Who can play an elf? LARP's thorny issue

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  • čas přidán 9. 05. 2018
  • Who should be allowed in a LARP to play what sort of character? Need there be restrictions? What are the minimum costume standards?
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    LARP = Live Action Role Play (dressing up and playing fictional characters in improvised dramas).
    Immediately after the Fairweather Manor game had finished, I sat down in my room for a few minutes with Raquel to discuss an issue that comes up a lot in LARP. Personally, I would say that I should not play a dwarf in a LARP, because it will make it so difficult for all the other players looking up at me to imagine that they are looking down. Dwarves should not loom. On the other hand, insisting that only blond[e]s can play elves strikes me as unnecessarily restrictive.
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Komentáře • 1,3K

  • @pumbar
    @pumbar Před 6 lety +1436

    I was told I couldn't play a human.

    • @DrMakak
      @DrMakak Před 6 lety +65

      Well you're a heart, you lack a pretty big bunch of accessories to look like a human

    • @SonsOfLorgar
      @SonsOfLorgar Před 6 lety +12

      English Heart you probably could play an oak treeman though ;)

    • @TheLuigiBrother77
      @TheLuigiBrother77 Před 6 lety +31

      well of course you look nothing like a human duh humans arent square or have red on them duh

    • @814790
      @814790 Před 6 lety +38

      An englishman and a human? Why I've never heard such a preposterous comment.

    • @rickgraham8701
      @rickgraham8701 Před 6 lety +47

      I've been pretending to be human for 60 years, what is it you need help with?

  • @ChrisGeden
    @ChrisGeden Před 6 lety +930

    You can be a dwarf. Just stand really far away.

  • @thecomfyknight5594
    @thecomfyknight5594 Před 6 lety +203

    I will never get tired of the little Lego fella at the end

    • @clutchingdaggerz359
      @clutchingdaggerz359 Před 6 lety +17

      LINDYBEIGE !!!!!!!!!!!!

    • @Tester-sh1mn
      @Tester-sh1mn Před 3 lety +1

      I like it and hate it at the same time, if hes got multiple end slides the lego guy blocks a bit sometimes, and also i dont know what he says sometimes, is it Lindybeige! or Limbybay!?

    • @dechezhaast
      @dechezhaast Před 2 lety

      @@Tester-sh1mn “LINDYBEIGE!!!”

  • @Dragoon876
    @Dragoon876 Před 6 lety +17

    I know a guy (about 6' tall and over 200lbs) who played a dwarf by making latex barrels to go around his shins that looked like he was a dwarf standing on stilts. It was fucking amazing and hilarious.

  • @PaulusBruna
    @PaulusBruna Před 6 lety +465

    Now I cannot unsee Lindybeige as dwarf, it needs to happen

  • @fishfingers4548
    @fishfingers4548 Před 6 lety +410

    Playing a centaur in LARP isn't difficult, just grab yourself some coconuts :)

    • @arnthedragonborn8306
      @arnthedragonborn8306 Před 6 lety +34

      Oh lord such an underrated comment referencing Monty Python you have my upvote dear sir!

    • @mikkelboisen5543
      @mikkelboisen5543 Před 6 lety +8

      I'm ashamed to admit that I had to read this comment before I got the reference

    • @AnakinSkyobiliviator
      @AnakinSkyobiliviator Před 6 lety +17

      Why grab it yourself when you could get your very own Patsy?

    • @muhu_8847
      @muhu_8847 Před 6 lety +3

      haha. well done.

    • @Allan_aka_RocKITEman
      @Allan_aka_RocKITEman Před 5 lety +9

      "African or European swallow?"
      😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁

  • @MaartenvanRossemLezingen
    @MaartenvanRossemLezingen Před 6 lety +843

    So the same people that can imagine a tennis ball as a magic fire ball can't imagine a tall guy as a dwarf.

    • @skog4437
      @skog4437 Před 6 lety +68

      Carrot Ironfoundersson is a useful example

    • @McFrager
      @McFrager Před 6 lety +55

      "My grandfather was an dirty knife ear, it's not my fault guys."

    • @chronixchaos7081
      @chronixchaos7081 Před 6 lety +45

      Everyone knows that the only defence against fire balls is a tennis racket.

    • @thekuan7002
      @thekuan7002 Před 6 lety +10

      What about the dwarf in infinity wars

    • @bmoore4313
      @bmoore4313 Před 6 lety +42

      Imagine? You don't dip your tennis balls in alcohol and actually light them up?

  • @semperludens9241
    @semperludens9241 Před 6 lety +75

    "At least make an effort." is my catchphrase

    • @simmerocky2393
      @simmerocky2393 Před 6 lety +2

      Yea, some Austrian dude in the 1920's heard that a lot...he went to Germany. (please don't take my comment seriously)

  • @Chaosproscho
    @Chaosproscho Před 6 lety +314

    Lindy before this video "Hey do you want to come up to my room I want to film a video, just the two of us."
    She probably didn't expect this to come out of it.

    • @wilsonthewarrior
      @wilsonthewarrior Před 6 lety +34

      waflmlk Lindy must get a lot of ass at these things haha

    • @booradley6832
      @booradley6832 Před 5 lety +14

      TBH she does look like she wants it.

    • @koryfredrick1164
      @koryfredrick1164 Před 5 lety +42

      jesus christ guys

    • @gnome3715
      @gnome3715 Před 4 lety +3

      fuck off

    • @Nosmo90
      @Nosmo90 Před 3 lety

      I always thought on previous viewings that they were in a dining room. Guess I mistook the side table and the headboard for chairs! xB

  • @tyrgoossens
    @tyrgoossens Před 6 lety +146

    Not going to lie: my first thought was "why is he interviewing princess Jasmine ?"

    • @carbon1255
      @carbon1255 Před 6 lety +8

      My thoughts were similar, though the word "casting" was somehow more transfixed in my mind.

    • @desktorp
      @desktorp Před 6 lety +7

      a whole new world
      a new fantastic point of view

  • @alihelmy
    @alihelmy Před 6 lety +23

    I'm 5'7" scottish guy... i was BORN to play a dwarf :D

    • @LilithLorenz
      @LilithLorenz Před 3 lety +2

      i may be a girl and 2 years late but i got you beat im 4'11 hahah

    • @Nevma
      @Nevma Před rokem

      The internet is a weird place… being able to see conversations from years ago is so strange lol

  • @PieterBreda
    @PieterBreda Před 6 lety +197

    You couldn't. It is a well known and established fact that elves never wear beige.

    • @lindybeige
      @lindybeige  Před 6 lety +125

      And this is proof of why they should never be given the vote.

    • @Lucy-wi4ny
      @Lucy-wi4ny Před 6 lety +4

      Lindybeige why not start a fashion line? 😉

    • @PieterBreda
      @PieterBreda Před 6 lety +8

      Beige dressed elves. The stuff of nightmares.

    • @Altrantis
      @Altrantis Před 6 lety

      Well, the altmer do. Goes with their skin color. Also, i.ebayimg.com/images/g/1xwAAOSwY5Ra4RRz/s-l300.jpg

    • @TiberiusWallace
      @TiberiusWallace Před 5 lety +1

      @Repeat After Me: but one of those bastard elves that have five ribbons instead of four on their harps?

  • @MartilloWorkshop
    @MartilloWorkshop Před 6 lety +526

    The LARP I organize throws away stereotype rules with ingame lore. Some dwarves are tall. No one is certain why, but some believe some of them are related to trolls. The Dwarven scholars dismiss this notion completely. They believe dwarves lost their height when they moved into the mountains, and regain their height after a few generations outside of the mountains.
    Not only does that allow everyone to play dwarves, it creates a "scholarly" argument to engage in. Dwarves still have to wear beards though. The women too.

    • @flipflierefluiter5665
      @flipflierefluiter5665 Před 6 lety +9

      bearded dwarf women, are you joking?

    • @bashpr0mpt719
      @bashpr0mpt719 Před 6 lety +25

      That's the stupidest fantastically daft shit I've read since Area X.

    • @thomaster8870
      @thomaster8870 Před 6 lety +92

      Only child slaves are allowed to larp dwarves over here. We're currently importing a new batch from India.

    • @theespatier4456
      @theespatier4456 Před 6 lety +6

      Martillo Workshop Creativity wins when everyone write the rules!

    • @DaC10101
      @DaC10101 Před 6 lety +22

      Wear beards? Stop appropriating beard culture!!

  • @Transgender-ProphetMohammed
    @Transgender-ProphetMohammed Před 6 lety +104

    Have you heard of the high elves?

    • @theespatier4456
      @theespatier4456 Před 6 lety +20

      Der Transgender-Prophet Mohammed STOP! YOU VIOLATED THE LAW! PAY THE COURT A FINE OR SERVE YOUR SENTENCE, YOUR STOLEN GOODS ARE NOW FORFEIT.

    • @ashleychaplin5855
      @ashleychaplin5855 Před 6 lety +4

      did you hear?
      high elves have been legalised in the US now

    • @TheOldBearTime
      @TheOldBearTime Před 6 lety +1

      What do you want? You dirty breton trash!

    • @Altrantis
      @Altrantis Před 6 lety

      Mayonnaise czcams.com/video/qN80_7rNmcE/video.html

    • @Liquidsback
      @Liquidsback Před 6 lety +1

      Grr grrrr huugghh

  • @jimbob3332
    @jimbob3332 Před 6 lety +163

    I think elf roles should be given to the many talented elves out there and not be played by humans in 'elfface'.

  • @sergiobosque7416
    @sergiobosque7416 Před 6 lety +207

    Get yourself a girl who looks at you like Raquel looks at Lloyd

    • @ScienceDiscoverer
      @ScienceDiscoverer Před 6 lety +18

      IDK how people can look each other in the EYES! It's impossible for me...

    • @socialist-strong
      @socialist-strong Před 6 lety +7

      KKK Grand Dragon Adam Racewarski my main gun has a -30 degree incline potential ;)

    • @htf5555
      @htf5555 Před 6 lety +1

      ScienceDiscoverer I also have this problem. It seems involuntary but theres a reason that perhaps i am not willing to admit not even to myself.

    • @James-pt7yh
      @James-pt7yh Před 6 lety +8

      TFW Lloyd definitely looked at the comment but like they reply... wahahhaa

    • @jimsy5530
      @jimsy5530 Před 6 lety

      Only fires blanks though....

  • @NeonSprawl
    @NeonSprawl Před 6 lety +18

    When I was 16, I became the Primogen of Clan Ventrue in a Vampire the Masquerade LARP in my city, and held that position for a few years after. The game typically had anywhere between two to four dozen active players and operated weekly. As a result, there was often a fairly steady stream of either new players or characters joining the Clan, so I witnessed quite a range. Now, Ventrue is supposed to be a Clan of aristocrats, so I showed up to every game wearing a suit and tie, and tried to gussy up a bit more than I normally did before game started. Others though would put in no effort, showing up to game in cargo shorts and a graphic t-shirt and would then put on a tagged sticker saying "Is Wearing A Suit". People didn't need to go to the nines, even just having a button up shirt and slacks would be great, but I heard nearly every excuse in the book about why they couldn't do something like that. It was infuriating. As a result though, people were able to take an actual teenager far more seriously in the LARP over others in their 30's who had several times over my own experience. Additional praise was often heaped on those who did additional make up effects as well.
    tldr: Even a little bit of costuming and effort goes a long way in a LARP and is often appreciated.

  • @rasnac
    @rasnac Před 6 lety +47

    If realism was the primal issue in LARP, only people with pointy ears would be able to play elves and only people who shoot fireballs from their fingers would be able play spellcasters.

  • @nintendomite
    @nintendomite Před 6 lety +268

    people are seriously forgetting dark elves...?

  • @ghostoftanelorn9928
    @ghostoftanelorn9928 Před 6 lety +49

    I think this lady can be an Elf, there are countless variations of Elves in fantasy media. You got Wild Elves, Sand elves, Jungle Elves, House Elves- wait does that last one count?

    • @captaingeneral2275
      @captaingeneral2275 Před 6 lety +2

      I do believe sir knight, that a house elf is known as a borrower, I haven't a damned clue what they are, only that they steal food and other essentials, quite odd if you ask me.

    • @Wingedshadowwolf
      @Wingedshadowwolf Před 6 lety +2

      Chosen Undead
      Or a Brownie. The lore says to give them food and they will do chores around the house. Leave the food in a bowl with a utensil by the fireplace so they know it's for them.

    • @captaingeneral2275
      @captaingeneral2275 Před 6 lety

      surely you jest! it couldn't possibly be that easy. How strange, I've never encountered such a creature, are you certain?

    • @matthewmuir8884
      @matthewmuir8884 Před 6 lety +3

      Wingedshadowwolf Yeah. Funny enough, Brownies are a type of fairy (not the butterfly-winged kind; that was invented by the Victorian English) from Celtic (specifically Scottish) Mythology, whereas elves originate from Norse Mythology.
      Whoever wrote the story of the elves and the shoemaker (and was thus the inspiration for both Santa Claus' elves, and House Elves in Harry Potter) was writing about Brownies, but called them elves for reasons I do not know.

    • @teutonalex
      @teutonalex Před 6 lety

      You forgot the common garden elf found in German gardens

  • @HouseholdDog
    @HouseholdDog Před 6 lety +22

    Check your lizard man privilege.

  • @chabis
    @chabis Před 6 lety +43

    Margareth Rutherford made a great Miss Marple without looking anything like the character described in the books. Same with Peter Ustinov as Hercule Poirot. For me that's not really a problem. Sometimes it even adds up to the fun. You probably know, the "dwarf" Ltd. Carrot in the town guard of Ankh Morpork.

    • @rainydaylady6596
      @rainydaylady6596 Před 6 lety +5

      Peter Guhl Perfect examples! Although I don't think anyone will ever take the place of Jeremy Brett as Sherlock Holmes, but I'm open to giving other actors a try. I never thought of Rincewind as being old, but they seem to make him that way in the movies.

    • @Immopimmo
      @Immopimmo Před 6 lety +11

      +Darcy Kahler Lindybeige could play a convincing Rincewind. All he needs is a red robe and a pointy hat with the letters WIZZARD on it. :D

    • @chabis
      @chabis Před 6 lety +2

      Darcy Kahler I don't remember how detailed Holmes' physical appearence is described in the books. Poirot's case is quite extreme, I guess. But even there it did not spoil the fun.

    • @frankberry6220
      @frankberry6220 Před 6 lety +2

      Margaret Rutherford was born to play Paddington Bear's, Aunt Lucy.

    • @chabis
      @chabis Před 6 lety +4

      The Moon OK, I agree that not every LARPer is an Ustinov :-D At the other hand LARP isn't the same as movie acting so it does balance itself out somehow.

  • @SoaringSuccubus
    @SoaringSuccubus Před 6 lety +1

    Considering that this was probably an impromptu interview, it's super smooth and to the point and yet not too serious nor laconic. Great people, these two.

  • @chronixchaos7081
    @chronixchaos7081 Před 6 lety +1

    Lindybeige zoning out when the conversation turned to shopping for dresses had me grinning.

  • @kmarchery
    @kmarchery Před 6 lety +11

    dear lindy
    please do play a dwarf .
    just play a dwarf with a gland problem ,
    hence the giant thing .
    or just get adopted .
    cheers

    • @szylaj
      @szylaj Před 3 lety +1

      "Arent dwarfs suposed to be, you know, short?"
      "Oh thats just stereotype."

  • @frankberry6220
    @frankberry6220 Před 6 lety +15

    When it comes to role-playing, my favourite was the performance by Peter Ustinov, who during his War service, had to play a German paratrooper in an exercise against a unit of the Home Guard. After he was captured, he spoke only in German and the Officer in charge of the Home Guard unit conducting the 'interrogation' accused him of cheating.

    • @Lilitha11
      @Lilitha11 Před 6 lety +2

      If the interrogator is supposed to know German it would be cheating. If not, then that is kind of funny hehe.

    • @frankberry6220
      @frankberry6220 Před 6 lety +9

      The full story is even funnier. When Ustinov was told he had to get close enough to the Home Guard CO, he saw that the CO had got his men to block off the street he was in. Ustinov simply worked his way along the parallel houses in the next street by knocking on doors and saying: "Army manoeuvres, may I come through your house?" The occupants were happy to assist, and he ended up putting his gun against the officer before saying "Bang!" The entire exercise must have looked like an episode from 'Dad's Army.

  • @90vladhumperdink
    @90vladhumperdink Před 6 lety +2

    With the Larp I attend, there is a really tall guy who plays a dwarf. He has an absolutely magnificent beard and having either a beard or a fake one qualifies for the costume part to play a dwarf. It's a very open ended system

  • @AnotherDuck
    @AnotherDuck Před 6 lety +2

    I think what you can convincingly roleplay as depends mostly on the effort relative to how different you look from your role and the effort of everyone else. In a more laidback event, you can get away with less effort, but if everyone else puts in a lot of effort, you're probably going to have to do that as well to not stick out like a sore thumb. It's sort of like following the dress code at any other event. If you put in a lot of effort, people are more likely to recognise that and accept that you may not have the physique that fit the role. It's more about being convincing than looking like the picture book shows.

  • @oshun459
    @oshun459 Před 6 lety +5

    My woodland culture is NOT your LARP dress

  • @RomeoWhiskey692
    @RomeoWhiskey692 Před 6 lety +3

    Well , when I first saw this pretty young lady in the thumbnail , I immediately thought , “ Now THERE is someone perfectly suited to play an Elf ! “
    As soon as I saw her move and speak , I was convinced of it .
    We may have some stylistic differences....
    I think she trends more to Anime , and I see her more in the vein of Tolkien ...
    An ethereal beauty ...but we would have to create a backstory for that Impish sense of humor .
    I know I would be quite taken with her as an Elf noblewoman, brave and true .

  • @overestimatedforesight
    @overestimatedforesight Před 6 lety +2

    Coming from a more tabletop rpg setting, I feel that the enormous imagination and suspension of disbelief requirements for ANY role-playing far outstrips that which is necessary for someone to play someone physically different from themselves. It's wonderful that people can and want to do extra to make themselves more like their character, but making it a requirement becomes gatekeeping. I wouldn't personally set requirements.

  • @MarkWladika
    @MarkWladika Před 6 lety +5

    Some of the LOTR movies extras have casting directors talking about who can be an elf, dwarf or ork. It's their job to treat people as objects, so all their choices make sense. Alas that casting is what most people think of when defining those characters.

  • @giovannipezzin5707
    @giovannipezzin5707 Před 3 lety +3

    If men can larp women irl, I don't see why that lady can't be an elf

  • @kwood8628
    @kwood8628 Před 6 lety +6

    Yeah I think it's 2/3 your responsibility to show you're that person and 1/3 someone has to be open to see it

  • @NevetsTSmith
    @NevetsTSmith Před 6 lety

    Some people have an entire folder on their computer dedicated to dusky elves.

  • @thanhool
    @thanhool Před 6 lety

    great and insightful video as always my main man

  • @sbeckett91
    @sbeckett91 Před 6 lety +88

    The LARP demographic in my area is made up almost exclusively of overweight Caucasian people wearing eyeglasses. I imagine one would have to suspend one’s disbelief pretty hard unless the game was set in Hobbiton.

    • @Virolaxion
      @Virolaxion Před 6 lety +10

      Shawn B that's an insult to Hobbits

    • @strangeyoungman
      @strangeyoungman Před 5 lety +1

      Hey! I have 20/20 vision!
      The rest is true.

  • @heavenlyturnip
    @heavenlyturnip Před 6 lety +33

    smooth lindy... very smooth ;)

    • @wenbocao2110
      @wenbocao2110 Před 6 lety +14

      his game is strong

    • @sadvenom7826
      @sadvenom7826 Před 5 lety +1

      He made a whole documentary "built for the stone age", witch explains his game.

  • @paulgibson8468
    @paulgibson8468 Před 5 lety +1

    I think it's all about how the player immerses themselves in the character but an element of practical honesty is needed, for example I'm 5'2 and stocky so I wouldnt play an elf but would play a half elf. The same applies the class and abilities, if I was innately clumsy and of larger build I wouldn't play a thief, scout.... Its all about making the game adventure as believable as possible

  • @wtr2235
    @wtr2235 Před 6 lety +1

    "If you say, you are and nobody says you aren't, you are it!"

  • @wesmatron
    @wesmatron Před 6 lety +7

    I went to FOF/Nothing Ventured for years. They got around this by introducing chaos mutations. I'm not far off 6 feet tall but was able to play a Black Dwarf as they are mutated dwarf. I appreciated your point though... nothing worse looking than a fat elf. You have the right build and look for an elf... but elves with beards? No. That lady is perfect for an elf. Graceful, beautiful, intelligent. I don't recall reading anywhere about elves being white. Aren't woodelves usually green?

  • @Ragiman
    @Ragiman Před 5 lety +3

    Sir, I just discovered this channel today and must inform you that you look like a mixture between Ser Davos and Aragorn

  • @ghosturiel
    @ghosturiel Před 6 lety +2

    "Sir, are you Classified as Human?" "Uh, Negative. I am a Meat Popsicle."

  • @Redbeardblondie
    @Redbeardblondie Před 6 lety

    This has made it onto my favorites list. Love it.

  • @TheHarryChanne1
    @TheHarryChanne1 Před 6 lety +279

    This is annoying in that she seems lovely and now I'll feel guilty when I poke fun at LARPers.

    • @FreeOfFantasy
      @FreeOfFantasy Před 6 lety +48

      making fun of nice people is ok if it's a nice kind of fun and you are ok with being made fun of in return.

    • @Cirac1
      @Cirac1 Před 6 lety +23

      Give it a go! A bunch of people getting drunk and whacking each other with blunted swords is a right laugh! My friend shattered his front teeth is an aggressive quaffing accident during a larp.

    • @der_sebbl
      @der_sebbl Před 6 lety +6

      @Cirac1
      In LARP you DON'T use blunt weapons, NEVER.
      So where's the connection between drunk idiots whacking around with weapons and LARP.
      (Plus: No good larper fights when he drunk alcohol)

    • @Cirac1
      @Cirac1 Před 6 lety +9

      der sebbl weird, because we do. I guess it ain't "Never". And a larper fights drunk if their character fights drunk, which is most of the folk I larp with.

    • @der_sebbl
      @der_sebbl Před 6 lety +8

      Who could be so fucking stupid to use real weapons while larping? And who would be so stupid to fight drunk? Both things are absolute no gos if you care the slightest about safety

  • @RetiredRhetoricalWarhorse

    Effort. That's the point with SO many things you see on the internet and in daily life. Some people go "Ah what the hell, it'll do" in cosplay, make-up, their every day wardrobe etc. And others go that extra mile to achieve something. They may or may not have achieved it... it hardly matters, if you see effort, your opinion automatically rises and you will easily overlook that which is not quite there yet.
    Simply put, plastic halloween costume < handmade costume out of polyester < off the rack Leonardo Carbone stuff < handmade stuff using proper linen. Of course there are many things in between and it will matter a bit how machine made everything looks but except for the handmade polyester thing, the work you put into the outfit will help immersion and thus acceptance.
    And even if you're using polyester, it might only affect the nitpicks among us :D

  • @Hellberch1
    @Hellberch1 Před 5 lety +1

    As a long term UK larper I have no issues with anyone trying to be what ever they want in any system
    I have met Tall Dwarves, I've met some REALLY Short Elves and have at once committed the cardinal since of having played a Drow (Complete with the full Black Make up & White Wig)
    Its a Roleplay so all I can say is "Go With It"
    And on a side note: To both of you guys EXCELLENT Kit

  • @SgtKOnyx
    @SgtKOnyx Před 6 lety

    Yes I did miss your main Fairweather Manor video

  • @meatystew5088
    @meatystew5088 Před 6 lety +209

    No one should be playing elves
    Only good Knife Ear is a Dead one

    • @MJFAN666
      @MJFAN666 Před 6 lety +14

      Meaty Stew spoken like a true trash tier dwarf

    • @germanvisitor2
      @germanvisitor2 Před 6 lety +26

      “Elves are wonderful. They provoke wonder.
      Elves are marvellous. They cause marvels.
      Elves are fantastic. They create fantasies.
      Elves are glamorous. They project glamour.
      Elves are enchanting. They weave enchantment.
      Elves are terrific. They beget terror.
      The thing about words is that meanings can twist just like a snake, and if you want to find snakes look for them behind words that have changed their meaning.
      No one ever said elves are nice.
      Elves are bad.”
      - Lords and Ladies

    • @recklessroges
      @recklessroges Před 6 lety +6

      Being racist is not very nice, you [intelligence slur] [race slur] [ironic accusation of unkindness ].

    • @aquaticzombie4369
      @aquaticzombie4369 Před 6 lety +2

      terry pratchett

    • @meatystew5088
      @meatystew5088 Před 6 lety +6

      Karan Trivedi Aye and what of it Smoothchin?
      You knife ears are all the same, all mouth and no Axe
      Ruddy Wozzock

  • @MooseZybort
    @MooseZybort Před 6 lety +6

    I tried LARPing once. It wasn't for me. Don't get me wrong I enjoyed watching everything that was going on around me; I just can't act for toffee (good job I don't really like toffee).

  • @MoeAji
    @MoeAji Před 6 lety

    I'm so relieved you got that fluff out of the lens.

  • @rougemoons6150
    @rougemoons6150 Před 6 lety +1

    The Gary Oldman in you needed to wake up with "WILL YOU STOP INTERRUPTING ME WHEN I AM INTERRUPTING YOUUUU" 😂

  • @migdig8756
    @migdig8756 Před 6 lety +11

    Lindy the lizard

  • @couchpotatoe91
    @couchpotatoe91 Před 6 lety +6

    Now I want to rewatch "Knights of Badassdom", that film was hilariously bad. And funny.

  • @Altrantis
    @Altrantis Před 6 lety +1

    Well, if the elf is a Bosmer (wood elf) from The Elder Scrolls, those people would be telling other people they can't be a wood elf because they don't look like her.

  • @FearTheLivingDFG
    @FearTheLivingDFG Před 6 lety +1

    I have more of any issue with this sort of thing if they are actual characters that are being adapted for something. If it's for fun or alternate take on something that's fine and even more so if it's a character you yourself came up with. That being said I think it does come down to putting in the effort.

  • @elneutrino90
    @elneutrino90 Před 6 lety +22

    The "play your body type" people want their LARP to be like a movie and they will sacrifice variety for believability, I'm with Lindy, you should play whatever you want IF you put the effort.

    • @Rickenbacker69
      @Rickenbacker69 Před 6 lety +1

      I don't have a problem with that, though, as long as they organize a LARP they can set whatever rules they like. Just don't tell others how to do it.

    • @Altrantis
      @Altrantis Před 6 lety +2

      It's about suspension of disbelief in the end. Fantasy has a wider range for suspension of disbelief than other thing like... Downton Abbey.

    • @raizin4908
      @raizin4908 Před 6 lety

      Even in Downton Abbey you could have more racial variety.
      Black people actually existed in Europe to some degree since Roman times. Some were even nobles. Look up Alessandro "il Moro" de Medici, 16th century half black Duke of Florence, who was probably born of an African servant girl of the influential Medici family. Or Ignatius Sancho, an 18th century black upper class British composer.
      Because of historical fiction we like to think that much of Europe, and especially the nobility, were all white people, but reality is more nuanced and diverse than we think.

    • @Altrantis
      @Altrantis Před 6 lety +2

      Again, it's about suspension of disbelief, not about race. If you want to find about racial diversity in high class Europe probably the easiest examples are Alexandre Dumas (guy who wrote the 3 musketeers) and his father. It's truly an interesting tale, they should make movies of them. Thing is those cases were rare, we remember them *because* they were rare, so if you got like 3 non-white nobles in a LARP with 15 people it's still oddly many of them. In fact, note that the girl herself was playing a white person, it's why she has brown hair and blue eyes, to look more like a white person, because that way she reduces suspension of disbelief. Basically, the less you look like the character you intend to be, the more effort you have to put to help others imagine you as your character rather than as yourself. That's what it is about, it's about helping others believe you're the character you're playing.
      But that's neither here nor there. What I meant is that a realistic setting like Downton Abbey has a lot less jiggle room, you have to be more convincing to be believable than a fantasy setting does. Like, this girl, say you're LARPing with her, you come up to her and begin talking, you immediately know she's suppose to be white, her character is white, even if she isn't. You don't have to be told out of character "Psst! I'm actually white." If you were playing something during the Sengoku Jidai, and everyone playing is white, you still know they're supposed to be Asian because it's feudal japan. You don't make excuses about how there were some Portuguese merchants or something. You don't have to be physically like the character you're playing. But if you come in jeans and a T-shirt, with brown, short, curly hair, I'm not going to believe you're Oda Nobunaga. I need you to make fewer things not fit with the character.

  • @coryman125
    @coryman125 Před 6 lety +200

    LARPs with restrictions on what role you can play should be called LAPs- live action playing (since you're not really playing a role, you're just playing yourself)

    • @jeffallison09
      @jeffallison09 Před 6 lety +8

      Yeah, except that a 6' human shouldn't play an dwarf. A 300lbs human shouldn't play an elf. This is just common sense. Otherwise, it's up to the rules of the LARP, and up to the players themselves.

    • @blackdeath4eternity
      @blackdeath4eternity Před 6 lety +8

      what if the 300IB human is playing a obese elf who was cursed & hence their metabolism changed?

    • @smugdiogenes5571
      @smugdiogenes5571 Před 6 lety +2

      blackdeath4eternity That's some deep RP

    • @edennis3202
      @edennis3202 Před 6 lety +1

      So a tall, slender human is the same thing as an elf? I wish that were true, but the world isn't really like that, you know.

    • @smugdiogenes5571
      @smugdiogenes5571 Před 6 lety

      Dr Boom Live Action Fantasy Sims?

  • @nobilismaximus
    @nobilismaximus Před 6 lety

    Lindybeige on the pull 👍 solid effort

  • @Contrabass101
    @Contrabass101 Před 6 lety

    Man, Lloyd, your LARP-game is off the charts.

  • @kittenclaws5775
    @kittenclaws5775 Před 6 lety +3

    I am friends with Raquel!~ She's absolutely lovely and fantastic! Funny you ran into her!

  • @windy8544
    @windy8544 Před 6 lety +18

    As long as the person clearly indicates what they're supposed to be, why not.

    • @cedricburkhart3738
      @cedricburkhart3738 Před 6 lety +1

      windslav Lol so it would be ok with you if she larpt as an troll?

    • @windy8544
      @windy8544 Před 6 lety +4

      Being ugly comes more naturally to some people, but I believe everyone can do it if they try hard enough.

    • @falcore91
      @falcore91 Před 6 lety +5

      Cedric Beachy my money says if she decided to larp as a troll she would would show up and everyone would agree she had the best troll costume.

    • @carbon1255
      @carbon1255 Před 6 lety +3

      Copy paper with a crayon face and eye holes taped to her head would be enough for me.
      Jesus Christ, if you can't pretend hairy dave with some crude makeup is a beautiful maiden, you ain't a good larper.

    • @cedricburkhart3738
      @cedricburkhart3738 Před 6 lety

      falcore91 Your mommy isn't the same person may she is quite suitable to play a troll. 🤔

  • @amitabhakusari2304
    @amitabhakusari2304 Před 6 lety

    Make everyone stand and kneel yourself down, now you are a dwarf- An unusually tall one.

  • @Hubba404
    @Hubba404 Před 6 lety

    That noblewoman‘s laugh had me make an unmanly squeal of happiness!

  • @tinglydingle
    @tinglydingle Před 6 lety +126

    I fall firmly into the camp of anyone can play any character they choose. It's literally all fantasy and escapism anyway, what's the point being snotty about it?
    Edit: Putting effort into playing your character and its appearance is a separate issue I think; that's just a difference between a good and bad roleplayer.

    • @captainpicard2678
      @captainpicard2678 Před 6 lety +7

      i would make a very unconvincing barbarian hero.

    • @user-hu6pk3zs3i
      @user-hu6pk3zs3i Před 6 lety +27

      you'd be ruining the escapism of everyone if you larp as an Apache helicopter m8
      do the things you can do convincingly

    • @user-iq3xc5gc1f
      @user-iq3xc5gc1f Před 6 lety +3

      You say that but then it sort of undermines the whole thing if you've got some 6ft bearded dude for example playing a princess or some such.

    • @tinglydingle
      @tinglydingle Před 6 lety +7

      German Pepe Blackfacing is quite a different thing from simply playing a character with a different natural skin colour.

    • @tinglydingle
      @tinglydingle Před 6 lety +13

      ᛋᛖᚪᛉᛖ ᚹᚫᚳᚾᚪᚾ Not really, although perhaps if a guy wants to RP as a princess he ought to put some effort into hiding or masking his beard, or even shave, but I'm 194cm and play a halfling and nobody has an issue with it.
      A cornerstone of LARP is escapism, and pigeonholing people based on their physical appearance doesn't help them escape their real lives. Suspension of disbelief is an important skill to have in roleplay.

  • @gregoryfloriolli9031
    @gregoryfloriolli9031 Před 6 lety +7

    What bothers me is when TV shows cast actors who look nothing like the race. The Shannara Chronicles had a bunch of actors playing elves who looked nothing like elves. The main actress, Poppy Drayton, was fine but every other actor did not remotely have an “elven” look.

  • @dachd
    @dachd Před 6 lety

    I had booring larps, where I could not get in to the role and felt like NPC despite how great the costumes were and I had ones that was so engageing my jaw dropped about how engaged I was and how real everything felt, despite how ridiculously unreal our weapons and costumes looked.

  • @shakaama
    @shakaama Před 2 lety +1

    as to the elf thing
    they come in every color, even non human colors, and impossible colors.

  • @francoislacombe9071
    @francoislacombe9071 Před 6 lety +274

    Elfs are supposed to be very beautiful people, so I think she qualifies.

    • @SonsOfLorgar
      @SonsOfLorgar Před 6 lety +4

      Francois Lacombe indeed!

    • @ganymede242
      @ganymede242 Před 6 lety +5

      Aww!

    • @franohmsford7548
      @franohmsford7548 Před 6 lety +11

      Her skin isn't even that dark either! She could easily pass for a Wood Elf.
      Aquatic Elves...Well that would require blue or green face/body paint
      Drow...No Problem...simply requires some purple body paint so you don't get told off for wearing "blackface"
      BUT High and Grey Elves NO! Sorry but they're meant to be super-pale and aren't even capable of "tanning" at all {a bit like Gingers}.....White Face Paint however would just make her look like a Ghost not an Elf.
      I couldn't portray an Elf in a LARP either - I'm way too Fat!
      I'm too tall to play a Dwarf convincingly also.
      I think I could get away with playing an Orc or Hobgoblin though.

    • @darlagoddesshate
      @darlagoddesshate Před 6 lety +22

      Fran Ohmsford everything you said remonds me of why I hesitate to LARP and why AS MUCH AS I LOVE FANTASY....its bullshit

    • @rougemoons6150
      @rougemoons6150 Před 6 lety +8

      Take that fedora off 😂

  • @HouseholdDog
    @HouseholdDog Před 6 lety +3

    Reptillian confirmed.

  • @mcnuggetsferg1685
    @mcnuggetsferg1685 Před 5 lety +2

    Those other people will severely limit the amount of drawf to 0, no drawf wants to roll play as a dawf, they do it every day...

  • @MeowMeowDeathRay
    @MeowMeowDeathRay Před 6 lety +1

    I think we now need a discussion on the Black Achilles

  • @Archontasil
    @Archontasil Před 6 lety +19

    I'm definitely a hobbit

    • @obi-wankenobi9871
      @obi-wankenobi9871 Před 6 lety +4

      Hairy feet?

    • @Archontasil
      @Archontasil Před 6 lety +5

      CZcams User 158cm and curly hair. But im not fat. Probably im an anorexic hobbit

    • @rachelpurity1
      @rachelpurity1 Před 6 lety +1

      Archontasius You're small and never shave your feet?

    • @edennis3202
      @edennis3202 Před 6 lety

      I'm a Hobbit who wants to be an elf.

    • @TranscendentLion
      @TranscendentLion Před 6 lety

      Stoor Hobbits from along the River Anduin were, I think, of a more slender build than their more famous cousins, and of course there could be crossbreeding with the other branches of Hobbit to produce some who were thinner than the stereotype. :P

  • @TheAgamemnon911
    @TheAgamemnon911 Před 6 lety +6

    On a more serious note: Yes, you can roleplay whatever you want. No, holding up a sign saying "I am supposed to be an elf" is NOT sufficient. Some minimum effort and forethought is expected in LARP. If you want it cheap and easy, you'll have to play whatever body type nature has dealt you.
    Generally, the more distant your body type is from the expected, the more work you'll have to do to make your costume believable. I.E: A 2m man can still play a dwarf, but he'll have to wear a lot of extra padding to get the dwarven proportions right.

  • @2009Andrew1
    @2009Andrew1 Před 6 lety

    A saw really tall guy play as dwarf slayer in warhammer larp. He just wore barrels with boots sticked to them, so it looked like he was standing on the barrels.

    • @carbon1255
      @carbon1255 Před 6 lety

      That is neat. Or just wear a big costume like they did in the hobbit. Can't restrict it to only people with dwarfism really.

  • @victoriaevelyn3953
    @victoriaevelyn3953 Před 6 lety

    what are contacts like to wear i've always wanted to get some of them coloured ones

  • @casinbound5894
    @casinbound5894 Před 6 lety +3

    I got cast to play Crooks in my schools performance of 'Of Mice and Men'. Now I can do a pretty mean African slave accent, however I still don't think anyone was convinced considering I was the whitest person in group.

    • @carbon1255
      @carbon1255 Před 6 lety

      I do abhor the virtual banning of blackface. Racist comedians ruining it for the rest of us.

    • @farmerboy916
      @farmerboy916 Před 6 lety

      Carbon 12 Eh, iirc the most popular blackface comedian/ movie star ever specifically used the position and the money he got from it to humanize blacks and advance their rights, so...

  • @TheAgamemnon911
    @TheAgamemnon911 Před 6 lety +9

    Already seen a Whale-Elf. We called her HMS Galadriel (but only behind her back)

  • @chrisgurney2467
    @chrisgurney2467 Před 6 lety

    The happy middle is always better than the nutty extreme :D

  • @WolfPeste
    @WolfPeste Před 6 lety

    Fantastic elven costumes/makeup! Animalized nose one - adorable as heck!

  • @patchesohoolihan666
    @patchesohoolihan666 Před 6 lety +6

    LARP should follow the Tabletop rule: No matter what you think the "general consensus" is, if you (or a minority of players) are demanding different standards that of the majority, you are That Guy.
    If you are LARPing with a group of people who demand your accent, mannerisms, costumes, height, race and bodytype EXACTLY match your character, you should endeavour to make sure they do. If you are with a group that allows everyone to turn up with a paper sign with what they are supposed to be written on it glued to their foreheads, then demanding full costume is wrong. Of course, most people will find a happy medium, and there will always be people who push those boundaries, but as a rule of thumb, if you don't like gaming with a group of people: Don't try and change them, DON'T GAME WITH THEM!

  • @lupusdracoaquila5257
    @lupusdracoaquila5257 Před 6 lety +3

    *Makes crass jokes about having "horse parts"*

  • @Muazen
    @Muazen Před 6 lety +2

    Can I play a centaur if I have one horse part?

    • @carbon1255
      @carbon1255 Před 6 lety

      I have one idea for you, bring a cart behind you with your back half in, and you can be a maimed centaur.

  • @ericlarson2203
    @ericlarson2203 Před 2 lety

    She's got the most subtle yet loud New York accent

  • @silvereaglexi3888
    @silvereaglexi3888 Před 6 lety +6

    i don't have any clue how to play a harp, i guess my life long dream of playing a centaur will have to go unfulfilled...

    • @LordBaktor
      @LordBaktor Před 6 lety

      If you write a tragic enough backstory you could get away with being the only centaur that doesn't play the harp. That's how I get away with playing weird characters, when the DM says "I can't allow that" I hand him ten to twenty pages of backstory and he shuts up.

    • @zeroblade6599
      @zeroblade6599 Před 6 lety +3

      Or you just play the back end of the centaur

    • @_Mentat
      @_Mentat Před 6 lety

      They actually play lyres, not harps. Only cute women in long dresses play harps.

    • @carbon1255
      @carbon1255 Před 6 lety +1

      Damnit mentat got there first.
      Play a one armed centaur. Or have a broken one/ be very clumsy. Or maybe nobody hears you play due to jigglypuff like effects. Or maybe you will only play when you find your true love.... ETC.

  • @maverickh9
    @maverickh9 Před 6 lety +5

    that Raquel is adorbs

  • @carnyx7748
    @carnyx7748 Před 6 lety

    Can you make a video explaning why were ancient battles so large in numbers ?

  • @gordonlawrence4749
    @gordonlawrence4749 Před 6 lety

    Medieval type LARP. The best fun you can have with your trousers on. What can beat being slightly trollied and charging about at 3AM clobbering people with a big rubber hammer? I miss those days.

  • @Laamafani2
    @Laamafani2 Před 6 lety +10

    Masks are a thing. Makeup is a thing. Getting smaller is a bit hard, but bodysuits are a thing if you need to get bigger.

  • @MaMastoast
    @MaMastoast Před 6 lety +5

    With regards to the elf thing. Yea it's fantasy, but you have to try and follow the internal logic of the fantasy universe in which you've set your story. So if the elves are the classical slender, pale, attractice people with delicate facial features, it can be a problem if you're a very large black person.
    I dont think the woman in the video is unfit to play an elf for example. She forfills most of the requirements for an elf, so even though her skin is too dark to look like an elf, you can overlook it because so much else fits.
    If she weighed 200 kg though, it might be a lil hard to imagine her as an elf.

  • @lol101lol101lol10199
    @lol101lol101lol10199 Před 6 lety

    Nobody tosses a very tall dwarf!

  • @THEzTROLLlz
    @THEzTROLLlz Před 6 lety

    Lindy would make one heck of a vampire. A very gentlemanly vampire..

  • @jasonpatterson8091
    @jasonpatterson8091 Před 6 lety +4

    Raquel has awesome ears for playing an elf. They're already basically the right shape and thin at the top - I bet she could get away with a small prosthesis instead of big elf ears.
    Believe it or not, I wrote that prior to her saying that people didn't think she should play an elf. What fools.

  • @BobOgden1
    @BobOgden1 Před 6 lety +3

    Dwarf? Like Captain Carrot?

  • @elkor101
    @elkor101 Před 6 lety

    Can you make a video on Farewether manor! I want to go this year and would love to know more!!
    Also on the side if you go to another that would be AMAZING! I would love to meat you

  • @Bigbacon
    @Bigbacon Před 6 lety +1

    We do lindybeige larping here.

  • @nemesmatyi
    @nemesmatyi Před 6 lety +73

    I'd like to see the scene where Lindybeige convinces her to come with him to his bedroom and make a "video"

    • @davidwilson6577
      @davidwilson6577 Před 6 lety +13

      Mátyás Nemes demonetised

    • @RomeoWhiskey692
      @RomeoWhiskey692 Před 6 lety +5

      Bwahahahaha !!!
      Indeed !
      Our Lindy is a smooth one , he is ...
      Perhaps it is best not to look too closely at the means by which he accomplished this feat of wizardry .
      Arcane magics and sorcery indeed ...
      I’m sure the young lady escaped with her honor and virtue intact ... but it may have been a very near thing .

    • @Rickenbacker69
      @Rickenbacker69 Před 6 lety +2

      Aw, he probably just waved his viewer count around!

    • @htf5555
      @htf5555 Před 6 lety

      Which video?

  • @Apostate_ofmind
    @Apostate_ofmind Před 6 lety +3

    Damn, her costumes are gorg! The foal one? Amazing, might help that shes a beauty.

  • @lvd8122
    @lvd8122 Před 6 lety

    Thanks for the fairweather manor videos, just bought my ticket. Also I believe you are right with saying both extremes are wrong. If you are playing something you don't resemble, it would maybe be a good idea to find a plausible explanation for that in your characters personal history? This way you could immerse yourself more easily.

  • @JRiot115
    @JRiot115 Před 6 lety +1

    This is actually a very interesting topic/point to go off of. I wonder if any of the same nuances are ever brought up in the realm of HEMA and Reenactment...