Brutalism in Cyberpunk
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It's so fascinating that brutalism is supposed to be different from "smooth, clean, sterile" modernism. Both feel sterile. Smooth and clean in all the straight lines. It did nothing to address the problems of modernism.
Yea... Brutalism is like the 20th-century equivalent of the Baroque and Gothic - sublime and unconventional architecture unafraid to make its presence known, with a derogatory adjective for a name 😂. While it may appear sterile with its smooth, clean lines, it's important to recognize the underlying ideologies and intentions behind this unique architectural style, just as we do with Baroque and Gothic, which were also initially labeled with negative connotations. Each style carries its own strengths and influences, leaving an indelible mark on the architectural landscape and reflecting the aspirations of its time.
I agree but Brutalism also feels like you’re in an alien prison which is sick
@@peterbauer1494which is not a good vibe to lived or work in
@@Wain2007_Kalosimagine having the nerve to compare brutalism with gothic and baroque . Shame on you.
Brutalism wishes it could be just one percent of what gothic and baroque are.
I disagree. Brutalism has sharp corners with lots of angles, rough concrete surfaces, and a more bare stone feel like a mountain crag than the modernist cleanliness.
“Cold, raw, concrete monsters” she talkin bout me dawg.
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Looks like u got that dawg in u
damn I knew someone typed this as soon as I heard that lol
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i need me a nerdy asian asap. gon a move to west coast
Concrete weathers and deteriorates badly if its poured badly. Workmanship determines concrete quality. If its poured well by professionals, it can look beautiful for centuries. If done right it strengthens over time. I've been doing construction for 17 years.
Brutalist architecture pushed the limits of concrete. It deserves its flowers.
Yeah, the romans used a different recipe to most modern concrete, which has since been reverse engineered, if we used that shit those buildings would last for aaaaages
@@jamestonjes8263that’s a common misconception based on survivorship bias. While some buildings were preserved by the “self-repairing” aspect of the small flaws in the Roman concrete, preserving them well for centuries, they can’t withstand anywhere close to the amount of force modern, well made concrete can. Recommend looking into it, the process is pretty interesting as someone not involved in construction.
Concrete Monsters: You should've loved me.
Actually, concrete requires coating to stand time properly. All acids, even atmospheric carbon dioxide that forms carbonic acid, cause erosion in concrete, because it's basic. In areas where there's chance for water to freeze, concrete also needs pores to prevent cracking
@@xandermcdonald8543 almost like even back then there were good construction crews and bad ones. Not really survivorship bias when this concrete got studied and is being used to improve ours now.
you should investigate mexican brutalism, it mixes with volcanic rock to give it a lasting texture that is also still appealing; aslo mixing it with murals makes it have more color
The UNAM is quite appealing.
It's almost like mixing brutalism with non-brutalism makes it less brutalistic. Who would have known?
There is Brutalism in the videogame of 'Control' that might interest you.
The Oldest House is such a 1000/10 example.
I second this recommendation!
The research sector of that game is especially breathtaking. Despite Brutalism being a key point of the game’s architecture, they managed to make every section of the Oldest House feel so…alive, lived in.
@@_NootNoot_ Well it may be by accident or by genius but the Oldest House is a living and constantly changing brutalist structure which contrasts the lifelessness of brutalism while simultaneously amplifying the coldness of it by changing with no concern to anyone or anything in it.
Beautifull game
I love brutalism, it has so much presence, but even I'm not sure I could live in it. Work? Sure.
I like the dystopian feel, a really good example is in Conquest of the Planet of the Apes (1972)
I don't know if they'd be even nice to work in, unless you paint them or hang art or something being inside a brutalist architecture building just makes you kind of depressed.
Working is living too
I love this type of architecture too. I do not think that the weathering is the cause but people neglect these type of buildings...in Austria and Germany you might find well preserved buildings. Concrete just does not like water with ice cold weather so as far the water management "roof" is intact and architect did count with that in mind, the building will be just fine. Name me a type of structure that will survive any negletance.
I love the idea od exploring an abandoned brutalist building. Always have
I actually really like this style, the town hall in my old home town was a brutalist building. I just really like the interesting geometry of the structures, their strong, protective, castle-like aura and if you decorate the inside with plants and art they can look really clean, calm and relaxing on the inside imo
I love the part where they show the brutalism in Cyberpunk
Cyberpunk is a genre which I’m assuming was what she is referring to
She is directly talking about Blade Runner, so yes, cyberpunk moreso in genre than the actual game.
@@jamesnightingale2788 Just because you are 12 and the only concept of cyberpunk you have is the video game, doesn't mean you know what you are talking about.
@@SmokeymcJoint420 hahaha a 13 year old trying to pull rank? I’m 33 genius
@@jamesnightingale2788you sound and come off as a 12 year old.
I lived in São Paulo for a few years, brutalism is very present. Many of the Brutalist buildings are in constant use, some are even important buildings in the city, such as the Museum of Modern Art.
How interesting, that museum has such an interesting and well thought out design. Thanks for sharing! Brutalism in Europe got applied to a bunch of housing blocks and government buildings since there is a lot of freeze thaw cycles it tends to break down faster, thus being stuck with buildings that aren't useable nor removable. I'd have to imagine Brazil as being pretty good environment for brutalism long term.
same in The Philippines. Brutalist buildings are still in use as cultural centers, theaters, hospitals
Sweden has quite a few well preserved examples of brutalist architecture still in use, two notable examples are Landsstatshuset in Malmö, and the Klockarebacken funeral chapel in Höör. Especially the latter is quite stunning on the inside in the way in which the architecture lets in natural light and uses it to create an atmosphere.
There's also S:t Görans Gymnasium and Villa Delin in Stockholm, as well as the campus of the Faculty of Engineering at Lund University.
I think it blunts the beauty of Brazil. Having those utilitarian, soulless slabs of concrete in the middle of the tropics, samba music and colorful culture. It feels out of place.
São Paulo is Very brutalist and opressive
TBH, they look good in movies. actually looks epic with serious stories
I think the problem is in most context (at least from what I've seen) media uses brutalism as an expression of oppression and control in modern society with what makes it cool being the push against it and bringing soul to something inherently soulless
brutalism is gorgeous to look at from a distance. It has its own charm
@@tink6225why's everyone in love with this dystopian architecture that's nice to look at from a distance? Classic architecture for the win which promises prosperity and is nice to look at from without and from within. It's clearly the superior design
@@alclay8689 well I'm a student who hates the use of brutalism, and most of my studies focus on human friendly architecture. As much as I hate the way brutalism is utilized nowadays I appreciate it for what it was originally
look up the russian embassy in cuba, looks like the tower of mordor
Lived in 16 floor apartment building of all concrete, loved it. Could never hear the neighbours and was very private. However when it was time to do maintenance due to concrete cracks it was a very costly affair, as well as time consuming. Just the scaffolding alone was a major cost.
If you build it right they can last with minimal maintenance. Obviously there are a lot of variables and factors that go into construction but generally speaking you'll find many 50 year old buildings in great condition.
You never hear the neighbours until one of them starts a renovation. Concrete is a perfect structure-borne sound conductor. As for air-borne noise, If you didn't hear it then you were lucky having either silent neighbours or minimum 20 cm thick walls. I live in a concrete tower block with 14 cm thick walls between adjacent apartments and hear everyone around me, though all are aware of it and polite enough most of time
@@user-cc8dy2dt3k depends jow the building was made. I have a few friends that live in some of those buildings and really you cant hear the neighbours unless they are screaming or smt. There are very thick floor/roof plates and apartments are made in a very specific way as the building also has a weird shape, imagine a triangle 🔺️ and make lines from points towards the middle, thats the shape.
“Influenced by people’s experiences over time” really got me. I could see why people are taken up with the idea, because that concept alone is so cool.
Yeah my grandparents lived in the USSR and that was the peak of brutalist architecture. I'm no architect, but they said that the building itself started to sink with broken concrete (does it make sense?). The interior was gray and soulless and the exterior, even more depressing. Btw what is your favorite Architectural monument?
Yea. Unless we can create better concrete like Romans our concrete structures begin to fall apart.
@@indfnt5590We already solve the roman concrete mystery a year ago or so btw
@@indfnt5590the problem is Roman concrete can’t handle modern problems, like weight demand, etc…
@@twizz13r24it handle an entire colosseum filled with people and animals
No amount of fancy architecture can survive corrupt cost cutting .
NGL, love the bomb shelter aesthetic.
You wouldnt love it if you grew up in the concrete hellhole that was the ussr
@@theFORZA66i from the eastern block and i love it
@@theFORZA66My older relatives are always complaining about how much better the USSR was, it seems like a largely outsider perspective to dislike it
@NostalgicOccultist we must have very different relatives. Mine only praise the polish pope, they despised the ussr although they did appreciate the culture
I grew up in the former USSR and I kinda like brutalism, actually!
They can eat up artillery shells pretty well.
My year 5 paper was on Brutalism while my year 7 project was on Brutalism. Very interesting theme and style.
It's not interesting it's shite
Tell us more!
One of the concrete monsters pictured in this short is the Robarts Library at the University of Toronto, which is one solid building. It's not that old (1973), and has aged fairly well so far. A former example of brutalist architecture is the original 1969 Art Gallery of Alberta in Edmonton, Canada. In 2009, part of the building was demolished and a new facade was built, thus abandoning its brutalist past.
I dunno why Robarts gets so much hate, its beautiful inside
@@matthewblake1884 For 50 years of students, Robarts embodies the misery of studying for midterms and finals, and writing term papers 😭 Those students see that building and have PTSD.
As I remember the Robarts library, many of the interior library spaces are clad in dark wood panels, which has a nice, warm look and feel to it. Dark red and blue carpeting added to this sense of warmth. This is actually the antithesis of brutalism. If the interior looked like the exterior, with uninterrupted stretches of dreary, grey concrete, broken only by different surface textures and patterns, these spaces would be very depressing.
Lol Robarts library at U of T. I studied there almost every day for 6 years. Depressing, cold, and anti-social. When I finally graduated, I felt like I had been released from prison 😅
From what i understand, most of the carbon footprint of concrete is produced in the construction, not demolition. But i also think these structures could be salvaged by decorating with beautiful colorful murals.
I do love weathered brutalism though. The superposition of decaying concrete and overtaking greenery is just so beautiful to me
I love Brutalism, namely for it's futuristic dystopia vibes. Like the St Mary's Hospital in Chicago. The gigantic vents on that thing transport me to some bladerunner future timeline that could've been.
Just what you need from a hospital
@@tonmaster2 with US healthcare, I agree
Why tf would you want that for real. Oh wait, you live in Chicago, you've been bred to accept your overlords. Probably had them install a city cam outside your bedroom window to feel safe too, huh
St Mary’s was a good design. The UIC buildings are horrible and oppressive.
"yeah I'd like to live in the dystopia neighborhood...no not the rusty one, the grey one where the government is still around."
It's sad that Brutalism style buildings are used naked or bare walled. Paint them, hang tapestries, something, anything, and they become a great backdrop kind of like a lighting frame at a concert. But left as is feels like walking through the ancient skeleton of some cubist monster.
Totally! It's almost as if adding the human element through human activity that was the whole point. In my opinion, sterility in brutalist structures is just a reflection of how we use the space.
I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of the "sterility" just comes from the fact that a lot of them were used for dehumanising purposes, e.g. office work, prisons, hospitals.
I love seeing moss grow in brutalist buildings because of the
a) apocalyptic feel
B) it adds color
C) it feels ancient but modern enough to have concrete
Of course If you painted them it could actually be a place you'd want to hang out in for more than 5 minutes in awe of the cubist monster that might have had this skeleton
My uni has only brutalist brutalist buildings on its main location, the outside of the buildings are grey or greenish gray, the windows though clean for the most part make it look like it has history and it projects weathered, sturdy perhaps abandoned?, but inside they are actually better there's reds and greens, murals, banners, an inner patio with some science-y contraptions and that is only the stem faculty that I'm in, the humanities faculty where we have some cross classes in is that but better (I mean it's humanities the student body has more creative density) their decorations are better, a couple of floors have blackboard walls where they draw shit with chalk and it mostly stays there throughout the year
The Golden Mile Complex in Singapore didn’t feel sterile though. It was painted, bustling with life, and many were sad to say goodbye.
The funny thing is, if we just painted it, we'd be right back to ancient architecture of marble columns and ochre on whitewash.
@@matiaspereyra9392 honestly ecobrutalism is beautiful. It's the only exception I give to any building style that is even remotely cold.
Brutalism is frankly beautiful, i know you say "people don't like hanging around these raw concrete structures"- but i do. I think theyre comforting and wonderful. tbh i think a lot of people are predisposed to dislike brutalism cause of the association between brutalism and the soviet union, and the strong anti communist feelings of the cold war and post cold war eras
There's more to it than that, but you're on the right track... started writing a long message I didn't have time to finish 😅 In short, brutalism was misunderstood and misused, so there are few good examples and too many bad ones
...and I agree, when done right (or at least enough) then it is beautiful
I dislike brutalist architecture because I find it unnapealing and depressing, and because the buildings end up just looking like they are the same thing after a while
Overgrown abandoned brutalist buildings are admittedly good looking to me, the blankness serves as a good canvas for the greenery
People should know there is a thing called "building maintenance". If you do it properly, things tend to not deteriorate badly over time.
I love brutalism.... Walking through it especially as it's abandoned, the echo of you your foot steps and all...
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Personally I love the way they look. They look giant and cool. Reminds me of the universe. You're so tiny in comparison but then you remember, someone just like you created it.
And then you remember that the piece of concrete is so tiny compared to a mountain or the sky.
And it feels like blade runner where nothing can satisfy the large scale desire.
@junkjunk4148 we're all just 1s and 0s thinking in 1 dimensional ways, man. We could live forever if we all just let go of the physical 😎
@@SozioTheRogue for real.
Bro did you hear that 0s and 1s thing or is that a thing now. I heard someone else saying nearly the same thing a few days ago.
@junkjunk4148 idk if it's a thing, it doesn't matter, people should just always know that we either live in a simulation where everything I'd a type if 1 or 0 oooor we are the a or the base reality where our digital space is the first of the infinite. And that depends on if any other alien species went our path as fast as we did. The longer we survive for in this ocean of death the shorter and shorter the time between pre-digiverse and post-digiverse become, causing more and more humans to see it as their base world, which may be how our world came to be. But what do I know, I'm just some guy
I don't usually pick arguments about religion, I'd defend to my literal death everyone's right to believe what they want and I think religion can be a valid force for great good ... but this right here is a great example of why choosing to believe in an anthropomorphized deity -- and especially believing it "created" the universe -- is so blatantly egotistical.
Humans aren't special. The pervasive desperation to believe we're special has led to the MASS EXTINCTION AGE we currently live in.
It's frankly juvenile and disgusting to center our species like that, and choosing to believe in an all-encompassing deity that's "just like us" is blatant self-glorification. Believe in something divine and spiritual, sure, I think there's a place for that, but I wish people would stop pretending that humans are some sort of standout/favorite and that surely deity must look like us. It's pathetic and also harmful.
I studied for 4 years at a brutalist educational center built in 1968. Most depressing years of my life.
@darioole2134
I can imagine 😳😬
Brutal 🙌🙌🙌
Brutalist structures are so thought provoking. A massive, unapologetic structure dominating its surroundings breaking away from all sorts of conventionalism
Oh my God, this! Just now I was thinking about what made it so fascinating to me. This makes so much sense
Architects must be closely monitored to stop them from producing monstrosities for what their flawed worldview thinks of as "the greater good". They are very rarely correct, let artists and engineers collaborate but honestly just imprison the architects in brutalist towers cus they're making the world worse.
Unapologetically take up space 🙂
Idk, only thought I really have when looking at them is “damn this building is ugly asf and doesn’t look appropriate in a culturally and historically rich city”
The only thoughts that brutalism provokes to me is that the buildings are ugly as shit
I like Brutalist architecture, but I wonder just how much the Soviets skimped on their structural rebar, because PROPERLY built and maintained (even just a couple coats of sealant now and then to keep the moisture out), concrete will last for decades.
The Soviet Union collapsed over three decades ago, and most of those buildings were built decades before that. How many decades are we supposed to maintain these oppressive buildings?
@@wbfaulk Which is cheaper, to maintain it, or to build it anew? It's not like post-Soviet countries are overflowing with spare cash to just tear down a perfectly working structure to build a new one with a fancier design.
@@BlackEpyon I'm just commenting on "will last for decades". It's already been decades.
@@wbfaulk And they can last decades more, if they're adequately maintained. Concrete construction will last nearside of forever if you keep the expansion joints caulked and lather on a fresh coat of paint once in a while to keep the moisture content consistent and resist weathering. More often than not, concrete structures are demolished because somebody wanted to put something new in it's place, not because there was anything wrong with the old structure.
@@BlackEpyon Okay, so three weeks ago, they would last for decades, but now they last forever. Got it.
Brutalism gives me feelings of 80's anime and fadhion and rock n roll, i feel like that environment connects with brutalism.
Check out BLAME!, literally brutalism vibes you get from chapter 1 till the end.
The original influence of forerunner architecture in halos 1-3 was brutalism, it’s a super cool style in videogames that I hope comes back
Important reminder that governments knew that brutalism apparently reduces the chances of radical ideas popping up among students in some secret surveys they did and comparing information and data regarding student movements across different institutions, thus the funding and surge of universities and other similar institutions before the 2000s that used and abused the architectural style with an added bonus that the people helping the design were from government branches and made the designs have less doors and choke points in order to avoid any type of movement from gaining an effective foothold if they were to settle camp there as there's always open access points and very few ways to escape if pinned down, outside or inside the institution.
I live in the Barbican, and it's wonderful. But it is well maintained by residents and the City of London. Likewise the Arts Centre is shown great love and care. Without the love it could be a disaster.
That's the key though. You gotta maintain concrete, otherwise moisture will ingress, and cracks will form and widen. A few coats of paint, or even sealant now and then will add decades to the life of the building.
Damn I love the Barbican, you're really lucky to live there!
I just perused some pictures. It's wonderful! Especially the conservatory.
Love that you included the water tower in Johannesburg
Brutalist structures ARE beautiful- as an actual canvas.
They NEED sealant and paint to truly become the artworks they deserve to be.
Having grown up in "concrete jungles", ghettoes, if you will, brutalist architecture gives me an incredible sense of peace and nostalgia. While some people think of it as cold and heartless, it's quite the opposite for me.
They look amazing for films and comics.
I love hanging out in cold raw concrete brutalist structures.
They are like relics of an older time. I love them. Older thoughts, philosophies, and ideas.
Simple fix. Lush green vegetation based facades. Turn them in to vertical gardens.
In Bladerunner 2049 that place was made entirely of wood instead of concrete. Wood is more valuable than gold in that world. So it was an extravagant display of wealth.
your brutalism videos put the idea in my head to do a photo-series of the traces of brutalism still left in my hometown... i am realy drawn to those buildings...but at the same time: like it was said in the comments above mine, i can t realy imagin living in one full time
I’ve always had this vision tucked away of a place that is like, All concrete, for miles and miles, bridges and roads overhead. Levies like natural rivers. All decaying. Graffiti covering it all like the many torn stickers and scratchs on an old item that’s been sitting in a thrift shop for 30 years
Concrete doesn't weather badly, rather it has a much longer lifespan than any other structural material that we used to this day.
Concrete creates a very sturdy structure when it is used in a compressive design, it's only when we started applying reinforced steel and use it to structural design that required tension force that concrete starts to shorten its lifespan.
I genuinely love brutalist buildings and would not mind living and working in on them at all, as long as they're being maintained. I guess I'm just weird.
If I could live in the Oldest House from Control I'd be psyched to wake up every morning.
I went to school in one. It was cool . Felt like I went to school at a secret military base
No you're not weird. A lot of time & money is spent into making anything associated with the USSR seem evil, even simple stuff like architecture. The Cold War was a culture war among other things and the effects of it still shapes our opinions to this day.
@@Person-sf7qlor you know people just don't like excessive greys...
@@dannyeckerd9324He makes a good point though. I'm very anti-commie personally but Western media is always trying to sell you this idea that everything they manufactured or built in the soviet union was trash compared to Amurrica's amazing feats of engineering, but that's just blatantly false. They did some pretty impressive things over there. They tried to do the same brainwashing in regards to Nazi Germany but there's no way to hide the fact that German engineers are always going to be some of the best lol.
I love the cold decaying nature of concrete. I’m designing a shop now that is brutalist and will have warm under lighting and plants to balance that inherent nature.
Unless you have exposed steel/rebar, that's gonna be a problem.
I always loved the urban exploration and urban decay reclaimed by nature aesthetics. Maybe it’s something something found family something something making a home in a hostile space, idk how to describe it exactly. It’s just kinda comforting knowing that people were here once, but I won’t need to inherit their goals the same way I inherited their space. Blank slate, post apocalypse, liminal space, something something.
as a UCSD alum, I love the fact that whenever there is a discussion on brutalist architecture the UCSD library is one of the pictures
My junior high school made the montage! The angular shot with the “So Massive” text. Pepper Middle School, built near a swampy wildlife preserve by the airport. I was in the first class to go there in 1974-78. It was bleak, unfinished and plan was never used as intended. In a flood plain, concrete cracked and crumbled in places.
Roman concrete last over a thousand years
Yep, i heard it was mixed with sea water and kind of heals itself by creating minerals, which is why Roman structures stood for millennia, not just a 100 years.
But we still dont know exactly how to make it
The bits that survived, did.
the native just started reusing the building as a quarry so, it got spread around, mixed with other material
@@Silent002 it’s still proven to last this long. The foundations or underbelly of Rome that still exists today, is built on this very material.
I love brutalist architecture, just something about it feels safe
I didnt knew until now at 35yo, that I fancy architecture more than I was aware before. It's so fascinating and she is so passionate about it
There was a high school in my hometown that was built like this, it was referred to as the prison school, even though it had the same academic status as all the other district schools. Had an FLL comp there once, it was very sterile and the design didn't allow for much personalization: spirit banners were placed in such awkward locations that they were overlooked.
And that was overlooking all the problems with deterioration noted in this vid.
"We're stuck with these concrete monsters"
You make it sound bad but I actually love abandoned brutalist buildings. They are so fascinating to watch and explore
specially when resignified, like tropical brutalism
You are in the minority, thankfully, cause this is a terrible opinion
I get that it's fun but buildings aren't made for the purpose of being abandoned and explored decades later. At least they are long lasting
Try being forced to live in one. These places are devoid of culture and beauty and were therefore historically hotspots for gangs and violence. Same with the disgusting architecture of low income househousing today. When your environment is devoid of meaning and culture, people overtime tend to disrespect and destroy it. Its why concrete buildings in rome still exist.
As a kid, I always felt depressed inside those buildings and constructions.
As a kid, I always felt at home inside those buildings and constructions.
Yes. Concrete is absolutely horrendous to try and remove.
The black and white one you use as an example of where people ‘don’t like to hang out’ I can assure you people hang out at all the time. It’s an absolute hub of the arts on the south bank here in London.
I love those concrete monsters. That ARE a blank canvas. I'd fill them with plants.
Nice idea , it's remind me why i wanted to go to Ikeshima.
It's a japanese nearly abandonned island (only a few eldery lived here ) who was populated with more than 9000 to 10 000 peoples in the 80s . The nature retake his right on the island , filled the wall with plant . It's somewhat like tchernobyl , but on an island without nuclear problem .
I encourage to see the island for yourself if you like the style , i will definitly do in febuary next year if everything will go right .
@@Eldiran1, fun fact, some people still live in suburb of Chernobyl.
And I for one love every single one of them.
Its very funny - the last clip in your video is Robarts Libaray at U of T, which is extremely densely inhabited. They recently expanded it, adding a huge glass wall on one side which sort of feels like adding one architectural mistake on another.
These buildings serve as great reminders.
They're not monsters, there is beauty within these cold brutal lifeless buildings almost uncanny looking. They kinda represent adulthood, where you feel alone and molding.
I used to hate brutalism, but after learning about its ideals in art history class, it started to grow on me and now I love it
Can you suggest a book one could read for this?
Yeah because when you write an idealistic poem about shite it starts smelling like flowers
I don’t believe in demolishing any building (unless it’s an unfixable health/safety hazard). Even the worst brutalist buildings can give a nice vibe if there’s enough secondhand furniture and decorations.
Looks so dystopian, even uncanny, but I love it in some way
i loooove brutalism, its one of my favorite architecture styles. i like it because it reminds me of a welcoming cave that my inner bat could flutter about and hang. would i live in a brutalist apartment building? yeah i would, theres something about it thats welcoming to me
Brutalism also sounds metal as fuck
Eh, speak for yourself. I love it. It's about filling it with contrast, raw woods and that's such a comfy home. My house is like in a lot of ways and my friends like visiting, its a converted old concrete brutalism-ish storage
But isn’t the point of brutalist the lack of these additional things? Like, the act of adding things onto it and giving variety actively goes against the whole “raw and bold” thing brutalist seems to be going for?
The fact that we're stuck with them adds to the brutality. My favorite type of architecture.
The pink and green building looks cool
I still love the architecture style. It’s like sci-fi.
Brutalism invokes a feeling of deep unease in me - like I'm somewhere not meant for me. I love that feeling
What is wrong with you?
@@detektivejarvisfuckyt Plenty. Gentle sadness is my favourite mood.
You can make them look better by vegetation. Plant the sides of the buildings , it will both look good and will create better air and isolation for the tenants
people do like hanging out in these spaces.
2049 was a GORGEOUS movie, incredible cinematography with the harsh architecture.
As they say an architect's dream is an engineer's nightmare 😂
Chandigarh (a capital city of two states and a union territory of india) was actually made completely with brutalism as base by the French architect who built it
You had me at "brutalism" and "cyberpunk".
Brutalism is the most beautiful architecture when done right, imagine it as a base that you need to dress up for example with plants.
the architect must also make the space designed for humans which means to give the space a purpose and not just to give it a certain look.
you also need to control the lightning of the space and use paint in some parts to give it life.
LMAO "most beautiful". Nah, when done right it just barely holds a candle to mediocre examples of other, more human forms of architecture
@@theFORZA66 give an example of what you speak about? i bet your example is some modern architecture garbage that looks like a crumpled up paper.
@HamguyBacon literally classicism, or anything pre industrialization. Sorry bud but the beauties of brutalism only lie in how easy and cheap this simple, ugly and depressing architectural style is to build. Its great for building a lot of housing in a short time, as anyone who lived in the ussr or is living in an ex-ussr country would know, but its also extremely conducive to depression and sadness, as any of the previously mentioned people would be all the more familiar with
Im not a huge fan of modernism either, although i much prefer it to brutalism. If brutalism is to actually work as something that is intended to actually look beautiful, then it should be a 1 and done giant monument like how ancient romans used their concrete to make breathaking structures, not used so prevalantly to make concrete slabs. And even in this ideal scenario, i would still wager that the ancients had a better grasp of what looks good, as even their most mundane buildings would look more appealing
@@HamguyBaconLook at any classical or gothic church and tell me that Brutalism looks more beautiful lol. Brutalism looks like shit.
@@vanbogan3712 gothic architecture is not beautiful, its dark and depressing.
Love you're talking about it I think the architecture in Night City is pretty wild.
The title is referring to cyberpunk as a genre of storytelling not just the one video game lolol
I feel like these structures get more beautiful when they're abandoned and nature begins to take over. I have an odd fondness for the beauty of dilapidated/abandoned buildings
"Concrete deteriorates badly" - Pantheon architectors were hearing constantly while working on a project
I think its beautiful. Especially when the concrete begins to degrade. It feels alive somehow.
The CO2 argument is a sunk cost fallacy. The CO2 emissions have already taken place, demolition will not add that much. Replacing these monsters with more energy efficient buildings probably is a nett benefit.
Indeed. Nobody care about co2 emission when it can make profit. Government just don't want spend additional money.
@@user-xt1yj5pt9y You do not seem to understand the point I am making.
To find the environmentally best solution, you should only look at the emissions arising from demolition of the old building, building the new building, the future energy use of the new building, and compare that with the emissions arising from renovating the old building and the future energy use of the old building if it stays around.
The embedded energy of the new building is relevant, because these are emissions you could avoid or minimise, the embedded energy of the old building is not relevant. These emissions have already taken place, you cannot reverse that.
I mean demolishing and rebuilding uses a huge amount of co2. Unless the building is unsafe, and super inefficient and unfixable you’re better off just retrofitting and improving it, than demolishing no?
@@nanagotham1590 Yes and that needs to be compared with the energy needed to renovate the old building, and the energy use of the old building and the new building for heating and cooling. However, the energy that was once used to create the old building is not relevant. That is a sunk cost. These emissions already happened. The only thing that should be focussed on is future emissions.
Naur. Naur. Naur. NAUR. The CO2 of demolishing and rebuilding is prettttty substantial. Always better to remodel and adapt an existing building than replace it from a carbon perspective.
Im literally in love with sound of her voice
So refreshing... I love brutalist architecture, so nice to see such a great take on this often overlooked style.
Some people would happily hang out in a brutalist designed building though. I love eco brutalism the “we landed in a jungle in our concrete spaceship 50 years ago and now we’re a part of the environment” look.
Monsters? That's a bit emotive! I love brutalism, the Barbican in London is one of my favourite buildings ever!
The Barbican bit is a HOT take, respect
I love how the short ended with UofT's Roberts Library.
I love extreme brutalism, I can't help but stare at any building I find with that style
In order for brutalism to work by its own definition we should all be allowed to graffiti whatever tf we want over buildings that look like this so they get a little soul
Don't care, I want a house like that
Robarts library from uni of Toronto shown at the end definitely fit the description “cold raw concrete monsters”
I for one love love love the concrete buildings
I think of "Brutalism" as a response to Nazi horrors. A lot of Brutalist architecture in London was built because of the blitz. Brutalist elsewhere came about because of the rapid urbanization of the 1950.
The rapid deterioration of Brutalism needs to be compared with the deterioration of Beaux Arts or Moderist or PoMo buildings which seems to deteriorate at about the same rate. So the question is which are easier to maintain. To be determined as best as I can tell.
Brutalism was literally only chosen because of how easy it is to produce these simple brutalist buildings. Thats literally it. It wasnt chosen due to being good stylistically, it was chosen for being cheap and quick. Great for rebuilding after a war, but the style should have been abandoned as soon as it possibly could have. Imo its done massive damage to the mental well being of the people of entire societies, especially those living in ex-ussr countries
And now we’ve rediscovered the recipe for Roman Concrete, meaning they can take many many more years to decay.
I like how they covered the brutalist architecture with holograms on the surfaces in Cloud Atlas in the future city of Neo Seoul.
"Carbon footprint"- the biggest insult to somebody's intelligence.
There is something about brutalism that I enjoy a lot. I would not mind if more buildings where built with this style.
There are good example of brulatist arhitecture. And even more simplistic of them are quite apealing. At least more so than modern boxes of glass and steel. It has some expression to it, a print of a bygone era. I just love that toned down mood that underlines a stark contrast whith actual joy of life people had and still have around thouse buildings.
if they made them 10x weirder, I would actually like it.
Like stairs that go to nowhere or randomly winding halways that start at thr first floor and end up in the 3rd floor.
Maybe a catwalk on the outside you can only access if you climb over the balcony of apartment 67B that leads to a secret garden where the dove keeper lives.
That might be the worst explanation to prevent destroying those monstrosities.
you just have bad taste
@@6079SmithW-lr5zxhe feels that something beautiful should be destroyed. yes it has to do with taste. his is bad
@egswilly Do you find brutalist architecture beautiful?
Because I’ll be frank, I don’t, I in fact think it is actively ugly in a deep personal level