Well There's Your Problem | Episode 93: Tay Bridge Disaster
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The Mighty Bouch turning up to design the bridge in silver boots and blackface
Ever drunk Baileys from a [improperly designed cast iron mould]
Crimping with McGonagall about the buttresses…
When can we expect you as a guest??
@@HamSaladtv Probably when there's a Newcastle based disaster that isn't the football team.
Oh, hi Abi
I really appreciate how genuinely excited Alice seemed when it briefly seemed like the bridge needed to be more rigid.
I cant believe she conceded that sometimes bridges can be too rigid.
@@chillzedd8179 No they can't. The problem is that climate and weather also aren't rigid enough.
We (alice) need to make the climate more rigid so that thermal expansion won't be a thing, then we can build bridges and trains and all the rest rigid AF.
@@benoitbvg2888 A completely rigid climate would also solve climate change
@@ClaudiaNW yes. We've already appointed Alice as our climate tsar for this purpose (in another comment thread). Each year she gets to wear a bigger hat.
@@ClaudiaNW so would the end of the world
The bit about Capital going "you wouldn't hurt me I'm just a little birthday boy" is both hilarious and infuriating, because that's EXACTLY how these people are acting. "We're just the poor innocent corporations and those meanie workers won't risk their lives so our stonk prices don't grow as much waaah", while I nearly lose both my parents to a fucking plague. I hope these people do, indeed, have a Very Nice Time
Liam: "Now smell my balls"
(dead air)
Justin: "Hello, and welcome to Well There's Your Problem"
Comedic TIMING
That was gold.
Could Liam's balls be considered an engineering disaster?
Justin: getting covid so he can't be made to smell Liam's balls
@@warmachine5835 That's the next bonus episode sorted out...
The way politicians keep trying to _bargain_ with the pandemic feels like a very specific sort of déformation professionnelle.
They're so used to solving every problem in their professional lives by trading favours with other oligarchs, they can't process a natural disaster that doesn't care if a ten-day quarantine is inconvenient to their donors and won't be bargained down to a "reasonable" five days.
Wasn't making live sacrifices, including human ones, a sort of bargain with "the higher powers"?
Maybe politicians didn't change that much over time...
theres also a certain degree of the suckers running the show, too. when politicians started saying "government doesn't have the power to help you" they knew they were just saying that to get the rubes off their backs. it's been forty years since then, and the current generation of politicians genuinely believes their predecessor's ass-covering lie.
even the most radical elected officials don't believe that they can do anything more than fiddle around with the edges of ongoing collapse these days
and nothing makes me happier than government and business requiring their employees get vaccinated or have a valid reason not to and in that case test daily. "I'm being forced out of my job!" No you aren't. The same job requirements that said you had to show up wearing clothing and footwear now require that you take simple steps to stop the spread of a plague. Roll up your sleeves, drama queens. And honestly any hospital is well rid of workers who don't trust MEDICINE. While working in a HOSPITAL.
oh, same w climate change
@@xalrath I'm sure that's part of it too. But they're pulling the same shit here in Germany, where politicians broadly speaking do believe in the government doing stuff. Yet they keep trying to haggle with the scientists who tell them how bad it's going to get and what needs to be done about it.
Our politicians interact with epidemiologists (and climate scientists, and...) like they're spokespeople for an interest group, because horse-trading between interest groups is the only mental model of problem-solving they have.
A firth is when you are programming the display of some ranked numbers, are too lazy to properly implement ordinals and end up with 1th
The CZcams algorithm did its thing and suggested this podcast to me just before Christmas. Been trying to catch up on episodes since in no real order, but I have to credit the podcast with a newfound compulsion to drop "Shake hands with danger" whenever engineering faults come up in conversations with friends.
I've had that experience. You end up expecting shake hands with danger to play spontaneously when someone suggests something stupidly unsafe. Welcome to the parasocial relationship.
Just wait till you find a new love for the Soviet anthem
I compulsively mutter it to myself whenever somebody shares an overtly non-OSHA-compliant workplace story with me
Do they come up often?
Algorithm got me about the same time.
Someone did good that week.
Empirical bridge design, Liam style: "I'd say that these rivets feel good, on the whole"
I love when trains 150 years ago go faster than my local regional rail service.
You guys missed the even weirder end to this story. The locomotive was fished out of the wreckage, rebuilt, and remained in service until 1919.
Remembering having to pick a favourite poem to read out in school for a class, and picking McGonagall's The Tay Bridge Disaster out of a desire for mischief
It is an incredibly hard poem to read whilst keeping a serious face
Especially if you affect a Scottish accent! :D
The funny thing is, in German, one of the most famous poems is _also_ on the Tay Bridge Disaster ("Die Brück' am Tay" by Theodor Fontane). It's only 68 lines, we had to recite it at school during the two years I was there.
@@Daneelro so close to perfection, yet so far
Billy Connolly performed it during one of this "Journey" programmes...
re: Safety Third:
My high school had asbestos floor tiles. It was fine~ as long as the (apparently water-soluble??) sealant remained on top, preventing the tiles from being scratched and the asbestos from going airborne.
I mean... Kids NEVER do things like drop drinks or anything, and things like bathrooms never flood for ANY reason at all and... oh, wait. No, for almost half the school year, I had to take a detour around one of the lowest lying halls (that was above grade) between literally the farthest classrooms on school grounds, just to get between two of my classes.
It's cool, I'm sure none of the kids from my high school are getting into their early to late 40s and finding out about all the weird cancers they've been getting or anything...
I used to install security systems in schools before the pandemic hit and we used to drill into those tiles all the time. Our boss refused to get us asbestos training and we didn't use any other equipment than the floor drill so the dust would just kind of hang in the air. One time my coworker was f****** with me and threw some at me while yelling pocket cancer(a reference to king of the hill and pocket sand). My boss claimed that they're so little asbestos in those tiles that it doesn't matter but I mean he was a greedy piece of s*** so I honestly don't know.
@@dmitriglover4309 He wouldn't mind having some pocket cancer thrown at him each day you drill then eh
Oh shyet
@@dmitriglover4309 Well, RIP to you friend. Sorry about that, hope your Boss *HAS A NICE TIME*
You guys should talk about the 2017 Pedrógão Grande fires in Portugal, it has everything you guys love to talk about: engineering mess of the warning system, winding roads in the forest, villages being built too close to the eucalyptus monocultures, highly combustible eucalyptus trees everywhere + drought and a bit of corruption in the end. 👌
That sounds like a corker!
Probably too soon, but, yeah, it was. I don't know where they would find a trusted guest, though.
@@trollamos Ya maybe too soon, as some people like the mayor of Pedrógão Grande are still on trial... but the juice of it is already well established I think
tree go BOOM
@@GilTheDragon Spoilers: more like the people trapped in their cars...
I followed Alice’s directions and now listen to 27 hours of podcasts a day.
The Upper Peninsula also has the only economically-feasible-to-mine elemental copper deposits: most of the copper for US electrification came from there before WWII.
And Upper Peninsula Ale! Painesdale and Quincy #2!
@@markwilliams2620 I was a tour guide at Quincy #2 actually!! Talk about safety third…
We had a few childhood visits to the “iron mountain iron mine”
Good fun fact
@@hideflen6078
My apologies. Great Grampa helped engineer it. Small world. Family from Hancock. Occasionally slummed it in Houghton. Ft Myers now. The clean up crew that did my street after Irma was from Allouez.
"If I were Joe Biden, than I'd be Joe Biden and I wouldn't do anything." That was profound.
"There was a flash of light and then darkness" They did it! Doc Boosh made it back to the future!
It's a poem about engineering disasters... with rhymes. Well There's Ye Problem
There needs to be a Patreon bonus of Alice reading the full poem
I think it would be much more fun to have them use their limited german to read read Fontane's poem about the desaster since that one is much less shit.
[begin anecdote]
There's around 75-80 COVID-positive patients right now admitted to the hospital I work at (which is approx. TRIPLE what it was less than two weeks ago)
There's laws and regulations restricting us from just perusing patient care information for shits and/or giggles (for obvious reasons), but from what I'm hearing from those who do have actual reasons to look, those patients are "mostly unvaccinated"
So if nothing else, getting your shots is a big help in keeping you from getting super-sick if/when you do catch it
[end anecdote]
31:19 lol! my grandmother was born in Peebles.
you know what they say about smelting iron...
he who smelted it, dealted it
"cheaping out at the foundry" is my new euphemism for looking for the g spot.
I have not caught covid 19 as far as I know, instead I've just developed debilitating agoraphobia! It keeps me safe from infectious diseases, and also things like fresh air and sunlight, yay!
fresh air and sunlight are possible infection vectors
it has definitely made my agoraphobia worse... also haven't had it afaik. rip.
@@russianbot8576 inb4 i was agoraphobic before it was cool joke... also heres hoping i dont get it yet
> debilitating agoraphobia
This, so much.
And university starts back up tomorrow, not looking forward to the feeling of constant panic.
Yeah but you can buy those miracle vitamin d pills where some clever person worked out how to get sunshine into a capsule for your convenience.
The token for the bridge just has a giant metal spoon tied to it so the train conductors won't just drive off with it by accident
William McGonagall recognised as the worst poet in history wrote a poem about this disaster (read in awful Scottish accent) :
"Beautiful railway bridge of the silv'ry Tay
Alas! I am very sorry to say
That ninety lives have been taken away
On the last sabbath day of 1879
Which will be remember'd for a very long time."
And it ends:
"Oh! Ill-fated bridge of the silv'ry Tay
I now must conclude my lay
By telling the world fearlessly without the least dismay
That your central girders would not have given way
At least many sensible men do say
Had they been supported on each side with buttresses
At least many sensible men confesses
For the stronger we our houses do build
The less chance we have of being killed."
I learnt about this god awful poet when I was younger, I had some Horrible Histories CDs I got from cereal boxes, that I'd play when going to sleep and this was one of things on the Vile Victorians about the worst poet to ever live and they dutifully put on the most dreadful Scottish accent since Fat Bastard.
ninety lives? but it's 59
@@RoamingAdhocrat well he was the worst poet you can't expect him to get the facts right
Early "make it more rigid" enjoyer
were any historians able to confirm if William McGonagall was in fact a Vogon because i am getting "ode to a small lump of green putty i found in my armpit one midsummer morning" vibes from this
@@RoamingAdhocrat 59 wouldn’t scan in dum de dum meter. McGonagall was writing poetry after all. Very bad poetry with a strict AA rhyming scheme and an iambic rhythm and not encumbered by any needless concepts such as taste but still poetry. McGonagall had drunk deep of the finest meed ever sprayed out of Odin’s arse
Cold open: “I am as lovely as a fresh-picked daisy. Now smell my balls.”
“Welcome to WTYP.”
The first couple of minutes has convinced me that our parasocial relationship has taken a wrong turn.
I want a ticker tape parade for not getting covid but nobody is allowed to attend because of the covid risk. Just me walking down the street.
We all make sacrifices.
I've not got it yet either despite working in a high risk job for catching it. Am I going to end up like the survivors in depressing post apocalyptic media?
I won't come, and thats a guarantee!
Update: I got covid, lol
lmao good job
FYI: Tinkertoys are wooden. Meccano''s American cousin is the Erector Set.
My family lived in England around 1970, and one of my fondest childhood memories was having a pretty complete Meccano set for many years after we returned to the US. For a non-electronic toy, that set gave me so many hours of fun!
Bouch should've lived near the firth of Tay for a while just to understand how windy it can get. I live a 5 minute walk from the Tay bridge, my flat/apartment looks right over the firth to Fife, there is nothing between the building I live in and the other bank of the river 2.5 miles away and the wind across it from about October to March is almost relentless. There was no way this 2 mile stretch of matchsticks was going to survive.
Bouch apparently consulted with the Astronomer Royal at the time, George Airy, to get information on the kind of wind loading the bridge might be expected to undergo. But one of the articles I read in an engineering journal basically put the blame on Bouch for not inspecting the castings personally; it was his responsibility as the engineer on the project, but he was getting old & close to retirement & delegated this to someone who was either unskilled or unwilling to call the foundry on the shit that Rocz mentioned, like filling the holes with that beeswax mixture. Had Bouch taken a proper role in the project, he might have gone down in engineering history as a competent if uninspired engineer of the Victorian era. Instead, he got lazy and finished his career and life in disgrace
@barnabyjoy "Fife" is a race? So much that I don't know ....
Alice easily makes this my favorite podcast. Her sense of humor is very similar to my own.
That lady Alice, she is obsessed with whites
Typical Trans Girl Humour.
Which i am on board with, being one myself :D
"We're not talking hot dog down a hallway here"
Incredible. Lines like these are at least 30% of why I listen to any podcast.
Greetings from Germany! We learned about this disaster in school, in 9th grade. There is a famous German poem - "Die Brück' am Tay" ("The Tay Bridge") by Theodor Fontane - that deals with the Tay Bridge collapse (and is considered one of the best poems in the German language). However, I did not fully comprehend at the time that the poem was about a real event, thinking it was either fictional, or something that took place in Germany.
Thank you guys again for posting the live show.
That poem sounds like me talking to my dogs at the tail end of a three week long drinking binge during a period of complete isolation just before the crying starts.
Sounds like my Friday nights. Except I have a cat.
i believe roz may have sightly misspoke regarding the reason for the conical holes in the casting
sand molds aren't re-used (the sand can sometimes be, but i think you have to re-oil and re-mull it), and i believe the reason you include draft in sand casting patterns is so you can remove the /pattern itself/ from the mold, prior to casting, rather than so you can remove the part from the mold after it's been cast. a pattern with vertical sides (where 'vertical' is perpendicular to the parting line) would drag against the sand for the entire length of the vertical features (which would probably ruin the mold), where a conical pattern could release as soon as it moves even a little
That is right. Worst part is, you can still cast straight holes. You just have to use a core to form the negative instead of having the hole on the pattern itself. IMO what they did was less money or time saving, just not being very good.
@@louisvictor3473 Yeah, what is it; lost sand, or lost wax casting?
@@whoohaaXL On this scale, probably sand casting. Though this time it seems they took the lost bridge approach.
@@whoohaaXL Wait, it just dawned on me a question, did you mean the actual core? If so, there are a bunch of methods to do those, including using a core made of sand. Wax, if used at all would have to be indirect (i.e. making a negative mold to cast positive cores), never as a core.
@@louisvictor3473 yeah the wax would be a core and hence the term lost it would just be melted in the process. But with sand casting that's for outside casting correct?
As a native Michigander it makes me so happy to hear people from out of state know what the "Upper Peninsula" is
I'm only aware courtesy of a CWoD Technocracy game I was in, that was set in Munising, MI. Why a bunch of Brits who met at university in Wales decided to set their game in a small town on the Upper Peninsula I still have no clue, but it was a fun game nonetheless.
Alice needs to sponsor Rigid, my new ED treatment. "Only Rigid can deploy maximum rigidity for total penetration."
having had an eating disorder this took on a wild cast for a moment there.
@@russianbot8576 I had the same thought!
I think there is a tool company with that name too.
The driver door on every Tesla has panel gap issues on the B pillar that would make a '75 Nova laugh it's a$$ off.
The doors on my used and abused '52 International farm truck close more nicely than the ones on my friend's Tesla, and have smaller gaps.
2022 and haven't caught Rona DESPITE working in a restaurant where we've had a couple cases this fall
Where's my goddamn medal?!
I was all excited when I saw the word bridge accompanied by a painting depicting rushing waters---but lo, my disappointment when there was neither a flood, nor any molasses, and nowhere near Tacoma Narrows... (/s)
Great work as always, y'all. Thank you so much.
Saw "Tay" and prepared by listening to song "The Unicorn Invasion of Dundee"
Edit to also say: They shut down my high school here in Canada for only 2 days after someone arsoned a few of the rooms. A whole wing had to be repaired, so a bunch of classes were crammed into weird places for 3 months, including in the small half of the second floor, which could only be accessed from the first floor by separate stairs most of the way across the school. That school helped develop my opinion that 1970s architecture should be kept only as an example of what not to do.
Montana public buildings and unremediated asbestos, name a more iconic duo. We had to sign asbestos waivers to live in the dorms at Montana State University, even as late as 2009 when I attended there. Walls aside, the ceiling tiles were specifically called out as items to not disturb or put one's face near. This is also the same university who distributed official plans for bed lofts to build to add space to the dorms that meant that, if you were taller than about 5 foot, you'd smack your head right into the aforementioned asbestos tiles if you sat up too quickly, showering yourself in asbestos dust.
At least if I get mesothelioma thirty years from now, I know who to blame.
Also, before the snarky Montanans come in and bitch about it: Helena is pronounced "helen-ah" not "huh-lay-na", as I was so aggressively mocked for my first few days living up there.
Good to hear that the 2nd bridge is still there, was worried my plans for getting back to uni in a week would have changed.
Update; went over bridge, still there, didn't collapse.
@barnabyjoy unfortunately, my destination was not Dundee
@barnabyjoy worse
My destination was north of Dundee.
@barnabyjoy exactly.
Aberdeen is the only place I've ever been threatened with a beating for nor partaking in a drunken strangers day drinking at 9am
Sent here from the shout out from vaush. Looking forward to watching these videos.
Liam is one of the few PA drivers allowed in Jersey.
Ugh! Don't forget! As of this moment, the school district of Philadelphia is fully prepared to send its students and staff back into the meat grinder! With the department of health and CHOP okaying it! I'm desperately waiting for a general call for a strike from PFT to save me and my students.
Hold your breath! You brave warrior 🤣
@@georgeadams5390 It was honestly awful. A lot of the friends I graduated teaching college with quit. A few of my students have grandparents in the hospital on ventilators. Fights were bad because there wasn't enough staff to handle it all. No one learned anything, and no one deserves to be in that environment.
Queen Victoria may not have needed the bored ape token to cross this bridge, but she did receive a lazy lion token to commemorate her crossing it.
The queen has several Lazy Lion NFTs depicted on the Royal Standard.
11:00 this isn't even a difficult problem to design around, every other car just has rain gutters around the trunk frame that the trunk dumps all the water onto. But Tesla is better because they don't do any of the normal car industry things right guys?
Also it definitely rains here every winter (sometimes with great gusto, like at Christmas), and now, due to what is surely just random weather weirdness, while there's less rain recently overall there's been more off-season rain, all of which presumably dumps rainwater into the trunks of the people I see around here driving in Teslas. So it's not even really California Brain, more like Elon Brain.
They've moved beyond stultifying, old-fashioned car industry traditions like "making cars that work". Making cars that don't work is the future
The majority of iron ore mined in the US comes from taconite mines in northern Minnesota.
5:00 DAMMIT, I managed to go 2 years without getting it until this goddamn Christmas my anti-vax mom spread it to me, my anti-vax grandma, my grandpa, my great grandma, and my sister.
Thankfully I'm 9 days in and I feel relatively fine, just very worried for the rest of them.
I was hoping I'd make it through the pandemic without ever getting it.
was directed here from vaush great podcast can't wait to see the rest really good chemistry on here
I'm glad Vaush recommended this podcast on stream yesterday, it's really entertaining
Ah…that explains a lot. Been trying to figure out why these people are irritating. Love the topic. Personalities are embarrassing.
you realise these peeps have no association with vaush right
they're just vaguely edgy people
but i guess if you don't like vaush you're less likely to like the things he likes?
vaush told us to check y'all out, really nice stuff
Roz, glad you survived the Rona and didn't get sick for three months like I did way back in March 2020. Since I literally had to sit still for that entire time, something which I would never normally do, I ended up discovering this podcast so at least there's that and I must say I've enjoyed every minute of it!
Beautiful Railway Bridge of the Silv’ry Tay!
Alas! I am very sorry to say
That ninety lives have been taken away
On the last Sabbath day of 1879,
Which will be remember’d for a very long time.
‘Twas about seven o’clock at night,
And the wind it blew with all its might,
And the rain came pouring down,
And the dark clouds seem’d to frown,
And the Demon of the air seem’d to say-
“I’ll blow down the Bridge of Tay.”
When the train left Edinburgh
The passengers’ hearts were light and felt no sorrow,
But Boreas blew a terrific gale,
Which made their hearts for to quail,
And many of the passengers with fear did say-
“I hope God will send us safe across the Bridge of Tay.”
But when the train came near to Wormit Bay,
Boreas he did loud and angry bray,
And shook the central girders of the Bridge of Tay
On the last Sabbath day of 1879,
Which will be remember’d for a very long time.
So the train sped on with all its might,
And Bonnie Dundee soon hove in sight,
And the passengers’ hearts felt light,
Thinking they would enjoy themselves on the New Year,
With their friends at home they lov’d most dear,
And wish them all a happy New Year.
So the train mov’d slowly along the Bridge of Tay,
Until it was about midway,
Then the central girders with a crash gave way,
And down went the train and passengers into the Tay!
The Storm Fiend did loudly bray,
Because ninety lives had been taken away,
On the last Sabbath day of 1879,
Which will be remember’d for a very long time.
As soon as the catastrophe came to be known
The alarm from mouth to mouth was blown,
And the cry rang out all o’er the town,
Good Heavens! the Tay Bridge is blown down,
And a passenger train from Edinburgh,
Which fill’d all the peoples hearts with sorrow,
And made them for to turn pale,
Because none of the passengers were sav’d to tell the tale
How the disaster happen’d on the last Sabbath day of 1879,
Which will be remember’d for a very long time.
It must have been an awful sight,
To witness in the dusky moonlight,
While the Storm Fiend did laugh, and angry did bray,
Along the Railway Bridge of the Silv’ry Tay,
Oh! ill-fated Bridge of the Silv’ry Tay,
I must now conclude my lay
By telling the world fearlessly without the least dismay,
That your central girders would not have given way,
At least many sensible men do say,
Had they been supported on each side with buttresses,
At least many sensible men confesses,
For the stronger we our houses do build,
The less chance we have of being killed.
William McGonagall
Don’t it only encourages him.
This is worse than Vogon poetry
Notoriously the worst poetry ever. He walked to Balmoral to petition the Queen to be the poet laureate. It didn't go well.
Hey everyone, great cast. Incidentally the physical token block system is still used, if you take a train to Stranraer (south west coast of Scotland) it has to stop to hand over tokens from Girvan onwards. We had to take the tokens when we did work on that line and it was a pain waiting for the signal box to open in the morning to give it back
My favourite part of this bridge is how in the "before" photo you can count at least NINE segments all with completely different truss/pier designs. You know it's gonna be good.
For the state of education, the best statement I heard regarding it is from CGP Grey. School is a daycare obsessed with Trivial Pursuit
What's weird is that the United States spends more money PER STUDENT than almost every other developed country. Yet, you still hear stories about schools being underfunded. This really raises the question: where is the money going?
The DOE is run by private education shills, they embezzlle money and make education expensive for public schools through selective and underfunding while subsidizing private schools that they run. The goal in the US is to eventually privatize the entire system to make it an incredibly profitable business for those who already own private schools. Of course this would be terrible for education rates (and more importantly the working class), but given educations failing to evolve or educate students beyond reading and writing and basic alegbra (and that is only 80-90% of students in the US for reading and writing and probably less of algebra) and the US govts current priority to privatize everything to "lower taxes", it feasible within our lifetimes
@@robk7266 football probably lol, American schools love spending tons of money on their football teams
01:27:35 awww,
Here in Western Australia we have a place called Mt. Magnet, which was a whole fuck-off mountain of extremely high-grade iron ore, so named by Lang Hangcock who 'discovered' it by noticing the compass in his light aircraft pointing directly at said mountain when he was flying about looking for iron ore deposits. His loathsome failure of a greedy billionaire daughter is Australia's richest woman, Gina Rinehart.
Yay, nepotism
"Lang Hancock"?
Holy crap Liam, you really must hate her car. I'm just imagining you doing a buck ten down 295 and the constant ka-THUD of the highway equivalent of jointed track...you committed heinous crimes against the suspension of that RAV4, you monster!
Also, can we get an episode that's just the three of you making fun of the 295 & 76 interchange failure? I just drove through there visiting family for Christmas, and it looks like they just mucked a bunch of shitty silt up from the Delaware to cut material costs! 🤣
I´m really enjoying your more frequent uploading, keep up the amazing work guys and gals. Keep these disasters coming, greetings from Estonia.
I got the bovid on Christmas, 1 more day of quarantining. I wasn’t horrifically sick, but I felt like death for a few days. GET YOUR BOOSTER!!
The son of Pasiphaë was quarantining from bovid in that labyrinth
I don't think taking speed is gonna help me avoid the coof
@@highjumpstudios2384 No but there is no other feeling like the immaculate embrace of an IR adderall.
@@jg-qj7ts no shit?
_"The highway is on the east side... the college is on the west side"_
*checks Google Maps*
I see that the Safety 3rd contributor received the best in education
always gets me these victorian rail bridges where they didn't really make them passable except by train, like there's no sides or decking, so if you have to walk this, say to inspect it, you're stepping tie to tie and hoping not to fall off or through
RE the tapered hole thing: that's called draft angle, and there's really no way around it in most casting or molding processes even today*. It lets you pull the part out of the mold, or the mold off of the pattern (in the case of sand casting); without sufficient draft, everything sticks together. If you want a really common example, look at your ice cube tray. Notice how the walls of each of the pockets are tapered? Imagine how hard it would be to remove the ice from the tray without breaking it if they were parallel to each other.
It's less that the foundry was sneaking in a draft angle to protect their sand molds (which are single use anyway) and more the foundry cheaping out by trying to cast the holes instead of drilling or coring them. Coring is a very common technique in sand casting, where you create smaller features from sand and place them into the main mold. before you pour the metal. That's how you get hollow castings (mostly), undercut features, or areas with draft angles which would not be possible otherwise. In this case, they could potentially have used little cylindrical cores inserted into the main mold to create straight-sided holes.
Thing is, that's difficult and expensive. You have to have a whole separate mold for the cores, and it's quite a bit harder and more labor intensive to get everything lined up correctly. If it isn't critical, drafting the holes is a hell of a lot faster, cheaper, and easier. Unfortunately, it seems it was critical.
*There are casting processes which let you get away without using draft angles, but they either didn't exist at the time (like 3d printed sand molds, lost foam, etc.), or aren't really suited to something that large (like investment casting). Investment casting has been around forever, but it would have been ludicrously expensive to make those parts that way.
Another excellent piece of content to quell the New Year lull. I have been one of the few who have silently hoped you guys would cover this engineering epic. Perhaps it might be worth covering the disaster that was the British railway mania, or the "break of gauge" that plagued the world's railway systems until various points in the 19th century (I'm looking at you, America) and their various effects, notably Australia's mess of a gauging issue.
A footnote or two:
- In 1878, trains on the GWR's broad gauge could easily attain speeds of 80mph or more due to their boiler size and stability at speed.
- The locomotive that pulled the ill-fated late night express that fell into the Tay was raised *and* returned to service, despite the fact that it had become fairly badly damaged. The engine, No. 224, allegedly gained the nickname "The Diver" as not only had it taken a dip from the initial bridge collapse, but it was dropped twice more as two attempts of recovery failed mere days apart after the chains gave out (perhaps also forged at the Wormit Foundry?). The third recovery attempt was successful, with the engine being carted off for repair.
Gimme that badge. Been working retail since covid started, near an international airport, and still haven't gotten it.
Man, I have an assignment due in 6 hours on this disaster and this has been a really thorough, hectic, last minute listen, earned a sub thanks!
OMG thank you for including the poem, Alice! It's how I learned about this disaster initially... There is also a poem about the previously covered on the podcast Ashtabula Disaster. Written by Julia Moore, The Sweet Singer of Michigan, who is just as bad a poet as McGonagall, and is also meant to be sung! :D
All I can say about Tesla is that a car that costs that much ought to be able to direct the windshield washer fluid onto the windshield and not completely over the damn car.
-Angry Wet Bicyclist
Currently going through the backlog. Coincidentally, I had 3 teeth extracted yesterday, today is my birthday, and PTO is doing the heavy lifting for me today.
This episode brought me to tears of laughter (and jaw pain) in 2 fucking minutes. YAY LIAM!
Happy New Year to Roz, Alice, and Yay Liam!
Love the quick 'n dirty rundown of early Scottish railway history. Point of order: From Newcastle you'd get on the North Eastern Railway (NER), which would take you to either York or Selby, I can't remember which in the 1840's, mainly because the NER was owned by George Hudson, one of the biggest and most ruthless railway magnates of the Railway Mania period, who was in a bitter rivalry with your next connection, the Great Northern Railway (GNR), which would get you the rest of the way to London.
Regarding Carlisle, it's kind of hilarious to note that the Caledonian Railway interchanged with both the London & North Western Railway and the rival Midland Railway, both of which ran their own western mainlines from London. So basically the LNWR and the Midland fought bitterly to provide the best service to Carlisle whereupon the Caley boys were free to play both sides against each other while hitching their bright blue engines to both company's trains for the run north of the border.
Brain has decided to bring up: What keeps me tuning in is a too big majority engineers seem to get starry eyed blindness for unworkable investor bait. WTYP has a largely rational critical perspective on what will/won’t work that I really wish existed in practice too; instead we’re doomed as a species…
smood
For a more railroad-centric version, see LTC Rolt's classic "Red for danger", which goes into detail into the Board of Trade's reports.
The forge did not follow the most important engineering specification ever written, MIL-TFD...Make It Like The F*cking Drawing
Since you have covered nautical disasters before, the Wyoming (schooner) would be an interesting one. Spoiler, it ends badly, so perfect for this podcast
For what it's worth, the road on the west side of Helena High *is* a highway, it's part of US12, though now most commercial traffic at least uses I-15 and the more truck friendly business loop route rather than making the hard right turn and trundling past the school. US12 past the school is two lanes each way with a center turn lane so yeah I wouldn't be surprised to see cars doing 50+ through there.
Randomly saw a tumblr post by someone asking for stuff to watch when they're sick and your channel , (and more specifically this episode) was recommended. So glad I decided to click on it, I was laughing the whole time and learnt some stuff too! Will definitely check out other episodes
Honestly, the three of you bouncing off eachother is such good chemistry, I love it... I dont think any trio I know of comes close to being as entertaining...
I felt like Alice was reading us Vogon Poetry
An interesting aspect of the Tay Bridge Collapse: It is the sole railway accident in which a train was "lost with all hands". While 100% fatality is routine when an airplane "augers in", I haven't found an account of any other railroad mishap in which no one aboard lived to tell the tale.
When it comes to passenger trains anyway, freight trains have been lost with all aboard.
Speaking of Lego, does anyone remember Znap? It was like plastic Mechano but the pieces fit together with little cross joints that clipped together and the piece were essentially plastic girders. They came battery motors too, so you could make helicopters with moving blades. I loved it. Came up with all kinds of crazy things.
As of 2015 when I visited Scotland, token signaling was still used in many single-track areas.
There is an engineering podcast
Who's content makes me last
If there was a better one about disasters
I would certainly be there faster
But worry not, for they are the master
And make funny jokes that'll make you spray alabaster
TERFs and tankies in the comments did whine
Liam wished that they would have a nice time
The second Tay Bridge is double-tracked but they don't allow two trains to occupy the central bit at the same time.
that cold open was a roller coaster. yay Liam!
Oh man, that bridge at the end. Now that's what I call an extra thicc bridge. I mean, that thing is an absolute unit, wow. 😳
My friends husband has a Model 3. Before Covid he would commute 210kms a day in Alberta in winter. It's perfectly fine.
Helena, MT is pronounced "hell-in-a" like "hell in a hand basket." Montanans love your podcast! Please consider doing an episode on the Granite Mountain/Speculator Mine fire disaster. It occurred in the community of Butte, MT, which Justin briefly mentioned in the Air Mail episode. Butte has a very bizarre history and is also home to a fantastic engineering college, so there is plenty of discussion fodder for an episode.
I am the only renter in a wealthy part of my town in Vermont and half my neighbors own Tesla's and the amount of times I see them swerving or sliding cause there is a dusting of snow on the road is too high to count. Though - hard to say if it's the car or the drivers at fault or little bit of both.
YES YES YEEEEEEEEE-EEEEEEEEEEES
ITS FINALLY HERE
I LITERALLY REQUESTED THIS ON THE FIRST ONE!
31:23 lol, I lived in Peebles as a toddler till I was two and a half
This is Southern Railway erasure.
While I was grow up 3 schools in my town burned down. Mysteriously all of them were due to be renovated or replaced. Part of my town was populated by extremely rich people so our schools were at the bottom of the state list for funding. After the fires they got all the funding they needed. Two of the fires were determined to be electrical. The cause of the last fire could not be determined and the insurance fought paying out given the history. After that no more schools burned down.
The second school to burn down was my middle school. A pipe froze and flooded half the school when I was in 6th grade. When it got out that all the floor and ceiling tiles were asbestos the parents insisted they remove it from the rest of the building. Instead they planned to replace the building. My class would have been the last to graduate. Then the summer before 8th grade year it burned down.
They moved us all to the high school. Younger grades out back in modular. 8th graders filled in whatever room was open. Chemistry lab is a good place to have an algebra class. 8th graders would never play with all the mysterious knobs on the table top and flood the room with natural gas.
A staggered start meant middle school didn't start until around 10. Policy makers did not think this through thoroughly. The school buses were not free. The rich kids got a bus or car ride home. Many middle schoolers were walking home at rush hour in twilight or darkness for half the year.
The high school is on one of the busiest roads in town. No one could agree whether each direction was one or 2 lanes wide. It wasn't unusual for driver to get caught going over 60mph through the school zone. There were crosswalks in front of the school for those with a death wish. They might have employed a crossing guard for a few minutes after school but I never saw them because my last class and locker were at opposite ends of the school and the school was a 1/4 mile from the road. I went another 1/4 mile down to the pedestrian light. It was an old fashioned pedestrian light that turned from a blinking yellow to solid red and yellow. Drivers had no idea what red and yellow meant. Many assumed the light was broken and ignored it.
Appreciate y'all dropping an ep for me to listen to while I feverishly writhe in covid-induced delerium.
YYAASSSS
Ps glad to see you still me.tioning the Gary works, when talking about iron, was pending on it as i watched and rewatched your content multiple times
Instant classic episode 👍Thank you all and happy New Year!
Finally my inconsistent comments to do this very disaster have paid off!!
tbh they usually do take reasonable requests - i think i asked about the space shuttle programme a few times