We Take The New 2024 Jeep Gladiator Mojave Up WIPEOUT HILL at The Easter Jeep Safari!
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I just bought a left-over '23 Mojave in Hydro Blue new for $42K. The incentives right now are awesome, if you aren't financing a bunch of the purchase price.
That’s how u do it.
I missed out of a Tan Mojave for about the same price. There were some amazing deals on the 2023's Glad you got one!
I just bought a '22 Sport Gladiator with 17k miles. Was a lease vehicle. Just under 30k. No big in cab frills but a good project I can build.
Now you can afford the required for Stellantis reliability extended warranty. You will need it.
Have fun with it. Love my JTR.
I disagree with Nathan a little about the Willys being a set of tires away from being nearly a Mojave. People always seem to discount the cast iron front suspension and steering components as well as the reinforced frame. Those are a big deal if you're doing the things the Mojave was made for - bouncing and jumping at high speeds. And that's the key: what are you planning to do with it? The Willys is maybe the best bang for the buck but it won't do Mojave stuff well.
My 23” Rubicon Gladiator has the sandals.
"why does this guy always manage to walk in front of us and nobody else?.....he's jealous"....then when you realize that he's taking your photo, you keep quiet? LOL
Rick Péwé! That man really helped to inspire my love of off-roading. Back when I was a 9th grader (2003-04), we had to sell magazine subscriptions (for what, I do not remember) and to bolster my own sales, I subscribed myself to two magazines that really supercharged my love of all things auto: Petersen's 4Wheel & Off-Road (to which Rick was the Editor in Chief of at the time), and Hot Rod magazine. I would read every issue of both cover to cover. I really loved the builds and when 4WOR would build rigs for the Ultimate Adventure. That magazine is why I know what a locker is, why a NP205 tcase is cool, why a Dana 60 is stronger than a 44, and so much more. Very instrumental in shaping who I am today. I read those magazines for years, and I still have every issue that I received. Thanks guys!
The actual prices will be different not what Roman and Tommy discussed.
Toyota TRD Pro: MSRP $65k (+$5k Markup)= $70k
Ranger Raptor: MSRP $56k (+$10k Markup)= $66k
Gladiator Rubicon: MSRP $65k (-$10k Discount)=$55k
I bought a 2024 Gladiator Rubicon X today, anvil colored. Sticker was $69k, I paid out the door taxes, rocksliders installed and a bed cover for $61k.. The jeep itself was $58k and it's brand new right of the trailer, I pick it up Friday.
It was a nice surprise seeing you guys on the trail! I was in the gobi 392. Tommy, I recognized you as you were talking to us and then turned back and saw dad and Nathan. You guys made my day :)
Very cool!
As someone who haggled the dealer in 2022 for my 2022 Mojave. I paid out the door with Florida tax and tag 62k out the door. Because they knew no one would be ordering them. The rubicons didn’t have as much of an incentive. In reality I paid 58k for a brand new custom ordered one and I LOVE IT.
Yes, my window sticker price before tax was 64k so if you add another 5k in fees that’s almost 70k
Tommy “ okay let’s show the truck “ hmm no, let’s focus on the poor guy who picked the wrong line
Dude driving wanted a challenge... these guys keep their vehicles practically stock and don't do anything serious.
Since 1941 - JEEP IS KING BABY!!!
Big balls to ask the engineer why a base Mojave is $10k more than a fully loaded Ranger Raptor!
I think Jeep does have more but the value is not $10k more. If Jeep tries to provide more it will no longer be a Jeep. Quite the conundrum.
Yeah I'd pick the raptor.
Luckily they got a new ceo, who is hopefully gonna fix the brand. Already cut prices in many models!
The raptor doesn’t have:
1. A front solid axle
2. Removable roof
3. Removable doors
4. An NA motor
@@RN-fx3zl Did you say a gut less engine ? now is that a benefit ?
@@rodgoodreliability.
Great to see Nathan back at Easter Jeep Safari!!!!
I love my Mojave
You Guys are Hillarious......Many Thanks for Another Great Video.
Glad you enjoyed it
My 2022 JTR has the sandals on the cowl.
Jeep is so out of touch with reality on their prices. Easily 20k overpriced. These gladiators will just sit on the lots just like the 23 models are smh..
Lucky you can still find 2023s for 20k off. Lol
Tacomas are also sitting on lots it’s just a bad time for the market in general. Most people just can’t afford new trucks now we’re in a recession.
@@RN-fx3zlExactly! Have you seen the amount of Tundras stacked up! OMG
Yeah I do agree! My friend just bought a 23 for a nice discount.
@@371kennyyeah and even 20k off the prices are questionable. I was looking at 2023 Ecodiesels and even with all the discounts they were still high 50’s just cause I wanted heated seats and LED headlights 🤦♂️
Wow absolutely love Mojave😊
We'll have more of it coming up soon on TFLoffroad!
Jeep should do a factory bobbed version.
Or at the very least a useful 6 foot bed.
Yes! The concept from last year was perfect.
You crazy fools are in possibly the most beautiful place on earth!! Dang ya'll!! Please upgrade to 4K if money allows at some point!
I'm a big fan of my 23 Mojave manual. For those interested, I've made a few videos about it and have more to come. Anyway, I had a blast watching this one as always! Great job TFL guys!
The MAJORITY of Jeep owners do not want anything electric!!!!
I am not a fan of them, but they sell a crap-load of 4xe Wranglers. Still not convinced a 4xe Gladiator is a good idea (IF they can get the 2.0L to even work in a truck)
Amen.
More power 470lb-ft torque, the ability to commute on electric only, silent off-roading for a limited time, reduced strain on the 2.0L. Yea sounds awful compared to the minivan 3.6
@@smallestnutzful All I'll say is that there is a Reason Jeep has not produced a 2.0L 4xe Gladiator. My money says they won't either. It will be something else.
You polled every jeep owner? Impressive.
my local dealer has a yellow 23 Mojave. its been there for over 1 year sitiing in the same spot . 20k off and they still can't sell them.
I see 2023 Gladiator Mojave and Rubicon's in my area selling for around $45k down from 65-70k. That seems like a better deal than a Ranger Raptor or TRD Pro at 65-70K but not sure.
Agree. I got 26% off MSRP. 58K MSRP down to 42K. MacHaik Houston on I-10 had a bunch of left-over '23 year model Rubicons and Mojaves in February. I understand the '24 was updated with power seats, rear side curtain air bags, larger Uconnect screen and new grill. Mechanically has same powertrain, suspension, HD axles, etc. So the discount made me grab a '23.
It’s a deal for that price.
We will never see a Ranger Raptor selling at msrp, not at least for the next 4 years
@Unky… Good deal. Congratulations.
@kadim… Ranger Raptors will sell for MSRP at the same time when F150 or Bronco Raptors will start selling for MSRP. Pretty much never unless there will be a crazy recession or cataclysmic world event and then most of us will be busy trying to stay alive vs worrying about Raptor prices.
Best Jeep Safari video ever Thanks for all the info.
Our pleasure!
This was alot of fun! I was working out in the garage and ended up watching alot of it. You guys have such amazing chemistry and a love for off-roading, having fun, and just a passion for everything about automobiles. It makes for really enjoyable content.
Well done, as usual. Thank you!
You can actually buy a Jeep, choose your favorite trim and color right on the lot, and you won't pay full MSRP if you know how to negotiate (i.e. a minimum of $6K reduction on top trims).
Ford has always limited the supply of Raptors, so IF you find a Ranger Raptor, you'll take whatever color Ford allocated to the dealer, and you'll pay full MSRP at minimum. Most dealers will add Additional Dealer Markup, so a black Ranger Raptor will cost the same as a your favorite Rubicon X and Mojave X.
I must say why Jeep chose to go for 'best in class' rear legroom at the expense of front legroom in the Gladiator is a head scratcher.
Thanks for showing the Gladiator some love TFL. Sad the 2024 update was so minimal & now only one engine option, still can't even get factory 35's. So Lame 🙄
PS: No Wrangler-based prototype w/a 3.0L TT at Moab, does not bode well, guess it really won't fit.
There are full size Ford F150s driving around England and Germany. It's not that big a deal.
Toyota bros talk up IFS until they drive a solid axle landcruiser😂 and realize why people pay big bucks for a real Toyota
Yep, they just talk about DW and other coping methods until somebody with an 80 shows up, lol. I have a 4Runner and completely understand that IFS is trash for technical off-roading.
@@trailrunnah8886IFS is amazing at speed, not so great for rock-crawling...
Nathan you are right winches are added weight.
Just missed you guys. Was part of an EJS group coming down as some part of your group was heading up the “I Lean.” Nina was over on that side at the time and was able to say a quick hello. Been seeing those Mojaves getting cleaned up every evening here at the hotel where I’m staying (and I suppose Jeep corporate as well). Looked like your group was having fun. I know our group was having fun for sure!
Does the 24 Mojave still have steel front knuckles compared to aluminum in the Rubi and others? Also, besides the orange stitching, aren't the seats more bolstered? Is the hood still steel and heavier in the Mojave? Besides the Fox suspension, those are the other reasons I was aware of for getting a Mojave over the Rubi.
Yes to all the above. Only changes are same to all 24s new grill power seats and new dash.
I love my Sport S. But dat rear locker doh!
Nice video! Sort of like an inside line on what Moab---and Jeep---are all about. I miss living less than two hours from Moab. The offset is I live a short 30 minute flight and about 8 or 10 miles from Pearl Harbor. I live in Paradise! Andy McKane, 1924, Tuesday, 26 March 2024, Molokai, Hawaii.
There are a couple of ways to get to Wipeout Hill. What trail are you guys on after leaving Wipeout Hill what route did you take? Was it seven mile rim?
Hey Tommy, how do users upload pictures on OnX? I have yet to be able to do that.
Thanks for some graet coverage. I saw where Jeep Bill Peffer mentioned a new premium soft top for the 2024 Gladiuator. Did you guys get to see it in person, if so what are your thoughts? Woiuld love to see a video showing this new top. Thanks.
Hey Tommy and Roman, my 2020 JTR has the flip flops on it. Just FYI
38:44 Even the senior brand manager for the Gladiator forgets the Gladiator is a Jeep
Damn Roman was like yea nobody cares about your thoughts to Nathan. 38:18
I don't know if its the gopro distorting the picture but @30:00 HOLY COW that dude has a big head! LOL!!
What no one talks about are the advantages of the longer wheel base. I was used to wheeling an 87 k5 blazer and an 02 longarm WJ... I drove my 23 ecodiesel gladiator out to EJS last year for its first offroading trip. I was super surprised by just planted it felt on off camber obstacles and how by the time the rear tires are climbing the fronts are up and pulling on flat ground making the climbs feel less effortless...
I will take the Rubicon with the front Dana 44 and locker. Easy to install fox shocks and some air bumps. That Dana 30 is a ticking time bomb if actually used.
My 21 Gladiator has the sandals on the cowl vent
I just can't bring myself to like the new grille. Happy with my 2023
They sell the Gladiator here in Europe with a V6 Diesel engine. Sadly though the MY24 is the last year and you can only get the final edition. I drive a Ranger Raptor diesel and over here it is gigantic but still fun though.
So impressive how Jeep will bring factory vehicles here to show off. Every other manufacture is like “come check out this BS dirt course we made.” Jeep is like “let’s run actual trails and we will show you what’s up.” You’re paying for actual capability with JTs and JLs.
Interested seeing the mojave with the steel bumper option. Good see some mojaves out on the trails because they get alot of hate but I believe it's just gladiators in general
Is there any way to find out if we can get a willys embossed hood that jeep is featuring
I live in Oxfordshire and a neighbour has a Ranger Raptor, so a Gladiator is not out of the question. I do see F150s and Dodge Rams around. They're not common, but I see them reasonably regularly. The Gladiator is ULEZ compliant for London too Nathan. You would have to pay the congestion charge, but not the additional ULEZ charge. So it would cost you about 20 bucks to go into the city.
I like the looks of the Gladiator, but couldn't justify it, especially as you're not going to take off the roof and doors in the UK.
The Gladiator guys wll be able to enjoy the open top when the dust from the Raptor settles. Just settle for 2nd place. Great support vehicle, maybe?
My Gobi JT Rubicon "SandStorm" has sandals on the cowl
I went to Madrid and only saw 2 trucks, one ranger raptor and a gladiator and they looked huge compared to the other small electric cars. Tesla model Y looks huge as well. Very funny.
I’m waiting with Baited breath for you to Highlight the new Ginger color concept Gladiator Jeep Pelouze
Ford Ranger Raptor has a Baja running suspension and both rear and front lockers, plus a powerful engine for way less than a Gladiator Mojave. A fully loaded Ranger Raptor is $14k less than a fully loaded Gladiator Mojave. I like convertibles and the ability to take the doors off, but that is a huge price gap to get a vehicle that is less equipped with known quality issues.
My Mojave leaked oil straight from the factory and Jeeps paint issues are well known as well.
Great video TFL! Thanks for making me laugh! I was very surprised to hear that power seats were not a standard option in the 2024. I thought they were just like all the safety stuff that is on the new Jeeps. I love my 2021 Gladiator. I custom order it with cloth seats and without all of the safety stuff including front and rear parking sensors to save money. These prices they ask for these new Jeeps are just sad and crazy.
Did you guys sell the MB GL?
Mpjave is more Jeep than 90% of potential customers will ever need. When you engage the center lock and rear lock, you still have brake locking differentials in front. It rides better than any jeep out there due to the suspension for every day driving. I put mine on 37" with terraflex suspension and added apex sway bar disconnect. It will go anywhere except body damaging trails.
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Great video
I would love a gladiator, but I’m 6’5” and my kids are going to be tall. So I’m curious if I could put a rear facing car seat in the back, or sit behind myself with the front seat all the way back. Otherwise I’ll have to stick with my full size crew cab.
If you test drive, you'll notice the windshield frame is much lower than usual vehicles. At 6'2", 240lbs the Mojave works alright for me. You may find yourself stopping a bit before you usually would at intersections, so you can see the light change. Our 4yr & 2yr old are both in front facing car seats. One siting behind me with drivers seat all the way back. I've owned a '15 Ram 2500 crewcab since new. When we hop back into the Ram it feels cavernous. But this is more of a weekend trip/errand vehicle for us. Edit: Rear facing car seats are probably not possible unless you have only one rear seat passenger.
It’s a small truck you will be cramped. I bought a ram because I needed the space.
Electric seats is needed? Since when? I prefer manual, much faster adjusting and dont fail
Loaded AT4X canyon is 60k and a lot of amenities plus front and rear lockers. Colorado ZR2 cost even less. Ranger raptor if ever built will be a bargain for the price. Sorry but no jeep wrangler or Gladiator is worth 70 plus k
The issue with crawling Mojave’s and sometimes feeling like they need more power is not the engine, but their low range gearing. They have about a 53 to 1 crawl ratio vs about a 77 to 1 for a Rubicon. This means more throttle use and less throttle control in low speed crawling. It also means, however, that they can go faster in low range vs a Rubicon. Each can of course crossover and do what the other one was really more designed to do, but yeah, they are designed to do different things. Buy the one that fits the offroading you most intend to do. Besides, much of the differences can also be added aftermarket- for example a front locker on a Mojave, nicer suspension and cast iron knuckles on a Rubicon etc. (I guess with the exception being the stronger frame on the Mojave). If I were going to lift it and replace suspension though, I don’t think I’d spend for a Mojave, as that is really the biggest part of what you are paying for, so why spend for it and then immediately take it off. Anyway, great vid. Makes me wish I wasn’t going into work at the office. Ugh.
New DJI mics I think do 3 now, I believe.
The Hurricane would add needed power but the length would need increasing up front! Its already stretched...
Best cost benefit gladiator is a simple sport S ecodiesel. Hands down. The effortless torque is amazing for off roading.
Why come they don't have a 392 in the gladiator?
Gonna go straight to the hurricane eventually
Becuase it doesn’t need it and doing so will cost the Gladiator line more to offer another powertrain.
@@371kenny Do you think the hurricane will be better than the current one?
@@calivalley9056 Should be the same as the Wrangler Rubicon 392! Applying that logic why even have 392 in the jeep in the first place?
@JPEBeard more power yes. As reliable .. hell no.
Last year, I wanted to buy a JT. But the strike was looming, and I had a trip planned that would involve towing some kind of Jeep behind our pickup and camper. Ordering, would have given me the equipment I wanted, for a more reasonable price. But I ended up buying a JLU Sport S Altitude for $49k. No point paying for options that I will remove later.
If they would offer the Gladiator with a front locker and a disconnecting sway bar, it would sell like hot cakes. It's pretty much a Rubicon with the upgraded suspension...
I think the Mojave is the best one..🤔🛻
I know they are both midsize trucks but i feel like a Gladiator and Raptor are going to appeal to different groups. I think of Raptor and i think going fast in the desert and sand dunes. I think Jeep i think of it as a modern classic due to it's long history and going slow off road without doors or the top on.
The mark up on the ranger raptors gunna be more than any gladiator 😢
on crazy europe stuff.... in the netherlands there is a tax based on environmental footprint, a 70k EUR genadier will skyrocket to 180k EUR for a natural person buying it. Believe the grenadier isn't even sold with rear seats (only front seats it might be possible to have it as 'commercial'), but also a (non 4xe) wrangler will skyrocket to about 160k EUR. (~176k $)
Is it just me or these guys going at Gurley speeds? At These speeds we're never gonna break anything. Come on, let's go.
I really wish Jeep would make a bullet proof engine that had 300 to 350 hp and 400 IBS of TQ for Jeeps and make it EMP proof too!
Im sure the Tacoma would have failed within the first 50 feet.
Meanwhile, here in Canada, Dealers are marking up 2024 Gladiators in the $70K CAD range, to the point where they're only a difference of 1000-2000 dollars between Sport, Willys, Mojave and Rubicon (none of which are specced with the new power seats). So currently, its better to get a 2023, as they're sitting on lots with discounts, starting at about $50K CAD for a Sport S with maybe 1 option.
the inline 6 cyl hurricane with twin turbos
The downside to the wrangler and gladiator is the factory axle locker in the Mojave and Rubicons. The sensor fails frequently and the only way to replace it is a full axle replacement. Until Jeep makes the sensor available, don't let your warranty run out.
My 2023 gladiator Mojave has the Sandals on the passenger side.
Why is this better than a Ranger Raptor? It's not.... LOL. Unfortunately the Ranger Raptor production is going to be so limited as they might as well be unicorn horns.
Even before delivery, I've seen dealers list them for 75k-80k. HELL NO
Getting mine at MSRP. They are out there. @@jdev232
As someone who grew up next to the original factory, it is Willie’s
I’m pretty sure the guy knows how to pronounce his own company and last name. “Willis.”
Problem with the Willys Gladiator is no 4:10 gears ava.
Hilarious conversation with the jeep rep. You can take the top off.. holy hell, I’m sold!. I can get a ranger raptor for 10 grand less. I can get a ZR2 15 grand less. I can get a 2025 trail hunter forerunner, or Tacoma for less,can get a Land Cruiser for less. But hell, I can take the top off.. shall we talk Broncos? Same story.
The gladiator does have the sandals on the cowl.
I bought a 24 nissan frontier sv long bed for way less than this. I'll use my 03 tj, for this stuff...matter of fact..been there done that.
a 2 door gladiator with a 6 foot bed would be nice
I have a 21 mojave with footprints
Ask anybody that had a land rover how the typical air suspension works after awhile years down the road.
You are right the Trac Loc in the Willis will go just about anywhere.
It started out being pronounced "WILLIS" but nobody ever got it right so they gave up and started calling it "WILLIES".
My 21 Gladiator has the sandals too! 🩴
Guarantee my f150 could make it up that
I’m excited for a gladiator 4xE. I love the Gladiator. I did like it in a Jeep Wrangler 4xE. Wish it had a bigger battery. It would be really cool if they had a higher powered inverter (7200 watt) like the power boost.
Still agree it’s overpriced for a midsize truck. I’d rather buy a half ton truck for the money of the Gladiator.
Honestly if you care about value you should just buy an earlier year version with low mileage for 20-30k off of what you’d pay for a brand new one…
You’re pretty much paying $20,000 for a slightly “better” touch screen.
ESPECIALLY if you plan on off-roading.
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I just want a 2 door swb gladiator