munitions no longer being used but i store...they were so successful, they had to restart the manufacture process they stopped in 2012.
@@sqnhunter I am not saying UK does or does not have the supply... i am just telling you that the latest weapons will never be sent, not without being downgraded, no matter how many are made. Even storm shadow had it's advanced avionics removed and it's range more than halved. In accordance with international arms treaties and to not escalate the war by having NATO weapons striking inside Russia... that's not a opinion, that's information from MY government and NATO. Nothing will be sent to Ukraine that Russia can steal information or tech from or that could be used on Russian legal territory. The most advanced tech will always be used in defence of home nations and NATO... no matter the circumstances. And NATO's goal is not to beat or destroy Russia... It's to allow Ukraine to defend itself and get Putin to pull his troops out of Ukraine... that's it. Soon as Putin pulls out, NATO will withdraw most of it's military support and ALL support should Ukraine decide to push into Russia after.
@babalonkie CAMM-ER could not reach 100km, let alone CAMM. I don't know where you are getting your information about range. An air-to-air ASRAAM would not reach that engagement distance. However even an ASRAAM strapped onto a truck is a viable answer to Russian attack helicopter. CAMM, IRIST-T SLS as well as other system are capable of providing SHORAD where MANPADS can't reach. It is worth noting that even if Starstreak, LMM, RBS70NG have shorter range than Vikhr armed attack heli, they are not worthless. A low flying non evading Russian helicopter at 10km is still in....the danger ZOOONE
@@jacopo952 "CAMM-ER could not reach 100km, let alone CAMM. I don't know where you are getting your information about range. An air-to-air ASRAAM would not reach that engagement distance. However even an ASRAAM strapped onto a truck is a viable answer to Russian attack helicopter. CAMM, IRIST-T SLS as well as other system are capable of providing SHORAD where MANPADS can't reach. It is worth noting that even if Starstreak, LMM, RBS70NG have shorter range than Vikhr armed attack heli, they are not worthless. A low flying non evading Russian helicopter at 10km is still in....the danger ZOOONE" Who said anything about "CAMM-ER"? I said CAAM. CAAM is the warhead and seeker. CAAM - Common Anti-Air *MODULAR* Missile CAMM-ER has a range of 45km. CAMM-MR same seeker and warhead but different booster, can reach 100km. CAMM (The warhead and seeker) can track by itself for 16km. Both can be fired from the ground and one can be fired from air.
At the same time, Starstreak needs the target being illuminated with a laser... When it comes to do it better than the Stinger, the MBDA Mistral may not have 3 darts but has that kind of speed, a seeker that can't be jammed and the advantage of being fire'n'forget... Now there's a new problem : the new russian airborne anti-tank missile ranges 15km, putting choppers outside of ManPADS ranges... In other terms, CIWS/C-RAM guns are needed to intercept either incoming missiles or small loitering ammos, and short range SAMs similar to the Crotale Mk3 are needed to deel with choppers and attack aircraft
It's insanely cringe when people call western donated equipment "ukraines equipment" it's a british/french missile not ukraine. Ukraine would be fighting with rocks and sticks without our equipment stop saying it's ukraines.
Ok okay... Positive. We can even call it good, BUT where are the so necessary competent airplanes for Ukrayina to defend itself appropriately?! Nearly two years are passing with Ukraine repeatedly begging for those since the start!!
Unusually, the 3 darts do not follow a laser beam- the sensors are in the rear and they look "backwards," toward the operator. This prevents non-reflective surfaces or smoke dischargers from having any counter effect. The system is certainly difficult to master. So much so that only specially-trained gunners from The Royal Artillery, use them. I am told that it takes close to a hundred simulated launches before a trainee is allowed to fire a real, $150,000 unit.
stingers dont just look for heat. they look at the target they are locked to and are basically tv guided by referencing the original target flares wont really work.
0:22 RQ9 reaper. drones like Saheds makes sense. but not a RQ9. they are just way high up (15 km) and the starstreak does 7km, its lacking more than double the height.
The British should produce a new standalone and vehicle mountable variant of Star streak with an off the shelf optical tracking system directing the laser - this could be quickly fitted to ships, helicopters as well as land vehicles and land-only installations. We have nothing of consequence in the field until you get to Sky Sabre and Sea Cepter (the ASRAAM based systems) which are very expensive to operate against low value targets like drones or speedboats.
It already is. The British Apaches and some ground vehicles can mount multiple starstreak launchers. The Apache even uses them to take out ground vehicles.
Stinger is old technology. Production since the 1990’s have been low rate for foreign military sales (FMS). I’m surprised that the engines in these 25 year old systems still ignite. Uncle Sam was preoccupied fighting insurgents in Afghanistan and Iraq so long which didn’t have any planes that they forgot how to fight first world armies.
The quickest fix to the 7-15km range problem would probably be a booster rocket for current manpad missiles. Star Streak already uses a booster rocket. Problems might be insufficient battery/coolant ( optics ) for the missile to function in that range. I also expect new gen MANPADs to increase the lethality of their warheads. Too many damaged Su's are able to RTB.
IR seekers don't need coolant. As for the batteries, a thermal battery usually does the job for the few seconds of guidance, the problem is most likely the IR sensor itself and the lens, a sensor upgrade might actually make it more efficient. but from what I understand there are physical limitations of how far a lens can zoom depending on its size. and you also have to take into account that its not a variable lens, so it will need to have the right balance of being able to see wide enough and far enough. As for the range, adding a booster might work, but realistically would cause issues in the production line if they want to put it out fast. most practical way would be to change the chemistry of the solid fuel, that way dimensions, weight, etc. will stay the way they are.
Ukrainians are related to Russians, they also speak Russian! Not to mention that the resources on that territory are not used for their well-being, but are used for the benefit of those in the West. There is nothing to defend! Do you want peace? Then it's simple: Don't fight! You have nothing to fight for! The media washes people brains and makes them hate each other!
Won't help manpads, because you need to be able to see something before you can think to shoot at it. Also adds weight, which lowers effectiveness for something specifically designed to be portable.
@@rainerkinzinger555 Wrong, most military IR sensors are cooled to about 80 degrees Kelvin usually with liquid Nitrogen gas, N2. There are some uncooled systems in the military but they are usually short range. Also the problem with a zoom lens for a missile seeker is that you need the widest field of view and highest resolution at the start, long range. The control unit usually has multiple fields of view to acquire the target.
@@mrbaab5932 I think you mean those thermal sensors? im sure those IR laser sensors don't need cooling. the thermal ones do need it. we're talking about the infrared laser guided missile =D
We stopped making them because we didn't need them, now we need them we'll be making more. It's similar to wars and peacetime corresponding to troop numbers.
I remember Starstreak missiles made by Irish from that History Channel show called Future Weapons back in the early 2000's, when Mack narrated the show...... was super deadly back 20+ years ago !!!!!
@yueyu1479 invasion, they had many trucks lined up to enter the region but pulled back to avoid incirclement, attack if they only launched missiles at the city.
No countermeasure is perfect. Many aircraft die to heatseekers after popping flares. I'm just saying, it's not accurate to portray this system as an unbeatable weapon. Every weapon is beatable. The real question is, can Russia afford to field such an expensive system on mass. I'm sure the mi-28s that died were not fitted with an anti-laser system at all.
@@miguellopez3392 I'm going to assume this was directed at me. Russia is not the one saying they have this system. Other countries are aware of this system. And other countries field these same systems. Laser designation is very easy to spoof if you know the direction of the emitter. Or you can just dump smoke if you're panicking. This isn't a propaganda issue. This is actual technology fielded by world powers.
@@boringperson-zb8vy They were given by the British, designed by the British (try telling anyone in the Belfast plant they are 'Irish' and see how long you last...its overwhelmingly Protestant Unionist workforce, always has been..). Shorts Bros was taken over by the Canadian company Bombardier in 80. Thales didn't take the missile division over until 2000. Most Starstreak production was complete then.
Who designed that and more importantly who apprved it😮theres a lot of moving parts adding expense and complexity and additional failure modes tho to be fair in practice it seemsto be a perfectly tuned weapon with high success
The Starstreak is not a all weather system, cloud and smoke can defeat it. Plus it must optically engage the target so the man portable option is out to lase a fast moving target even with Stabilization is very difficult.
I'm sure its design specs include that it has to at least fit in a pickup truck, and that an average sized man can hold it up for a while. I wasn't a stinger operator in the army, but I held one and it was Hella heavy. Starstreak appears to be even bigger as it is.
Wow, i hope it does a mixture of laser and infared tracking. Keeping a manual steady aim on a fast moving object at those ranges is super difficult with even steady camera platforms, let alone shoulder mounted.
It uses powerful thermal vision cameras and imaging algorithms track the target and guide the laser. making it impossible to jam or throw up utilizing flares
@@carwyngriffiths anything using thermal or IR will be affected by flares. They must have some pretty good algorithms to blend in the laser data to avoid that. Maybe operator gives general direction to help ignore lasers and precession is from heat.
The Stormer is not a tank. It can barely be considered an AFV armoured fighting vehicle. If journos are going to do a report specifically about military equipment, you could at least get these basic details right.
Newest manpads systems (which interestingly are unique russian verba manpads system) use wide range seekers that include ultraviolet might be immune to heat decoys This technology should outmatch starstreak because it has none of the drawbacks that laser guidence system has Actually this is one of the few wapon systems which surpassed everything that is available currently around the globe and it might be a very dangerous peace of technology that western armsmakers should take into consideration
Stinger got a combined IR+UV seeker as early as in 1981. Also, if Verba is truly advanced, I'm sceptical ruZZia will be able to produce meaningful quantities under sanctions.
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the targeting system is ingenious.
designer 1 "its a bird, we need a shotgun"
designer 2. "okay, three heavy tungsten darts."
designer 1 "we also need velocity"
designer 2 "okay, three tungsten darts moving at mach 3"
designer 1 "we also need a choke so the darts don't spread out too much, we only have three."
designer 2 "how about having a launcher with two different frequency lasers draw a cone made up of grids, at very high frame rate. with each dart looking forwards at the lightshow and steering towards the grids centre. move the cone, and the darts will see and adjust."
designer 1 "...."
and thus the first hypervelocity tungsten dart shotgun with laser choke, good out too 4 miles, adjusting against moving targets, was born.
and some people thought it was just a MANPAD.
...and the aircraft isn’t able to detect the low density laser. Thank you for filling in the gaps for WSJ 😊
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Seconded.
"Cold war missile"
It was accepted into service in 1997.
By my calculation, that makes it 6 years post-cold war.
Developed in the cold war era, presumably with the intention of being used against cold war threats... which I guess is the Russians, what are the odds.
RND began in the late 1980s.
@@hymns4ever197 By that logic, the Tiger I is an interwar tank then...
Starstreak was produced in 1986. Why it took military so long to accept it into service this is another question, but missiles is production since 1986. So yes, it is "Cold war missile"
It's a hilarious concept that the cold war ended in 1991
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StarStreak is also effective against lightly armoured vehicles such as APC's, reconnaissance vehicles, etc.
For those that want to see its actual results, the Mi-28 that got its tail ripped off, was a victim of a starstreak.
The one that flew back to base?
@@horacecunningham7832 An Earlier Ka 52 was blown in half by Starstreak with total loss of crew. The one you are talking about is a Ka-52 that lost a tail fin (not the tail). Probably from a near miss by a Stinger.
@@horacecunningham7832 12 MI-28 have been destroyed or damaged without any possible fix, so far. So one of them. At least.
@@horacecunningham7832 As the MI 28 has a tail rotor and can´t fly without a tail (the ka 52 can) no, that one did definitely not make it home. Which is good.
Why you think it is starstreak? This system is too short range and big for attacking helicopter, that usually attack from 8-10 km.
StarStreak is in a league of its own when taking out targets within its range.
When was it tested ? Vs a worthy opponent ,illegal war 2003 was never a worth opponent
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It is being tested right now. And it passed with flying colors;) All the puns intended.
@@jeckjeck3119I don't see evidence of that
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Russia not having the air superiority (against literally a border nation) is evidence enough.
@@jeckjeck3119 in my understanding Russia is not on a fully fledged war. Their air assets are reserved for the time when it will be a direct confrontation with NATO. I think Russia doesn't need much air superiority while they can simply dominate in artillery.
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So do the arms manufacturers and their shareholders. Please, by all means, continue the war, and keep the bulk orders coming. Investing in your defense, 6,000 miles away fighting a nuclear-armed adversary, is a much better investment than healthcare, education, or fixing the potholes. 9 out of 10 Congresscritters agree! We would also greatly appreciate your support for arming Taiwan against incursion from the Chinese.
@@kma3647 Ukraine is defeating and demilitarizing neo-fascist ruSSia, taking one of the two axis powers out of the game before WW3 even starts.
And all it's costing is some out-dated kit that was being replaced anyway.
It's a bargin.
Paired with the brimstone missles they are an incredible Ying and yang
Originally developed and made by British company Shorts who were later sold to Thales, the darts look back towards the laser source for guidance not forward to an illuminated target.
Mainstream media often suck at covering defence topics but WSJ is a wonderfull exeption
First video I think I've ever seen where an American pronounces Thales correctly
One of those Kamov rattletrap helicopter got shot down by a starstreak about a year ago. Took it's whole tail off.
Check again. That was an Mil Mi-28N Havoc, not a Kamov Ka-52.
Ka-52 has demonstrated the ability to fly without a tail.
@@hyhhy Ka-52 has contra rotating rotors so does not need a tail fin or tail rotor to land, maybe not safe but to get down. 💯mate, spot on.
@@hyhhy AHAHAHAHA ahgahahag no.
I can sorta fly with no tail fin, yes. But fly with no tail? Nope.
@@whither9851it can fly with no tail, but speed will be decreased.
Mi-28 can't fly without tail.
We gotta keep supporting Ukraine 🇺🇦 in its fight for existence against Russia
Who is stopping you from that?
Maybe you expect others to do stuff, I don’t think many people are going to do that while man from Ukraine are delivering pizza in countries across Europe.
Since you want to support Ukraine there is still hope for victory.
Ok then you wanna keep going then pay up, They just did a study that said this war has cost americans 900$ per taxpayer so cough it up
all war mongerers are beneath human. it is cowardly to want more war without willing to fight it yourself
There is something very goofy yet effective about this definitively English design. May all your darts find your enemy. Cheers 🇬🇧 🫖
Shorts Brothers is in Belfast - Northern Ireland, not England......
@@ralphlorenz4260 c’mon I may be a dumb American but even I know Northern Ireland is full of Englishmen. Still, you have a point. thanks for the reply.
@@ralphlorenz4260That's where it's built. Not designed.
They now want war to shift the focus from plan-demic crimes to another issue.
That's what the world needs to understand!
People are being manipulated into hating each other, so that they can fight each other, and the killers of plan-demic to escape.
Glad to see that they work well.
@@blazenkojakovljevic9708yeah they are pretty bad they keep colliding with Ruzzian helicopters
Baffles me why it takes ages to provide Ukraine with weapons needed.
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Why don't you pay for them instead then?
@@samiam5557The missiles have already been bought years ago, if we don’t donate them to Ukraine they would just sit in a warehouse until they retire, so this is a way better use for them.
Nobody is interested in this racket
@@WeWazKangz Trust me a lot of people are. Also pretty telling you have a Russian flag in your username.
Shipping old surplus to Ukraine is probably cheaper than storage, maintenance, and eventually disposal.
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Perhaps they can get all the Kit you Yanks left when you ran away in Afghanistan?.
At least the Russian fight unlike Yanks who cower whilst waiting for Air support to do the work.
Remember in the Gulf War the US refused to send in troops to deal with Scud missiles, so the SAS did it(It was too dangerous for USA).
Shorts Missile Systems was a British company based in Belfast, Northern Ireland, a country, region or province (multiple descriptions) that is part of the United Kingdom of Great Britain (England, Scotland and Wales) and Northern Ireland.
It's like saying North America is the United States. It's not. North America also includes Canada.
Thank you for pronouncing Thales correctly.
I don’t think the Starstreak’s “going into reproduction”; it’s just production. Unless the missiles are breeding, or being photocopied. Words matter, WSJ.
I hope Ukraine keep getting these weapons.
StarStreak is a badass weapon but how on earth do the 3 darts seek a lazer? They just look like metal darts. It's amazing to me how do they do it.
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the same as Pantsir-S1 as they mostly used optic-guided/laser-guided missiles to shut downed targets opposed to TOR fire & forget systems
Sweden have donated RBS 70 NG with simular propertys as well, but i dont know how many.
The Swedish RBS70 also uses laser beam riding. At 9km it has a 50% greater range though at Mach 1.7 it has half the speed. It’s wrong to assume these missiles use purely manual tracking. Powerful thermal vision cameras and imaging algorithms track the target and guide the laser. These are too sophisticated to jam. Unfortunately neither starstreak or RBS70 has the ability to outrange Russias 12km Vikhr helicopter launched missiles. Tragically the west neglected its Short Range Air defences and has nothing much to give Ukraine.
StarStreak Is currently at mk2 with mk3 awaiting production (mk.3 reaches much further). For longer ranges you can put a Martlet missile inside the StarStreak platform giving a additional mile defence at the sacrifice of speed. UK has given both to Ukraine.
UK uses CAAM missiles for further range that go upto 100km with a separate radar platform or 16km without the platform and can be fired from SAM sites or A2A. It's not about supply... it's about politics and safety... Every NATO country will not give Ukraine equipment that can be used to attack Russia directly or contains secret equipment that Russia does not already have technical information on.
@@babalonkie The whole war is about attacking Russia directly...whether in Ukraine or in Russia. It is about supply and demand and nothing to do with politics...Ukraine already has these missiles, so it is no problem for them. The Uk started ramping up the missile manufacture many months ago...so they are not in short supply any more...they were months ago. The original supply was for munitions no longer being used but i store...they were so successful, they had to restart the manufacture process they stopped in 2012.
@@sqnhunter I am not saying UK does or does not have the supply... i am just telling you that the latest weapons will never be sent, not without being downgraded, no matter how many are made.
Even storm shadow had it's advanced avionics removed and it's range more than halved. In accordance with international arms treaties and to not escalate the war by having NATO weapons striking inside Russia... that's not a opinion, that's information from MY government and NATO.
Nothing will be sent to Ukraine that Russia can steal information or tech from or that could be used on Russian legal territory. The most advanced tech will always be used in defence of home nations and NATO... no matter the circumstances.
And NATO's goal is not to beat or destroy Russia... It's to allow Ukraine to defend itself and get Putin to pull his troops out of Ukraine... that's it. Soon as Putin pulls out, NATO will withdraw most of it's military support and ALL support should Ukraine decide to push into Russia after.
@babalonkie CAMM-ER could not reach 100km, let alone CAMM. I don't know where you are getting your information about range. An air-to-air ASRAAM would not reach that engagement distance. However even an ASRAAM strapped onto a truck is a viable answer to Russian attack helicopter. CAMM, IRIST-T SLS as well as other system are capable of providing SHORAD where MANPADS can't reach. It is worth noting that even if Starstreak, LMM, RBS70NG have shorter range than Vikhr armed attack heli, they are not worthless. A low flying non evading Russian helicopter at 10km is still in....the danger ZOOONE
@@jacopo952 "CAMM-ER could not reach 100km, let alone CAMM. I don't know where you are getting your information about range. An air-to-air ASRAAM would not reach that engagement distance. However even an ASRAAM strapped onto a truck is a viable answer to Russian attack helicopter. CAMM, IRIST-T SLS as well as other system are capable of providing SHORAD where MANPADS can't reach. It is worth noting that even if Starstreak, LMM, RBS70NG have shorter range than Vikhr armed attack heli, they are not worthless. A low flying non evading Russian helicopter at 10km is still in....the danger ZOOONE"
Who said anything about "CAMM-ER"? I said CAAM.
CAAM is the warhead and seeker.
CAAM - Common Anti-Air *MODULAR* Missile
CAMM-ER has a range of 45km.
CAMM-MR same seeker and warhead but different booster, can reach 100km.
CAMM (The warhead and seeker) can track by itself for 16km.
Both can be fired from the ground and one can be fired from air.
At the same time, Starstreak needs the target being illuminated with a laser...
When it comes to do it better than the Stinger, the MBDA Mistral may not have 3 darts but has that kind of speed, a seeker that can't be jammed and the advantage of being fire'n'forget...
Now there's a new problem : the new russian airborne anti-tank missile ranges 15km, putting choppers outside of ManPADS ranges...
In other terms, CIWS/C-RAM guns are needed to intercept either incoming missiles or small loitering ammos, and short range SAMs similar to the Crotale Mk3 are needed to deel with choppers and attack aircraft
I advice taking "15 km" with a truckload of salt, just like any other claim by ruZZia.
It's insanely cringe when people call western donated equipment "ukraines equipment" it's a british/french missile not ukraine. Ukraine would be fighting with rocks and sticks without our equipment stop saying it's ukraines.
Ok okay... Positive. We can even call it good, BUT where are the so necessary competent airplanes for Ukrayina to defend itself appropriately?! Nearly two years are passing with Ukraine repeatedly begging for those since the start!!
That’s going to make someone’s eyes water.
Yea!
Unusually, the 3 darts do not follow a laser beam- the sensors are in the rear and they look "backwards," toward the operator. This prevents non-reflective surfaces or smoke dischargers from having any counter effect.
The system is certainly difficult to master. So much so that only specially-trained gunners from The Royal Artillery, use them. I am told that it takes close to a hundred simulated launches before a trainee is allowed to fire a real, $150,000 unit.
stingers dont just look for heat. they look at the target they are locked to and are basically tv guided by referencing the original target flares wont really work.
Called Imagine Infrared Seeker.
Flares can blind it
0:22 RQ9 reaper. drones like Saheds makes sense. but not a RQ9. they are just way high up (15 km) and the starstreak does 7km, its lacking more than double the height.
The British should produce a new standalone and vehicle mountable variant of Star streak with an off the shelf optical tracking system directing the laser - this could be quickly fitted to ships, helicopters as well as land vehicles and land-only installations. We have nothing of consequence in the field until you get to Sky Sabre and Sea Cepter (the ASRAAM based systems) which are very expensive to operate against low value targets like drones or speedboats.
It already is. The British Apaches and some ground vehicles can mount multiple starstreak launchers. The Apache even uses them to take out ground vehicles.
I read the Title as Star Trek for a solid two minutes
Stinger is old technology. Production since the 1990’s have been low rate for foreign military sales (FMS). I’m surprised that the engines in these 25 year old systems still ignite. Uncle Sam was preoccupied fighting insurgents in Afghanistan and Iraq so long which didn’t have any planes that they forgot how to fight first world armies.
Abrams, f16, f15 very old design. But upgraded multiple times like stinger. 😊
Good design for short deployment. Compact for in the field. One of the better choices for infantry personnel. Similar to the SNAP-38.
The quickest fix to the 7-15km range problem would probably be a booster rocket for current manpad missiles.
Star Streak already uses a booster rocket.
Problems might be insufficient battery/coolant ( optics ) for the missile to function in that range.
I also expect new gen MANPADs to increase the lethality of their warheads. Too many damaged Su's are able to RTB.
IR seekers don't need coolant. As for the batteries, a thermal battery usually does the job for the few seconds of guidance, the problem is most likely the IR sensor itself and the lens, a sensor upgrade might actually make it more efficient. but from what I understand there are physical limitations of how far a lens can zoom depending on its size. and you also have to take into account that its not a variable lens, so it will need to have the right balance of being able to see wide enough and far enough. As for the range, adding a booster might work, but realistically would cause issues in the production line if they want to put it out fast. most practical way would be to change the chemistry of the solid fuel, that way dimensions, weight, etc. will stay the way they are.
Ukrainians are related to Russians, they also speak Russian! Not to mention that the resources on that territory are not used for their well-being, but are used for the benefit of those in the West. There is nothing to defend! Do you want peace? Then it's simple: Don't fight! You have nothing to fight for! The media washes people brains and makes them hate each other!
Won't help manpads, because you need to be able to see something before you can think to shoot at it. Also adds weight, which lowers effectiveness for something specifically designed to be portable.
@@rainerkinzinger555 Wrong, most military IR sensors are cooled to about 80 degrees Kelvin usually with liquid Nitrogen gas, N2. There are some uncooled systems in the military but they are usually short range. Also the problem with a zoom lens for a missile seeker is that you need the widest field of view and highest resolution at the start, long range. The control unit usually has multiple fields of view to acquire the target.
@@mrbaab5932 I think you mean those thermal sensors? im sure those IR laser sensors don't need cooling. the thermal ones do need it. we're talking about the infrared laser guided missile =D
Sounds like they need to build a lot of those Missiles in production and possibly make some larger ones for longer distances.
We stopped making them because we didn't need them, now we need them we'll be making more. It's similar to wars and peacetime corresponding to troop numbers.
I remember Starstreak missiles made by Irish from that History Channel show called Future Weapons back in the early 2000's, when Mack narrated the show...... was super deadly back 20+ years ago !!!!!
Thank you Great Britain
Its range is too short. Leopard 2 was attacked from about 8 miles away.
Can also be used in direct attack on ground targets also
I just want to point out that lasers can definitely be jammed. And every modern military has some form of jammer against it.
with so much great weapons... the ukrainians must be doing great in the counteroffensive right
better than russias invasion of kiev.
@@miguellopez3392 probably should be, with so many superior weapons. and i think you meant attack on kiev
@yueyu1479 invasion, they had many trucks lined up to enter the region but pulled back to avoid incirclement, attack if they only launched missiles at the city.
@@miguellopez3392 I see. i thought the word invasion is used as a country level, rather than cities.
@@yueyu1479 who made you think that? Russia invaded ukrain in 2014, or do you think that was just an attack by militia?
There should be a similar misiile which will embed itself in concrete as the Kerch Bridge
Russia has anti-laser countermeasures. These systems are automated in their attack helicopters
Doesn't work several Mi-28 and Ka-52 have fell from the sky thanks to Star streak.
So if russia say something it's true right?
No countermeasure is perfect. Many aircraft die to heatseekers after popping flares. I'm just saying, it's not accurate to portray this system as an unbeatable weapon. Every weapon is beatable. The real question is, can Russia afford to field such an expensive system on mass. I'm sure the mi-28s that died were not fitted with an anti-laser system at all.
@@miguellopez3392 I'm going to assume this was directed at me. Russia is not the one saying they have this system. Other countries are aware of this system. And other countries field these same systems. Laser designation is very easy to spoof if you know the direction of the emitter. Or you can just dump smoke if you're panicking. This isn't a propaganda issue. This is actual technology fielded by world powers.
@@Blu0tuth0ninja none has it they can’t afford it.
It is 400mph faster than a Stinger, not 100. Good article.
War journalism is like a competition to see who can fit the most incorrect information into the shortest time
Britain has supplied truck mounted ASRAAM missiles with 25km range.. These missiles were used on British Tornado etc as air to air missiles.
Assram?!
stinger go 2.9 miles. Some other manpads go as far as 5 miles. Star Streak is something else.
Bye Russia
Thank you, America, for making Europe a safer place!
😂 yeah, right ✅️ bidenko × jewlensky carez sooo much 😢
Mate these were given by the British, designed by the Irish and manufactured by the French. Ain't no American here.
@@boringperson-zb8vy you are right MBDA
@@boringperson-zb8vy They were given by the British, designed by the British (try telling anyone in the Belfast plant they are 'Irish' and see how long you last...its overwhelmingly Protestant Unionist workforce, always has been..). Shorts Bros was taken over by the Canadian company Bombardier in 80. Thales didn't take the missile division over until 2000. Most Starstreak production was complete then.
@@alainamoretti7452 Starstreak is made by Thales UK. Used to be called Short Brothers...
It flies in Mach 4, not 3.
Extra points for pronouncing "Thales" correctly ('taliss')!
This missile should be scaled up, entering high altitude and then separating small missiles to dive down. This is not like a toy
The darts don’t explode, they use pure kinetic energy.
3675 km p/h 😮
Nice one 👍
This conflict was never about making peace. Its about weapons testing ground 😢
Shut up, Vatnik. Russia started it. You want an end to the war? Leave Ukraine.
And thats an issue why? if it leads to the same result it would simply be imbecilic and short sighted not to test arms and such.
Yusefjohan, the prospect of fully collapsing a tyranny gives me 😂😂❤❤. What about you, eh?
The cold war era was insane.
Latest version of Stingers have ultraviolet as well as infrared sensors; aren't fooled by flares
The game changer of all game changers
This is nice kit
Who designed that and more importantly who apprved it😮theres a lot of moving parts adding expense and complexity and additional failure modes tho to be fair in practice it seemsto be a perfectly tuned weapon with high success
Ukraine Army: One Counter Offensive, No Results [ WSJ Ignores
Ok Igor
Mach 3, not 3 Mach
Yet another wonder weapon that will fail.
send more
Peter Zeihan recently had good things to say about the WSJ. High praise! Too bad that most of their stuff is paywalled, and expensive to boot.
It can also hit ground vehicles.
the Sibilance!!!! is wild on this video !
I think there are counter measures for such stuff, just not as abundant...
There is, but it can only be found on ground vehicles, not aircrafts
gotchaa thnx for info
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The Starstreak is not a all weather system, cloud and smoke can defeat it. Plus it must optically engage the target so the man portable option is out to lase a fast moving target even with Stabilization is very difficult.
The British martlet fragmentary missile with the same targeting would be better for Drones
Do you know what "hypersonic" means?
Just think, the Cold War wasn't a waste of resource after all.
The missiles actually should have a minimum range of 20 km...
I'm sure its design specs include that it has to at least fit in a pickup truck, and that an average sized man can hold it up for a while. I wasn't a stinger operator in the army, but I held one and it was Hella heavy. Starstreak appears to be even bigger as it is.
Wow, i hope it does a mixture of laser and infared tracking. Keeping a manual steady aim on a fast moving object at those ranges is super difficult with even steady camera platforms, let alone shoulder mounted.
it's pretty much impossible which is why Starstreak and its predecessor Blowpipe never hit anything.
@@Withnail1969 There's videos of it hitting things in Ukraine? and Martlet has also been tested quite a bit?
It uses powerful thermal vision cameras and imaging algorithms track the target and guide the laser. making it impossible to jam or throw up utilizing flares
@@carwyngriffiths anything using thermal or IR will be affected by flares. They must have some pretty good algorithms to blend in the laser data to avoid that. Maybe operator gives general direction to help ignore lasers and precession is from heat.
@@carwyngriffiths ive seen one dubious video which may or may not have been starstreak. nothing else.
The Stormer is not a tank. It can barely be considered an AFV armoured fighting vehicle. If journos are going to do a report specifically about military equipment, you could at least get these basic details right.
There's a reason we're called Great Britain...
Fyi, there are countermeasures for laser guidance as well.
Pretty sure they can only be found on ground vehicles, and Starstreaks are Beam Riding not Laser guided
Newest manpads systems (which interestingly are unique russian verba manpads system) use wide range seekers that include ultraviolet might be immune to heat decoys
This technology should outmatch starstreak because it has none of the drawbacks that laser guidence system has
Actually this is one of the few wapon systems which surpassed everything that is available currently around the globe and it might be a very dangerous peace of technology that western armsmakers should take into consideration
Interesting because Ukraine has already captured 4 of the Verba. And no country wants to buy the Verba from Russia
Stinger got a combined IR+UV seeker as early as in 1981.
Also, if Verba is truly advanced, I'm sceptical ruZZia will be able to produce meaningful quantities under sanctions.
Avenger style...when to strike Hulk, Spiderman 🕸️ 🕷️ & Thor attacks simultaneously..😅
Realy I like this powerful missile
Is this an add for the Military Industrial Complex?
Shame its mounted on a cvrt striker from the 60s. Cant even stop 7.62. And all the potential mechanical issues.
Russia;s counter to this was the dazzler system, however, this has proved inefective
Países inteligentes sabem que é a Ucrania quem está salvando a Europa contra um Estado Terrorista; Não o contrário. Ajudar a Ucrânia não é opção; É uma obrigação. Mais que obrigação é garantia de um futuro de Paz e Liberdade.
Didn't saved leopards and Bradleys from ka-52 tho.
Probably because Russia doesn't use Ka-52 missiles on the battlefield but on targeting innocent civilians.
@@steveprocter6241 cope
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Another good reason for pewtin to NOT start this mess.
The media at it again 😂
More like a fancy Konnet missile system lets hope its dirt cheap cause that's what matters in modern war.
THIS Wunderwaffen is sure to turn the tide. Unlike the last several.