Why is Christianity such a threat to Marxism?
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- čas přidán 23. 06. 2023
- Rod Dreher explains that Marxists viewed Christianity as a false religion that sanctifies the ruling class and keeps the poor superstitious and easy to control. In this video, he explains why such ideologies perceive Christianity as a threat and share essential facts to understand the issue.
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Charles Spurgeon was a contemporary of Karl Marx who preached against Marxism.
The spiritual battle still rages.
Douglas Murray has rightly advised that when one hears the words “social justice’ by today’s definition one should think social revenge.
Thank you for discussing these realities
Great book on this topic- "The Devil and Karl Marx" by Paul Kengor
Just now learning about Marxism. Really explains a lot of the things that are shaping our world today. Thankful for this interview.
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Have you read the communist manifesto? Its really short and caused revolts all over europe as the poor realizes how much the rich were exploiting them. Meh, what did those stupid poor people know though eh.
Marxism hasn't had a significant influence on anything since 1991. Some of the ways of thinking that are grouped under the label "woke" have origins that were influenced by Marxism, but they are built on substantially different foundations. In particular things like Queer Theory or Critical Race Theory have no place for Marxism's central concept of class.
@@stephengray1344 you're incorrect
Good reads
The Big Lie By Dinesh D'Souza, he had another on the socializing of American
Arguing with socialists by Glenn beck
@@malibudolphin3109 I'm not familiar with DiSouza's book, but since it's subtitle claims that the American "left" has roots in Nazism it isn't even remotely relevant. Nazism was a variety of Fascism - an ideology which saw itself as the enemy of Marxism.
The idea that America (by which I assume you mean the USA) has been socialised is utterly laughable. The only American politician of note in the last four decades who was any kind of socialist is Bernie Sanders - who's at the extreme left of the Democrats. And he's a Social Democrat, rather than a Marxist.
If you want to understand what people on the economic left actually think, and where their ideas actually come from, then you ought to look into the issue by reading what they write, rather than what extreme right-wing media personalities like Glen Beck think.
The Zeitgeist Movie took the same approach: attempting to push Christianity aside to make way for the utopia of the Venus project.
Excellent epidlsode! Thank you.
It figures that the concept of Social Justice would be created by a Roman catholic priest.
There is a lot of truth spoken here but I remember Jesus saying "The poor you will always have with you", and that Jesus commissioned us to make disciples not fight Social Justice wars, which is a different Gospel?
Social justice in the Catholic sense would mean protesting against abortion and the queering of kids at school behind parents back. That sort of thing. The poorest and most vulnerable people of society deserve justice as well. Marxist and communist thinkers and rulers weren't fond of the Catholic/Orthodox church either...
When Jesus said "The poor you will always have with you", he wasn't instructing his disciples to ignore poverty. He was quoting Deuteronomy 15:11 "For the poor shall never cease out of the land: therefore I command thee, saying, "Thou shalt open thine hand wide unto thy brother, to thy poor, and to thy needy in thy land." KJV. If Christians truly followed the teachings of holy scripture, there would be no need for a Social Justice movement. Instead, modern Christians waste so much time and energy defending their own petty views of who is "in" and who is "out" of the fold. I call it the ' You Don't Christian(TM) like I Christian(TM)' pettiness.
The Millennium will reveal the truth about human nature. Creating a utopian society will not change the heart of a man or woman… only surrender to the Lord Jesus can do this. Amen! ✝️
Have you surrendered? Do you still sin ?
If we all surrendered =>?would sin no longer exist ?
Our position may change but our condition is still fallen.
We are Jewish believers called Xians, who sold all to follow Jesus and expected to live what the New Covenant of Jer 31:31-35 teaches…..
…..we are the BOC, living in the mystery age of grace……
HUGE DIFFERENCE !!!
You just unwittingly revealed the greatest weakness of premillennialism; in that millions of the citizens in the millennium under the infinite rulership of the Lord Jesus Christ, after the pretrib rapture and first resurrection will rebel against Him. This is why premillennialism isn't biblical. Humanity rebelling twice under the direct rule of God, especially during the latter rebellion while Satan is incarcerated in Hades?
Oo exciting! I can't wait to add this to my "Art Collection" as a Christian Artist who is doing research for Apologetics :D
I hope your research goes well!!
Larry Taunton just did a podcast in this .
"Faithful Christians"? Hm. There's a hard label to figure out. I notice Rod Dreher lumps "faithful Christians" with orthodox Catholics, or "faithful Catholics". Interesting clip. I don't see how anyone can get "marriage between one man and one woman is BAD" past the nose of anyone who actually is a Christian and is also paying any attention. Just because someone goes to a "church" doesn't mean they are a faithful Christian.
By the way, regardless of Rod Dreher's lumping of Catholics and Christians together, his book "Live Not By Lies" is, I believe, an indispensable read for all Christians in America. We need to follow it's sage advice and do our preparing now: if we are not already in jail, that is.
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It's sad I had to call the cops at Florida at saint Petersburg moral depravity because nothing was happening it's sad if cops was there nothing was being done about it it's a shame I mean almost completely naked guy indecency in the public in the street yet nothing happens to him
Acts 4
32 All the believers were one in heart and mind. No one claimed that any of their possessions was their own, but they shared everything they had. 33 With great power the apostles continued to testify to the resurrection of the Lord Jesus. And God’s grace was so powerfully at work in them all 34 that there were no needy persons among them. For from time to time those who owned land or houses sold them, brought the money from the sales 35 and put it at the apostles’ feet, and it was distributed to anyone who had need.
Marx would say "sounds good to me".
It was temporary & never would have worked, never does. The commune was expecting the ‘return of Christ’ to be in their time, they thought his return imminent as they had no understanding so, the believers stayed together but didn’t last long.
@@masada2828 In what way does it not "work"? The Jerusalem church was destroyed within 40 years when Jerusalem itself was destroyed.
@@11kravitzn The Jerusalem church was not destroyed when the city was destroyed. Secular history shows that the church heeded Christ's words in His Olivet Prophecy where He warns Christians to leave when they see the surrounded by armies. The members fled to Pella during the Roman siege on the city.
@@theeternalsbeliever1779 What history?
Marx would not be ok with this because there is a huge difference in parties distributing “private property” as their individual prerogative vs Forced (stolen) wealth redistribution. The individual is sacrificed to the collective under Marxism. What people seem to miss about the early church is they chose to give and were not forced to give.
Christianity allows for private property and generosity. Marxism appears to emphasise the collective with little respect for private property.
Didn't Jesus say to the rich man to give away all his possessions and follow him?
You have no understanding of marxism
Marx had contribution to his thought from Thomas Muncer and the Anabaptists! Capitalism can take a hit as well....with excessive individualism and constant appeals to selfish ambition! Distributisim has a more of christian thought!!!
There is nothing remotely Christian about the distribution of wealth because it requires the government to essentially steal from wealthy ppl and then divide it among ppl who did nothing to earn it. That's stealing. And according to God's law, that is a sin. The concept sounds righteous, but that's how Satan presents himself and his doctrines.
Good video!
Great video I even thought of this too. Noticing from the past few years how the world shifted
The short, offensive answer is: Because Karl Marx started a cult by making his own apocalyptic predictions, and within the cult, no external religion is allowed to supersede the cult's doctrine.
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That sounds familiar.
Amen God I remember Marxism as I'm learning trying to figure out what is going on his society culture
They are the same thing.
Charles Spurgeon vip mvp
She sounds like a calvinist .
I thought she was one?
"“If you want to be perfect, go, sell your possessions and give to the poor"---"Karl Marx"
Then why the rich Christians don't do this?
@@Jamhael1 Ah, I think because they don't really believe what they claim to believe.
@@mashah1085 at least, Marxists are consistent - we do not tell others to pretend that we don't live in a Capitalist society: there is no option at the moment, so, once in Rome...
@@Jamhael1 All moot anyway. In
Jesus was proving a point that the man was not as righteous as he claimed because his wealth was his idol. Yes, for many of us Christians it still is. However, this incidence is not a command because Jesus knows that money doesn't solve the true needs of people because our true need is spiritual in nature. But, I agree, we Christians can be very rebellious against the Sermon on the Mount/Plain.
The most Marxist groups ever, were the earliest Christians. They were required to share everything except wives. They were encouraged to sell their big ticket items, and give ALL the proceeds to their bosses, the apostles. If they didn't give ALL the money to head apostle Peter, they could be killed on the spot. It's articulated in the Bible: Acts:5. For more Bible data, which your preacher doesn't want you to know about, google book title: Candy Coated Jesus. Available online.
What you described is not Marxism. Marxism is solely about the proletariat class, ceasing the means of production. You described a basic communal tribe of the first century, now I do agree that Christianity is a communal faith but not compatible with Marxism for obvious reasons.
Wow, rare win for the Marxists.
Fight for justice, here on earth. Yet ... (1) "Judgement belongs to the Lord" and (2) "If your neighbor compels you to walk a mile, walk with him two."
Marx DOES have an apparently valid criticism of Christianity, in this regard. Valid, that is, only IF the (correct) goal is to alleviate human suffering.
There are many things of God that I cannot understand, and that are very difficult to accept. Alas, this is one of them. P.S. I hold Marx in derision, almost en toto.
Please everyone look into James Lindsey’s work related to this topic.
I am a Marxist, and read the entire Bible, and I only see NONSENSE from you in this video.
But as usual, only the Theists are this ARROGANT to the point of claiming "I know what god think"...
Marxism and Christianity really aren’t that contradictory to each other
Yes they are
@@RandomGuy-sn3ne how?
It's simple the rich elite control everything.Jesus is free us from sin and shame.He redeem us on the cross for all iniquity...
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I'm not a Marxist but I agree with Marx's view of Christianity.
If Christianity was true and not a human invention then all suffering would have ended long ago.
No, suffering is the fault of mankind thru a sin nature & wont end until Jesus Christ returns to set up the Kingdom of God on earth.
You are mistaken. And it is a fact that Marxism has led to more human suffering and murder in a time period of 100 years than all of prior human history.
Max obviously knew nothing about Christianity.
Adding that Christianity also teaches that mankind is not good and is naturally inclined to evil. Only through Christ can hearts be changed. The more a society turns from God the more wicked it becomes.
Marx didn't hate Christianity, he acknowledged the good that it did but he also acknowledged the faulty system behind it, he believed it would just fade away once classes are abolished.
"Religion is the sigh of the oppressed creature, the heart of a heartless world, and soul of the soulless conditions. It is the opium of the people" -Karl Marx.
This is an appeal to universal morality though meaning you are invoking metaphysics, and without the belief in a higher power there is no basis for all people being equal or even things we consider basic rights. It becomes just subjective to the culture which could change at any time.
Christianity means to deny yourself and pick up your cross and follow Jesus. Marxism is about the very opposite starting with the cardinal sin of pride, finding power in yourself as opposed to knowing the only real power is God. Marxism is all about individualized power in oneself. As we know as Christians that is where all sin begins and the most profound destructive lie the enemy tells us . Every sin starts with pride as demonstrated in Genesis, trying to be equal to or more powerful than God. And Marxism is based in pride from pride that's why most Marxist are secular..
Pride in what? The prideful in society are the bourgeois that dictate a false sense of morality by explliting religion to further their ends!