Wow in 9.15 minutes I don't think I've learned so much about ancient history. So concise, so plain speaking and related to the relics we all still recognise today.
LOVE that he pointed out that (and how) the earliest Egyptian pyramids were copied from the Sumerians. The earliest Egyptian pyramids were named Saqqara, essentially adapted from the Sumerian word Ziggurat.
Wow...im a History teacher in Texas and I found his lectures and ideas very interesting....was disappointed when it ended so I subscribed....thank you Sir...!!!
I reviewed Dr. Neiman’s website, may he rest in peace, and I was impressed by his credentials. However I still respectfully disagree with his conclusions and believe that there are profound implications regarding these issues that need further exploration. I wish that I could have accessed his thoughts and I like to correspond with scholars and if he were still with us I would email him. Thank you for your respectful response.
@@jerksrreal 3:15 you are right, but if you think they came from africa, then they most likely were caucasian; he and others(i'm not faulting him) may have been guessing based on looks of Some of the art i assume. what he and others are missing are the caucasus mountain region; caucasians in that region migrated to - levant, near east, along all shores of mediterranian sea; and this includes africa. migrations and more show caucasians during that period; the people Today do not have same pheno as that period.
@@guyanaspice6730 Please read Herodotus ...he clearly described the people of the Caucasus being dark skinned and wholly haired...plus we are talking like 12,000 years ago and slc24a5 hadn’t hit that area yet so I’m almost sure that those people were NOT white.
As an Sumerologist I have profound disagreements with his lecture and have even written on the ziggurats and the pyramids, they are wholly unrelated for many reasons which I cannot touch on here. However, I will say that there are other items in this lecture which I find to be incorrect. I do not know the background of Dr. Neiman but I do wonder where he taught and for how long. I believe that this incorrect information needs to be corrected at some point.
My reservations: 1. He claims that the Sumerians built the ziggurats because they couldn´t live without a mountain. That is very misleading, the ziggurats had a history of developement of their own. They started as single story buildings on a raised platform. (see the famous ANU temple in Uruk) The tradition of using old buildings as the new fundament helped the following buildings to grow taller over time. Oh and, since they built their towns along rivers they had to deal with recurring floodwater so building the important buildings on platforms totally makes sense. He also states that ontop of the ziggurats there were "the temple, a community hall, a public place, the court of the town and so on..." Since when? All those buildings apart from a temple were grouped around the ziggurat, not ontop. Next: The way he draws a ziggurat is totally weird and reminds more of the painting by van Valckenborch or biblical illustrations than what the archaeological record shows. Next, E-GAL "The Great House" was used for the administrative centre of the town, which later turned into the seat of the ruler. Next: He claims they used the sign KUR to designate their territory. But KALAM was the word they used for their land, KUR was used for mountain, the underworld, the east, foreign land, land in general (LUGAL KUR-KUR-RA = Ruler of all the Lands), . Next: He claims the step pyramid of Djoser was influenced by Sumer because bricks. Ignoring the fact that pyramids developed out of Mastabas, that were built with mud bricks. All in all what he talks about are outdated theories that heavily lean towards the bible, which is not surprising since he was a biblical scholar.
Why didn't Egyptians think right away to build with bigger stones, if the purpose of using those bigger harder stones is to build faster? And why did Sumerians never built with bigger stones, or did they prefer to work slower or couldn't make bigger mud bricks?
Thank you :) Just a little twist. The earlies pyramids and/or megolithic structures best preserved i.m.o. are the oldest. interesting that the Giza pyramids have 8 sides. So in some/most cases It's the other way round. But you gave me some tools....much appreciated.
Maybe they made the stone into bricks at the place where they found the stones, so they could make a human line from the stones to the piramid, and pass the bricks hand to hand, bricks will come in handy then, easier weight. So they dealt with a kind faraoh? or didnt they had the transport tools or knowledge to get this stone to the pyramid, in that period.. or maybe they were in a business setting to show the rest of the world they had these bricks, and enough more bricks to sell if wanted, sort of sending the workers out with the bricks, and make a fortune.. it could be anything I guess lol
Dr David, You said the valley was flat, like Kansas. The people couldn't live with that, so they built mountains. How did these people know about mountains? Do you have a lecture on that, how these people knew about mountains?
They came from Arrata, or Aarrat. Saqqara pyramid is exactly like the Sumerians, because the first people led by Mizraim or Misr journeyed south when the languages were changed by the Almighty God as recorded in the Word.
7:10. Dr Neiman forgot an important point about alphabets when he finds Seqoyah's writing a little funny. Although the English alphabet appears to have only 26 symbols, one has to learn the different combinations of these symbols that produce the sounds of English words. For example, the 'sh' in 'English', the 'ch' in chip. That is just the same as learning a new symbol for that combination in Seqoyah's system. Seqoyah's system wasn't weird. It was more consistent than English spelling, in fact
Incorrect at 3:15. The Sumerians never stated they were from Turkey but they did establish their Kingdom there before Egypt, they were in fact Kushites of Ham. Both groups describe themselves as "black" headed people. The Akkadians were of the Semetic black race of "negroes", but both groups interacted. Abraham was a Akkadian. Shalom.
+7phoenician7 +7phoenician7 The only thing superior in this conversation is your ignorance ... Ill break it down for you. The Sumerian word for Hair = MALU, the Sumerian word for Head = SAM. I guess your primitive to know that they knew difference ...Therefore ... your attempt at propping European Supremacy has failed... Was it not Black Africans (Moors) that brought Europe out of the Dark Ages ... At a time when Europe had 2 universities, the Moors had 17. You know nothing about the ancient "African" colonizers the Asiatic black mans DNA doesn't lie.
***** The only thing "racist" is the continuous misinformation that Europeans have spread for generations, it has nothing to do with hate its all about facts. The true "racist" are those who cover up history and claim it to be theirs. Their favorite has been stating claim to the great and ancient "African" history. Anyone can pick up old history book or even dictionary and see how the true "racist" European historians portrayed others. I also have my Bachelors degree , you cannot demean my intelligence.
***** Race is proven through language culture and DNA. :Linguistic Facts: "Hausa relationships with Ancient Egyptians is obvious since the first studies in the beginning of the 20th century: Werner Vicychl, 1938 made this relationship certain by making 200 to 300 comparisons with Ancient Egyptian." The Hausa are BLACK and live in Nigeria/Cameroon. Also Anyone can take a look at the 25 dynasty of Egypt whom say they reclaimed the land of their ancestors. They are were Black. Can you prove that any of your European languages have 200/300 comparisons.
***** We can agree that the Egyptians and the Sumerians looked the same. Black! Facts:People of Sumer would be best described as Mesopatamians. They called themselves sag-giga (black headed people). According to Berrosus a Babylonian historian from 300 BC, they were black faced foreigners. You are debunked!
7phoenician7 Lets try your logic again and watch it fail! The SUMERIAN word for HAIR = MALU. THE SUMERIAN work for HEAD = SAG. Hair exist all over your body. They called themselves SAG-GIG-GA which mean BLACK HEADED PEOPLE.. Now if your going to sit here LIE as I look in the mirror I have a FACE, EARS, and HAIR ALL on My Head. Your lack of intelligence is embarrassing at this point.
talking about history never ends, but he is true "Egyptian civilization is influenced by the advances made in Sumer. The building of the temple towers, called Ziggurat lead to the development of the Egyptian pyramid." the oldest Ziggurat found in Kashan Tape Sialk in Iran 5000 years old just Google it
So glad his lectures are still available.
Wow in 9.15 minutes I don't think I've learned so much about ancient history. So concise, so plain speaking and related to the relics we all still recognise today.
LOVE that he pointed out that (and how) the earliest Egyptian pyramids were copied from the Sumerians. The earliest Egyptian pyramids were named Saqqara, essentially adapted from the Sumerian word Ziggurat.
i hope he is recognized world wide
Wow...im a History teacher in Texas and I found his lectures and ideas very interesting....was disappointed when it ended so I subscribed....thank you Sir...!!!
Thank you, sir. I learned lots!!!
02:29 we even saved the name egal to this day attributing it to the bird whose head is shown on divine figures in Sumerian pantheon.
I reviewed Dr. Neiman’s website, may he rest in peace, and I was impressed by his credentials. However I still respectfully disagree with his conclusions and believe that there are profound implications regarding these issues that need further exploration. I wish that I could have accessed his thoughts and I like to correspond with scholars and if he were still with us I would email him. Thank you for your respectful response.
ancient Elamite complex in the Khuzestan province Chogha in Bakhtiari Language means "hill"Choga Zanbil means 'basket mound.
I am interested in knowing more about how the Sumerians came from Mongolia. Can you direct me to some more literature on that?
It doesn’t exist...he made that up
@@jerksrreal 3:15 you are right, but if you think they came from africa, then they most likely were caucasian; he and others(i'm not faulting him) may have been guessing based on looks of Some of the art i assume. what he and others are missing are the caucasus mountain region; caucasians in that region migrated to - levant, near east, along all shores of mediterranian sea; and this includes africa. migrations and more show caucasians during that period; the people Today do not have same pheno as that period.
@@guyanaspice6730 Please read Herodotus ...he clearly described the people of the Caucasus being dark skinned and wholly haired...plus we are talking like 12,000 years ago and slc24a5 hadn’t hit that area yet so I’m almost sure that those people were NOT white.
Previously known as the Ubade(?) culture. Fans of Hindu mythology say they cam from India.
the thing everyone seems to overlook is that in egypt, you can actually see and follow the progression. nobody starts off building giant structures
what he said
As an Sumerologist I have profound disagreements with his lecture and have even written on the ziggurats and the pyramids, they are wholly unrelated for many reasons which I cannot touch on here. However, I will say that there are other items in this lecture which I find to be incorrect. I do not know the background of Dr. Neiman but I do wonder where he taught and for how long. I believe that this incorrect information needs to be corrected at some point.
Thank you for this. Great Lecture!!!
My reservations: 1. He claims that the Sumerians built the ziggurats
because they couldn´t live without a mountain.
That is very misleading, the ziggurats had a history of developement
of their own. They started as single story buildings on a raised platform. (see the famous ANU temple in Uruk) The tradition of using old buildings as the new fundament helped the following buildings to grow taller over time. Oh and, since they built their towns along rivers they had to deal with recurring floodwater so building the important buildings on platforms totally makes sense.
He also states that ontop of the ziggurats there were
"the temple, a community hall, a public place, the court of the town and so on..."
Since when? All those buildings apart from a temple were grouped around the ziggurat, not ontop.
Next: The way he draws a ziggurat is totally weird and
reminds more of the painting by van Valckenborch or biblical illustrations than what the archaeological record shows.
Next, E-GAL "The Great House" was used for the administrative centre of the town, which later turned into the seat of the ruler.
Next: He claims they used the sign KUR to designate their territory.
But KALAM was the word they used for their land, KUR was used for mountain, the underworld, the east, foreign land, land in general (LUGAL KUR-KUR-RA = Ruler of all the Lands), .
Next: He claims the step pyramid of Djoser was influenced by Sumer because bricks. Ignoring the fact that pyramids developed out of Mastabas, that were built with mud bricks.
All in all what he talks about are outdated theories that heavily lean towards the bible, which is not surprising since he was a biblical scholar.
Why didn't Egyptians think right away to build with bigger stones, if the purpose of using those bigger harder stones is to build faster?
And why did Sumerians never built with bigger stones, or did they prefer to work slower or couldn't make bigger mud bricks?
Thank you, sir! Very interesting.
Thank you, Sir.
Beautiful lecture. :)
Much...much...much more informative than that "cr@p" History Channel shows on programs like "Ancient Aliens".
Thank you :)
Just a little twist. The earlies pyramids and/or megolithic structures best preserved i.m.o. are the oldest. interesting that the Giza pyramids have 8 sides. So in some/most cases It's the other way round.
But you gave me some tools....much appreciated.
interesting thank you!!!
Maybe they made the stone into bricks at the place where they found the stones, so they could make a human line from the stones to the piramid, and pass the bricks hand to hand, bricks will come in handy then, easier weight. So they dealt with a kind faraoh? or didnt they had the transport tools or knowledge to get this stone to the pyramid, in that period.. or maybe they were in a business setting to show the rest of the world they had these bricks, and enough more bricks to sell if wanted, sort of sending the workers out with the bricks, and make a fortune.. it could be anything I guess lol
Dr David, You said the valley was flat, like Kansas. The people couldn't live with that, so they built mountains. How did these people know about mountains? Do you have a lecture on that, how these people knew about mountains?
he did say how they knew... did you even listen?
They came from Arrata, or Aarrat. Saqqara pyramid is exactly like the Sumerians, because the first people led by Mizraim or Misr journeyed south when the languages were changed by the Almighty God as recorded in the Word.
7:10. Dr Neiman forgot an important point about alphabets when he finds Seqoyah's writing a little funny. Although the English alphabet appears to have only 26 symbols, one has to learn the different combinations of these symbols that produce the sounds of English words. For example, the 'sh' in 'English', the 'ch' in chip. That is just the same as learning a new symbol for that combination in Seqoyah's system. Seqoyah's system wasn't weird. It was more consistent than English spelling, in fact
Incorrect at 3:15. The Sumerians never stated they were from Turkey but they did establish their Kingdom there before Egypt, they were in fact Kushites of Ham. Both groups describe themselves as "black" headed people. The Akkadians were of the Semetic black race of "negroes", but both groups interacted. Abraham was a Akkadian. Shalom.
+7phoenician7 +7phoenician7 The only thing superior in this conversation is your ignorance ... Ill break it down for you. The Sumerian word for Hair = MALU, the Sumerian word for Head = SAM. I guess your primitive to know that they knew difference ...Therefore ... your attempt at propping European Supremacy has failed... Was it not Black Africans (Moors) that brought Europe out of the Dark Ages ... At a time when Europe had 2 universities, the Moors had 17. You know nothing about the ancient "African" colonizers the Asiatic black mans DNA doesn't lie.
***** The only thing "racist" is the continuous misinformation that Europeans have spread for generations, it has nothing to do with hate its all about facts. The true "racist" are those who cover up history and claim it to be theirs. Their favorite has been stating claim to the great and ancient "African" history. Anyone can pick up old history book or even dictionary and see how the true "racist" European historians portrayed others. I also have my Bachelors degree , you cannot demean my intelligence.
***** Race is proven through language culture and DNA. :Linguistic Facts: "Hausa relationships with Ancient Egyptians is obvious since the first studies in the beginning of the 20th century: Werner Vicychl, 1938 made this relationship certain by making 200 to 300 comparisons with Ancient Egyptian." The Hausa are BLACK and live in Nigeria/Cameroon. Also Anyone can take a look at the 25 dynasty of Egypt whom say they reclaimed the land of their ancestors. They are were Black. Can you prove that any of your European languages have 200/300 comparisons.
***** We can agree that the Egyptians and the Sumerians looked the same. Black! Facts:People of Sumer would be best described as Mesopatamians. They called themselves sag-giga (black headed people). According to Berrosus a Babylonian historian from 300 BC, they were black faced foreigners. You are debunked!
7phoenician7 Lets try your logic again and watch it fail! The SUMERIAN word for HAIR = MALU. THE SUMERIAN work for HEAD = SAG. Hair exist all over your body. They called themselves SAG-GIG-GA which mean BLACK HEADED PEOPLE.. Now if your going to sit here LIE as I look in the mirror I have a FACE, EARS, and HAIR ALL on My Head. Your lack of intelligence is embarrassing at this point.
assyrian were the first one ziggurt was ur but we control them i am assyrian and i am proud
Ziggurats were first created by proto-elamites. Tepe Sialk is dated to 3000 bc, in iran.
Wrong thr Ziggurats were built by the Sumerians only
wiieee free education = D
talking about history never ends, but he is true "Egyptian civilization is influenced by the advances made in Sumer. The building of the temple towers, called Ziggurat lead to the development of the Egyptian pyramid." the oldest Ziggurat found in Kashan Tape Sialk in Iran 5000 years old just Google it
@Delaram Salmassi he is just saying bullshit don't worry
Well, they came from where the ark of Noah came to rest...
Not Mongolia...
What?! Sumerians came from monogolia?! Now that is wrong
I can't make beer :(
@Kimmyloca0 yeah i was like WHAT THE FUCK... i like how hes talking about my cherokee people.. sequoia
this jew doctor keep ignoring the assyrian and every one no why
serious sam brought me here
@hollandy2007 Dear Sir or Ma'am, how rude you are!
so egypt copy assyrian
Something is off about this guy, almost arrogant and twisting of histories.
and i belong to Chaldean ashur banibal
oh yeah and assyrian killed alexander the great he died in babylon :P