Air Compressor Auxiliary Tank Setup, First Air Compressor Advice

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  • čas přidán 20. 08. 2024

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  • @802Garage
    @802Garage  Před 5 lety +29

    *WARNING!* There has been concern in the comments over using an old, rusted, or welded on air tank. I won't go into details here, but the bottom line is that you should use only tanks which are rated for the pressure you will be operating at and which are in good condition. Ideally you want a tank which was made recently with no rust, damage, or uncertified repairs. You also want a drain and to keep moisture out of the tank. If you have concerns about serviceability, consult an expert.
    Your own setup is your responsibility and I always encourage further research before you tackle a project like this. For extra safety you could also add another pressure relief valve in addition to the one on your compressor. Plus it's never a bad idea to have your air storage behind a barrier, in an outdoor enclosure, or in a separate room. While my setup has caused me no issues to date, I would rather encourage the utmost safety for all of you than take any risks. Thank you!

    • @woodworkerroyer8497
      @woodworkerroyer8497 Před 3 lety +2

      How much does this help though? I want to use a die grinder with a 6g ac, but I'm not sure how much this would help the situation.

    • @randalljennings9956
      @randalljennings9956 Před 2 lety +3

      THIS IS A 100 lb propane tank. This tank is IN FACT AN OLD MISSILE SHELL FROM PEARL HARBOR AND THE PROPANE INDUSTRY TURNED THEM INTO TANKS. I'm sure. Ask the video creator what is the date at the top of this tank and he'll tell you anywhere from 1948 to 1960. This tank with hold AT LEAST 300 psi as the pressure relief valve on a propane tank pops off at 250 psi. Sorry for the long response but by being in the propane industry for almost 15 years, I thought this was crazy cool when I learned that info!!!

    • @videowatcher495
      @videowatcher495 Před 2 lety +1

      You can get tanks tested at many gas companies (like AIR Gas) for a fee. A fee is better than having a tank fail on you.

    • @TheJcperla
      @TheJcperla Před 2 lety +2

      It is terrifying that you are aware of the risks and still use it. Compromised tanks can kill with no warning.

    • @802Garage
      @802Garage  Před 2 lety +2

      @@TheJcperla *Sigh.* This is a thick walled tank intended for high pressure gases and it is not going to split at a seam or anything like that. It had a pinhole leak from rust and were it going to explode from said leak it would have before I welded it back up. It sat around for years leaking gradually and never caused an explosion. It's only being filled to 125 PSI and even if you punched a big hole in it the tank is so heavy it would probably just fall over. If you heated this tank enough for it to explode with incredible force, then the degradation it has experienced thus far would not even be an important factor. If anything it might make it fail more safely by having a small hole to relieve pressure gradually. People see one thing on the internet about an air tank exploding and suddenly think they are experts. It's not that simple. This tank is not going to kill anybody unless someone tries to pressurize it to 2000 PSI and then shoots it. Even if it was a thin walled tank with a welded seam, unless the seam is what was rusting out, I'd tell you the same thing, because 125 PSI won't cause a pinhole from rust to turn into a gaping hole. Think about it. It literally causes the tank to leak down incredibly gradually and as the hole slowly grows over time it will only leak down faster. It will never reach a point of being explosive. /rant

  • @brettheller9257
    @brettheller9257 Před 5 lety +3

    I have a 60 gallon setting across my garage from my compressor with plain old air hose. Then on top of that I put an 80 Gallon tank up in the rafters in my garage and I run the entire system at 180 PSI and the air tank on my compressor is also an 80 Gallon. I run a sand blaster and need all the volume I can get. My compressor is a Porter Cable 220 volt single phase single lung belt driven. Been running this set up for over 15 years Knock on wood I have never blown a hose or a tank. I do however have an issue with drying the air. I really cannot afford an air dryer. I only do painting, polishing and sand blasting for myself but then again I am in Michigan the land of rust. I have done a couple small little things for some Amish friends that in trade give me veggies out of the garden or some fine cuts of pork or beef when they slaughter. Great Video man i will be subscribing. Thanks.

    • @802Garage
      @802Garage  Před 5 lety

      Wow badass setup! Thanks for the view and comment for sure. I really want to get a sand blaster in the near future. Volume definitely going to be a pain. Lots of waiting on refill. Moisture separation definitely an issue here in VT too. More than feel you on the rust issues! May you never blow a line. ;)

  • @brandonalderson2650
    @brandonalderson2650 Před 6 lety +5

    Ok I just saw this, I bought mine over 12 yrs ago, same one, and never have any issues, they are awesome and I turned mine up to 165 psi, tank is rated for 170-175 psi, love mine

    • @802Garage
      @802Garage  Před 6 lety +1

      That's great! I should figure out how to turn mine up. The 125 PSI doesn't really cut it for me.
      I like mine overall, but it doesn't start worth a damn below freezing. I usually have to heat the oil and cylinder with a torch. XD

  • @MrBod4life
    @MrBod4life Před 3 lety +9

    Man I am so appreciative for you making this video! I added an aux tank to my harborfreight 21 gallon and I was getting crazy PSI drops and couldn't figure it out. I had my tool hose going out from the aux and forgot the regulator! so much thanks bro! now its running like a champ and pressure stable!

    • @802Garage
      @802Garage  Před 3 lety +1

      Awesome thanks for the comment!

    • @Anth4044
      @Anth4044 Před rokem

      Do you get more CFM ADDING THE TANK??

    • @isabellaandivanasspoiledli5630
      @isabellaandivanasspoiledli5630 Před rokem +1

      ​@Anthony Aguilar no you don't. Just more volume. What I did to increase cfm on my ridgid 150psi was add another husky 8gallon from marketplace air compressor for 70 bucks (150 psi) and bought an additional 11 gal from harbor...
      Connected them all.... more than doubled my cfm and 4xs the volume while changing 1/4 hoses to 3/8 and using HIgh flow fittings

    • @Anth4044
      @Anth4044 Před rokem +1

      @@isabellaandivanasspoiledli5630 Thank you so much for taking the time to get back to me. I'm definitely going to add another tank infact my neighbor is giving me his husky 30 Gallon tank and I will be adding that to my 20 gallon hausfeld. You really know your stuff I really enjoyed your video also 👍💯

    • @mrmotofy
      @mrmotofy Před rokem +1

      @@isabellaandivanasspoiledli5630 The cfm is from the compressor, adding tanks adds capacity for more runtime before pump runs. Adding capacity can also damage the motor/pumps from running too long and overheating. They frequently have a short duty cycle for that reason.

  • @charlesgraham9954
    @charlesgraham9954 Před 6 lety +10

    i did the same thing just alil different.. it works so well i painted my lil Chevy S10 with no problems. plenty of valium to paint it with.

    • @802Garage
      @802Garage  Před 6 lety +2

      That's awesome! Hoping I can do painting in the future with a similar setup.

    • @randalljennings9956
      @randalljennings9956 Před 2 lety

      If you need VALIUM to paint..... lol

  • @danilosilva81
    @danilosilva81 Před rokem +21

    Functionally operates just as it should czcams.com/users/postUgkxiiMg_x4gIWeXMWfBnDdRnME4qJUAva4w holds pressure perfectly when not in use. Glad one of the other reviews pointed out that the bottom pressure release valve was open; thought it was defective at first.

  • @themeziccos1603
    @themeziccos1603 Před 6 lety +5

    Best explained and easiest to understand.
    I have been trying to find a safe way to add for sand blasting.
    Thanks

    • @802Garage
      @802Garage  Před 6 lety +1

      No problem at all! This isn't a "perfect" setup, but it works. Let me know if you want to discuss any improvements or need tips for setup. Just note that you should also include a drain on the auxiliary tank if possible.

  • @roachlarry1488
    @roachlarry1488 Před 3 lety +9

    Man if it's already got a hole in it, I'd scrap it. To telling when that hole is gonna open up and you have a heavy metal rocket going thru the ceiling. Be safe brotha

    • @802Garage
      @802Garage  Před 3 lety +4

      I appreciate it, but this was years ago and it's still fine. If it fails it will be a slow leak not a catastrophic blowout. I haven't been using it lately anyways though. Thanks for the concern! I won't recommend anyone else do the same haha.

    • @eastin6868
      @eastin6868 Před 3 lety +2

      No scrapping it. Just fix the hole.

    • @802Garage
      @802Garage  Před 3 lety +2

      @@eastin6868 Haha I did. Full send.

    • @sethlogan9724
      @sethlogan9724 Před 3 lety +3

      Heavy Metal Rocket is music I don't (wanna) play. Be safe!

    • @802Garage
      @802Garage  Před 3 lety +3

      @@sethlogan9724 The chances of that happening at these pressure with a slow leak are incredibly low if not zero, but I appreciate the concern. I recommend everyone use sound tanks with pressure relief valves and keep it in a separate room. 😁

  • @jesseschumacher4080
    @jesseschumacher4080 Před 5 lety +3

    Love all the links in the description. Some people say they’ll be there and they aren’t so it’s hard to find the right stuff. Great simple vid, this was the design I was wanting to do but couldn’t find another video with the same simple design that also listed parts.

    • @802Garage
      @802Garage  Před 5 lety +2

      Glad to help! I try to be pretty diligent with my links. I actually updated these fairly recently too. Love the push to connect style fittings! You can get some of these components cheaper if you shop certain local stores, but Amazon is so convenient, hah.

  • @matthewtoskov4113
    @matthewtoskov4113 Před 5 lety +3

    It makes a world of a difference with an extra tank got the same air compressor went to Harbor Freight bought a 11 gallon portable air tank they call it took the fittings off of that ran a line know I have a 32 gallon tank

    • @802Garage
      @802Garage  Před 5 lety

      Yeah, it actually makes a huge difference! I'm going to be upgrading to a California Air Tools compressor because I'm sick of the noise the Harbor Freight compressor makes. That, and a reed valve finally went bad in mine. I replaced it with an old feeler gauge cut down to size, but who knows how long it will last. Replacement kits are cheap, but I want the new compressor anyways!

  • @blizteredthumbs7911
    @blizteredthumbs7911 Před 3 měsíci +1

    You should have done a slow mo rizz intro with that prince charming hair bro! You'd make a lot of women jealous with the mop. Cheers for the video.. 6 years later 😁

    • @802Garage
      @802Garage  Před 3 měsíci +1

      Hahaha thank you! It was quite a look. ;)

    • @blizteredthumbs7911
      @blizteredthumbs7911 Před 3 měsíci +1

      @@802Garage happily married red blooded male but even I got jealous and yet my hair is short lol

    • @802Garage
      @802Garage  Před 3 měsíci

      @@blizteredthumbs7911 Bahahaha mine is pretty short right now, but I used to just give less of a dang.

  • @newfieguy75
    @newfieguy75 Před 6 lety +3

    My buddy did this with a hot water boiler and it works awesome

  • @aaronpowell4885
    @aaronpowell4885 Před 4 lety +3

    I know I'm 3 years late😂 great idea! As for your cold starting issue, a while back I purchased the 8 gallon version at harbor freight to have as a portable unit as tossing the 60 gallon 240v in the truck and going is out of the question. Since break in on the 8 gallon I've used husky full synthetic compressor oil which is equivalent to a sae 20w and have had no issues with start up down to 21 degrees F so far!

    • @802Garage
      @802Garage  Před 4 lety +1

      Hello fellow Aaron!
      I was using Royal Purple Synpower and I think it's an SAE 30, but seems to run a bit thick. I've actually switched to full synthetic 5W-30 engine oil and now I have zero cold start issues! Even at like 0F I think it was fine. This compressor is definitely getting old though and I dearly want to replace it. So loud!

    • @dannytaylor5932
      @dannytaylor5932 Před rokem

      ​@@802Garage I was taught that the "direct drive" are the super loud ones, and the ones with belt, pulley, etc. Are quiet. Seems to always ring true in my experience. And yes, loud one, they are OBNOXIOUS!!

    • @802Garage
      @802Garage  Před rokem

      @@dannytaylor5932 Yep I think as a general rule you are correct! Although some of the newer direct drive designs are intended to be quiet like the California air tools and they seem to work pretty well.

    • @dannytaylor5932
      @dannytaylor5932 Před rokem +1

      @@802Garage Niiice!!! See good looking out cuz I stay away from em but I'll start looking now.

    • @802Garage
      @802Garage  Před rokem

      @@dannytaylor5932 Yeah check out some reviews and videos on the new quiet compressors they are pretty nuts.

  • @stevenA44
    @stevenA44 Před 2 lety +2

    First of all, I wouldn't suggest an oil-less compressor to anyone. I just bought a Porter Cable oil filled compressor at Tractor Supply and I think it's great. I wanted an oil filled because it will last longer than one that it oil-less. It's not that loud either. I have a Campbell Hausefield 1 gallon pancake compressor and it is much louder than my 24 gallon Porter Cable I just bought. I have an 11 gallon air tank that I bought a few years ago when I was trying to get more air for an air tool I have that I am now going to use with the 24 gallon,too bad I can't come up with a way to mount the air tank to the compressor.

    • @802Garage
      @802Garage  Před 2 lety

      There are a lot of good oilless and quite options now that are affordable! California Air Tools, Hulk by EMAX, many other similar designs. That said if you're doing a ton of heavy duty work, probably still best to go with a big cast iron oiled unit. Believe it or not, this compressor is still kicking, but I have had to replace the reed valves with old feeler gauges I cut up a few times now. Finally bought a legitimate replacement set. Really want to upgrade soon though. Don't think there is any easy way to mount that extra tank, but could just go with a few ratchet straps? Thanks for the comment!

  • @RoyalKingA73
    @RoyalKingA73 Před 6 lety +2

    Watching this video because it was suggested in your latest video. Once again, very detailed. Thank you.

    • @802Garage
      @802Garage  Před 6 lety

      You're very welcome! I like doing these general workshop vids, but only have the funds to do so much. You might enjoy my Eastwood welder videos too!

  • @wyosundancer
    @wyosundancer Před 4 lety +4

    Doing the same thing with an old compressor tank. I added a check valve between the air compressor and auxilary tank. Also a pressure relief valve on the auxilary tank, for safety. Total additional cost about $15.

    • @802Garage
      @802Garage  Před 4 lety +2

      Definitely recommended! Wish I had been a bit more thorough in this video. :)

  • @maldoggseekmangi5964
    @maldoggseekmangi5964 Před 2 lety +2

    Gotta love it !!👌🏽👍🏽..very thorough in the set up .certainly helped me a lot. Cheers!.

    • @802Garage
      @802Garage  Před 2 lety

      You're welcome thanks for the comment!

  • @Rahminater
    @Rahminater Před 6 lety +5

    You should remove the quick disconnect fittings by your extra tank and hook it up direct and it'll fill up faster

    • @802Garage
      @802Garage  Před 6 lety +6

      The only issue with that is then I have to move them as a unit instead of being able to disconnect them. Unless I misunderstand what you mean.

    • @bca2070
      @bca2070 Před rokem

      ​@@802Garageuse black iron fittings and put a couple unions with it

  • @mr.h4714
    @mr.h4714 Před 6 lety +18

    Extra volume is great..be aware though, one thing people don't often realize is that small compressors like that are not meant to fill that much tank volume....it's a choice you as the compressor owner has to make
    The compressor will run way longer than it is intended to in order to fill the extra volume.... This may move your compressor beyond it's intended duty cycle and shorten it's life under heavy use..... something to think about..

    • @802Garage
      @802Garage  Před 6 lety +8

      Absolutely right. It's definitely pushing it past its usual duty cycle. Should have mentioned that in the video. In this case, it's a cheap compressor anyways, and if it fails I plan to upgrade. Would certainly hurt the wallet though. thanks for watching and commenting!

    • @fawkurface46
      @fawkurface46 Před 6 lety +7

      I imagine that is more of an issue when the holding tank is empty and the compressor has to run like a raped ape until it hits full pressure. But once it's filled the normal duty cycle while still being longer, should be slight. Maybe going from a 30 second cycle to a 45 second cycle.

    • @jcruz9665
      @jcruz9665 Před 5 lety +3

      @@ryanmalueg smart idea but some might not understand

    • @cowboybear010
      @cowboybear010 Před 5 lety +9

      @Jay Gomez True, but then they shouldn't be attempting this project.

    • @jonosterman2878
      @jonosterman2878 Před 5 lety +11

      Something to think about: It isn't the tank or the compressor, it is the job it is used for. It doesn't matter to the compressor if you fill up 40 gal to use the exact same volume of air for a job as you would with a 20 gallon tank capacity. The compressor is going to compress the exact same amount of air, either way. The difference will be that the 40 gal set up will allow the compressor to have actual rest time, rather than on continuous cycle. If you ask me, I would rather have the compressor get some rest while working a job, rather than have it run continuous the entire time.

  • @garywinters2282
    @garywinters2282 Před 6 lety +4

    I'm not a fan of a reserve air tank without a safety valve. I use a 24 gallon C/H compressor tank as my reserve air tank to supplement my 30 gallon compressor. Being on wheels it makes a handy mobile air tank as well.

    • @802Garage
      @802Garage  Před 6 lety +1

      As in a safety valve like the one on the compressor? I'm not disagreeing at all and safety should always be paramount. The one reason I didn't think it was necessary is my auxiliary will never be higher pressure than my compressor. Plus air can actually flow back to the compressor as long as it's connected. Would the safety valve be more for situations like if the tank were to be damaged or get hot? Also I could definitely use some wheels for mine. Hahaha.

    • @garywinters2282
      @garywinters2282 Před 6 lety +3

      @@802Garage I have really as a fail safe if ever the one on the compressor failed. Also it was on the reserve air tanks manifold so I left it. The wheels are handy, 24 gallons of air pressure at 140psi to air up large tractor tires. 😉

    • @802Garage
      @802Garage  Před 6 lety +1

      Yep! Makes sense to me.

  • @leonvdm
    @leonvdm Před 4 lety +3

    Confirms my thoughts, I'll go with a T-fitting just before the regulator. Safes me the extra coupling and regulator. Still need the ball joint .
    Thanks

    • @802Garage
      @802Garage  Před 4 lety

      Makes sense to me! Good luck. Remember it's best practice to use a container in good shape with no rust, and to add an emergency release valve and drain fitting. :)

  • @joseacd01
    @joseacd01 Před 3 lety +2

    I'm definitely doing this I have a 6.1 horsepower 33gal compressor and 23 gallon tank = 56 gallon uff

  • @ScubaOffRoad
    @ScubaOffRoad Před 5 měsíci

    That compressor with the leak is a bomb waiting to go off

    • @802Garage
      @802Garage  Před 4 měsíci

      See pinned comment and replies.

  • @eksine
    @eksine Před rokem +1

    if you take it to a welder/ fabricator they could weld that hole shut for you or you could try to use JB weld or 2 part epoxy, that might work

    • @802Garage
      @802Garage  Před rokem

      I welded it and then filled the vessel with some paint and swirled it around the bottom.

    • @eksine
      @eksine Před rokem +1

      @@802Garage nice that should do it

    • @802Garage
      @802Garage  Před rokem

      @@eksine I haven't used it for a while but it worked for a long time.

  • @ericneering6357
    @ericneering6357 Před 2 lety

    I would recommend them I had mine for over 20 years never change your oil just drain the water out of it once a while and works great bought it to do roofs but now use it mostly to run an impact gun is a little under powered for air tools but good quality for the price. Less you need a portable do not buy an oil us their junk gets too hot I’ve had both 20 years I’ve been getting on my oil one

  • @dansilva501
    @dansilva501 Před 2 lety +2

    Great video . Answered a question a had .

  • @rodbarker2173
    @rodbarker2173 Před 5 dny +1

    Great video, just what I needed.

  • @Subi_doo
    @Subi_doo Před 6 lety +1

    Overall excellent information to get the auxiliary tank plumbed into the air system

    • @802Garage
      @802Garage  Před 6 lety +1

      Thanks a lot! I actually just spent the last 30 mins or so going through my air fittings and widening/smoothing the internal holes to get better air flow. My impact gun wasn't chooching as well as I needed.

  • @stanfreeman6380
    @stanfreeman6380 Před 6 lety +6

    I have two HF compressors one newer 10 gal. and older 3 gal never had a problem with them. I don't like the oilless ones they go bad quick.

    • @802Garage
      @802Garage  Před 6 lety +1

      The biggest problems I have had so far are really just noise, long fill time, quickly running out of air, and not working well in the cold. It has been reliable, just far from perfect. Not sure I would buy one again.
      Either way, your input is appreciated and good to know about the oilless HF units. Thanks for commenting!

    • @mainelyelectric
      @mainelyelectric Před 6 lety

      802 Garage I read the reviews and questions on the Lowes Kobalt 30 gallon Belt Drive compressor it has a great review and 3 year warranty I was thinking about getting one sometime in the near future because I need new compressor for my work and kobalt them self said they test it to duty cycle of 45 minutes continuous run but they recommend running it a 30 minute duty cycle. I know it is expensive compressor but belt drive compressors are known for their life span and I have had one at my home for at least 15 years though not kobalt brand and haven’t had any problems. it does not like the negative cold temperatures here in Maine though but I’ve been told by kobalt when I was looking at the questions that they recommend a full synthetic Mobile one version of oil and have been told Full synthetic is better in the cold. Though also my compressor doesn’t have full synthetic oil in it but I think it’s basically the motor is the issue because I have a bad start capacitor or a going start capacitor

  • @thomascody6416
    @thomascody6416 Před rokem +2

    Very cool got me looking for tank lol

    • @802Garage
      @802Garage  Před rokem

      Thanks! Read through the comments for some extra tips and info too and keep in mind compressors are rated for a certain duty cycle. :)

  • @casimirkotarba5186
    @casimirkotarba5186 Před rokem +1

    I just made one with an old kobalt tank,,It`s a frankenstien,,the regulator is from a pancake compressor,,,Instead of the shut off valve i used a "Check" valve,,,No leaks and holding 120 lbs for 2 days now

    • @802Garage
      @802Garage  Před rokem

      Hahaha if it works!

    • @casimirkotarba5186
      @casimirkotarba5186 Před rokem +1

      @@802Garage It works just fine,,,I used it on a job yesterday shooting popcorn on a ceiling where it had flaked off,,, And it worked fine

    • @casimirkotarba5186
      @casimirkotarba5186 Před rokem +1

      @@802Garage So you are saying,,,That ONLY your design will work ??? Or is it that someone else just used a "Better" and cheaper set up ???

    • @802Garage
      @802Garage  Před rokem

      @@casimirkotarba5186 Sorry I think my tone was lost. I was saying "If it works, it works!" Like, go for it! Sounds good to me. :)

  • @Dave-tw9ib
    @Dave-tw9ib Před 5 lety +1

    I have a 2 gallon small compressor. which works great, I want to add like a 10 gallon aux. my know it all friends both of them say it can't b done. I'm going to prove them wrong. I can't c why not. I will purchase the other fittings. which be b like $ 40.00 bucks those fittings r more than $ 25 u showed thank u soo much.

    • @802Garage
      @802Garage  Před 5 lety

      It can absolutely be done. Just keep in mind that the compressor will have to run approximately 6 times as long as usual to fill the now 12 gallon capacity. Every compressor has a rated duty cycle, essentially how many minutes per hour it should run, or how long it can run before needing a break of X time. Basically, if you are using the compressor heavily, you could wear it out prematurely by having it run for so long over and over. I did put links for tons of affordable fittings as well as tanks in the description, so feel free to check those out.

  • @eastin6868
    @eastin6868 Před 3 lety +2

    I have a an old high pressure oxygen cylinder i believe its around 240 cubic ft that i use as my aux air tank

    • @802Garage
      @802Garage  Před 3 lety +1

      Yeah, definitely it works especially if it was meant for much higher pressure!

    • @eastin6868
      @eastin6868 Před 3 lety +2

      @@802Garage it is one of my old cutting torch cylinders i use to use working on the road. I didnt want to get rid of it so i found a use for it since i have new bottles these days.

    • @802Garage
      @802Garage  Před 3 lety +2

      @@eastin6868 I'd do the same! It's def rated for far more pressure than an air compressor can put out.

  • @Scott-xc5sg
    @Scott-xc5sg Před 3 lety +3

    You def have an issue with no condensation drain in the auxiliary tank. Unless of course you have a drain you didn’t mention. That rusted tank with the tiny hole with be a rusted tank with a massive hole in the near future. I recommend finding the leak in the tank and drilling a hole around 1/2 inch. Then welding a 1/4” NPT pipe coupler over that hole and installing a simple drain system. If the leak is in the side of the tank, just turn the tank sideways on a stand you can fabricate for it. Maybe even two wheels and a handle or some kind of cart to hold both that allows the aux tank to sit on it’s side. If the leak is in the bottom, the very bottom... you’ve got it made. Just install drain system as mentioned.
    Edit: just noticed how old this vid is. I’m curious if the tank has failed or exploded by now if you didn’t install a drain. I guess you could have it hooked up to a dryer but doesn’t look that way from vid.

    • @802Garage
      @802Garage  Před 3 lety

      Nope tank hasn't exploded. Even if it did fail again, given the thickness of this tank and the pressures I'm working with, it would be pin holes again that gradually enlarge. Can always just invert the tank occasionally. I did pour paint in after welding up the holes to help prevent such an issue. Agreed though, installing a drain would be the move!

    • @Scott-xc5sg
      @Scott-xc5sg Před 3 lety +1

      @@802Garage LOL that’s actually a simple solution that never crossed my mind. Using the intake as a drain lmao. But tell the other guys on CZcams that 125 PSI won’t turn a tank into a bomb. I think you’re most likely right tho. It prob won’t explode, I was just worried it could.

    • @Scott-xc5sg
      @Scott-xc5sg Před 3 lety +1

      And thanks for the reply. 🙏🏻

    • @802Garage
      @802Garage  Před 3 lety

      @@Scott-xc5sg You're welcome! I did quite a bit of research into the topic of exploding air tanks and I got tons of comments on it of course. Basically, it's a rare occurrence, though thay doesn't mean you shouldn't be cautious. That said, in order for the tank to violently rupture there has to be a point of cascading failure like a seam weld or end cap. If tiny rust pinholes start in the bottom of the tank again like it had before, it will just start to slowly leak out moisture and then air and won't even stay pressurized. That's exactly how it acted before I fixed the hole. I could air up the tank and it would keep pressure for hours, but if I came back the next day it would be at about half and eventually it would leak all the way down. Get what I am saying? If the tank was going to suddenly explode from having a tiny rust hole, it would have done it one of the numerous times I aired it up while the hole already existed. Plus, if a hole did open in the bottom of this tank, it would have to be extremely large to actually have a chance of propelling the tank upward for example, and it certainly wouldn't blow out the whole bottom at once. More likely it would just open up a whole the size of a pinhole to a toothpick and make some annoying noise and dust. I do think people should be cautious of course, but I think the exploding air tank flag waving is a bit overdone. Not knocking you at all by the way and I always appreciate people looking out for safety.

    • @bca2070
      @bca2070 Před 2 lety

      I've heard the reason tanks do explode is because some people empty the tank and re pressurize constantly.

  • @ronaldturner8319
    @ronaldturner8319 Před 2 lety +1

    I have a 30 gal snap on compressor that works. I have a campbell and huasfeld 60 gal that I can't find parts for can you tell me how to hook them up together. So i wont run out of air Thanks .

  • @tnasituning8173
    @tnasituning8173 Před rokem +2

    Recently just got the 29 Gallon CENTRAL NEUMATIC 150 PSI Portable Air Compressor and am doing the 11 gallon portable reservoir tank so ill have 40 gallons, but I'd honestly like to have an additional 29, 30 or 33 reservoir tank to get me at the 60 gallon capacity (which seems to be GREAT for painting cars and running pretty much near anything, and theres also the 80 gallon tanks as well that are beasts)
    Anyways I also have the DeWalt Quadraport Air Line Splitter that has 2 ports both REGULATED and 2 ports that are NON REGULATED... Anyhow, im trying to figure out the best placement for the reservoir tank ...

    • @802Garage
      @802Garage  Před rokem

      Ideally you want the reserve tank and compressor tank to share an unregulated line and then wherever you attach your regulated and unregulated ports it doesn't matter. You could also attach your splitter directly to the compressor and attach one unregulated line to the reserve tank leaving one unregulated and two regulated lines for use. Hope that makes sense. Both tanks should also have their pressure leading to a pressure relieve valve, be it one common or two separate.

  • @mikehendrix6558
    @mikehendrix6558 Před 3 lety +2

    My concern would be as follows. How do you drain water from the auxiliary tank????

    • @802Garage
      @802Garage  Před 3 lety +1

      Get a drain. In my case I just invert the tank once in a while.

  • @fernvasquez166
    @fernvasquez166 Před 6 lety +2

    thanks so much...quick simple and easy...great video...

    • @802Garage
      @802Garage  Před 6 lety

      No problem! Hope it helps. :)

  • @DTNelson55
    @DTNelson55 Před 4 lety +2

    Thank you for making this

    • @802Garage
      @802Garage  Před 4 lety

      Thanks for the comment! Let me know if you have any questions.

  • @markshone4606
    @markshone4606 Před 2 lety +2

    With extra tank does compressor still switch off at its recommended setting

    • @802Garage
      @802Garage  Před 2 lety +1

      Yes, it will just take longer to reach that level. This can exceed the duty cycle of the compressor. So be careful how large a tank you use.

  • @Hipsters_N_Hippies
    @Hipsters_N_Hippies Před 3 lety +1

    It Needed 3/8” sized couplers that are 1/4” Npt treaded. (Like Milton Gstyle.)
    And it need led the tee turned sideways so it exits in a straight line out. Without the 90deg turn.
    And loctite as the tread sealer. Not tape, or dope. Loctite is actually king. Go figure...

  • @apjack2553
    @apjack2553 Před 2 lety +1

    Trying to add a cap to an axillary air tank/compressor. A 3/8 SAE flare cap barely slips over it the non-tappered male tank fitting. Any idea?

    • @mrmotofy
      @mrmotofy Před rokem

      Flared fittings only work with other flared. Others are mostly NPT or regular pipe thread.

  • @wwmilanl
    @wwmilanl Před rokem

    Great video and Thanks, I will record you to add a security relief valve line the one that is on the compressor only for cases where for any reason the pressure passes the recommended for that compressor. Thanks

  • @shatnersufolanded7785
    @shatnersufolanded7785 Před 9 měsíci

    Your fill in that old LP tank has a pretty small hole inside the full valve if you remove it and get another fitting that will open up the fill volume much quicker.

    • @802Garage
      @802Garage  Před 9 měsíci

      Good idea thanks. I figured I was pretty limited by my hose size anyways, but if I went to a larger orifice and hose it would def be a great power battery if you will.

  • @timenloe703
    @timenloe703 Před 3 lety +4

    How are you draining the moisture from extra tank.?

    • @802Garage
      @802Garage  Před 3 lety +4

      In this case I just disconnect it and invert it once and a while, but it would be best to add a drain.

  • @johnnylongchallon740
    @johnnylongchallon740 Před 4 lety +4

    It be much safe with a pressure relief valve

    • @802Garage
      @802Garage  Před 4 lety +2

      It has one on the Harbor Freight tank, but ideally it should have one on the external tank as well, yes.

  • @gergemall
    @gergemall Před 6 lety +2

    Thanks for your video. Very helpful.

    • @802Garage
      @802Garage  Před 6 lety

      No problem. Thanks for comment!

  • @papergatorzfedducca7998
    @papergatorzfedducca7998 Před 3 lety +2

    I did this minus the second regulator but my motor still kicks on quick. I’ll use my da sander on it for about 2 minutes straight and then the more still turns on. Is that normal or what do I need to do different? I don’t want to burn my motor out. My air regulator is on my Husky 19 gallon if that will help you answer my question. Thanks

    • @802Garage
      @802Garage  Před 3 lety +2

      By not adding the second regulator, you are limiting the capacity of your auxiliary tank to however much air It holds at the pressure of your regulator on your compressor. So you should really get the second regulator to maximize your auxiliary capacity. That said, it sounds like your compressor really just doesn't have the CFM rating or max pressure rating to keep up with your sander. Eventually you will want to upgrade. Check with the CFM requirement of the sander is versus your compressor and if the sander requires more, then you should make sure you give your compressor a break sometimes.

    • @papergatorzfedducca7998
      @papergatorzfedducca7998 Před 3 lety +2

      @@802Garage ok great and thanks for the reply. Will the second regulator prolong my motor from turning on so quick?

    • @802Garage
      @802Garage  Před 3 lety +1

      @@papergatorzfedducca7998 As long as you turn up the first regulator to higher than the second, yes.

    • @papergatorzfedducca7998
      @papergatorzfedducca7998 Před 3 lety +2

      @@802Garage thank you!!!!

    • @802Garage
      @802Garage  Před 3 lety +1

      @@papergatorzfedducca7998 You're welcome!

  • @smokeybear390
    @smokeybear390 Před 6 lety +2

    I think plumbing it through the safety valve is better

    • @802Garage
      @802Garage  Před 6 lety +1

      That's a really good point! I'll look into that in the future and maybe make an updated video. If I set it up the way I'd prefer with a T before the first regulator, it would function that way I believe. Thanks for the comment.

  • @DeltaThreeOne
    @DeltaThreeOne Před 2 lety +1

    Very helpful, thank you

  • @Hipsters_N_Hippies
    @Hipsters_N_Hippies Před 3 lety

    Needed 3/8” sized couplers that are 1/4” Npt treaded. (Like Milton Gstyle.)
    And need tee turned sideways so it exits in a straight line out. Without the 90deg turn.
    And loctite as the tread sealer. Not tape, or dope.

  • @goliath9081
    @goliath9081 Před 2 lety +1

    Great video

  • @LouisDePalma-id8yy
    @LouisDePalma-id8yy Před 6 měsíci

    You need a dryer and water separator ,an auto drain, and hook your hoses up direct without couplers.
    You can also drill out the quick connects to make them hi flow

  • @Volvonauts
    @Volvonauts Před 7 lety +2

    I was going to comment in the last video on your standby tank I see someone else did ...good stuff! now show us that cart with the cutting torch tanks🤔🤔

    • @802Garage
      @802Garage  Před 7 lety +1

      That's actually ancient junk that isn't mine. Somebody made it out of angle iron and left over wheels though. Pretty cool, but it weighs a ton.

  • @paulbrandao795
    @paulbrandao795 Před 5 lety +2

    purchase a plug in block heater and it will work in the winter thats what I did Ill give you the part #

    • @802Garage
      @802Garage  Před 5 lety

      You know... I had thought about that before, but for some reason never even looked it up, hahaha. A suggested item would be great! If I'm still using the compressor this winter, I'll def get one.

  • @charlesgraham9954
    @charlesgraham9954 Před 6 lety +2

    there is a screw under that plastic next to ur reg that u can turn up to take is past 125

    • @802Garage
      @802Garage  Před 6 lety

      May have to play with it just a little. ;)
      Wonder how long it will last though!
      Thanks for the tip, sorry for delay.

    • @jonosterman2878
      @jonosterman2878 Před 5 lety

      @@802Garage That's not a great idea. There is a good reason why there is a giant 125 max sign on the compressor, and it is not so end users can ignore it.

    • @802Garage
      @802Garage  Před 5 lety +1

      @@jonosterman2878 What exactly is the reason? I actually know all the reasons, I'm just wondering what you actually think will happen.

  • @aircooledhead
    @aircooledhead Před 3 lety +2

    Question: Can I feed my air tools from the slave/expansion tank? My old 20 gal compressor died, so I’m buying a new, 60 gal compressor. Due to space restrictions and outlet placement, it’s easier to have the new compressor feed the smaller tank, which is connected to my air dryer system.
    Will this work?

    • @802Garage
      @802Garage  Před 3 lety

      Yes it will work you just need a regulator on your auxiliary tank. That said, I doubt you'll need the extra tank with your new compressor. Sounds like a massive upgrade. Unless you do constant work with air tools!

    • @aircooledhead
      @aircooledhead Před 3 lety +2

      @@802Garage Really, I don’t. But the smaller tank is already connected to the air drier. Easier NOT to move them.

    • @802Garage
      @802Garage  Před 3 lety

      @@aircooledhead Ah makes sense! Yeah just add another regulator then. 😁

  • @szymoozz
    @szymoozz Před 5 lety +1

    Hmm I just added to my Makita portable compressor with a 10 gal aux tank for spraying paint. Really good idea about puting a t in the line before the compressors reg. I was also wondering if I can raise the psi at which the comp shuts off. should avoid running any motor that pulls more that 15 amps on any extension cord if at all possible

    • @802Garage
      @802Garage  Před 5 lety +1

      Def agreed an avoiding extension cord if possible! Typically you can adjust the regulator to raise the PSI for both cut in and cut off. Usually some screws you can adjust under the switch cover. Just keep in mind you will be adding stress to the motor and likely increasing overall duty cycle usage. Especially for something like painting, you may wear the compressor out much faster. Basically a your mileage may vary and do at your own risk set of mods!

  • @redbaron2448
    @redbaron2448 Před 3 lety +2

    So where do you put the hose for your tools? Harbor Freight or the other tank? Also do you have a list of parts you bought for that set up? Thanks

    • @802Garage
      @802Garage  Před 3 lety

      Well in this case on the extra tank. That's why it has the T junction with a regulator. You can buy pretty much everything I used at Harbor Freight or online. The exact fittings you'll need will vary, but I linked a ton in the description. Please check those out.

    • @redbaron2448
      @redbaron2448 Před 3 lety +1

      @@802Garage ok great, thank you

    • @802Garage
      @802Garage  Před 3 lety

      @@redbaron2448 You're welcome.

  • @rharris7877
    @rharris7877 Před 6 lety +1

    I have the sam HF AIR I COMPRESSOR....I want to do the same thing but my question is ...how or what keeps the auxiliary tank from over filling form the HF AIR COMPRESSOR... In other words keep it from exploding do I put a regulator on both sides the of the auxiliary air compressor input & on the output ..but for the output Definitely use a Regulator that's going directly to the tools to regulate the air pressure...
    Now especially on the input into Auxiliary air tanks i want to have the Harbor freight air compressor cut off when the auxiliary tank reaches it full air pressure.......what are you suggesting....thanks

    • @802Garage
      @802Garage  Před 6 lety +1

      Hello, thanks for commenting! You don't actually need to worry about the auxiliary tank overfilling. The air compressor will still stop filling when it reaches its max capacity, in this case 135. Therefore, the auxiliary tank will never go over 135 PSI. In my case I also have an inline regulator so that I can keep the auxiliary tank lower than 135 PSI if I want. Hope this helps!

  • @mike559k
    @mike559k Před 2 lety +1

    Not bad..thanks

  • @nelsonramos2218
    @nelsonramos2218 Před rokem +1

    Awesome

  • @antdo
    @antdo Před 7 lety +2

    I need to do this. My HF compressor runs out way to fast lol.

    • @802Garage
      @802Garage  Před 7 lety

      It's definitely helpful! Look around in Craigslist or Facebook Marketplace for old air tanks or broken compressors and your can probably do the whole setup really cheap.

  • @randalljennings9956
    @randalljennings9956 Před 2 lety +2

    This is a 23.7 gallon propane tank

  • @LastExile1989
    @LastExile1989 Před 5 lety +1

    How'd you know I'd watch this at night????????

    • @802Garage
      @802Garage  Před 5 lety

      Hah, had to watch the end of the vid just to know if I said have a good night or something. XD
      Guess I made this video specifically for Asian people. Thanks for watching the whole thing!

  • @wac36
    @wac36 Před 3 lety +2

    With tank valve open, and compressor running, does it remain full pressure or does the compressor not fill quick enough?

    • @802Garage
      @802Garage  Před 3 lety +1

      This compressor definitely won't keep up with that. You would need something with insane CFM.

  • @pbaylis1
    @pbaylis1 Před 5 lety +4

    Would it be advisable to add a separate pressure release valve to the auxilliary tank?

    • @802Garage
      @802Garage  Před 5 lety

      That depends on how you have it all routed, because as long as it is hooked to the compressor, it could never exceed the pressure in the compressor, so there is already a safety valve in play. To be extra safe though, yes it would be smart to have a safety valve on the auxiliary as well, especially if it is portable.

    • @johndowe7003
      @johndowe7003 Před 5 lety +2

      yea on my build i have one on. its on my channel if you wanna see how i did mine

  • @duartepaintinghandymanservices

    should you have a relief valve on your other tank?

    • @802Garage
      @802Garage  Před 5 lety

      Why? Genuine question. Multiple people have suggested that, but both tanks are linked together and there is already a relief valve on the compressor. It is impossible for the secondary tank to exceed the pressure of the primary.

    • @duartepaintinghandymanservices
      @duartepaintinghandymanservices Před 5 lety +2

      802 Garage ok just wondering

    • @802Garage
      @802Garage  Před 5 lety +2

      Oh I'm sorry I actually misread your comment. I thought you said "you should have" and followed by the question mark I thought maybe you were being rude. My bad!

  • @kennygee2715
    @kennygee2715 Před 7 měsíci +1

    I recently got rid of a 33 gallon tank because it was over 20 years old and I got it used 10 years ago and it had a lot of rust in it. I was concerned over the safety of a rusted tank. I don't want it to rupture. Do you know how must rust is in your tank?

    • @802Garage
      @802Garage  Před 7 měsíci

      I mean always good to err on the safe side. In my case the tank is thick enough and holding low enough pressure the chance of any catastrophic rupture is very low IMO. Thick tanks rated for compressed gas can handle air compressor pressures no problem. The thin walled seam welded tanks are the ones that like to explode from rust. That's my understanding at least. Mine def had rust at the bottom inside because it had the pinholes, but I welded them and filled the bottom with paint. I haven't used it for several years now but it still holds air fine.

    • @kennygee2715
      @kennygee2715 Před 7 měsíci

      Oh OK. I didn't know it was for compressed gas. however the pinholes sound scary. Check out on youtube the aftermath of compressor tank explosions. the amount of energy stored in a compressed tank is astonishing. When they blow apart they knock doors off the hinges and things like that. I tend to err on the side of safety because you only get one set of eyes, one life etc. @@802Garage

  • @mosoworks619
    @mosoworks619 Před 3 lety +1

    Good video. Subscribed

    • @802Garage
      @802Garage  Před 3 lety +1

      Ey thank you! I'll be releasing a lot more informational content like this soon. :)

  • @bcouri1
    @bcouri1 Před 5 lety +2

    Watched about 15 videos and nobody can say what the size of the fitting is that goes directly from the air tank. I've heard it's 3/4 npt but can you confirm please

    • @802Garage
      @802Garage  Před 5 lety

      Do you mean the fitting on the harbor freight tank if you remove the factory regulator?

    • @bcouri1
      @bcouri1 Před 5 lety +2

      @@802Garage no, the hole on top of the propane tank with no fittings installed

    • @802Garage
      @802Garage  Před 5 lety +1

      Just went and measured and yes mine is 3/4 NPT, as the threads at the base are just over an inch OD. Looked it up to make sure I measured right.

    • @bcouri1
      @bcouri1 Před 5 lety +1

      @@802Garage thank you so much

    • @802Garage
      @802Garage  Před 5 lety +1

      No problem! Hope it's right.

  • @VWPassat_3BG
    @VWPassat_3BG Před 6 lety +2

    Can i use my auxiliary tank just to store air in it? I mean i have a 24ltr air compressor and i have a 50ltr tank (auxiliary) just to make in total 74ltr as a "whole" tanks

    • @802Garage
      @802Garage  Před 6 lety +1

      Yeah for sure. It should be periodically drained to make sure moisture isn't an issue. Other than that you can store air.

  • @stephendoing2253
    @stephendoing2253 Před rokem

    It's a time bomb!

  • @Boost_Addict
    @Boost_Addict Před rokem +1

    how many gallons is the aux tank? love the setup

    • @802Garage
      @802Garage  Před rokem

      Not sure. I would guess 30 gallons. Appreciate it!

  • @woodybatter3896
    @woodybatter3896 Před 3 lety +2

    Tried that. I didn’t clean the tank out so everything smelled like propane.

    • @802Garage
      @802Garage  Před 3 lety

      Haha hadn't heard that one before.

  • @Pushyhog
    @Pushyhog Před 4 lety +1

    thanks much

    • @802Garage
      @802Garage  Před 4 lety

      You're welcome and thank you.

  • @stevenb.182
    @stevenb.182 Před rokem +1

    How do you drain the water (condensation) from the large auxiliary tank ? I would like to do this, but......

    • @802Garage
      @802Garage  Před rokem

      Generally you would tap it and add a drain valve if it didn't already have one. When I was using it I would just disconnect and invert the tank occasionally.

  • @kike631
    @kike631 Před 11 měsíci

    Nice 😮

  • @mrmotofy
    @mrmotofy Před rokem

    MOST of your tools will run just fine at 125psi. Regulator not really needed other than maybe painting etc. Most auto shops run at 175psi no regulators

  • @AXNJXN1
    @AXNJXN1 Před 2 lety

    Smart!

  • @briandale5645
    @briandale5645 Před 8 měsíci

    How long does it take to fill that tank . How long does your compressor have to run . Has this set harmed your harbor freight freight compressor?

  • @SkyeNott
    @SkyeNott Před 4 lety +2

    Hi, great vid I’m doing the same with an old tire inflation tank. In the video you say the reducer and tee are 3/8 but it looks like the tag on the tee says 1/4??

    • @802Garage
      @802Garage  Před 4 lety +1

      I believe you are correct. I screw up a lot when I talk about NPT fittings because the sizing is so weird relative to the naming. Thanks for watching and commenting!

  • @alfredomartinez2615
    @alfredomartinez2615 Před 3 lety +1

    Do you recommend or know any video that shows the “best” air tank set up not interested in the cheapest.

    • @802Garage
      @802Garage  Před 3 lety

      LOL I think you could use the search feature.

  • @forreststump11
    @forreststump11 Před 4 lety +2

    does aux tank have a drain valve? I used an old compressor tank and drain it as well as main tank.

    • @802Garage
      @802Garage  Před 4 lety +1

      It does not and it definitely should. Luckily the primary seems to collect most of the moisture. It's a pain, but if I want to empty it, I just tip it upside down, hah.

    • @forreststump11
      @forreststump11 Před 4 lety

      @@802Garage good idea. maybe take it into a radiator shop and have them weld a bung in bottom for a petcock valve. dual tank works great tho for painting with hvlp. Im gonna rig a relief valve in mine this spring just for peace of mind. take care..

    • @802Garage
      @802Garage  Před 4 lety

      @@forreststump11 Yeah I plan to get into much more painting next year. Hopefully I'll be upgrading my compressor, and if I keep using this tank I'll likely add a drain valve and a relief valve. Never bad to be safe, even though I think the odds of needing it are incredibly low. Thanks for the comments!

  • @marquezvanroeschen5340
    @marquezvanroeschen5340 Před 3 lety +1

    Hi, cool clip!
    Would that mean, that I also tune-up my ''actually delivered l/min''?

    • @802Garage
      @802Garage  Před 3 lety +1

      Well it will increase your consistent l/m temporarily, but as soon as the reserved drop below your desired pressure, the rating of your air compressor still doesn't change, and it will actually take longer to recover.

  • @Thomasjcolbert82
    @Thomasjcolbert82 Před 6 lety +2

    I have a question. You recommended putting a T fitting between the tank pressure gauge and the tool pressure gauge? I have mine coming out of the main output (connector on the Tool pressure gauge) to the Aux tank. Problem is I no longer can control tool pressure since now it controls the other tank filling and its hard as hell to turn that tool pressure gauge. I need to add a tool pressure gauge on the aux tank then. I thought about just hard connecting the main tank to the spare tank.

    • @802Garage
      @802Garage  Před 6 lety

      Ideally in a permanent setup, you just have one pressure regulator at the output of the auxiliary tank or anywhere that is connected to both supplies.
      The reason for the T fitting before the regulator on the compressor would be so that you don't have to turn that regulator all the way up any time you want to fill the secondary tank.
      Shouldn't be that hard to install, just a T fitting with the right connections and another female coupler.
      Hope that all makes sense! Sorry for the delayed reply. Thanks for watching and commenting.

    • @Thomasjcolbert82
      @Thomasjcolbert82 Před 6 lety +3

      802 Garage
      It’s not a problem. I did get it all working. The new problem is I discovered that when my Kobalt tank gets too 155PSI, it turns off like it’s supposed too. But then, after a little while it drops to about 135PSI. Maybe overnight.
      It’s none of my fittings, because I took it all off to make sure. It’s like a super slow leak. When it gets to 155 tank PSI, it is supposed to stay there right? Should I return this?

    • @802Garage
      @802Garage  Před 6 lety +1

      It should stay there, yes. You just have a very small leak somewhere. I would guess it is one of the fittings. Use some soapy water and a spray bottle to find the leak!

    • @Thomasjcolbert82
      @Thomasjcolbert82 Před 6 lety +2

      802 Garage
      I did try to do that. I’ll do it again. There are no fittings other than a quick disconnect directly on the power switch right now to rule out my attachments. I can’t put pictures on this or I would.
      I will spray some more soapy water, see what happens. I was going to maybe upgrade my tank to a standup 60-80 gallon. But it’s going to cost$$$.
      I’m not sure how Limited I am with 5.5CFM VS a 15CFM compressor.
      I’m just a home hobbyist.

    • @802Garage
      @802Garage  Před 6 lety

      Could also be the drain valve or emergency release valve on your compressor.
      Yeah I would love to upgrade to a much bigger compressor, just don't have the money for that right now.
      I'm just a home gamer too, but more air would really be nice!

  • @skunkhollow1
    @skunkhollow1 Před 7 lety +1

    SICKK :D
    Thanks so much man, definitely the best video out there on how to add an auxiliary tank to an HF 21 gallon compressor.
    Have you taken a look inside your big air tank to make sure the inside isn't all rusty like the outside? Ya wouldn't want that thing to burst on ya while working in your shop. ;p
    Anyways, great video, it looks simple enough that I can make it happen! :D

    • @802Garage
      @802Garage  Před 7 lety +1

      Thanks! There are some good videos out there, but yeah this one is specific to the HF compressor at least, though it's similar to most. It is definitely a bit rusty on the inside, but I poured some paint into it and swirled it around to help make a coating in there. At worst it will just start slowly leaking. :P
      You can definitely handle it though, all the parts can be bought at Amazon or HF for a few bucks a piece.

    • @skunkhollow1
      @skunkhollow1 Před 7 lety +2

      There definitely are other videos out there, but the filming quality was a good bit lower, and they seemed to not explain it all step by step, but this was just perfect, I am going to recreate your setup almost identically. I really like the idea of being able to just detach the bigger tank whenever you need to bring compressed air somewhere, that is pretty handy. :D

    • @802Garage
      @802Garage  Před 7 lety +2

      Thanks a lot! It is a really easy setup to make. Just one quick note I said 3/8" NPT in the video, but most of my fittings were actually 1/4" NPT. Just to avoid any confusion.

    • @802Garage
      @802Garage  Před 6 lety +1

      Suddenly this video is taking off. Glad I took your advice!

  • @ErikisOfficial
    @ErikisOfficial Před 3 lety

    So in my case I have a 10g 2hp California Air tools compressor. My auxiliary tank is a 33g craftsman. The 10g maxes at 125psi then turns off. The aux 33g says 165psi. Is the regulator supposed to be wide open on the 10 gallon so the aux will fill up? The guage on the 33g filled to to 50psi then the 10g turns off. I shut the ball valves on the auxiliary and let air out of the 10 so it can fill up the auxiliary a little more. I'm trying to understand if this is how you get the maximum benefit of adding a tank. I did notice however the regulator on the 10 went over 90psi and was near 120ish (in the red) along with the aux.
    Or am I just supposed to start with both tanks empty leave the regulator wide open and let it be. And don't continue filling up the aux

  • @alimabrahim1643
    @alimabrahim1643 Před rokem +2

    can i use a 100 pound cylinder propane tank

    • @802Garage
      @802Garage  Před rokem +2

      This is not legal advice. Generally, if it is in good condition and you add a pressure relief valve, no reason it shouldn't work fine.

    • @alimabrahim1643
      @alimabrahim1643 Před rokem

      @@802Garage thank you so much it's brand new never been used I'm confident about it now thanks again

  • @JM-zc7op
    @JM-zc7op Před rokem +1

    Is it required to run a regulator on both the main compressor and the tank? Could i just connect the compressor directly to the tank with no regulator and then have the regulator on the secondary tank

    • @802Garage
      @802Garage  Před rokem

      You do not need a regulator on both. You ideally want a safety valve on each vessel, but have at least one in the system for sure. You could have no regulator on either tank and put it on the end of a line where you actually hook up your tools. Really just depends on how you want to regulate. My setup of leaving the regulator on the compressor was not ideal, just easiest.

    • @mrmotofy
      @mrmotofy Před rokem

      At 125psi no regulator needed for most tools other than maybe painting etc. Most auto shops have 175psi compressors and run em straight open

    • @802Garage
      @802Garage  Před rokem

      @@mrmotofy A lot of tools are rated for 90psi. Just cuz you can doesn't mean you should.

    • @mrmotofy
      @mrmotofy Před rokem

      @@802Garage Sure...and many of those ratings are written by lawyers...like the screwdriver packaging that says must wear eye protection while using this tool. I've NEVER heard of an airtool failing from using 120-140psi...and I've looked and talked to a lot of techs in shops. Very few use any regulators. Air systems are typically tested and certified well over their intended uses. Like air tanks can frequently be tested to 250 or 300psi but that's where they STOP testing. PEX is "rated" for like 170psi...yet in real world testing will handle around 800-1200psi before bursting.
      So especially for a shop with generally long lines one will get better performance by having a higher pressure in tank/lines then regulate lower at the device/connection if desired. Which isn't normally needed.
      A regulator will restrict tool by design...so unless it's actually needed like painting etc there's not much requirement for most tools up to 150ish psi and they certainly won't be hurt by it.
      By the numbers 1/4" air lines should flow at least 25cfm...which is more than nearly all home/shop compressors...so why don't people run 1/4" lines everywhere??? Because in the real world...it just doesn't work well for many applications.
      If ya wanna get technical the manuals also tell you not to use an extension cord...clearly you and most do. Run it on a dedicated circuit, obviously most don't. Always use eye protection when using, most don't. At some point one has to use a bit of reasonable thinking skills and make your own decisions. Many of the manufacturers violate the same notations in their documentation. Corporations operate #1 on Liability and minimizing it.

  • @percivalcheng2148
    @percivalcheng2148 Před 4 lety +1

    i have one silly question
    can i use a 50kgs Propane tank as an auxillary.

    • @802Garage
      @802Garage  Před 4 lety

      Not silly. The quick answer is yes. Propane tanks are rated for several hundred PSI. I would just make sure you aren't putting in more than 150-175 PSI, try to keep the air dry if you can, add a pressure relief valve to the tank, and don't have it in your work area if you can avoid it. Ideally you would want to add a moisture drain valve as well, or the tank will rust out from the inside. Basically, try to be safe about it, and you should technically mod the tank a bit.

    • @802Garage
      @802Garage  Před 4 lety

      Oh also you need to make sure it has absolutely no propane left. I don't really think it would be a huge issue in most cases if there was 1% propane, but again you want to be safe not sorry.

    • @percivalcheng2148
      @percivalcheng2148 Před 4 lety +1

      thank you so much for the info. ill try to spot a remote area and make sure propane is gone. more power to you

    • @802Garage
      @802Garage  Před 4 lety +1

      No problem! Good luck and be safe. :)

  • @johnhenderson3646
    @johnhenderson3646 Před 5 lety +2

    Is the holding tank an old propane tank?

    • @802Garage
      @802Garage  Před 5 lety +2

      I believe it's an old oxygen or acetylene tank, but yeah basically. It's very beefy.

  • @mettexairtools15
    @mettexairtools15 Před 5 lety +1

    Visit Mettex at mettexairtools.co.uk/ for all your air tool and compressor requirements.

    • @802Garage
      @802Garage  Před 4 lety

      If I was in the UK, maybe we could work out a deal! Hah.

  • @acu112
    @acu112 Před 3 lety +1

    Do you have a check valve on the auxiliary tank ?, I have a second tank I would like to do the same. Thank you.

    • @802Garage
      @802Garage  Před 3 lety +1

      No, but ideally you should. In this setup it is impossible for the secondary tank to have more pressure than the primary and since the primary has a check valve it shouldn't really be an issue and it can theoretically back feed if pressure does rise dramatically though that depends on how well the regulator stops reverse flow. The auxiliary tank should also ideally have a drain.

  • @AlvinHanson1708
    @AlvinHanson1708 Před rokem

    Cool 😎

  • @scarpia519
    @scarpia519 Před 5 lety +2

    This isn't totally the correct way of setting up an aux tank. What is stopping air from just passing through the T connection from the main tank to the tools? There might be some air coming out of the aux tank but no guarantee that it is providing air to perform work. You should have a separate aux tank inlet and outlet that drives the tools. This way, the main tank will fill the aux tank who's outlet will drive tools. Not having separate inlet and outlets on the aux tank means air just passes through the T connection from the main (0:44).

    • @802Garage
      @802Garage  Před 5 lety

      I'm slightly confused by your question. I don't think your theories follow with how pressure within an air system works.
      While it is true that the air from the auxiliary tank has to take a 90 degree turn into the regulator outlet, that's really not an issue for pressurized air and would only come into play under very high flow situations.
      Even then, air flows from areas of high pressure to low pressure, and faster moving air is lower pressure, therefore the air stream moving past the aux tank would still draw air from it equalizing pressure.
      Further, the pressure throughout the system will stabilize extremely quickly when you stop actively using a tool, so even a very brief interval of use would equalize pressure across the board.
      In my experience as well, I certainly haven't seen any issues like what you are describing. Basically, while I totally get what you are saying, I think you are overthinking it. I mean no offense when I say that, and I appreciate the comment.

    • @scarpia519
      @scarpia519 Před 5 lety +1

      What I'm trying to say is to get maximum benefit of the aux tank, there should be separate inlet and outlet ports. The T connection allows some bypass of air from the main tank into the tools. How much? I don't know, but I still maintain the most efficient use of the air is done by using separate inlet and outlet connections. This means all air into the tools must come through the aux tank.

    • @802Garage
      @802Garage  Před 5 lety +1

      I do agree that the absolute most efficient method would be a separate outlet. In this application, especially with a regulator blocking maximum flow as is, I think there is effectively no difference. I appreciate the thoughtful discussion though. Would be interesting to test if I had the means.

    • @scarpia519
      @scarpia519 Před 5 lety +1

      The best measurement would be the actual flow. I see three values: (1) into the aux tank from the main tank, (2) through the T (combined from main and aux) to the tools and (3) the aux flow into the T. Pressure differences are likely too close to measure with instruments available to the public. I use the Winters PFQ Series 304 gauges which are spec'd to 1.5% of full scale. In an industrial setting, there's a huge difference in tools.
      Full disclosure: I had two aux tanks set up with a common in/out port with a T connection. One compressor/tank system was for my plasma cutter and the other for air hand tools. One day, it hit me, I realized that with the "T" connection, air was likely bypassing the aux tank as it flowed through the T. I have since redone both aux tanks with separate inlet and outlet connections.

    • @802Garage
      @802Garage  Před 5 lety

      Long delay, but thanks for the explanation and discussion!

  • @brainwashed7244
    @brainwashed7244 Před 5 lety +2

    every ball valve and hose quick connector i guarantee are probably leaking by now! and every hf hose ive ever bought lasted about 6 months!! is it my bad luck? very frustrating

    • @802Garage
      @802Garage  Před 5 lety

      Nope! I advise everyone not to buy HF air couplers anymore. Their solid brass adapters AKA male to female threaded fittings are alright, but any of their quick connects are trash. Their pressure regulators definitely aren't great for flow either. My ball valve is another brand, so that has been fine, hahaha.
      My HF rubber hose has also cracked everywhere and started to leak, so I can't really recommend those either. I have a 20+ year old reputable brand hose that is leak free. My rubber hose from Tractor Supply Co. was cheaper and is better too. I never use the PVC or hybrid hoses because it gets so cold where I am.
      Seriously though the issue with HF connectors is they are desinged incorrectly. They do not cut enough of an air channel into the sealing peg in the female connector, the rubber washers they use are trash, the spring they use is weak, and they only use 3 ball bearings. The male connector actually has the retaining ridge set too far forward so it doesn't even end up pushing in the release valve all the way, giving you lots of leaks and little flow.
      If you want to replace your connectors so they don't leak and not break the bank, I highly recommend any of these three kits.
      EPAuto Push - amzn.to/2G2DHX9
      Milton ColorFit - amzn.to/2MC1puz
      ColorConnex - amzn.to/2sOBkze
      The EPAuto are especially nice being push to connect. It really does make your life easier. Any of those will connect and flow better than HF fittings though. There is a lot of good stuff at HF, but their air couplers are not worth their weight in brass. Thanks!
      I also just found this set which looks pretty decent. Don't know a ton about it though. I'll mostly be upgrading to push to connect fittings in the future for sure. It's worth it. The absolute best connector I have is a Dixon push to connect with like 8 ball bearings. Probably an $8-12 fitting alone though. Was given to me.
      Giraffe Push - amzn.to/2TdgK7b

    • @niklnikl1
      @niklnikl1 Před 5 lety

      My Central Pneumatic air compressor from HF lasted about a year :( Never again.

  • @8Ugri8
    @8Ugri8 Před 4 lety +1

    What about condensate drain valve?

    • @802Garage
      @802Garage  Před 4 lety

      You should definitely have one. In my case I actually just unhook the bit tank sometimes and invert it. There are a few things I wish I had mentioned in this video. Thanks for commenting.

    • @8Ugri8
      @8Ugri8 Před 4 lety +1

      I have same path ahead, thats why i asked😀

    • @802Garage
      @802Garage  Před 4 lety

      You could certainly drill and tap a tank to accept a drain valve, or you could buy a tank that already has one. :)

  • @jasonroch5868
    @jasonroch5868 Před rokem +1

    Do you think I can use a old pool filter as a extra tank? It's big.. just not sure if it could hold the pressure

    • @802Garage
      @802Garage  Před 11 měsíci

      I wouldn't unless you know for sure it is rated for the appropriate PSI.

    • @jasonroch5868
      @jasonroch5868 Před 11 měsíci

      @@802Garage any idea how I can figure that out

    • @802Garage
      @802Garage  Před 11 měsíci

      @@jasonroch5868 Lots of Googling.

    • @802Garage
      @802Garage  Před 11 měsíci

      @@jasonroch5868My guess is no, hahaha.

    • @jasonroch5868
      @jasonroch5868 Před 11 měsíci

      @@802Garage been googling for hours.. can't find anything

  • @amandarobinson8
    @amandarobinson8 Před 4 lety +2

    Does this also increase your CFM?

    • @802Garage
      @802Garage  Před 4 lety +1

      Technically no, the CFM is entirely dependent on your air compressor rating. It increases your reserve capacity which will boost your "effective CFM" temporarily, but it will also decrease recovery time of your air pressure. CFM is all about how quickly your air compressor can compress air at a given PSI rating. Hope this helps.