Why this 700HP V8 Ford Raptor R is WAY MORE ECONOMICAL than a Lightning electric pickup truck
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- čas přidán 26. 09. 2023
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I understand why raptors are cool but I miss small useable single cab trucks. It's disappointing the truck market is basically SUVs with 6' beds
Yeah its difficult to build a small truck with how much safety standards the US has. They need to design a bunch of crumple zones, reinforce the roof, add a bunch of tech that the market expects in the new truck, etc. You'll have to go out of the country like Mexico to see small new cars. But you probably don't want to think about what their safety standards are, lol.
If I'm honest, most of the enthusiasts who say they'll buy X car if they made it can't afford a new car in the first place. If no one buys it, company doesn't make money. Most of the people online are all talk and no action.
What do you need a smaller truck for? This is AMERICA, NOT EUROPE. Don't settle for less 🇺🇲
Good news! You can still get a single cab 8’ bed f150.
What are you disappointed about they still make those too, obviously you're not actually in the market for one or you haven't been looking apparently .. they are everywhere... Just get a basic single cab F-150 work truck... they are a dime a dozen and everywhere too
@@Shorty15c4007 I can't disagree with anything you said, but it also doesn't explain why the Maverick has (or had) a 2 year long wait list and why several other manufacturers are making competitor models.
Glad to see Hoovie going back to his original content as a pickup truck reviewer.
Disappointed he didn't do a towing review...
Just wait until you see what happens on his BMW M6.... it's on-brand for Hoovie... a total train wreck.
I have it on good authority that that's what his channel is known for.
He is a towing specialist...
hahaha a truck youtube channel
Haha! I love that Wizard is slapping a diesel into that half ton. What a boss.
One of my co-workers has the F150 PowerBoost Hybrid and they love it. The large battery in it is great for powering tools while they work on their remote cabin but it’s not a full EV so they also don’t have to worry about running out of power.
Did Tyler just realize he can make the exact same videos we enjoy without actually having to buy the cars? Review the nice ones and buy the hoopties. Save money and still provide interesting content.
Are you his CPA?
New car reviews were never his thing, I came for the broken turds.
but a big part of his channel is making horrible financial decisions lol
@@gman1003more like divorce lawyer
Did you just realize that he's independently wealthy and cries poor/pretends $4000 will "break him" to humble brag?
My 2017 F150 5.0 coyote fully loaded lariat still basically works other than the parallel parking feature. It currently has 253,764 miles on it. I love this truck and really don’t want to ever get rid of it!
Why didn't he mention the 5.0 coyote at all thats 1 of fords best engines
have the same year XLT, coyote, hard to beat and once the warranty is gone there isn't a lot of BS to replace at ridiculous prices, for instance, models with perimeter cameras, radar and lane sensing? in the rear that's all mounted in the tail lamps, just one lamp housing and lense is $1800, if you need modules it's another $800 each and there are THREE!!!! I grew up old school and let my eyeballs do my lane sensing all that, don't need no module prone to failure to do my driving for me.. NO THANKS, altho mine isn't base model it doesn't have all the steering BS and all that, no prone to failure 10 speed, 6 speed is fine, this thing can pull a TRAIN in 4 lo! you can do some ECM work so forth to pull 450hp/425t out if reliably, and that's plenty for off roading and pulling loads, 15,000 with upgraded shocks ... all it really needs is an air adjustable ride in the back when you have full loads, even tho she doesn't sag a whole lot just like to have it just to elevate going over some bumps and steep drives, railroad tracks whatever anything abruptly high I could just add some air and not grind the lowboy .. for 5th wheel its ridiculous, a workhorse.. best trucks on the market now the body is all aluminum.. that weight reduction can get me 24 freeway if I go speed limit and drive easy.. not too shabby for a big truck .. this 10 mpg raptor? where would I drive it? it would be offroad only for hunting or something? meh, a heated cab side by side for $13k would work much much better for hunting.. its a trophy truck, period
Lucky lucky, our same year GMC 1500 transmission went out in just under 3/4 of that. 109,***.
Good on ya, man. I hope you get more and more miles with that hotrod!
@@deandee8082 11 6.2L Platinum best F150 ever made. Get a stiffy every time I turn the key. 411 hp 430 t1q. Tow package with mirrors. Feels more powerful than an 08 mustang GT.
You're absolutely correct about the maverick. I had a 2016 Taurus SHO pushing about 400whp and was starting to have typical 3.5 ecoboost issues. I was looking at mavericks but they're all used still asking for MSRP or made to order 3-5+ months out. I winded up trading it in and got a jetta GLI because the 40mpg was so tempting while still being peppy and fun. I would have gone for a maverick if they were available and/or a little more affordable, I did look at a lot of them. Ford just dropping the ball like usual.
Rona delayed a lot of ford stuff, and affected pricing
Fleets are also buying up a ton of Mavericks, like Ecolab, pest control, etc
The Advanced Auto near me uses a Maverick as their runner truck.
I wasn’t a fan of the graphics package, but on the silver it looks acceptable. Very nice
I've loved my Maverick lariat for almost 2 years and it's gotten 23+ mpg (turbo) pulling my teardrop, and taken me way off the beaten path. I know this one was about the raptor but your mention of the Maverick really hits the point properly.
Only 23 MPG?
What did you change on yours?
My neighbor has gotten an average 61 MPG, and loves hers.
I am going to order mine next month, because of her experience.
Despite the dealership being assholes, about ordering them!
So why such low MPG for you?
my deleted 6.7 f350 gets 23 pulling my full gooseneck.
@@bennyboogenheimer4553 towing a 1600lb teardrop camper my guy. I get 30+ on the highway with 245w at3ws and a tune. It's not a hybrid.
@@bilboswaggens2975 I don't believe you. My 6.7 F-250 gets 18 mpg empty.
@@rightwingsafetysquad9872 I really dont believe him or you, my 5.0 f-150 get 18 empty babying it on the highway. (sobs)
That sound proofing when he shuts the door and hearing the vehicle outside is incredible
Best tow test channel out there
Love my '17 SD and not usually a fan of the Raptor, but I'd take this one in a heartbeat.
Good to see you've realised you don't have to buy cars just to keep your channel alive
probly he has to as debt is bad and he probly has to pay more for a new morgage
@@TruthTeller23914😵💫😵💫
Quality tips from a channel with 1 subscriber lmao
He just had to not get married to a gold digger like he ex.
@@ILOVEBACONBOY2018 How do you know she was a gold digger? Unless you know them personally,and even then you have no idea what goes on behind closed doors..All you see on here is content,or what they want you to see..I have no idea what he or his ex wife is like in the real world.He's not publically spoken about his private life that I've seen..The divorce might be amicable,might be his fault..or hers.Do you know them?
Hoovie, thanks for helping out on Steve Magnante's channel. Your content there is appreciated. You are a standup guy for helping a friend.
I would love to see you drive the 500sl again man seeing how you love that car made me fall in love with them. I know it’s not that simple and this is out of nowhere but I figured I would say that in case of the off chance you see this comment. Keep it up with the great content brother 🤙
Beautiful! This is the one one should buy!!!!!I still owe my old 2012 Raptor V8 and love it!!!!!!!
Maintenance goes a long way. I had a 2008 Sierra with over 400,000 miles on it, a 2015 Sierra with over 450,000 on it and it's still driving and my 2019 Sierra it's almost at 300,000 miles. Most people just don't keep them past 100,000 miles
How do you even get 300K miles in just 4 years?? That's an insane amount of driving!
@@Tomazackhotshot driving
@@Tomazack telecommunications repairs in west texas. It should be closer to 400k but covid slowed everything down.
I still have my 2008 Sierra 4x4 with the L76 6L motor. Still going strong and I can't see myself spending $75,000 for a new one.
You driving to the moon and back?
Finally. Another towing test - that's why I subscribed. Thanks for returning to your roots 👍
I appreciate that Hoovie talks about long term reliability and what happens when these behemoths age.
Hoovie's Garage is still my favorite towing review channel,
I'm glad to see a return to the famed Towing Reviews! We've been missing them.
I mean he is called Toowies Garage.
Alex Jones is the 🐐
Gas or diesel just tow better
No truck is worth over $100,000.
They are if that's what people are paying. It may not be worth that to you, and it certainly isn't to me, but someone keeps paying those prices, so they are worth that to enough people that the manufacturer keeps making them.
There are tax advantages to purchasing this truck and using it as a company vehicle.
People buy range rovers for $160k and these trucks are better in every single way. Quality, mpg, power, resale value, reliability, features etc.
@@MrPland1992Range Rover doesn’t have a bed, therefore not a truck. Also has twice the comfort features, much quieter interior and much better ride. Hence, luxury vehicle price. I know, because I own both, although not the R.
i totally agree with all what you've said, i owned Gen1 2014 for 7 years, and i got that quality riding in every shape and form... let alone Gen2 and Gen3.@@MrPland1992
Thanks again Tyler for helping out on Steve Magnante on his channel. I hope there is more to come. I hope your fans show the respect you deserve & let those AD's run through. 👍👍
Love my 2017 Raptor... but damn id love to get the Raptor R someday.
The Ford EV Lighting can tow a diesel generator just fine.
Throw one in the bed and you're still $50K+ less than this raptor.
The 5.0 in the 2011 fx4 13:42 is amazing I have one with 270,000 miles on it yes most of the features no longer work but the engine and Trans are awesome.
I have a 6.2L 2011 Platinum Max Tow Pkg. Everything works. Almost 200K. Change your trans cooler lines though, they are on borrowed time.
I’ve got the same 2011 although an XLT and it’s as smooth as a Town Car. 140k miles and no intention of getting rid of it. It does burn a fair amount of oil but that’s a lot cheaper than spending 80k+ for a truck.
Genuinely curious, what features don't work on yours or have been known to fail on them?
Good hoovie content. Love it man!
oh man, that red Pulsar NX in the background on the lift was my first car! lovely to see there's still a few around
Great video from the best truck and towing channel on youtube.
Excellent timing. My raptor R is scheduled to be built this week
I love my ford maverick. Picked it up over a year ago for 26k$ 7 year 100k bumper to bumper warranty. Makes a great daily driver at 25mpgs on an awd 2.0 ecoboost.
The only universe where that electricly-closing tailgate can exist without instant breakage is one where the bed of that truck NEVER had anything like rocks, or gravel in it. Can you imagine what that lift motor would do while rocks crunched between the bed and the gate? I imagine it has a pressure stop, but nonetheless, just one more thing to friggin' BREAK.
I think EVs began selling above target a few years back because people thought they were a novelty but I guess now that ( 4 year ownership) cycle is coming to an end a lot of people have had their fun and going back to traditional petrol (gas) driven cars..
I wouldn't say that's the case it really depends on your experience. The lightning has been a failure in execution, its inability to perform as sold. EVs are great commuter vehicles but not great for long distance unless your prepared to make the time to charge. I have a Chevy Volt and I can honestly say it's been one of my favorite cars to own. I also have a corvette to balance it out though.
Hardly. Tesla has the most brand loyalty of any brand
@@brendykes1202 that’s good news. (I think a lot of electric skeptics constantly slag off EVs in the hope that European governments will have a change of heart and go back to pushing all of the larger organisations into buying diesels again as they did in the late nineties!…🤣😂🤣😂
The interior does look nice, but personally, I miss the analogue gauges. I wish they had a spec for that. I doubt they do. What am I saying? I cant afford it at six figures anyway haha. It would also be cool if it had a manual option, I doubt that too. Other than that its pretty damn cool.
Not in the raptor, but the normal f150 you can get analog gauges.
I like the T bar shifter and actual buttons for the HVAC and radio
Speaking of smaller pickups I have a colarado and I love it. Just the perfect size for everything you need and nothing you don’t. Terribly inefficient V6 though gets less than 20 mpg but who cares when you have a company gas card! Other great thing about the colarados is how analog everything is.
I remember when pickups were made for ordinary people...
They are crybaby. Nobody wants to watch a video about them tho
You can still buy a stripped work truck if you just want the utility. Most truck drivers want tech and features which drives prices up.
@@Tool0GT92even stripped a truck is 40k
@DegeN.YNation put the old price in an inflation calculator
I mean this clearly isn't meant for ordinary people in the same way a Ferrari isn't.
The Maverick was everything I wanted. A well priced "truck" that got just as good or better MPG than anything else you can buy. Unfortunately Ford doesn't want to sell the XL model to consumers. Fleets get them. I waited over a year, nothing.
I saw 1 new Maverick truck here in Southern Indiana a couple weeks ago. Idk which submodel it was or anything because I was just surprised seeing the Maverick name on the tailgate, but to your point it's the only 1 I've ever seen out on the road driving.
Prood Maverick owner. This thing is the best vehicle money can buy
@@wondermaid6452 You got the one that can tow 2000lbs or 4000lbs?
@@Shorty15c4007 mine is 2000lbs. But overall if you plan on towing a lot then I still recommend a full size truck. This things is tiny, think about bronco sport with a bed
@@wondermaid6452 Yeah, I'm looking for a people mover that has the ability to tow my 2800lb car plus the trailer its gonna be on. But I don't want it to be uncomfortable with the truck suspension. I was looking at maybe a 2nd gen Honda Pilot. Its not super tall so it'll fit in my garage
Still driving my 1993 lightning no issues and still enjoying it. Last year with no airbags.
I bought a 2020 raptor about a year ago. It’s a long loan and I drive a lot of miles (about 25k a year) I plan on keeping it for years and racking up the miles. We’ll see how it keeps up. Truck is at 80k right now only a few little problems nothing to complain about.
4:10 Problem is Hoovie, a Maverick isnt a truck by the standards of those who bought the Raptors and full size pavement queens that are always shiny and rarely tow anything bigger than a single axle boat trailer 3-5x a year. Half my neighbors either have Rams, Silverados, and F150/F250s, their always clean and I might see them do minor truck stuff what a Dakota, Maverick or Tacoma could.
Never understood the desire for a huge truck if I didn’t absolutely need it on a regular basis. Such a waste of money, but at least it’s not my money
Right after you did your video, Messick's (a very large tractor dealer in PA and a popular YT channel) did a video on how they tried to use the Lightning as a delivery vehicle. That video confirmed what you said about it. It proved to be completely unusable for their purpose due to its poor range.
Great content Hoovie. I just supercharged my 2020 Lexus LX570. Now, That would make a great video.
Holy cow that sounds amazing!!
Hoovie said best sounding pick up of all time he ain’t heard da TRX
Nobody wants a Fiat with Dodge badging.
So I guess his old neighbor that had one doesn’t count? 🙄
Well he doesn't live in a neighborhood with an average credit score of 450.
To be fair, the ecoboost is actually a really reliable and tough engine. I see them all the time with 150-200k as long as people change their oil they last as long as any other engine with few issues. The 6.7 powerstroke is also a great engine, its now been out for 12 years and its major reliability issue was the upper oil pan and front cover gaskets, which has been revised. 6.7s easily last 300k.
Can confirm. My father abuses his truck and it’s still going strong.
They made some stupid decisions from the factory but the engines are solid otherwise. The 2.7l actually uses the same block material as the diesels (which is why it has no problem taking boost).
@@user136002 yeah they had issues with cam phasers, but there is an updated design now.
I was thinking the same thing. Good luck getting an ecoboost to 100k? They are everywhere! 5.4 3V and 6.0 PS? That was almost 20 years ago. Ford built 6.7 PS has been around awhile and later versions are pretty solid. Mis-informed or clueless?
Still no replacement for displacement. I dont care for a v6 anything. The NA v8 are way more reliable long term.
as much as i really like the raptor, I am also extremely happy with my find of a 2016 f-150 king ranch, single cab, shortbox, 5.0, 4x4. absolute gem of a truck that a family friend(owner of one of my local ford dealerships) and ordered custom for himself, i bought it last year with only 62k k's on it and for an absolutely wild deal. I can't wait to do some more fun things than an exhaust and tune
I was one of the first Ford Technicians to change a bad EBB electronic brake booster. It was an absolute nightmare, ONLY because of the programming. Changing it physically was easy. The programming took several hours. After performing several of them back in 2021 I got really good at it. But, it still took a ridiculous amount of time to do.
As cool as this truck is but at $125-150k the TRX seems like the one to get for most people. Sounds just as good if not better and it’s got a much more common and tested hellcat V8 for $70-80k.
Wasn't the trx like 110k?
The trx loses a lot of "truck" qualities while the Raptor retains ita payload and towing capacity
Yeah but its a Dodge.
@@j.d.saccociates3313 MSRP was $80-85k new. That’s also not true the towing capacity and payload of the raptor r and trx are very similar.
@@twiggss4344 Well it’s a RAM now but, close enough.
Several drawbacks for me with the TRX was the full time 4WD, the lack of aftermarket options, and the fact the you can’t tune the Hellcat engine to run on 87 octane. We take our Raptor places where your tank can get stretched thin, and in Mexico you never know what type of quality fuel you are getting. It’s a great truck for sure, but the for me the V6 Raptor with extra money in my bank account was the better option.
I just checked the ford website. Here in Canada the base price dropped from $80,000 CDN to $69,000 cdn.
They start at 73k usd in Finland
Shocked they’re not illegal in Canada 😂
They reduced the MSRP but removed the factory rebate in Canada, so out the door price has not shifted. Still no stock and long waits.
Like the ‘72 pickup! A 1972 Ford Maverick tho, is a far different animal than the Maverick Ford offers today.
2004 Super Duty F350 King Ranch FX4 6.0 with 253,000 miles. Pulled 11,000 lbs. through The Flint Hills in 85 ambient temperature at 75 MPH with oil temp at 192 and coolant temp at 192... Great truck! The 6.0 will take care of you if you take care of it.
I wish they'd make a Maverick Raptor. I love my Maverick, but it would be insane to see it do 3.5 seconds 0 to 60.
They could give it the 2.3 and AWD from the focus RS. It would be a wicked mini truck
@@georgelin8498 The 2.3 got so excited that it blew its headgasket.
Oops, there it goes again.
@@georgelin8498 yeah my thoughts exactly
I never think I’ll see the day of a 6 digit truck price 😮
I have a 3.5 Ecoboost and i work on them alot being a mechanic. They are dependable and have good power. Love turbo noises. They definitely aren't a 5.3 vortec. Mostly turbos and coolant lines and pumps but haven't seen alot of complete failures like the 5.4 Triton. All internal combustion engines will have issues some more than others.
I have 140,000+ on my 5.0 2013 F150 Crew Cab Lariat and still love the truck. So far the only thing that stopped working is the stupid rear sliding window switch that makes the the rear de ice not work anymore. All I have added to the truck is a K&N cold air intake which did make it sound better and added a little more OOMPH taking off at stop signs along with 2 to 3 more miles per gallon.
It looks good. Think it way too expensive for me.
The fact that Hoovie and Wizard are talking about how easy it is to work on but the fender is taller than Daniel-san. If you need a special ladder or scaffolding to change the valve cover gaskets, its too fucking big.
I think the best way to do that would be to put the truck up on the lift, remove the wheels and lower it all the way down to where the lowest point is only 2 inches above the ground. That's the best way I could imagine working on it as long as you're working on the top side of the engine bay. Do that first then put the wheels back on and then you can work on the bottom side or vice versa.
The margins on this must be incredible.
Now THATS a gorgeous truck!
Good luck, Hoovie! 🙂
Stunning truck. Think a decal delete from the backend would finish it off nicely. 🤩
Spot on about Ford and the Maverick. They could had sold so many of those trucks, kept people working and had the Ford name everywhere. Not to worry, others will not miss just the opportunity.
My 2003 Chevrolet Silverado 2500HD has well over 300K miles and still runs great and looks great. I've never had an issue with the engine or transmission.
While i love the tech in trucks i feel they are a far departure from the original point of a truck. I miss the OBS ford and chevy the old square bodies. Enough creature comforts to make you comfortable but still rugged enough and cheap enough that you dont feel ashamed to use them for farm work or construction work
Best sounding pickup, barely a picknup, but.. SRT10 Dodge. With a 6 speed.... 😢
Yes, Wonderful kindergarten sound. Vroom Vroom VROOOOOMMMM! 🤣🤣😂😂🤣🤣😂😂
@@wolfgangpreier9160That's really your best attempt at a comparison?
Raptor R for the win...
@@flurpoid Yes, That was my Kindergarten sound when i wanted to become big and mighty. Smelling and sounding obnoxiously all around and hope to drive the elders on the next palm tree. (Thats a german expression which you may not know of).
Now i know what the future brings and only laugh about those Kindergarten days.
Vroom Vroom VROOOOOOOMMM!!!
@@zephead843 What a poser. Even my puny little Model Y is faster and can handle more.
WOW...did you upgrade sound recording recently?!?! This is amazing spatial sound quality with headset on.
Love the dichotomy 13:02 EV's are simple by Hoovie to that Lightning EV was so complicated by Wizard @14:32 - lol.
I like the Wizards gangsters truck with the duramax.!
You don't need all that computer garbage and electronics in a truck.
With the engine so far back in the engine bay, and the front wheels quite a bit forward, does it make this a mid-engine truck?
I think they're all built that way.
Literally watching this video at the DFW Airport, start walking to my gate, and there is hoovie
I really love the R I have a 22 3.5 Iconic Sliver Raptor and love it. Really want to move up to and R but the ADM are just stupid high form one which is disappointing being I have had 3 Raptors now. Great review!
Essentially $150K toy. Nothing wrong with toys but I could certainly find something more interesting for that money. And using this for towing? I'd love to see the range and price/mile at ~7mpg
these are niche trucks for certain customers, but it's just a showcase for their other lines of trucks in their lineup that are less expensive and sell great...
I'm excited for the post-divorce early mid life crisis unfolding before our eyes.
There's a channel called The Fast Lane Truck that has done some videos on the RaptorR's towing.
I have a 2017 and it’ll tow 14000 lbs. not sure about the new one
Good thing hoovie’s forte is reviewing towing capacity of trucks.
When I bought my last truck I checked out the raptor. I liked it but I got the Tundra with the 5.7 v8 and I’m glad I made that choice. It always over-delivered on anything I asked it to do.
I can't imagine it over delivered on fuel economy!
@@j.d.saccociates3313 No, but neither does this.
Both brilliant trucks. We don’t have these in the U.K. (mainly because they won’t fit down our little country lanes). But they sure are beautiful! However they would cost at least a thousand pounds per month in gas..
I have an 06 F150 with that time bomb 5.4 😂 120000 miles and went with me from ND to Washington State, to Louisiana, and now to Missouri. ❤
Dang you got a 72 ford that's awesome. We have 2 one fully restored the other a old plow truck with 62k miles. Those fe engine sound great straight piped. I recommend you straight pip it
it's like in Mad Max, the last of the V8 ! awesome pickup truck, very capable offroad !
Listening to anyone when it comes to vehicles, it'd be Hoovie. He covers all vehicles!
Let’s be honest he doesn’t know shit about trucks. Especially diesels
hey man good for you for telling it !!!
Great video!
Ford Raptors are just so hot right now
I’m so glad they added the v8 back to the raptor the ecoboost raptor was cool and all but the few I drove it just felt weird
Thank You Dodge
@@leeward6762 sad to see trx going away
If they're going to do a 6 cylinder in a truck use the 300 heritage and make it sound like a 2jz and do an i6. The harmonics of a V6 will never be good.
I cant inagine having a pickup truck without a v8 in it let alone a raptor. If you go for an ecobbost especially in this or a mustang you need to question your manhood lol
@redstang70 You're on glue, lots of classic trucks had 6 cylinders in them. People wax on about the ford 300
I travel to the States a lot for my job and frequently drive upwards of 1,500 miles visiting my customers and always opt for a V6 or V8 truck or SUV rental. Here in GB I would happily drive a big truck but thats where the biggest difference lies. If American drivers had to pay the crazy prices and taxes we do on vehicles and fuel, these amazing trucks and their huge engines would die out. In the last year we have been paying as much as $8.64 per gallon equivalent for petrol and higher for diesel, and at the moment it is sitting around $6.50 for unleaded.
We are being forced down the EV route, despite the disgusting price and inefficiencies of EVs and the majority of car users cannot afford them and most do not want them.
Keep your fuel low and keep your trucks America, I for one salute you!
NGL the gangster truck is dope and with that 6.6 in its going to be a little monster.
The 1972 pickup: I'd take every day and any day over the raptor. I could literally rebuild that truck from the ground up with what I learned in highschool shop class.
Exactly and can keep it running forever.
Okay boomer
Yeah but if you get hit at speed, you die. New vehicles break easier because half of the car is just crumple zones. Engine and transmission failures are “more common” due to higher weight and higher horsepower numbers being pushed out of smaller and smaller engines. There’s also the survivor fallacy of the vehicles that have lasted. I love classic cars, but man they just aren’t worth it unless you can afford keeping a car you don’t use sitting around.
A 30 year old vehicle with relatively low miles is an excellent daily driver. I have a '93 Suburban with 320k miles on the original engine. Still gets 14-18 mpg, even loaded, though not when towing (11 mpg). The newer vehicles I've owned are always nickel and dimeing me starting at around 85-100k. I didn't have those issues with the '93 until I was well past 220k
@@cincinnati4391it’s not about being a classic. It’s about being able to work on things yourself with a handful of tools and cheap and without a computer.
That Raptor R sounds great but I still would take either an older 6.2 or an eco boost powered one. The raptors in general great little trucks. The new lightning is fine if you know what you are getting. An expensive toy that is not a truck and you can’t use for more than commuting or running to the store a few miles away.
The Eco-Boosts main issue is that Ford cheeped out on some parts. The water pump likes to eat itself, the timing chain guides are cheap, and the turbos like to let go at 80k miles unless you are vigilant about your 5k mile oil changes and don't let it get overheated.
It could be worse, it could be the same-ish engine in the Taurus SHO, with its stupid AWD Power Transfer Unit that likes to explode because its 'lifetime gear fluid' in a clutched system, and has no drain plug...
@@jaymorrison2419 perhaps. My eco boost has been great in my expedition el. Very very happy with it.
Cleetus beats the shit out of his, I see no problems with it accomplishing what it set out to.
It’s the cam phasers and practically the entire timing system that shits the bed because of the long oil change intervals that most people go with. Oh and the 10 speed is a POS.
Randy from AutoAuctionRebuilds just bought a high mileage Raptor and it runs great
A friend of mine has the PowerBoost F150 and I think that's the way to go.
In Europe, in the Netherlands, most vehicles are equipped with a 3.5L ECOBOOST engine. I've come across a Ford Raptor, the RAPTOR R (5.2 PREDATOR), priced at €195,000 excluding VAT. This is for a 2023 model with just 100 kilometers on the odometer.
Well cleetus has had his Raptor R for about a year now and drives it like he stole it and seemingly no problems so they must be good if he can't break it 😂
And according to Cleetus its his favorite vehicle of all time. The fact he hasn't been able to break it yet says something about its durability.
I'm on my second 3.5 F150 and my cousin who owned a 5.0 for 100k have never had issues with cam phasers. We both change the oil every 5k miles. With a family member that owns a Subaru, I talked to some local techs and they said to not go over the 5k oil change intervals or it messes up the cam phasers on their vehicles. It's not like its just Fords that have that issue.
Driving a V8 Raptor in west Texas is the most fun I’ve ever had in a car or truck and it’s not even close.
I'd be curious to know what the sight-lines are like on that thing because between the height and the design, that thing looks like it has blindspots the size of Kansas.
You could probably drive over a midsize car and not even notice
So many people hate on the raptor r for good or bad reasons but like it or not this truck is one of a kind and will be worth a lot of money forever. The only thing keeping me away is the price tag. Also the 2023 is one year only with the arguably better looking body
My 06 had the 5.4, thankfully a Ram 1500 rear ended me and totalled it before I had to deal with the stuck spark plugs(97k miles). Just had to drop off my 13(5.0) for transmission issues(49k miles).
LOL 6.6l duramax in a half ton short bed.
I've had Not only the 2nd worst modern Diesel engine. Compared to the 6.0 and 6.4 Ford. But it was a 1/2 ton. The Ram Ecodiesel. A main bearing spinning recall laden mill. But i did regular maintenance on time. Didn't drive it like i was running from the Cops constantly. And put 237k on that truck. And all of the electronics where spot on.
"I didn't buy it..."
So...commercial?
There's a difference between what people are "Supposed to want" and what people "actually want". Not too many people are chomping at the bit to have an electric pickup truck (There are plenty to be sure, but still only a small percentage). Most people want a truck that is affordable with good power and economy and if it has that nice V8 sound and power curve, well that is just icing on the cake.
Did you just call a raptor affordable and something with good economy? 😂
Love the wide range of variety the Wizard works on
I've never heard anyone say the ford "do da doo" chime described as "i'm a ford"... that is going to stick in my head forever with my current truck 😂